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Should American Christians support or reject Gay Marriage?

 
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From a political standpoint, here's some food for thought: currently homosexuals who are not legally married but cohabiting pay approximately 65% more in taxes than legally married couples. I wonder if the President would veto any legislation just to keep that money?
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by definition Christians MUST reject homosexual conduct. this doesn't make it "right" just what Christians do. this thrad is bait. pls die
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Of course Christians should support gay marriage and stop their bigoted oppression of gays.

If they consider homosexuality a sin Jesus was explicit on this.

John 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

Perhaps they should be silent and let GOD be the judge... They aren't entitled to judge!

Matthew 7:1-5 "Do not judge others...."

As soon as homosexuality is brought up the self-righteous amongst us automatically ignore Jesus' teachings and go into bigot mode.

It is great to see so many believers on here that are free from sin and qualified to throw the first stone.

You can't be a bigot and call yourself Christian - Can you?

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I understand where you're coming from but to just sit back and let tyranny or evil overtake the world just isn't right. I mean Jesus stood up against the bankers of his day...there are many examples throughout the OT and NT of godly men standing up to evil so I will say it without shame I am against homosexual marriage.
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Ephesians 6:12 "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms."


Do you understand this scripture? I mean.....really understand it?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I'm not arguing over this...i certainly understand it's a demonic influence behind our government and our society as a whole that is leading america astray. All I'm saying is I do not support gay marriage. If that offends, oh well. I'm not starting a war over it, but if someone asks me where I stand on the issue, I won't shy away.
 Quoting: No More Lies


I"m not for it, or against it. It's none of my business.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


It surely IS your business.

Read Romans 1.

It is the judgment of God falling on our nation.
When a nation turns it's back on God, as we have,
the first thing that goes is sexual morality.
Then the nation accepts and even embraces homosexuality.
That could NEVER happen in America. Right?
It HAS happened and Paul warned 2000 years ago
it would happen. And it will ALWAYS happen to ANY nation
that forsakes God. His Word proclaims it.
These particular sins were CONSIDERED evil when I grew
up in the fifties. So EVIL, that they were punished
and punished harshly.
The collapse of morality in America caused
by the apathy and indifference of the people of God
has brought us to the brink of moral and financial ruin.
This has happened many times in history, and Paul warns
us of the inevitable consequences.
We haven't heeded the warning, so we will pay
the price. We and our children.

ROMANS 1
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to UNCLEANNESS through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto VILE AFFECTIONS: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a REPROBATE MIND, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are WORTHY OF DEATH, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
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As followers of Christ, we should love everything "God " put on the planet.We don't have to agree , but love & understanding should be shown to everyone, It's not our place to judge. We should try and help them understand that being gay according to the Bible is an abomination to "God". However we should not be judge & jury. WE should remove our own board from the eye before trying to remove someone else's. "God" doesn't have a scale for sin, one's sin is the transgression of "God's" law. and every man , woman & child has fallin short of the glory of God. Love one another as "God" has loved us. Never hate the person, but the sin itself. Jesus himself said the same, even when sin is apparent , during the time that the people wanted to stone to death a so called woman of sin, Jesus, asked that the 1st stone thrown should be from anyone that had never sinned before. Of course nobody could.
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Ephesians 6:12 "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms."


Do you understand this scripture? I mean.....really understand it?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I'm not arguing over this...i certainly understand it's a demonic influence behind our government and our society as a whole that is leading america astray. All I'm saying is I do not support gay marriage. If that offends, oh well. I'm not starting a war over it, but if someone asks me where I stand on the issue, I won't shy away.
 Quoting: No More Lies


I"m not for it, or against it. It's none of my business.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


It surely IS your business.

Read Romans 1.

It is the judgment of God falling on our nation.
When a nation turns it's back on God, as we have,
the first thing that goes is sexual morality.
Then the nation accepts and even embraces homosexuality.
That could NEVER happen in America. Right?
It HAS happened and Paul warned 2000 years ago
it would happen. And it will ALWAYS happen to ANY nation
that forsakes God. His Word proclaims it.
These particular sins were CONSIDERED evil when I grew
up in the fifties. So EVIL, that they were punished
and punished harshly.
The collapse of morality in America caused
by the apathy and indifference of the people of God
has brought us to the brink of moral and financial ruin.
This has happened many times in history, and Paul warns
us of the inevitable consequences.
We haven't heeded the warning, so we will pay
the price. We and our children.

