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Rev StarGazer  User ID: 35235999  United States03/26/2013 12:37 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder if the 'pure' Language of the Birds is similar to perfected intuitive knowing. Quoting: Septenary Man  “If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.” Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace "But ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you; or speak to the earth, and it will teach you, or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8 "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
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| Aniwti User ID: 31456116 United States03/26/2013 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | William Henry wrote an interesting book of the same title of this thread. His Quoting: Aniwti 31456116 Thanks! I was looking for a PDF to post but couldn't find one. This subject reminds me of a Hopi story much like the story of the Tower of Babel. To paraphrase: Like usual, after given instructions to live in harmony with the Earth from the creator Tiaowa, the people eventually became corrupt and petty again and along came the bird Mochni, who was "like a mockingbird", to confuse the languages. I believe it was in the World (epoch) before that incident that we were able to communicate directly with other animals, before we lost that ability by becoming corrupted. you're most welcome! from another great read.... "The Serpentine Mind Disentangles From the branches of confusion Uncoils its knowledge to greet the dawn And sees In the growing light Great colored, feathered wings That grew unnoticed in its sleep Understanding perfectly In a single rush of joy It flies above the ancient promises Beyond where the forest lies To the sea The open sea As rings around the Morning Star Light corridors through the air" --Quetzalcoatl [link to www.scribd.com] Oh yeah, I have that book on PDF, almost read it once but got distracted. Someday I hope to visit the Temple of the Sun in honor of Quetzalcoatl at Teotihuacan... TEHUTI-huacan... |
| Rev StarGazer User ID: 35235999 United States03/26/2013 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no teaching Quoting: Rev StarGazer just knowing but, it does start with an honest and pure, heartfelt desire and a mind that is open and not closed by preconcieved notions of what is possible and what is not "..except you become as a child..." Desire... I agree with what you said above, this is the thread of the day. I freaking love nature right now man. Not birds but this will blow your mind! “If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.” Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace "But ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you; or speak to the earth, and it will teach you, or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8 "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
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| Rev StarGazer User ID: 35235999 United States03/26/2013 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can't believe no one else has gone here... Quoting: Demon Cat in the Blue Basket This thread is for the birds!!!! :3  “If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.” Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace "But ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you; or speak to the earth, and it will teach you, or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8 "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
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| bobobibi User ID: 21469231 United States03/26/2013 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder if the 'pure' Language of the Birds is similar to perfected intuitive knowing. Quoting: Septenary Man Thats along the lines ive been thinking.. goes along with what you said earlier about developing the ability to simplify vast amounts if info.. for most it seems that when they are given too much infornation at any given moment, their mind automatically switches off... which is probably known by those doing the revealing slowly Zoinx |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States03/26/2013 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder if the 'pure' Language of the Birds is similar to perfected intuitive knowing. Quoting: Septenary Man It has to be...but i also feel like it is so much more than that... at a loss for an explanation or description... Intuitive knowing...perhaps putting that in the context of how the ancients would have expressed that. Yes, this sounds correct. They would have said it was coming from god, or something similar (language of higher beings, etc.) If, at some point, you begin 'knowing' knowledge or 'how the universe works' etc, intuitively, of course they would think it was coming in from on high. Makes perfect sense. Also, they say the Language of the Birds cannot be expressed in normal language. Most spiritual experiences cannot be described properly in language. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States03/26/2013 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder if the 'pure' Language of the Birds is similar to perfected intuitive knowing. Quoting: Septenary Man Thats along the lines ive been thinking.. goes along with what you said earlier about developing the ability to simplify vast amounts if info.. for most it seems that when they are given too much infornation at any given moment, their mind automatically switches off... which is probably known by those doing the revealing slowly Most definitely. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1137351 United States03/26/2013 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder if the 'pure' Language of the Birds is similar to perfected intuitive knowing. Quoting: Septenary Man Thats along the lines ive been thinking.. goes along with what you said earlier about developing the ability to simplify vast amounts if info.. for most it seems that when they are given too much infornation at any given moment, their mind automatically switches off... which is probably known by those doing the revealing slowly don't take a 'starving' man/woman to a buffet sort of thing... |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States03/26/2013 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder if the 'pure' Language of the Birds is similar to perfected intuitive knowing. Quoting: Septenary Man Thats along the lines ive been thinking.. goes along with what you said earlier about developing the ability to simplify vast amounts if info.. for most it seems that when they are given too much infornation at any given moment, their mind automatically switches off... which is probably known by those doing the revealing slowly don't take a 'starving' man/woman to a buffet sort of thing... Or do not give a thirsty man/woman too much water too quickly, or they throw it all back up. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1137351 United States03/26/2013 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder if the 'pure' Language of the Birds is similar to perfected intuitive knowing. Quoting: Septenary Man Thats along the lines ive been thinking.. goes along with what you said earlier about developing the ability to simplify vast amounts if info.. for most it seems that when they are given too much infornation at any given moment, their mind automatically switches off... which is probably known by those doing the revealing slowly don't take a 'starving' man/woman to a buffet sort of thing... Or do not give a thirsty man/woman too much water too quickly, or they throw it all back up. don't know if you feel the same, but i feel like it's right there...at the tip of my tongue... can drive ya nuts, if you let it.....;) |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States03/26/2013 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: bobobibi Thats along the lines ive been thinking.. goes along with what you said earlier about developing the ability to simplify vast amounts if info.. for most it seems that when they are given too much infornation at any given moment, their mind automatically switches off... which is probably known by those doing the revealing slowly don't take a 'starving' man/woman to a buffet sort of thing... Or do not give a thirsty man/woman too much water too quickly, or they throw it all back up. don't know if you feel the same, but i feel like it's right there...at the tip of my tongue... can drive ya nuts, if you let it.....;) I know the feeling. I've found to let it pass, and it will eventually come around. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19554329 United States03/26/2013 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last autumn when the love of my life died suddenly, i was so sad in grief over him it was as if another dimension of the reality of this world's oneness had opened. The bushes bent toward me playing music with their twigs when I'd pass by. The sun would go behind a cloud when my eyes hurt from crying. I couldn't sit down without a grasshopper or fuzzy caterpillar joining me to keep company. It seemed like the birds all knew it and wanted to go all out to give me comfort. No matter what time I was outside in the yard the birds would sing and soon many would be hopping around doing antics nearby me. Even when I'd go outside late at night, soon one bird would start chirping and then soon many more would be awake singing and entertaining me. They'd fly & swoop & sing it back when I'd whistle-word "Thank You!" to them. Things are somewhat back to normal now. