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Weasel Keeper User ID: 27476327 United States 03/25/2013 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a lot in this latest letter released 3/24/13, going from why wars are caused to why the Pope left office so quickly. The last part of the letter is where Mehran makes the statement. Quoting: Oengus It has been raised in private and in public and on the forum of the Foundation if I am the prophet or a promised one and if my peace treaty document about the status of scientists makes me a prophet. Quoting: Mehran KesheMy answer to these questions, which have been raised among my family and by close friends for years and now public, is very simple. The answer clearly and irrevocably is: Yes. I am a messenger and a messenger of science and through its power a messenger of peace. In the passage of time the prophets of the past appeared at a time when the human race needed to attain a new understanding of what was to come. Their Holinesses Mohammed, Christ, Moses and the rest all appointed the time of the return of the promised one as the time of peace and milk and honey. In fact the time of the prophets of Earth had come to its end long before the time when I declared my position, as the prophets they promised have been prophets for the race of man and his time on Earth which was fulfilled long before this time in the last century. My job and mission is guiding and teaching man so that he can finally join the rest of the creations of the Creator in the universe. Our jobs as prophet of the man and messengers of universe are clearly separate and have different criteria and objectives. The prophets of man never spoke of the reunion of man with the universal community as this was not their appointed duty. Even though they were aware of the existence of both dimensions, man at their time was not ready for such a transformation and knowledge. Now that man is ready, it is our clear job and duty as the universal messengers with full knowledge of the working of the universe and its society to guide man through this narrow channel, full of opportunities for things to go wrong, and they are: one being in opening of the universe to man and the other in guiding the man with the interaction of man with the universal community. It is our job as universal messengers to prepare man for the unification in an orderly and correct manner even though not all men will understand this initial stage. For this reason we have started to correct the mistakes of science in the books released initially, and now we are ready to take you through to the universal community. But the universe is a peaceful place and there is no room for aggression and war. [link to forum.keshefoundation.org] There is a lot more to the letter as I stated in the beginning of the post. Please read it all and shear you thoughts. If needed I can post the whole letter. :wllyfap: Wild Weasels? You've got to be shitting me! |
Oengus (OP) User ID: 12527214 United States 03/25/2013 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a lot in this latest letter released 3/24/13, going from why wars are caused to why the Pope left office so quickly. The last part of the letter is where Mehran makes the statement. Quoting: Oengus It has been raised in private and in public and on the forum of the Foundation if I am the prophet or a promised one and if my peace treaty document about the status of scientists makes me a prophet. Quoting: Mehran KesheMy answer to these questions, which have been raised among my family and by close friends for years and now public, is very simple. The answer clearly and irrevocably is: Yes. I am a messenger and a messenger of science and through its power a messenger of peace. In the passage of time the prophets of the past appeared at a time when the human race needed to attain a new understanding of what was to come. Their Holinesses Mohammed, Christ, Moses and the rest all appointed the time of the return of the promised one as the time of peace and milk and honey. In fact the time of the prophets of Earth had come to its end long before the time when I declared my position, as the prophets they promised have been prophets for the race of man and his time on Earth which was fulfilled long before this time in the last century. My job and mission is guiding and teaching man so that he can finally join the rest of the creations of the Creator in the universe. Our jobs as prophet of the man and messengers of universe are clearly separate and have different criteria and objectives. The prophets of man never spoke of the reunion of man with the universal community as this was not their appointed duty. Even though they were aware of the existence of both dimensions, man at their time was not ready for such a transformation and knowledge. Now that man is ready, it is our clear job and duty as the universal messengers with full knowledge of the working of the universe and its society to guide man through this narrow channel, full of opportunities for things to go wrong, and they are: one being in opening of the universe to man and the other in guiding the man with the interaction of man with the universal community. It is our job as universal messengers to prepare man for the unification in an orderly and correct manner even though not all men will understand this initial stage. For this reason we have started to correct the mistakes of science in the books released initially, and now we are ready to take you through to the universal community. But the universe is a peaceful place and there is no room for aggression and war. [link to forum.keshefoundation.org] There is a lot more to the letter as I stated in the beginning of the post. Please read it all and shear you thoughts. If needed I can post the whole letter. :wllyfap: "we all need a helping hand, at the same time giving two to help" - me |
