A Fair Warning To The Alleged "Christians" of GLP. A Litmus Test?

Anyway, nothing of any real fruit will come from threads like this. Not by any fault of the OP, but because of the same reason the saying "Two things I don't discuss: Religion and Politics" was invented.


When it comes to religion and politics, people are SOOOO attached to what they "believe" in, that discussing them, which the hopes that individuals will keep OPEN MINDS, is nearly IMPOSSIBLE.


A christian who enters a discussion/debate with a non-believer, with the possibility of abandoning his "faith", is considered lacking in faith. Open-mindedness is looked down upon.


It is the same with politics.



The majority of people use their belief systems as tools of comfort anyway, rather than tools of growing. For an individual to truly grow, he needs to be willing to shed ANYTHING and EVERYTHING, otherwise he is unfortunately clinging and grasping to something, and that very act will diminish his perception.

Too true.

Yep.

Weak people hate.

Your way overused generality with no facts to back it up
leaves you with zip OP.

Do you see what is going on in the Middle East by non-Christians? Excuse me, most of the hospitals in the world have a Christian saint's name. And all the churches
and cathedrals, worldwide they were built for what? To worship and honor to God, yes, a place to pray.

Come along, without God, what do you have?

I gave you the references, you should have checked them out first.

Ro:13:3:
For rulers are not a terror to good works,
but to the evil.
Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power?
do that which is good,
and thou shalt have praise of the same:
Ro:13:4:
For he is the minister of God to thee for good.
But if thou do that which is evil,
be afraid;
for he beareth not the sword in vain:
for he is the minister of God,
a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Who is in trouble in Jeremiah 25, you also need to read that before you can supply the right answer. This little bit should clue you in as to who it is.

Jer:25:26:
And all the kings of the north,
far and near,
one with another,
and all the kingdoms of the world,
which are upon the face of the earth:
and the king of Sheshach shall drink after them.
Jer:25:27:
Therefore thou shalt say unto them,
Thus saith the LORD of hosts,
the God of Israel;
Drink ye,
and be drunken,
and spue,
and fall,
and rise no more,
because of the sword which I will send among you.
Jer:25:28:
And it shall be,
if they refuse to take the cup at thine hand to drink,
then shalt thou say unto them,
Thus saith the LORD of hosts;
Ye shall certainly drink.
Jer:25:29:
For,
lo,
I begin to bring evil on the city which is called by my name,
and should ye be utterly unpunished?
Ye shall not be unpunished:
for I will call for a sword upon all the inhabitants of the earth,
saith the LORD of hosts.
Jer:25:30:
Therefore prophesy thou against them all these words,
and say unto them,
The LORD shall roar from on high,
and utter his voice from his holy habitation;
he shall mightily roar upon his habitation;
he shall give a shout,
as they that tread the grapes,
against all the inhabitants of the earth.
Jer:25:31:
A noise shall come even to the ends of the earth;
for the LORD hath a controversy with the nations,
he will plead with all flesh;
he will give them that are wicked to the sword,
saith the LORD.
Jer:25:32:
Thus saith the LORD of hosts,
Behold,
evil shall go forth from nation to nation,
and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.
Jer:25:33:
And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth:
they shall not be lamented,
neither gathered,
nor buried;
they shall be dung upon the ground.

That fits with the rulers of Romans 13, the name of that book is also a big clue as to who the rulers with authority over the sword is. If they are the servants in one reference that is who the other references are also meaning. You having a hard time accepting that is your problem.

When the sheep and goats of the Nations are gathered in Matthew 25 do you think the rulers get a free pass? They don't, those who are given more by God are also judged more harshly.

Lu:12:42:
And the Lord said,
Who then is that faithful and wise steward,
whom his lord shall make ruler over his household,
to give them their portion of meat in due season?
Lu:12:43:
Blessed is that servant,
whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
Lu:12:44:
Of a truth I say unto you,
that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.
Lu:12:45:
But and if that servant say in his heart,
My lord delayeth his coming;
and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens,
and to eat and drink,
and to be drunken;
Lu:12:46:
The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him,
and at an hour when he is not aware,
and will cut him in sunder,
and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.
Lu:12:47:
And that servant,
which knew his lord's will,
and prepared not himself,
neither did according to his will,
shall be beaten with many stripes.
Lu:12:48:
But he that knew not,
and did commit things worthy of stripes,
shall be beaten with few stripes.
For unto whomsoever much is given,
of him shall be much required:
and to whom men have committed much,
of him they will ask the more.
Lu:12:49:
I am come to send fire on the earth;
and what will I,
if it be already kindled?


Here are the Jewish bankers, I assume you don't need all the verses to see how things turned out in these two instances. Usury would be a banking term would it not?

M't:21:12:
And Jesus went into the temple of God,
and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple,
and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers,
and the seats of them that sold doves,

M'r:11:15:
And they come to Jerusalem:
and Jesus went into the temple,
and began to cast out them that sold and bought in the temple,
and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers,
and the seats of them that sold doves;

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Salt,

There is one unpardonable sin, thinking you are not worthy
to be forgiven.

out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword:)

We have prophecy so that we can DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT before it happens, I think. That's just me though. I just think so many people who study Biblical prophecy, which I agree with, tend to only focus on letting it play out, observing it and what the end result of it will be. What I'm saying is how can we cope with it? How can we prepare for it? How can we make sure our future generations are better off and better equipped for when the final hour arrives? The Church, in all her Glory, still preaches so much about the END ONLY - be it the End of the World or the End of ones Days unto an Eternal Afterlife of either Heaven or Hell. I am saying we need to be focused on how to live NOW and put all our efforts, all our strength, all our commitment and all our Wisdom into living and dealing with the situation at hand. I stand by everything I said in my post because the Church is sick. She is on life-support. His Bride is dying. Beauty Sleeps. She needs to be woken up out of her slumber. But then again, I'm not afraid to be the first to admit I'm wrong. I just think misunderstood.

