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Message Subject Should American Christians support or reject Gay Marriage?
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Whilst evaluating the Bible's references to homosexuality I came up with the following.

I think we have categorically proved, that many Christians, will use any method, so that they can put themselves into a position of judging others, thereby going against Jesus' precise teachings, BUT, what does the Bible say about homosexuality really.

John 13:34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another"

Does homophobic bigotry destroy this verse?

So let's start with LOT.

Genesis 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where (are) the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

Firstly to know them is often misrepresented as to have sex with them. Whose got the smutty mind with that interpretation?

[link to www.blueletterbible.org]

This story makes no sense whatsoever!

The alleged angels in the story couldn't protect themselves against these alleged ravaging hoards?... Some angels!

Even though this story is a load of rubbish let's continue.

LOT does something far worse. To allegedly protect the supposed angels he offers his virgin daughters instead.

Genesis 19:8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as [is] good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

What? To be raped by homosexuals?

Why didn't LOT just offer himself? Surely he was better bait than the daughters.

Why didn't LOT offer his wife?

I wonder what GOD would truly think of someone sacrificing up their daughters in such a terrible way?

Furthermore if the hoards were homosexual why would two virgin women distract them? It makes no sense.

Now to Moses' rubbish laws on this subject. Remember MOSES is the one who just told you that crazy LOT story.

Leviticus 18:22: "You shall not lie with a male as those who lie with a female; it is an abomination."

Leviticus 20:13: "If a man lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination and they shall surely be put to death."


These might be fine if it wasn't for the other crazy laws of MOSES. Like this one

Deuteronomy22:20-21 2 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:

Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.


Stoning a woman who doesn't bleed on her wedding night, come on now, this is crazy.

This means GOD knows nothing about the woman's body as a woman's hymen can break for many reasons, other than sex. Is GOD this dumb?

Are you accepting he designs a woman and doesn't understand the physiology? Really?

But also, if you choose to believe and oppress homosexuals because of these passages, why aren't you checking bride's bed sheets and punishing them still?

Sure, Jesus said not to stone people but you judgmental, punishing believers should be able to come up with some imaginative bullying system for the bride.

Ah selective Believers pick and choose who to discriminate against. Jesus didn't undo the checking of the sheets bit... did he?

What about the male? What if he wasn't a virgin? What punishment did he face... Oh that's right NONE!

That's right the writers of the Bible are oppressing women again.

Study Moses' ridiculous laws and you have to know they aren't from GOD.

Or this one

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;

Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.


WHAT? A woman is forced to marry her rapist as long as the rapist pays the father 50 fifty shekels of silver! Oh that's right women were only property like cattle in those days.

How could GOD approve of such a disgusting law?

Would you submit your daughter to such an horrific law?

Would you sell your raped daughter out for money?

Wouldn't this law encourage wealthy males to be above the law?

GOD DID NOT APPROVE OF SUCH THINGS!

LOOK! I could go on and on about the other occurances, the translatory errors and why only the women are punished for not being virgins... but anyone can see Mosaic Law is a farce.

I could pull out all the unGODly teachings by MOSES. I could go through the other disgusting verses, one by one, but surely you can see I'm right.

If you dislike homosexuals fine... BUT, you have no right to judge them, no right to bully them, and you as a believer cannot be a bigot!

Or are you saying JESUS taught the bigotry in your hearts?

WAKE UP! You demean GOD by accepting this stuff as "approved by GOD".

slaphim
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661



It is 2013. When most of us say, who are we to judge, we mean it. Die and come back, let us know what God had to say.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5366990


But I haven't finished teaching you people yet...

PLUS you don't have to die to understand GOD, do you?

slaphim
 
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