ROMANS 1
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to UNCLEANNESS through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto VILE AFFECTIONS: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a REPROBATE MIND, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:


32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are WORTHY OF DEATH, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36897511


Interesting list from Romans you quoted, because I can find myself guilty in that list too........and I'm a born again dedicated follower of the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Ephesians 6:12 "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms."


Do you understand this scripture? I mean.....really understand it?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I'm not arguing over this...i certainly understand it's a demonic influence behind our government and our society as a whole that is leading america astray. All I'm saying is I do not support gay marriage. If that offends, oh well. I'm not starting a war over it, but if someone asks me where I stand on the issue, I won't shy away.
 Quoting: No More Lies


I"m not for it, or against it. It's none of my business.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


It surely IS your business.

Read Romans 1.

It is the judgment of God falling on our nation.
When a nation turns it's back on God, as we have,
the first thing that goes is sexual morality.
Then the nation accepts and even embraces homosexuality.
That could NEVER happen in America. Right?
It HAS happened and Paul warned 2000 years ago
it would happen. And it will ALWAYS happen to ANY nation
that forsakes God. His Word proclaims it.
These particular sins were CONSIDERED evil when I grew
up in the fifties. So EVIL, that they were punished
and punished harshly.
The collapse of morality in America caused
by the apathy and indifference of the people of God
has brought us to the brink of moral and financial ruin.
This has happened many times in history, and Paul warns
us of the inevitable consequences.
We haven't heeded the warning, so we will pay
the price. We and our children.

ROMANS 1
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to UNCLEANNESS through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto VILE AFFECTIONS: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a REPROBATE MIND, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are WORTHY OF DEATH, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36897511


Paul the Oppressor of Women is hardly the one to listen to.

So you would rather listen to Paul, a man, than Jesus?

See a problem with your Christian values "Oh one without sin"?

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Who among us has the balls to tell Jesus this "Sorry Jesus, but in my opinion, your death on the cross, your shed blood was not enough for that guy over there.....>"

Anyone?
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As followers of Christ, we should love everything "God " put on the planet.We don't have to agree , but love & understanding should be shown to everyone, It's not our place to judge. We should try and help them understand that being gay according to the Bible is an abomination to "God". However we should not be judge & jury. WE should remove our own board from the eye before trying to remove someone else's. "God" doesn't have a scale for sin, one's sin is the transgression of "God's" law. and every man , woman & child has fallin short of the glory of God. Love one another as "God" has loved us. Never hate the person, but the sin itself. Jesus himself said the same, even when sin is apparent , during the time that the people wanted to stone to death a so called woman of sin, Jesus, asked that the 1st stone thrown should be from anyone that had never sinned before. Of course nobody could.
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A moral society, whether it is Christian or otherwise
according to the Bible is established by God.
That society ALWAYS protects it's citizens by
punishing evil.

Drunkenness, violence, sexual immorality, murder, mayhem,
child abuse, drug abuse, thievery, and every other evil
in society, historically has been dealt with and punished
by civil authority.

Until recently homosexual behavior was universally
treated in America as a crime, and rightly so.
In most of the world, not yet polluted by the secular
humanism of the fallen Western culture, this is still
the case.

In our immoral society drunkenness is now a disease,
alcoholism. Drug abuse is now an addiction.
Homosexual behavior is now, "natural".
People who abuse their children were abused themselves,
so it's not really their fault.

This is ALL the work of Satan in this Earth, making
SIN acceptable, explainable, understandable.

and those who buy into this new "morality", which is
just the old immorality, are tools of the Devil,
no more , no less.
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The giver of the gift has the authority to decide who receives the gift.

Reminds me of the Parable of the Workers in The Vinyard in Matthew 20

The Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard

“For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire workers for his vineyard. He agreed to pay them a denarius[a] for the day and sent them into his vineyard.

“About nine in the morning he went out and saw others standing in the marketplace doing nothing. He told them, ‘You also go and work in my vineyard, and I will pay you whatever is right.’ So they went.

“He went out again about noon and about three in the afternoon and did the same thing. About five in the afternoon he went out and found still others standing around. He asked them, ‘Why have you been standing here all day long doing nothing?’

“‘Because no one has hired us,’ they answered.

“He said to them, ‘You also go and work in my vineyard.’

“When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, ‘Call the workers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last ones hired and going on to the first.’

