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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16845676 United States 03/26/2013 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The missing Virus is from the same College where the professor that wants to end 90 percent of population FBI Gets Case of Missing Virus at Texas Biolab+ Quoting: Goofy for God [link to abcnews.go.com] The last time the vial was used was November 2012, University of Texas Medical Branch spokesman Raul Reyes told ABCNews.com. The University of Texas Medical Branch owns the $174 million biolab, which was designed with the strictest security measures to hold the deadliest viruses in the country. Guanarito Virus Symptoms [link to www.livestrong.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36811940 United States 03/26/2013 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The missing Virus is from the same College where the professor that wants to end 90 percent of population He also emailed me this document. TRANSCRIPT OF DR. PIANKA’s Vanishing Book of Life Speed to the Texas Academy of Science From Recorded Audio at speech, March 3, 2006 Texas Academy of Science SET ONE: From the Speech We've got an airborne 90 percent mortality human killing agent. Think about that. Now, so far, it’s been down, down, down. Let’s start up. But we can’t get up very far. Aldo Leopold is one of the greatest ecologists of all times. He was really the first conservation biologist. And here’s quotes from Aldo Leopold. If you haven’t read his Sand County Almanac, I encourage you to read it. It was published after he died by his children posthumously after his death … a bunch of short stories they assembled and put together. It's a really powerful book. It makes me cry when I read it. He says the land ethic changes the role of homosapiens from conqueror to steward . . . It implies that we respect our fellow members and respect the community, and we respect other things on this earth. Now, this came out of a conservation biology book. Aldo didn’t draw this. But it’s an ethical sequence based on Aldo. And here you can see what you’re really familiar with: Your own self – you take care of your money, you take care of your possessions, and maybe you’re a little bit altruistic towards your brothers and sisters and uncles and aunts. And I think if we went back 2,000 years when we were living in a cave, we’d have these little social groups – tribes – where everybody knew everybody, and we met in caves that were like this room and older individuals told stories and younger individuals learned from them. And there was some degree of altruism and respect, mutual respect there. Now we're up to the point where we have a nation and religious groups and we’re at odds within America. 50-50 split right down the middle between Democrats and Republicans. Let’s go out a little bit further and think about people of other [races] and other nations. We’re not doing very well. What about other sentient animals? Our closest relatives are chimpanzees and gorillas. We don’t treat them very well. They’re hunting gorillas, which are on the edge of extinction, and eating them – they call it “bush meat” – in Africa. We subject chimps to all kinds of things in labs to create pharmaceuticals that can help us. I always wonder how we would feel if natural selection hadn’t taken a route that it has and if in fact chimps or gorillas or both of them were superior to us and treated us the way we treat them. I think that would be fair. And finally, if we keep going out [up] and talk about all other species – and then the whole earth. And the point here is that this is where everything is focused. And you can’t move out from it. At least we don’t seem able to. Now here’s a voice crying in the wilderness. It's been widely ignored by everybody. Herman Daly, who wrote 4 books on steady-state economics – Beyond Growth: The Economics of Sustainable Development. He coined those terms. And by sustainable development, I first thought those were antonyms just strung together … they couldn’t be … it weren’t possible. He means something a little different. He means using renewable resources and leaving the earth the way it was when we came into it, each and everyone of us. Which would mean population control. We should be born with the right to reproduce but not to overreproduce. We need to change our tax system so that you’re taxed for having kids rather than getting a reward. [Applause.] Daly is being completely ignored by mainstream ecologists. They’re all into this grow, grow, grow – the principle of a ponzi … you know, growth, a chain letter, a ponzi scheme. You can’t do it. When you hear politicians say, “We’re going to grow the economy,” think about it. Money is debt. For economies to grow, debt has to increase. What we have done in spending in the last 4, 5, 6 years is put our grandchildren into debt, and their grandchildren. And they’re never going to be able to work it off. If Japan, Japan finally calls in all those American dollars in debt, America is going to go under. That could happen any time. Here’s another sort of upside to it. Actually, Dennis Meadows at the bottom there was asked to write this book – to do a study – using systems ecology – back in the days before pcs, and he did it in 1972, and the book was called Limits to Growth. And then in 1992, he and some other co-authors did a Beyond the Limits book and showed that we were over carrying capacity. And then he enlisted his daughter, Donella, to do the 30-year update, which just came out a couple of years ago. She’s dead now, but she was the most optimistic of all the