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36653132 United States03/26/2013 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36653132 Webster’s says ‘Oc’ is the root of octo, 8, and ocular, the eye. A related Egyptian word, Ak, means ‘light’, and aker means ‘light being’. Ak-hu is the archetypal Cosmic Man of Light, or ideal archetype of humanity found in a host of Hermetic and Gnostic teachings, whether Egyptian, Jewish, Christian or Islamic. As Mircea Eliade notes in Shamanism, among the Iglulik Eskimos, who were driven out of some unknown homeland, a sequence of initiations concludes with the ang-ak-oq (virtually the same word as Languedoc or L’ang-ak-oq), meaning ‘lightening’ or ‘illumination’. This angakoq, writes Eliade, consists of, “a mysterious light which the shaman suddenly feels in his body, inside his head, within his brain, an inexplicable searchlight, a luminous fire which enables him to see with both eyes, both literally and metaphorically speaking, for he can now, even with closed eyes, see through darkness and perceive things and coming events which are hidden from others.” The emphasis here is on eyes and light. Enlightenment is exactly what the Cathars claimed they received from the highly symbolic Language of Oc. As an investigative mythologist, it is of great interest to me that the Egyptian hieroglyph of the heron/phoenix, , the ‘bird of light’ (akh), so closely matches the stylized fish glyph of Jesus , though it predates him by millennia. In addition, these two symbols are structurally identical to , the mathematical sign sometimes used for infinity, which spells OC. It is the root for ‘octo’ or 8. These symbols suggest a continuous transmission of knowledge of the secrets of light. Thanks! So much leads back to the Cathars. follow the 3 nail cross;-)  Goes back quite a ways. Akkad. Reading up on it now. The Greek form Babylon is an adaptation of Akkadian Babili. The Babylonian name as it stood in the 1st millennium BC had been changed from an earlier Babilli in early 2nd millennium BC, meaning "Gate of God" or "Gateway of the God" by popular etymology. The earlier name Babilla appears to be an adaptation of a non-Semitic source of unknown origin or meaning. Quoting: observation [link to en.wikipedia.org] a language no one knows the origin of Quoting: aether memory..umm, that will be coming up again..imo anyway, I thought I would finish my chores before now;-) but maybe tomorrow I will pull out my box of studies and post some info I have gathered from here and there if you don't mind? |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States03/26/2013 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Septenary Man The Greek form Babylon is an adaptation of Akkadian Babili. The Babylonian name as it stood in the 1st millennium BC had been changed from an earlier Babilli in early 2nd millennium BC, meaning "Gate of God" or "Gateway of the God" by popular etymology. The earlier name Babilla appears to be an adaptation of a non-Semitic source of unknown origin or meaning. Quoting: observation [link to en.wikipedia.org] a language no one knows the origin of Quoting: aether memory..umm, that will be coming up again..imo anyway, I thought I would finish my chores before now;-) but maybe tomorrow I will pull out my box of studies and post some info I have gathered from here and there if you don't mind? Of course I don't mind.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36832682  Argentina03/26/2013 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last autumn when the love of my life died suddenly, i was so sad in grief over him it was as if another dimension of the reality of this world's oneness had opened. The bushes bent toward me playing music with their twigs when I'd pass by. The sun would go behind a cloud when my eyes hurt from crying. I couldn't sit down without a grasshopper or fuzzy caterpillar joining me to keep company. It seemed like the birds all knew it and wanted to go all out to give me comfort. No matter what time I was outside in the yard the birds would sing and soon many would be hopping around doing antics nearby me. Even when I'd go outside late at night, soon one bird would start chirping and then soon many more would be awake singing and entertaining me. They'd fly & swoop & sing it back when I'd whistle-word "Thank You!" to them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19554329 Things are somewhat back to normal now. This proves that you can't fool nature, the only way to aproach her is with honest feelings. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36653132 United States03/26/2013 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last autumn when the love of my life died suddenly, i was so sad in grief over him it was as if another dimension of the reality of this world's oneness had opened. The bushes bent toward me playing music with their twigs when I'd pass by. The sun would go behind a cloud when my eyes hurt from crying. I couldn't sit down without a grasshopper or fuzzy caterpillar joining me to keep company. It seemed like the birds all knew it and wanted to go all out to give me comfort. No matter what time I was outside in the yard the birds would sing and soon many would be hopping around doing antics nearby me. Even when I'd go outside late at night, soon one bird would start chirping and then soon many more would be awake singing and entertaining me. They'd fly & swoop & sing it back when I'd whistle-word "Thank You!" to them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19554329 Things are somewhat back to normal now. This proves that you can't fool nature, the only way to aproach her is with honest feelings. this is why I believe "nature" will confirm or deny |