“The workers who were hired about five in the afternoon came and each received a denarius. So when those came who were hired first, they expected to receive more. But each one of them also received a denarius. When they received it, they began to grumble against the landowner. ‘These who were hired last worked only one hour,’ they said, ‘and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the work and the heat of the day.’

“But he answered one of them, ‘I am not being unfair to you, friend. Didn’t you agree to work for a denarius? Take your pay and go. I want to give the one who was hired last the same as I gave you. Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?’

“So the last will be first, and the first will be last.”
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If Jesus said we all have to be completely free of sin to come to Him, nobody would make it. What would be the point of His death on the cross if it were not enough to wash us clean of our sins?

Don't you see this?

What is required? Jesus told us in mark 12


"One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.[e] Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[f] The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[g] There is no commandment greater than these.”

“Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.”

When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions."
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I voted "neither" as christians should not be involved in political affairs anyway........Jesus was crucified over a political matter by "religious" people who thought they were right and justified in what they were doing.

We should not be part of political matters.........it's none of our business as we are not part of this world, atleast we aren't supposed to be. That's what Jesus taught.
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So turn a blind eye on sin?
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I voted "neither" as christians should not be involved in political affairs anyway........Jesus was crucified over a political matter by "religious" people who thought they were right and justified in what they were doing.

We should not be part of political matters.........it's none of our business as we are not part of this world, atleast we aren't supposed to be. That's what Jesus taught.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


So turn a blind eye on sin?
 Quoting: MaxMad


Not my job to condemn another, and I would never want that job anyway.
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I voted "neither" as christians should not be involved in political affairs anyway........Jesus was crucified over a political matter by "religious" people who thought they were right and justified in what they were doing.

We should not be part of political matters.........it's none of our business as we are not part of this world, atleast we aren't supposed to be. That's what Jesus taught.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


i am pretty impressed by your response.


why is it do you think that most christians go up in arms over gay marriage?
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Because they like to stick their noses in other people's private business.

I'm getting really sick and tired of all the christian's on GLP constantly talking about gays around here. This does nothing but hurt others and push them away from the Lord.

Homosexuality is a sin no different then any other sin, and we all sin, every single day.

If every christian spent their time cleaning up their own sin, there would be no time wondering about others sins.

A person's sin is between them and God......period. End of story. I'm no perfect person either, first to admit it, so I don't go around pointing the finger at others who might be struggling to find their way to God.

I'm getting angry now.
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No sin should be legalized or accepted.. Bottom line...
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I voted "neither" as christians should not be involved in political affairs anyway........Jesus was crucified over a political matter by "religious" people who thought they were right and justified in what they were doing.

We should not be part of political matters.........it's none of our business as we are not part of this world, atleast we aren't supposed to be. That's what Jesus taught.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


So turn a blind eye on sin?
 Quoting: MaxMad


Not my job to condemn another, and I would never want that job anyway.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I agree with you on that... But aren't we called to inform our brothers and sisters when they are is sin?
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I voted "neither" as christians should not be involved in political affairs anyway........Jesus was crucified over a political matter by "religious" people who thought they were right and justified in what they were doing.

We should not be part of political matters.........it's none of our business as we are not part of this world, atleast we aren't supposed to be. That's what Jesus taught.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


So turn a blind eye on sin?
 Quoting: MaxMad


Not my job to condemn another, and I would never want that job anyway.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I agree with you on that... But aren't we called to inform our brothers and sisters when they are is sin?
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no, i dont believe you are.
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I voted "neither" as christians should not be involved in political affairs anyway........Jesus was crucified over a political matter by "religious" people who thought they were right and justified in what they were doing.

We should not be part of political matters.........it's none of our business as we are not part of this world, atleast we aren't supposed to be. That's what Jesus taught.
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i support lisa's comment.
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I voted "neither" as christians should not be involved in political affairs anyway........Jesus was crucified over a political matter by "religious" people who thought they were right and justified in what they were doing.

We should not be part of political matters.........it's none of our business as we are not part of this world, atleast we aren't supposed to be. That's what Jesus taught.
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So turn a blind eye on sin?
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Not my job to condemn another, and I would never want that job anyway.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


So allow others to willfully go down a dangerous path?
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The Bible says homosexuality is an abomination so Christians should reject the sin. Love the sinner, hate the sin
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I voted "neither" as christians should not be involved in political affairs anyway........Jesus was crucified over a political matter by "religious" people who thought they were right and justified in what they were doing.