people that wrote this book. And you can see it in her chapter at the very end, where she talks about what we could do if we just had the will . . . . But anyway, he estimated that we crossed the maximum number of humans the earth could support back about 1978. But up until then we could have eased into a sustainable world, but now we're 20% above. I think it’s actually much worse than that. We could not have reached six and a half billion if it weren’t for fossil fuels, to do agriculture and feed the hordes of humans around the earth. And the fossil fuels are running out. So I think we might have to cut back to, say, two billion, which would be about one-third as many people. This is an old figure from the Meadows 1992 Beyond the Limits book and you are here in 1999 – we’re actually out here now. We’re starting to experience the world oil crash, and you know that every time you fill up your car. Here’s the most optimistic projection: Is we don’t have a collapse. But here’s what’s gonna happen. And after the human population collapses, there’s going to be a lot fewer of us. Food’s going to be diminished. Pollution’s going to go down, which will be good. But there’s not going to be much to recover from. Our descendants are going to curse us for the party we took, the party we had, and I really recommend Richard Heinberg’s book The Party’s Over: Oil, War, and the Fate of Industrial Societies. This man has thought about these things deeply. The End of Oil is good, too. But it’s not anywhere as good as The Party’s Over. There have been wise people for a long time – John Stuart Mill in 1858 took issue with the whole business of grow, grow, grow. And he said he thought stationary systems made sense, stable systems. Where you don’t have bubbles that are going to burst or you’re gonna go bankrupt. He said he didn’t think the people had to elbow their way to the top, to fight, struggle with each other to get the resources. That if we could just live in a stable world where we didn’t continue to grow, and weren’t based on this grow, grow, grow thing. That we could work on the Art of Living, and we could become better human beings for it. And these are some of the things that Donella Meadows says in the end of the Limits to Growth. . . . . So, this is the end. In the 1960s when I started studying ecology, there was a lot of sand in the top of the hourglass. But in my short stint of 40, 45 years as an ecologist. Most of that sand has run out. There’s not much time left to get on an airplane, go to Madagascar, and study something while you still can. Thank you. [Applause.] SET TWO: From the Question Session AUDIENCE: ...nonproliferation, but after your talk I [assess] these things in a whole different light now. [Laughter.] PIANKA: You know the bird flu’s good, too. [Laughter.] QUESTION: … Do you have any hope for these so-called voluntary ... Are you involved in trying to design . . . PIANKA: Actually, I really hope we do. I think we ought to get to Mars while we still can. Some of you brave pioneering souls should be on a one-way spaceship to Mars. You’ll have to build yourself a greenhouse to grow your own food [laughter] a hundred degrees, whatever it takes. I think we should take the Library of Congress up with us on DVDs and so when we wink out in this little sphere, there will be a little bit of a record of what happened on Earth somewhere else. And I think on that new planet, the books kids read in kindergarten will say “The Rape of the Earth, Let’s treat our planet a little better.” But I don’t think we can [unintelligible]. QUESTIONER: I don’t think that we as an audience accurately represent society at large. [Laughter] What kind of reception have you received as you have presented these ideas to other audiences that are not representative of us? PIANKA: I speak to the converted! [Considerable laughter.] [We’re not going to be all in agreement.] I know that. But we have to speak to the people that aren’t. That’s our -- a real challenge. And convincing ‘em when the government’s telling ‘em to keep their head buried in the sand and pretend everything’s OK isn’t going to be easy. The government’s just lying to ‘em, and they’re accepting it. QUESTIONER: I had a similar point. What can we do to correct this problem? It's, it all has to come from policy level because of the way human society is structured when the governments represent people. PIANKA: Politicians can’t win elections with views like this. I could never run for office. [Laughter] [Unintelligible] [Laughter] They have to present good news to win, and they deceive themselves and deceive the public in every way they can to stay in power. Even Al Gore, who wrote the environment book, never faced overpopulation. No politician ever has. The reason China was able to turn the corner and is gonna become the new super power in the world is because they’ve got a police state and they can force people to stop reproducing. That’s the only reason they were able to turn the corner. QUESTIONER: [Unintelligible.] PIANKA: . . . Well, there’s cheating going on. You can pay in China and have more. I know all that. But there’s a solution that’s theoretically possible. I call it the Johnny Anti-Appleseed Solution. Instead of being cursed with our fertility, I would bless us with infertility. Now this could happen because male sperm counts are falling because of plastics and the estrogen mimics [unintelligible] naturally. But I asked a reproductive physiologist years ago about this. I said, “Could you design a molecule that you could administer once that would bind to the DNA to turn off reproduction and make people sterile?” And he