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Oengus (OP) User ID: 12527214 United States 03/25/2013 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Better read some hard facts about about Keshe (a lot of previously unknown information like his nonsense "diamond" story and his mysterious raman spectroscopy document): Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12401063 [link to jhaines6.wordpress.com] Doesn't disprove or prove anything. "we all need a helping hand, at the same time giving two to help" - me |
Oengus (OP) User ID: 12527214 United States 03/25/2013 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the 1* it shows you care Last Edited by Oengus on 03/25/2013 08:46 PM "we all need a helping hand, at the same time giving two to help" - me |
Solar Guardian User ID: 36690922 Malaysia 03/25/2013 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a lot in this latest letter released 3/24/13, going from why wars are caused to why the Pope left office so quickly. The last part of the letter is where Mehran makes the statement. Quoting: Oengus It has been raised in private and in public and on the forum of the Foundation if I am the prophet or a promised one and if my peace treaty document about the status of scientists makes me a prophet. Quoting: Mehran KesheMy answer to these questions, which have been raised among my family and by close friends for years and now public, is very simple. The answer clearly and irrevocably is: Yes. I am a messenger and a messenger of science and through its power a messenger of peace. In the passage of time the prophets of the past appeared at a time when the human race needed to attain a new understanding of what was to come. Their Holinesses Mohammed, Christ, Moses and the rest all appointed the time of the return of the promised one as the time of peace and milk and honey. In fact the time of the prophets of Earth had come to its end long before the time when I declared my position, as the prophets they promised have been prophets for the race of man and his time on Earth which was fulfilled long before this time in the last century. My job and mission is guiding and teaching man so that he can finally join the rest of the creations of the Creator in the universe. Our jobs as prophet of the man and messengers of universe are clearly separate and have different criteria and objectives. The prophets of man never spoke of the reunion of man with the universal community as this was not their appointed duty. Even though they were aware of the existence of both dimensions, man at their time was not ready for such a transformation and knowledge. Now that man is ready, it is our clear job and duty as the universal messengers with full knowledge of the working of the universe and its society to guide man through this narrow channel, full of opportunities for things to go wrong, and they are: one being in opening of the universe to man and the other in guiding the man with the interaction of man with the universal community. It is our job as universal messengers to prepare man for the unification in an orderly and correct manner even though not all men will understand this initial stage. For this reason we have started to correct the mistakes of science in the books released initially, and now we are ready to take you through to the universal community. But the universe is a peaceful place and there is no room for aggression and war. [link to forum.keshefoundation.org] There is a lot more to the letter as I stated in the beginning of the post. Please read it all and shear you thoughts. If needed I can post the whole letter. Dr. Keshe says "universal community"? Does he mean them>>>>>>>> |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31742020 Australia 03/26/2013 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's something I lifted from Energetic forum: News: Keshe got disinvited from a new energy congress in Germany in May. The organizer (the swiss Jupiter-Verlag) had made it a nonnegotiatable precondition for Keshe's presentation that he must practically demonstrate one of his "3-4kW generators", to which Keshe had originally agreed. Since he promised to deliver about 150 of these generators in mid April, it should be no problem to demonstrate one in mid May. Many German Keshe fans had high hopes for this congress. Two days ago however, the first inofficial notice appeared that Keshe's presentation had been canceled. Yesterday someone in a German forum inquired of the organizer whether this is true and got a confirmation. Keshe had withdrawn his consent to practically demonstrate a generator and got accordingly disinvited. Draw your own conclusions what this means for the generator delivery in mid April. |
Weasel Keeper User ID: 36917016 United States 03/26/2013 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems like Keshe has reinvented himself as a new age guru. Much easier than delivery on his promises of free energy and flying cars. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31742020 Here's something I lifted from Energetic forum: News: Keshe got disinvited from a new energy congress in Germany in May. The organizer (the swiss Jupiter-Verlag) had made it a nonnegotiatable precondition for Keshe's presentation that he must practically demonstrate one of his "3-4kW generators", to which Keshe had originally agreed. Since he promised to deliver about 150 of these generators in mid April, it should be no problem to demonstrate one in mid May. Many German Keshe fans had high hopes for this congress. Two days ago however, the first inofficial notice appeared that Keshe's presentation had been canceled. Yesterday someone in a German forum inquired of the organizer whether this is true and got a confirmation. Keshe had withdrawn his consent to practically demonstrate a generator and got accordingly disinvited. Draw your own conclusions what this means for the generator delivery in mid April. This is what I've been telling you all along, OP, what will it take for you to see the hoax that keshe is? Wild Weasels? You've got to be shitting me! |