We should not be part of political matters.........it's none of our business as we are not part of this world, atleast we aren't supposed to be. That's what Jesus taught.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I understand where you're coming from but to just sit back and let tyranny or evil overtake the world just isn't right. I mean Jesus stood up against the bankers of his day...there are many examples throughout the OT and NT of godly men standing up to evil so I will say it without shame I am against homosexual marriage.
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Ephesians 6:12 "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms."


Do you understand this scripture? I mean.....really understand it?
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And "man shall not lie with man as he would a woman?"
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The Bible says homosexuality is an abomination so Christians should reject the sin. Love the sinner, hate the sin
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Exactly! There is no reason to be the "judge" as some on here would say. However it is our duty and responsibility to sin. Especially sin we know is wron..
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I voted "neither" as christians should not be involved in political affairs anyway........Jesus was crucified over a political matter by "religious" people who thought they were right and justified in what they were doing.

We should not be part of political matters.........it's none of our business as we are not part of this world, atleast we aren't supposed to be. That's what Jesus taught.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


So turn a blind eye on sin?
 Quoting: MaxMad


Not my job to condemn another, and I would never want that job anyway.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Please help me understand where you are coming from? How could it be OK to legalize gay marriage? Do you really not feel as though its a sin?
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I voted "neither" as christians should not be involved in political affairs anyway........Jesus was crucified over a political matter by "religious" people who thought they were right and justified in what they were doing.

We should not be part of political matters.........it's none of our business as we are not part of this world, atleast we aren't supposed to be. That's what Jesus taught.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I understand where you're coming from but to just sit back and let tyranny or evil overtake the world just isn't right. I mean Jesus stood up against the bankers of his day...there are many examples throughout the OT and NT of godly men standing up to evil so I will say it without shame I am against homosexual marriage.
 Quoting: No More Lies


Ephesians 6:12 "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms."


Do you understand this scripture? I mean.....really understand it?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


And "man shall not lie with man as he would a woman?"
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then dont and you'll be fine.

worry about your own sins and not those of others.
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I voted "neither" as christians should not be involved in political affairs anyway........Jesus was crucified over a political matter by "religious" people who thought they were right and justified in what they were doing.

We should not be part of political matters.........it's none of our business as we are not part of this world, atleast we aren't supposed to be. That's what Jesus taught.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


So turn a blind eye on sin?
 Quoting: MaxMad


Oh Lisa, I am very sorry to read your position concerning our influence on the world as being One who is called by HIS name...what has our Master said?:

"Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men."

[link to bible.cc]

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I'm scheming schemes,
I'm building castles high.
They're born anew,
Their days are few,
Just like a sweet butterfly.
And as the daylight is dawning,
They come again in the morning.
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As followers of Christ, we should love everything "God " put on the planet.We don't have to agree , but love & understanding should be shown to everyone, It's not our place to judge. We should try and help them understand that being gay according to the Bible is an abomination to "God". However we should not be judge & jury. WE should remove our own board from the eye before trying to remove someone else's. "God" doesn't have a scale for sin, one's sin is the transgression of "God's" law. and every man , woman & child has fallin short of the glory of God. Love one another as "God" has loved us. Never hate the person, but the sin itself. Jesus himself said the same, even when sin is apparent , during the time that the people wanted to stone to death a so called woman of sin, Jesus, asked that the 1st stone thrown should be from anyone that had never sinned before. Of course nobody could.
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A moral society, whether it is Christian or otherwise
according to the Bible is established by God.
That society ALWAYS protects it's citizens by
punishing evil.

Drunkenness, violence, sexual immorality, murder, mayhem,
child abuse, drug abuse, thievery, and every other evil
in society, historically has been dealt with and punished
by civil authority.

Until recently homosexual behavior was universally
treated in America as a crime, and rightly so.
In most of the world, not yet polluted by the secular
humanism of the fallen Western culture, this is still
the case.

In our immoral society drunkenness is now a disease,
alcoholism. Drug abuse is now an addiction.
Homosexual behavior is now, "natural".
People who abuse their children were abused themselves,
so it's not really their fault.

This is ALL the work of Satan in this Earth, making
SIN acceptable, explainable, understandable.

and those who buy into this new "morality", which is
just the old immorality, are tools of the Devil,
no more , no less.
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clappa
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I voted "neither" as christians should not be involved in political affairs anyway........Jesus was crucified over a political matter by "religious" people who thought they were right and justified in what they were doing.