said, yes, theoretically. And I said, well, if you did that could you design an antidote that would unmask it just briefly for as few seconds? And he said, yes, probably. So this is what we need. We need to sterilize everybody on the Earth [laughter] and make the antidote freely available to anybody who’s willing to work for it. Immediately you'd get responsible parenthood. No more juvenile delinquents, unwanted kids. You have a kid, you had to work, and you had only a few seconds to do it in. [Extended laughter] . . . . QUESTIONER: People who are educated seem to have less children. TRANSCRIPT OF DR. PIANKA’s Vanishing Book of Life Speed to the Texas Academy of Science From Recorded Audio at speech, March 3, 2006 Texas Academy of Science SET ONE: From the Speech We've got an airborne 90 percent mortality human killing agent. Think about that. Now, so far, it’s been down, down, down. Let’s start up. But we can’t get up very far. Aldo Leopold is one of the greatest ecologists of all times. He was really the first conservation biologist. And here’s quotes from Aldo Leopold. If you haven’t read his Sand County Almanac, I encourage you to read it. It was published after he died by his children posthumously after his death … a bunch of short stories they assembled and put together. It's a really powerful book. It makes me cry when I read it. He says the land ethic changes the role of homosapiens from conqueror to steward . . . It implies that we respect our fellow members and respect the community, and we respect other things on this earth. Now, this came out of a conservation biology book. Aldo didn’t draw this. But it’s an ethical sequence based on Aldo. And here you can see what you’re really familiar with: Your own self – you take care of your money, you take care of your possessions, and maybe you’re a little bit altruistic towards your brothers and sisters and uncles and aunts. And I think if we went back 2,000 years when we were living in a cave, we’d have these little social groups – tribes – where everybody knew everybody, and we met in caves that were like this room and older individuals told stories and younger individuals learned from them. And there was some degree of altruism and respect, mutual respect there. Now we're up to the point where we have a nation and religious groups and we’re at odds within America. 50-50 split right down the middle between Democrats and Republicans. Let’s go out a little bit further and think about people of other [races] and other nations. We’re not doing very well. What about other sentient animals? Our closest relatives are chimpanzees and gorillas. We don’t treat them very well. They’re hunting gorillas, which are on the edge of extinction, and eating them – they call it “bush meat” – in Africa. We subject chimps to all kinds of things in labs to create pharmaceuticals that can help us. I always wonder how we would feel if natural selection hadn’t taken a route that it has and if in fact chimps or gorillas or both of them were superior to us and treated us the way we treat them. I think that would be fair. And finally, if we keep going out [up] and talk about all other species – and then the whole earth. And the point here is that this is where everything is focused. And you can’t move out from it. At least we don’t seem able to. Now here’s a voice crying in the wilderness. It's been widely ignored by everybody. Herman Daly, who wrote 4 books on steady-state economics – Beyond Growth: The Economics of Sustainable Development. He coined those terms. And by sustainable development, I first thought those were antonyms just strung together … they couldn’t be … it weren’t possible. He means something a little different. He means using renewable resources and leaving the earth the way it was when we came into it, each and everyone of us. Which would mean population control. We should be born with the right to reproduce but not to overreproduce. We need to change our tax system so that you’re taxed for having kids rather than getting a reward. [Applause.] Daly is being completely ignored by mainstream ecologists. They’re all into this grow, grow, grow – the principle of a ponzi … you know, growth, a chain letter, a ponzi scheme. You can’t do it. When you hear politicians say, “We’re going to grow the economy,” think about it. Money is debt. For economies to grow, debt has to increase. What we have done in spending in the last 4, 5, 6 years is put our grandchildren into debt, and their grandchildren. And they’re never going to be able to work it off. If Japan, Japan finally calls in all those American dollars in debt, America is going to go under. That could happen any time. Here’s another sort of upside to it. Actually, Dennis Meadows at the bottom there was asked to write this book – to do a study – using systems ecology – back in the days before pcs, and he did it in 1972, and the book was called Limits to Growth. And then in 1992, he and some other co-authors did a Beyond the Limits book and showed that we were over carrying capacity. And then he enlisted his daughter, Donella, to do the 30-year update, which just came out a couple of years ago. She’s dead now, but she was the most optimistic of all the people that wrote this book. And you can see it in her chapter at the very end, where she talks about what we could do if we just had the will . . . . But anyway, he estimated that we crossed the maximum number of humans the earth could support back about 1978. But up until then we could have eased into a sustainable world, but now we're 20% above. I think it’s actually much worse than that. We could not have reached six and