Oengus (OP) User ID: 12527214 United States 03/26/2013 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems like Keshe has reinvented himself as a new age guru. Much easier than delivery on his promises of free energy and flying cars. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31742020 Here's something I lifted from Energetic forum: News: Keshe got disinvited from a new energy congress in Germany in May. The organizer (the swiss Jupiter-Verlag) had made it a nonnegotiatable precondition for Keshe's presentation that he must practically demonstrate one of his "3-4kW generators", to which Keshe had originally agreed. Since he promised to deliver about 150 of these generators in mid April, it should be no problem to demonstrate one in mid May. Many German Keshe fans had high hopes for this congress. Two days ago however, the first inofficial notice appeared that Keshe's presentation had been canceled. Yesterday someone in a German forum inquired of the organizer whether this is true and got a confirmation. Keshe had withdrawn his consent to practically demonstrate a generator and got accordingly disinvited. Draw your own conclusions what this means for the generator delivery in mid April. This is what I've been telling you all along, OP, what will it take for you to see the hoax that keshe is? As you have keep assuming that you know what I think about this whole Keshe thing. What will it take for you to understand that I am investigating this until there is proof from either side. Because I have seen a few of the things Keshe has talked about. I have posted video of some of these items in the past. I am not saying that those items work as he said but that he did show something. But no hard proof that I have found. Without working with those items I cannot tell you how they work. But if you have proof that it is a hoax as you say it is, then please do share. As everything I have seen is just speculation and nothing as hard proof. "we all need a helping hand, at the same time giving two to help" - me |
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Oengus (OP) User ID: 12527214 United States 03/26/2013 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is why I want to know more. His ideas about the soul is along the same line that my thinking has been since I was a teen. Along with his theories about magnetism, and its course of interactions. "we all need a helping hand, at the same time giving two to help" - me |
Weasel Keeper User ID: 36917016 United States 03/26/2013 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems like Keshe has reinvented himself as a new age guru. Much easier than delivery on his promises of free energy and flying cars. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31742020 Here's something I lifted from Energetic forum: News: Keshe got disinvited from a new energy congress in Germany in May. The organizer (the swiss Jupiter-Verlag) had made it a nonnegotiatable precondition for Keshe's presentation that he must practically demonstrate one of his "3-4kW generators", to which Keshe had originally agreed. Since he promised to deliver about 150 of these generators in mid April, it should be no problem to demonstrate one in mid May. Many German Keshe fans had high hopes for this congress. Two days ago however, the first inofficial notice appeared that Keshe's presentation had been canceled. Yesterday someone in a German forum inquired of the organizer whether this is true and got a confirmation. Keshe had withdrawn his consent to practically demonstrate a generator and got accordingly disinvited. Draw your own conclusions what this means for the generator delivery in mid April. This is what I've been telling you all along, OP, what will it take for you to see the hoax that keshe is? As you have keep assuming that you know what I think about this whole Keshe thing. What will it take for you to understand that I am investigating this until there is proof from either side. Because I have seen a few of the things Keshe has talked about. I have posted video of some of these items in the past. I am not saying that those items work as he said but that he did show something. But no hard proof that I have found. Without working with those items I cannot tell you how they work. But if you have proof that it is a hoax as you say it is, then please do share. As everything I have seen is just speculation and nothing as hard proof. You insist that I need proof that it's a hoax? Let's try it by the scientific method, Keshe makes a claim that he has created plasma in a plastic pop bottle, it's HIS responsibility to prove it without a doubt and do it with independent observers (REAL SCIENTISTS) present as witnesses, he FAILS! HE makes claims he can't back up with any real proof. WHERE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF PROOF IS, IS ON KESHE! What part of that don't you understand? Are you retarded? Seriously! Wild Weasels? You've got to be shitting me! |
Solar Guardian User ID: 36943454 Malaysia 03/26/2013 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Judging from what Dr. Keshe has said, it seems highly likely that ET open contact is quite imminent....I'd say weeks from now....All governments now must be having sleepless nights planning how to tell this inevitable event to the public whilst confronting many other thorny issues that would be brought into question when talking about ETs.... |
Weasel Keeper User ID: 36917016 United States 03/26/2013 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Judging from what Dr. Keshe has said, it seems highly likely that ET open contact is quite imminent....I'd say weeks from now....All governments now must be having sleepless nights planning how to tell this inevitable event to the public whilst confronting many other thorny issues that would be brought into question when talking about ETs.... Quoting: Solar Guardian Wild Weasels? You've got to be shitting me! |