| Rev StarGazer User ID: 35235999 United States03/26/2013 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Webster’s says ‘Oc’ is the root of octo, 8, and ocular, the eye. A related Egyptian word, Ak, means ‘light’, and aker means ‘light being’. Ak-hu is the archetypal Cosmic Man of Light, or ideal archetype of humanity found in a host of Hermetic and Gnostic teachings, whether Egyptian, Jewish, Christian or Islamic. As Mircea Eliade notes in Shamanism, among the Iglulik Eskimos, who were driven out of some unknown homeland, a sequence of initiations concludes with the ang-ak-oq (virtually the same word as Languedoc or L’ang-ak-oq), meaning ‘lightening’ or ‘illumination’. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36653132 This angakoq, writes Eliade, consists of, “a mysterious light which the shaman suddenly feels in his body, inside his head, within his brain, an inexplicable searchlight, a luminous fire which enables him to see with both eyes, both literally and metaphorically speaking, for he can now, even with closed eyes, see through darkness and perceive things and coming events which are hidden from others.” The emphasis here is on eyes and light. Enlightenment is exactly what the Cathars claimed they received from the highly symbolic Language of Oc. As an investigative mythologist, it is of great interest to me that the Egyptian hieroglyph of the heron/phoenix, , the ‘bird of light’ (akh), so closely matches the stylized fish glyph of Jesus , though it predates him by millennia. In addition, these two symbols are structurally identical to , the mathematical sign sometimes used for infinity, which spells OC. It is the root for ‘octo’ or 8. These symbols suggest a continuous transmission of knowledge of the secrets of light. Did you know that the Hawaiian word for God is Akua? and Io - the hawk - is the Supreme God [Hawaiian] 'O 'OE 'IO, E MAKUA LANI (You are ÿIo, Heavenly Father) 'O 'OE 'IO, KA WAIOLA (You are ÿIo, the Living Water) 'O 'OE 'IO, E KUMU OLA (You are ÿIo, the Source of Life) KA MEA HANA I NÄ MEA A PAU (The one who has made all things) E KU'U HAKU, (My Lord) KA MAUNA KI'EKI'E (Who is the Highest Mountain) 'O 'OE 'IO (You are 'Io) [Maori] KO KOE IO, MATUA TE KORE (You are ÿIo, the Self Existent One) KO KOE IO, TE WAIORA (You are 'Io, the Source of Life) KO KOE IO, TE PUKENGA (You are ÿIo, The Source) TE KAIHANGA O NGA MEA KATOA (The Creator of all things) KO KOE TE TOKA, (You are the Rock) TE MAUNGA TEITEI (The Highest Mountain) KO KOE IO (You are 'Io) Last Edited by Rev Woo-Woo on 03/26/2013 01:43 PM “If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.” Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace "But ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you; or speak to the earth, and it will teach you, or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8 "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24218313 United States03/26/2013 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Egotistical knowledge projection is always failure in life's purpose. You've no comprehension of your own words and understanding, so the attempted polluting of another delta isn't a worry. I would imagine. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States03/26/2013 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a good thing, it's a mind phuck on people's thinking, feeling hemispherically special. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24218313 Egotistical knowledge projection is always failure in life's purpose. You've no comprehension of your own words and understanding, so the attempted polluting of another delta isn't a worry. I would imagine. It is easier to understand who you are talking to if you designate who you are talking to. Just some friendly advice. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24218313 United States03/26/2013 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a good thing, it's a mind phuck on people's thinking, feeling hemispherically special. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24218313 Egotistical knowledge projection is always failure in life's purpose. You've no comprehension of your own words and understanding, so the attempted polluting of another delta isn't a worry. I would imagine. It is easier to understand who you are talking to if you designate who you are talking to. Just some friendly advice. Arbitrarily towards the topic. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States03/26/2013 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a good thing, it's a mind phuck on people's thinking, feeling hemispherically special. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24218313 Egotistical knowledge projection is always failure in life's purpose. You've no comprehension of your own words and understanding, so the attempted polluting of another delta isn't a worry. I would imagine. It is easier to understand who you are talking to if you designate who you are talking to. Just some friendly advice. Arbitrarily towards the topic. Oh, gotcha. There is nothing wrong with exploring topics of interest. Without seeking, what is there? |
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