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The Stand by Stephen King is one of my all time favorite books. The movie was ok, but nothing like the book. As soon as I heard about the vial going missing, it reminded me of The Stand.
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yes

The mini-series ain't bad. Probably the best King screen treatment in existence.
The end should have been less hokey though, it didn't really translate well from the book.
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It would be really hard to translate the end of the book into a movie. I liked using my imagination when reading the book. The characters in the movie just didn't seem to fit my vision of them.
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Let 'emmm.
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My husband still hasnt seen the stand he says its too long I love this movie its got a biblical scenario thats very possible
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After a little searching, it looks like arenavirus does indeed have a segmented genome, if a little slight compared to influenza. It seems to only be able to reassort with closely related viruses, however. Meaning, it seems to have an easy time swapping gene fragments with another arenavirus like Lassa.

Here's an overview of arenavirus variations: www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/5/1/241/pdf-vor
However, the freaky part comes at page 248: "Serial passages of arenaviruses in cell lines or animals could lead to the accumulation of mutations changing the viral phenotype from the natural reservoirs or from clinical samples "

Does this sound familiar to any of you? Remember when the story broke that some scientists were able to create a killer strain of the influenza virus in lab just by creating cell lines? ( [link to www.independent.co.uk]

Yeah, same concept...

I'm officially a tiny bit freaked out.
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If an outbreak does happen I will blame Obama no matter what
I will hold him fully responsible for it in my eyes
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I see i was telling a girl on this site how i got the flu from my dog that it had mutated and was real strong i got very sick
people dont understand the seriousness of viruses that are mutated from animal to human our immune systems cant fight them they are unfamiliar to us
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After a little searching, it looks like arenavirus does indeed have a segmented genome, if a little slight compared to influenza. It seems to only be able to reassort with closely related viruses, however. Meaning, it seems to have an easy time swapping gene fragments with another arenavirus like Lassa.

Here's an overview of arenavirus variations: www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/5/1/241/pdf-vor
However, the freaky part comes at page 248: "Serial passages of arenaviruses in cell lines or animals could lead to the accumulation of mutations changing the viral phenotype from the natural reservoirs or from clinical samples "

Does this sound familiar to any of you? Remember when the story broke that some scientists were able to create a killer strain of the influenza virus in lab just by creating cell lines? ( [link to www.independent.co.uk]

Yeah, same concept...

I'm officially a tiny bit freaked out.
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The Hot Zone meets The Andromeda Strain plus The Stand.

Nice.
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Never heard of "The Stand"... Is it a recent show? Read the Hot Zone... found it informative, but a little sensational. Haven't read Andromeda Strain, but it's a Crichton novel, correct? I should give it a go, later...
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I see i was telling a girl on this site how i got the flu from my dog that it had mutated and was real strong i got very sick
people dont understand the seriousness of viruses that are mutated from animal to human our immune systems cant fight them they are unfamiliar to us
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How are you sure it came from your dog? Just curious... for science...
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We are seeing alot of this stuff now with swine flu bird flu anthrax

maybe the government injecting viruses into animals to create vaccines has created these mutant virus
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It was a upper repiratory flu combo with a stomach flu in 2005 was a real bad outbreak of it in Texas my husband got this flu only had it for about a week then a month later my dog got it dog had fever runny nose took to vet he said dog caught flu from hubby he admitted the transmission then 2 weeks later i got sick i had it for a month real bad i got pneumonia my doctor said there was no way i got it from the dog he sleeps by me everynight but i called the vet and the vet said yes very possible

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I've read up on this virus. It would be difficult to weaponize, if not impossible.

I really do not see this as a threat, but hey, I could be wrong.
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my husbands flu wasnt strong he didnt need antibiotics after i got it my kids got it and were deathly ill even worse than me high fever nonstop for 2 weeks they both got pneumonia
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It better be zombies !
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From September 1989 through December 2006, the State of Portuguesa recorded 618 cases of VHF. Nearly all of the cases were individuals who worked or lived in Guanarito during the time they became infected. The case fatality rate was 23.1%.[3]
Because the virus is contracted by aerosol dissemination, concern arose shortly after the first cases emerged in 1989 due to fear of biological warfare. Potential biological terrorism agents were identified and categorized in 1999 by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) as part of the Congressional initiative to further response capabilities to biological weapons [4] . Arenaviruses causing hemorrhagic fevers, along with a genus of virus called filoviruses, were categorized in Category A; these are pathogens with the highest potential impact on public health safety.
A notable event in the timeline of this virus' scientific knowledge was the unexplained disappearance of a vial of the virus at the University of Texas Medical Branch Galveston National Laboratory, announced 2013 March 24.[5]
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Because the virus is contracted by aerosol dissemination


how do they know thats how its contracted have they tested this out on people


The lab’s director, Scott Weaver, said the Guanarito virus is an “emerging disease” that has already caused deadly outbreaks of hemorrhagic fever in Venezuela and was prioritized for research by the U.S. government because “it could be used as a potential weapon by terrorists.”

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which is spread mostly by inhalation of aerosolized droplets of saliva, respiratory secretions, urine, or blood from infected rodents.[2] Person-to-person spread is possible, but uncommon.