LaniJane User ID: 36949339 United States 03/27/2013 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First time I read any of Keshe's propoganda, I was skeptical but hopeful. That was 2 yrs. ago. Keshe has never publicly proven any of his claims. Bullshitter of the highest order. "There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls." ~ George Carlin |
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Oengus (OP) User ID: 12527214 United States 03/27/2013 05:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems like Keshe has reinvented himself as a new age guru. Much easier than delivery on his promises of free energy and flying cars. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31742020 Here's something I lifted from Energetic forum: News: Keshe got disinvited from a new energy congress in Germany in May. The organizer (the swiss Jupiter-Verlag) had made it a nonnegotiatable precondition for Keshe's presentation that he must practically demonstrate one of his "3-4kW generators", to which Keshe had originally agreed. Since he promised to deliver about 150 of these generators in mid April, it should be no problem to demonstrate one in mid May. Many German Keshe fans had high hopes for this congress. Two days ago however, the first inofficial notice appeared that Keshe's presentation had been canceled. Yesterday someone in a German forum inquired of the organizer whether this is true and got a confirmation. Keshe had withdrawn his consent to practically demonstrate a generator and got accordingly disinvited. Draw your own conclusions what this means for the generator delivery in mid April. This is what I've been telling you all along, OP, what will it take for you to see the hoax that keshe is? As you have keep assuming that you know what I think about this whole Keshe thing. What will it take for you to understand that I am investigating this until there is proof from either side. Because I have seen a few of the things Keshe has talked about. I have posted video of some of these items in the past. I am not saying that those items work as he said but that he did show something. But no hard proof that I have found. Without working with those items I cannot tell you how they work. But if you have proof that it is a hoax as you say it is, then please do share. As everything I have seen is just speculation and nothing as hard proof. You insist that I need proof that it's a hoax? Let's try it by the scientific method, Keshe makes a claim that he has created plasma in a plastic pop bottle, it's HIS responsibility to prove it without a doubt and do it with independent observers (REAL SCIENTISTS) present as witnesses, he FAILS! HE makes claims he can't back up with any real proof. WHERE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF PROOF IS, IS ON KESHE! What part of that don't you understand? Are you retarded? Seriously! From what Keshe is saying there has been independent testing and he even gave the names of the places that done them. Have you tried to contact any of them? I have. And I knew it wouldn't take long for you to start with the name calling. But hey if it makes you feel better about yourself, then by all means. Last Edited by Oengus on 03/27/2013 05:14 AM "we all need a helping hand, at the same time giving two to help" - me |
Oengus (OP) User ID: 12527214 United States 03/27/2013 05:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First time I read any of Keshe's propoganda, I was skeptical but hopeful. That was 2 yrs. ago. Keshe has never publicly proven any of his claims. Bullshitter of the highest order. Quoting: LaniJane Then how do those items that he has shown work? Seen you say he never showed anything, what are those items then? "we all need a helping hand, at the same time giving two to help" - me |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9027211 Germany 03/27/2013 06:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @Oengus: Have you tried to contact any of them? I have. Quoting: OengusWhere's the meat? This is ridiculous without: Whom exactly did you contact (organization, name, phone number). Concerning what issue exactly? What was the exact answer? And pleeeease don't come with some "confidentiality" nonsense. The time for unsubstantiated claims concerning Keshe is over. |
Ibrahim User ID: 29705895 United Kingdom 03/27/2013 07:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Il tell you the truth. Humans are too stupid to handle technology. God will destroy you and make you live in a mud hut. Its what he likes. This is the truth, science and technology is dead, because you screw it up and use it to defraud, torture and kill. Aliens have different instincts so they can have technology and as soon as they deviate they get sent here. You worship materials, technology, fame and other man made bullshit. God hates you. Send him my message. Ibrahim |
Oengus (OP) User ID: 12527214 United States 03/27/2013 07:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @Oengus: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9027211 Have you tried to contact any of them? I have. Quoting: OengusWhere's the meat? This is ridiculous without: Whom exactly did you contact (organization, name, phone number). Concerning what issue exactly? What was the exact answer? And pleeeease don't come with some "confidentiality" nonsense. The time for unsubstantiated claims concerning Keshe is over. Review his work, he states the names many times. And sorry but the answer I got was, "We cannot comment about this." Why not, no we have never worked with him before? Got the same answer when I called asking about whether or not the US received the USB stick Keshe claimed to given. Once again if they did not receive it why not just say no? "we all need a helping hand, at the same time giving two to help" - me |