We should not be part of political matters.........it's none of our business as we are not part of this world, atleast we aren't supposed to be. That's what Jesus taught.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


So turn a blind eye on sin?
 Quoting: MaxMad


Not my job to condemn another, and I would never want that job anyway.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Please help me understand where you are coming from? How could it be OK to legalize gay marriage? Do you really not feel as though its a sin?
 Quoting: MaxMad


Lisa is 100% right on this issue. and seldom do we agree.

of course she believes it is a sin however it is not her job (nor yours) to condem others.
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I voted "neither" as christians should not be involved in political affairs anyway........Jesus was crucified over a political matter by "religious" people who thought they were right and justified in what they were doing.

We should not be part of political matters.........it's none of our business as we are not part of this world, atleast we aren't supposed to be. That's what Jesus taught.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


So turn a blind eye on sin?
 Quoting: MaxMad


Not my job to condemn another, and I would never want that job anyway.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I agree with you on that... But aren't we called to inform our brothers and sisters when they are is sin?
 Quoting: MaxMad


If the person is your christian brother or christian sister, then you can offer loving advice in private and tell them to pray about it.......because the Holy Spirit will let them know if they are in error or not, which is a very personal thing. The Holy Spirit is the guide here, not man.

But, this is not what we are doing here. This is not a private conversation between 2 christians, this is a debate in public including people of all faiths. This is not appropriate, nor helpful to others reading who may or may not be struggling with their own sexual tendencies and or their own relationship with God. This kind of thing only serves to push them farther and farther away from the Lord because they believe they are not loved or welcomed into the Kingdom of God, which is a horrible thing to do.
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I voted "neither" as christians should not be involved in political affairs anyway........Jesus was crucified over a political matter by "religious" people who thought they were right and justified in what they were doing.

We should not be part of political matters.........it's none of our business as we are not part of this world, atleast we aren't supposed to be. That's what Jesus taught.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


So turn a blind eye on sin?
 Quoting: MaxMad


Oh Lisa, I am very sorry to read your position concerning our influence on the world as being One who is called by HIS name...what has our Master said?:

"Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men."

[link to bible.cc]

We are never to expect righteousness in this world, but should never stop giving it, defending it and being righteous.
 Quoting: AlterEgo


Righteousness is loving God and loving your neighbor. It is not politics and the affairs of this world. This is satan's world, not my world. I am not of this world. His Kingdom has not yet come to fulfillment on earth.

We can discuss this further, but I have to get started on lunch......hubby is getting hungry.
Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For?

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Do you have questions about God or need a friend to talk to? Email me at LisaLovesJesus7@gmail.com
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So turn a blind eye on sin?
 Quoting: MaxMad


Not my job to condemn another, and I would never want that job anyway.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I agree with you on that... But aren't we called to inform our brothers and sisters when they are is sin?
 Quoting: MaxMad


If the person is your christian brother or christian sister, then you can offer loving advice in private and tell them to pray about it.......because the Holy Spirit will let them know if they are in error or not, which is a very personal thing. The Holy Spirit is the guide here, not man.

But, this is not what we are doing here. This is not a private conversation between 2 christians, this is a debate in public including people of all faiths. This is not appropriate, nor helpful to others reading who may or may not be struggling with their own sexual tendencies and or their own relationship with God. This kind of thing only serves to push them farther and farther away from the Lord because they believe they are not loved or welcomed into the Kingdom of God, which is a horrible thing to do.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


So then in private you believe its a sin? So are you saying we need to go along with this world (even sin) so as to not offend or turn anyone away?
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Not my job to condemn another, and I would never want that job anyway.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I agree with you on that... But aren't we called to inform our brothers and sisters when they are is sin?
 Quoting: MaxMad


If the person is your christian brother or christian sister, then you can offer loving advice in private and tell them to pray about it.......because the Holy Spirit will let them know if they are in error or not, which is a very personal thing. The Holy Spirit is the guide here, not man.

But, this is not what we are doing here. This is not a private conversation between 2 christians, this is a debate in public including people of all faiths. This is not appropriate, nor helpful to others reading who may or may not be struggling with their own sexual tendencies and or their own relationship with God. This kind of thing only serves to push them farther and farther away from the Lord because they believe they are not loved or welcomed into the Kingdom of God, which is a horrible thing to do.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


So then in private you believe its a sin? So are you saying we need to go along with this world (even sin) so as to not offend or turn anyone away?
 Quoting: MaxMad


are you free of sin? completely sinless

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