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aerosolized droplets

so they aerosolized it
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whoop! there it is. I knew it sounded familiar.
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which is spread mostly by inhalation of aerosolized droplets of saliva, respiratory secretions, urine, or blood from infected rodents.[2] Person-to-person spread is possible, but uncommon.


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aerosolized droplets

so they aerosolized it
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CAN YOU SAY CHEMTRAILLLLSLLLLLSLLLSLLLS!

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This professor (according to Wikipedia) was actually wounded at 13 years of age, at home, with a (drum roll please)............bazooka!
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whoop! there it is. I knew it sounded familiar.
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Thread: Virus goes missing at UTMB lab
In the movie 12 Monkeys, they had switch security protocols and procedures just ahead of a rogue scientist taking some stuff from the facility.

I wonder if they had any recent security changes lately.
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12 monkeys ? anyone ?
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ohyeah 12 of them and Outbreak
I was in a store yesterday and this guy with two kids was sneezing as loud and nastily as he could. Not covering his mouth at all! Not even attempting to; But, rather blasting it all over the establishment.
He got in line behind the individual with me and I said stuff. I even mentioned the movie Outbreak. It was very good to do so, although I did not want to bring shame nor did I express enjoyment in doing so.
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I do not think this is the only occurrence with this particular facility. Dose anyone else remember Dr. Deagle talkin'bout this place with great concern many, many moons ago?
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whoop! there it is. I knew it sounded familiar.
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In the movie 12 Monkeys, they had switch security protocols and procedures just ahead of a rogue scientist taking some stuff from the facility.

I wonder if they had any recent security changes lately.
damned
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12 monkeys ? anyone ?
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ohyeah 12 of them and Outbreak
I was in a store yesterday and this guy with two kids was sneezing as loud and nastily as he could. Not covering his mouth at all! Not even attempting to; But, rather blasting it all over the establishment.
He got in line behind the individual with me and I said stuff. I even mentioned the movie Outbreak. It was very good to do so, although I did not want to bring shame nor did I express enjoyment in doing so.
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I do not think this is the only occurrence with this particular facility. Dose anyone else remember Dr. Deagle talkin'bout this place with great concern many, many moons ago?
 Quoting: TastyThoughts

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yes when that hurricane hit it and it was nearly wiped outbump
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i think there were other reports of similar occurrence(s)
maybe 2008?

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"Yes happy Earth day. Now go tell the wicked to stop damaging the Human Species therefore/and the Earth; For, they are discombobulating the entire Universe and upsetting the Most High God." (TastyThoughts)
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OBAMA THINKS HOW HE CAN ELIMINATE 90% OF THE POPULATION ?

And that is why we cannot afford to ignore when academics stand and applaud a man who they just heard openly advocate that the world would be better off if over 5,000,000,000 human beings were to die as a result of a horrible disease.
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It would be a better place. Why deny the truth of it. Stop whom. He's right nature will do it for us. We are parasites.

Do you fear death so much as to not want Earth to be sustainable and beautiful again. Earth was here first.

We have to stop breeeding like rats. Rats should not be able to breed. Stupid dumb low IQ low Income stupid sit your kids in front of the TV Babysitter parents should not be allowed to exist. If you are so stupid not to want to teach your children and find them an irritation so you can sit on your ass instead of reading a book and gardening and getting exercise and riding a bike go put a gun to your heads.

Your killling the rest of us and this Planet. Usless eaters and wasters and makeing waste.

Hope they let it go. Do It. Do it now. Were fucked by 2020 anyways you morons.
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OBAMA THINKS HOW HE CAN ELIMINATE 90% OF THE POPULATION ?

And that is why we cannot afford to ignore when academics stand and applaud a man who they just heard openly advocate that the world would be better off if over 5,000,000,000 human beings were to die as a result of a horrible disease.
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It would be a better place. Why deny the truth of it. Stop whom. He's right nature will do it for us. We are parasites.

Do you fear death so much as to not want Earth to be sustainable and beautiful again. Earth was here first.

We have to stop breeeding like rats. Rats should not be able to breed. Stupid dumb low IQ low Income stupid sit your kids in front of the TV Babysitter parents should not be allowed to exist. If you are so stupid not to want to teach your children and find them an irritation so you can sit on your ass instead of reading a book and gardening and getting exercise and riding a bike go put a gun to your heads.

Your killling the rest of us and this Planet. Usless eaters and wasters and makeing waste.

Hope they let it go. Do It. Do it now. Were fucked by 2020 anyways you morons.
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Lol. There is no 2020. Don't be so quick to call someone a moron.
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Heheh, yeah, I had an instant 12 monkeys moment from this. A great film!
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I thought the Venezuelans believed we poisoned them. Chavez supposedly died from respiratory complications..and now a Venezuelan flu bug "missing" . Whoa.
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lol i got bad karma from banning a shill

Listen everyone has a right to there opinion but dont repeatedly stress how this is not possible for a virus to be stolen and unleashed on the government

I call you a government shill when you do this
and i will ban you
i have not banned people that disagree with my opinion
Hey I live in Texas and Im concerned with this very much thats why I posted it I dont need Karma points for this thread
I shared it as an alert to people to be prepared if this happens
get your masks ready

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U Of Texas Professor Says
Mass Death Is Imminent

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The world would be MUCH better off without 90% of the people, I don't know of anyone who can argue that point. I don't think that means 90% of humans should die or be killed though.