a half billion if it weren’t for fossil fuels, to do agriculture and feed the hordes of humans around the earth. And the fossil fuels are running out. So I think we might have to cut back to, say, two billion, which would be about one-third as many people. This is an old figure from the Meadows 1992 Beyond the Limits book and you are here in 1999 – we’re actually out here now. We’re starting to experience the world oil crash, and you know that every time you fill up your car. Here’s the most optimistic projection: Is we don’t have a collapse. But here’s what’s gonna happen. And after the human population collapses, there’s going to be a lot fewer of us. Food’s going to be diminished. Pollution’s going to go down, which will be good. But there’s not going to be much to recover from. Our descendants are going to curse us for the party we took, the party we had, and I really recommend Richard Heinberg’s book The Party’s Over: Oil, War, and the Fate of Industrial Societies. This man has thought about these things deeply. The End of Oil is good, too. But it’s not anywhere as good as The Party’s Over. There have been wise people for a long time – John Stuart Mill in 1858 took issue with the whole business of grow, grow, grow. And he said he thought stationary systems made sense, stable systems. Where you don’t have bubbles that are going to burst or you’re gonna go bankrupt. He said he didn’t think the people had to elbow their way to the top, to fight, struggle with each other to get the resources. That if we could just live in a stable world where we didn’t continue to grow, and weren’t based on this grow, grow, grow thing. That we could work on the Art of Living, and we could become better human beings for it. And these are some of the things that Donella Meadows says in the end of the Limits to Growth. . . . . So, this is the end. In the 1960s when I started studying ecology, there was a lot of sand in the top of the hourglass. But in my short stint of 40, 45 years as an ecologist. Most of that sand has run out. There’s not much time left to get on an airplane, go to Madagascar, and study something while you still can. Thank you. [Applause.] SET TWO: From the Question Session AUDIENCE: ...nonproliferation, but after your talk I [assess] these things in a whole different light now. [Laughter.] PIANKA: You know the bird flu’s good, too. [Laughter.] QUESTION: … Do you have any hope for these so-called voluntary ... Are you involved in trying to design . . . PIANKA: Actually, I really hope we do. I think we ought to get to Mars while we still can. Some of you brave pioneering souls should be on a one-way spaceship to Mars. You’ll have to build yourself a greenhouse to grow your own food [laughter] a hundred degrees, whatever it takes. I think we should take the Library of Congress up with us on DVDs and so when we wink out in this little sphere, there will be a little bit of a record of what happened on Earth somewhere else. And I think on that new planet, the books kids read in kindergarten will say “The Rape of the Earth, Let’s treat our planet a little better.” But I don’t think we can [unintelligible]. QUESTIONER: I don’t think that we as an audience accurately represent society at large. [Laughter] What kind of reception have you received as you have presented these ideas to other audiences that are not representative of us? PIANKA: I speak to the converted! [Considerable laughter.] [We’re not going to be all in agreement.] I know that. But we have to speak to the people that aren’t. That’s our -- a real challenge. And convincing ‘em when the government’s telling ‘em to keep their head buried in the sand and pretend everything’s OK isn’t going to be easy. The government’s just lying to ‘em, and they’re accepting it. QUESTIONER: I had a similar point. What can we do to correct this problem? It's, it all has to come from policy level because of the way human society is structured when the governments represent people. PIANKA: Politicians can’t win elections with views like this. I could never run for office. [Laughter] [Unintelligible] [Laughter] They have to present good news to win, and they deceive themselves and deceive the public in every way they can to stay in power. Even Al Gore, who wrote the environment book, never faced overpopulation. No politician ever has. The reason China was able to turn the corner and is gonna become the new super power in the world is because they’ve got a police state and they can force people to stop reproducing. That’s the only reason they were able to turn the corner. QUESTIONER: [Unintelligible.] PIANKA: . . . Well, there’s cheating going on. You can pay in China and have more. I know all that. But there’s a solution that’s theoretically possible. I call it the Johnny Anti-Appleseed Solution. Instead of being cursed with our fertility, I would bless us with infertility. Now this could happen because male sperm counts are falling because of plastics and the estrogen mimics [unintelligible] naturally. But I asked a reproductive physiologist years ago about this. I said, “Could you design a molecule that you could administer once that would bind to the DNA to turn off reproduction and make people sterile?” And he said, yes, theoretically. And I said, well, if you did that could you design an antidote that would unmask it just briefly for as few seconds? And he said, yes, probably. So this is what we need. We need to sterilize everybody on the Earth [laughter] and make the antidote freely available to anybody who’s willing to work for it. Immediately you'd get responsible parenthood. No more juvenile delinquents, unwanted kids. You