I'm not surprised your ignoring my points I made OP. I've seen you pro illuminati posts

I'm not gonna judge you, make threats, or tell you your evil or stupid.

In time you will know the truth.

Not all of my red responses/edits showed up, so there is some mixed black font in with your original statement. It's fun. I used to chew kids like you up for breakfast.

Well thought out and you made me laugh. Had a huge smile on my face the whole time. Good job. It was a real ZINGER!

I agree everyone needs to keep moving foward and not be victims. We need to hope for the best and plan for the worse. But I do believe a watchful Christian eye will tell you we are certainly living in the end of the end times. I believe these things MUST come to pass, for the greater scheme of God's plan to be worked out.

I believe what he has planned for humanity and all that have gone before is much better than extending our temporal fallen state.

OP, You are wasting time playing games. You don't know what you believe and you are wasting our time too. On top of that, you had some pretty messed up parents, I bet you didn't know one of your parents - mostly raised by one parent. There has been a lot of confusion about more things than religion.

Who is that one person who professes to be Christian but is really an asshole that you are secretly fighting with this post? It's okay, we all do it to some extent, it's kind of normal. But you are blaming a HUGE group of people over centuries for a problem you cannot reconcile personally.

People, what have you done?
Locked him in his golden cage, golden cage
Made him bend to your religion
Him resurrected from the grave, from the grave

He is the God of nothing
If that's all that you can see
You are the God of everything
He's inside you and me

So lean upon him gently
And don't call on him to save you
From your social graces
And the sins you used to waive, you used to waive

The bloody church of England
In chains of history
Requests your earthly presence
At the vicarage for tea

And the graven image you know who
With his plastic crucifix, he's got him fixed
Confuses me as to who and where and why?
As to how he gets his kicks, he gets his kicks

Confessing to the endless sin
The endless whining sounds
You'll be praying till next Thursday
To all the gods that you can count

Not hardly, God had Daniel and his 3 friends bring all the old works (oral and written) back into pristine condition. The Babylonian Talmud was a work of the Jews that caused the exile into Babylon.

Jesus would not have said this if the OT was to be ignored, rather what the NT covers in prophecy the OT covers with vey fine detail to those same events.

Lu:24:27:
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets,
he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

You hit pretty close to home. Please keep going. Did I strike a nerve? You want to hit below the belt so this must be a pretty serious issue to you. But what did I say that was so bad? What I said is the TRUTH. Judgement begins in the House of God. You cannot rightly say that what Western Civilization calls "Church" is anything CLOSE to what it should be as God would want. Right?

Can't quite understand why you use the term "'alleged' Christians".

They are Christians alright.

They're just not the followers of Jesus; they are followers of Paul.

What Christians do not understand is that the fundamental Revelation received by Jesus--which was the basis of his Teaching about love--was the Revelation of the Memory of Creation and the revelation of the memories of previous lives; the Revelation for which he was murdered in the first place.

It was through the Revelation of the Memory of Creation that the Love of God for man was made manifest, as explained in some detail in the Gospel of Truth, found at Nag Hammadi; the love of man for one another being based on the experiential understanding that we are all in this together; that we all live numerous lives; that, in one life or another, we may very well be 'raised from the dead' to walk in the shoes of those who we hate in this life.

If the Christians would merely admit that they are followers of Paul rather than followers of the Teaching of Jesus it would be to their advantage. But it is because they insist that they are followers of Jesus, while having a venomous hatred for his Teaching that makes some people angry.

Michael

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Thank you!! Amazing song!! :)

well said

Gives us an opportunity to practice repenting, you don't even have to guess about the fate of the un-repented ones.

1Pe:4:17:
For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God:
and if it first begin at us,
what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
1Pe:4:18:
And if the righteous scarcely be saved,
where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

Re:9:20:
And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands,
that they should not worship devils,
and idols of gold,
and silver,
and brass,
and stone,
and of wood:
which neither can see,
nor hear,
nor walk:
Re:9:21:
Neither repented they of their murders,
nor of their sorceries,
nor of their fornication,
nor of their thefts.

OP is under the impression that corporations are people. Jesus Christ railed against institutions like the Pharisees during His entire ministry. Pointing out that instituions create injustice and demanding social justice is not anti-Christian. It's exactly what Jesus spent His life doing.

OP is full of B.S.

So I'm B.S. because I'm not saying arm myself to the teeth to fight the wicked, evil Powers That Be as I defend myself and my family from the big, bad wolf coming to huff and puff and blow my house down? Ye of little Faith.

It is not the best gift available though.

1Co:13:1:
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels,
and have not charity,
I am become as sounding brass,
or a tinkling cymbal.
1Co:13:2:
And though I have the gift of prophecy,
and understand all mysteries,
and all knowledge;
and though I have all faith,
so that I could remove mountains,
and have not charity,
I am nothing.
1Co:13:3:
And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor,
and though I give my body to be burned,
and have not charity,
it profiteth me nothing.
1Co:13:4:
Charity suffereth long,
and is kind;
charity envieth not;
charity vaunteth not itself,
is not puffed up,
1Co:13:8:
Charity never faileth:
but whether there be prophecies,
they shall fail;
whether there be tongues,
they shall cease;
whether there be knowledge,
it shall vanish away.
1Co:13:13:
And now abideth faith,
hope,
charity,
these three;
but the greatest of these is charity.

Under US law coporations ARE citizens, hence 'corporate citizen'.