The virus does not transmit person to person sooo.... kind of doesn't matter does it?
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I can argue that point. Happy to!

You could not be more mistaken, and you've apparently listened to too many eliminationists.

The Earth is nowhere near capacity (my personal opinion is that we've not even reached 5%). Today, all of our famines are politically caused, and not due to a lack of arable land or water or other resources. All of them.

Improved farming techniques consistently expand crop yields, and we haven't even begun to use all the available farmland. And when we need more, we'll make more. I know this to be true because we have the ability to do so TODAY, and no foreseeable need to well into the future. Unless humanity suddenly forgets how to clear and convert wilderness into farmland, we'll be fine for as long as we can project.

But that message is boring, right? People like conflict, and tales of woe. The message of "we'll be fine, (or rather, we have the potential to be fine, although we can of course screw it up) and we can prove it" isn't nearly as interesting as the message of "DOOM! DOOM! DOOM! The sky is falling!"

Look up "Victory Garden".

Heck, look up "Aquaponics" (Example: [link to ibcofaquaponics.com] )

The average non-inner-urban American could produce a large percentage of their own food - quite possibly even a surplus - but we don't because from at least WW2 until now there really hasn't been a reason to, i.e. economically speaking it hasn't made sense.

There are a lot of things that most Westerners could do today (I'll leave out the rest of the world on this for now due to their own political handcuffs, leg-shackles and cages) that would prove to them in their own eyes that this is true. "Aquaponics" is just one avenue, and not the "magic answer" that will make everything all right. But it is a start because the "answer" is pretty darn complex.

"The Answer" has to do with our citizens being (or return to being) "individuals", and not being statists. It has to do with rejecting the Left, eradicating Socialism and all the other Marxisms, which are the antithesis of dynamic individuality. Our culture once reflected this. Not perfectly, of course, and this is not a call to "return to the good/bad old days", but rather to learn this historical lessons from then and now of the complete depravity of collectivism vs. the boundless nigh-infinite opportunities afforded to (an by) a culture based on (and rewarding) individual achievement (which YES includes non-compulsory, strictly voluntary or contractually commercial, group efforts as well).

LOOK at California! It doesn't take a "full world" to end up with a complete lack of excess capacity - all it takes is a centrally planned and compulsory system to guarantee shortages for all (except for the elite, and often even amongst them too).

Everywhere we humans turn our hand we have the ability to transform wasteland into farmlands and wilderness into gardens. The planet thrives best under full-bore exploitation. This is true of wildlife as well. I'll even include strip-mines in this equation because from half a mile away you can't see the hole, yet zillions of people (and other life forms) ultimately benefit from whatever is being mined. Were that not true, there would be no mine.

The Earth would NOT be better off without 90% of humanity. Compared to when our planet actually sported those numbers, most of us live in a well-manicured parkland.

Instead, the Earth, and everyone and everything on it, would be better off were there no longer even the slightest hint of any of the diverse forms of Marxism.
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OBAMA THINKS HOW HE CAN ELIMINATE 90% OF THE POPULATION ?

And that is why we cannot afford to ignore when academics stand and applaud a man who they just heard openly advocate that the world would be better off if over 5,000,000,000 human beings were to die as a result of a horrible disease.
 Quoting: KITKAT123


It would be a better place. Why deny the truth of it. Stop whom. He's right nature will do it for us. We are parasites.

Do you fear death so much as to not want Earth to be sustainable and beautiful again. Earth was here first.

We have to stop breeeding like rats. Rats should not be able to breed. Stupid dumb low IQ low Income stupid sit your kids in front of the TV Babysitter parents should not be allowed to exist. If you are so stupid not to want to teach your children and find them an irritation so you can sit on your ass instead of reading a book and gardening and getting exercise and riding a bike go put a gun to your heads.

Your killling the rest of us and this Planet. Usless eaters and wasters and makeing waste.

Hope they let it go. Do It. Do it now. Were fucked by 2020 anyways you morons.
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You are right. Give us the example.
You donit first and your family with you.
Thanks.
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Well now it's time to play America's Favorite Game Show...
Where the hell did the "kill off America" poison of the week go to?

Are the super sleeper Agents trained by the same folks that got us into WW-I, WW-II and most of the other ungodly shit they have told us what to do! Oh, yeah lets get those flunky Americans go do our dirty work.

OK with all the super Nazi measures put in place no-way could just anyone walk away with such deadly bio-warfare stuff. Unless this is the secret way to get rid of the Second Amendment and at the same time "pedal to the metal Eugenics"?

My entire family was purposely sprayed with various Mycoplasma's while living in Utah. We were all sprayed in 1952, and have been suffering ever since with one illness after another. Something very dark appears to have silently taken over our country.

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