have a kid, you had to work, and you had only a few seconds to do it in. [Extended laughter] . . . . QUESTIONER: People who are educated seem to have less children. TRANSCRIPT OF DR. PIANKA’s Vanishing Book of Life Speed to the Texas Academy of Science From Recorded Audio at speech, March 3, 2006 Texas Academy of Science SET ONE: From the Speech We've got an airborne 90 percent mortality human killing agent. Think about that. Now, so far, it’s been down, down, down. Let’s start up. But we can’t get up very far. Aldo Leopold is one of the greatest ecologists of all times. He was really the first conservation biologist. And here’s quotes from Aldo Leopold. If you haven’t read his Sand County Almanac, I encourage you to read it. It was published after he died by his children posthumously after his death … a bunch of short stories they assembled and put together. It's a really powerful book. It makes me cry when I read it. He says the land ethic changes the role of homosapiens from conqueror to steward . . . It implies that we respect our fellow members and respect the community, and we respect other things on this earth. Now, this came out of a conservation biology book. Aldo didn’t draw this. But it’s an ethical sequence based on Aldo. And here you can see what you’re really familiar with: Your own self – you take care of your money, you take care of your possessions, and maybe you’re a little bit altruistic towards your brothers and sisters and uncles and aunts. And I think if we went back 2,000 years when we were living in a cave, we’d have these little social groups – tribes – where everybody knew everybody, and we met in caves that were like this room and older individuals told stories and younger individuals learned from them. And there was some degree of altruism and respect, mutual respect there. Now we're up to the point where we have a nation and religious groups and we’re at odds within America. 50-50 split right down the middle between Democrats and Republicans. Let’s go out a little bit further and think about people of other [races] and other nations. We’re not doing very well. What about other sentient animals? Our closest relatives are chimpanzees and gorillas. We don’t treat them very well. They’re hunting gorillas, which are on the edge of extinction, and eating them – they call it “bush meat” – in Africa. We subject chimps to all kinds of things in labs to create pharmaceuticals that can help us. I always wonder how we would feel if natural selection hadn’t taken a route that it has and if in fact chimps or gorillas or both of them were superior to us and treated us the way we treat them. I think that would be fair. And finally, if we keep going out [up] and talk about all other species – and then the whole earth. And the point here is that this is where everything is focused. And you can’t move out from it. At least we don’t seem able to. Now here’s a voice crying in the wilderness. It's been widely ignored by everybody. Herman Daly, who wrote 4 books on steady-state economics – Beyond Growth: The Economics of Sustainable Development. He coined those terms. And by sustainable development, I first thought those were antonyms just strung together … they couldn’t be … it weren’t possible. He means something a little different. He means using renewable resources and leaving the earth the way it was when we came into it, each and everyone of us. Which would mean population control. We should be born with the right to reproduce but not to overreproduce. We need to change our tax system so that you’re taxed for having kids rather than getting a reward. [Applause.] Daly is being completely ignored by mainstream ecologists. They’re all into this grow, grow, grow – the principle of a ponzi … you know, growth, a chain letter, a ponzi scheme. You can’t do it. When you hear politicians say, “We’re going to grow the economy,” think about it. Money is debt. For economies to grow, debt has to increase. What we have done in spending in the last 4, 5, 6 years is put our grandchildren into debt, and their grandchildren. And they’re never going to be able to work it off. If Japan, Japan finally calls in all those American dollars in debt, America is going to go under. That could happen any time. Here’s another sort of upside to it. Actually, Dennis Meadows at the bottom there was asked to write this book – to do a study – using systems ecology – back in the days before pcs, and he did it in 1972, and the book was called Limits to Growth. And then in 1992, he and some other co-authors did a Beyond the Limits book and showed that we were over carrying capacity. And then he enlisted his daughter, Donella, to do the 30-year update, which just came out a couple of years ago. She’s dead now, but she was the most optimistic of all the people that wrote this book. And you can see it in her chapter at the very end, where she talks about what we could do if we just had the will . . . . But anyway, he estimated that we crossed the maximum number of humans the earth could support back about 1978. But up until then we could have eased into a sustainable world, but now we're 20% above. I think it’s actually much worse than that. We could not have reached six and a half billion if it weren’t for fossil fuels, to do agriculture and feed the hordes of humans around the earth. And the fossil fuels are running out. So I think we might have to cut back to, say, two billion, which would be about one-third as many people. This is an old figure from the Meadows 1992 Beyond the Limits book and you are here in 1999 – we’re actually out here now. We’re starting to experience the world oil crash, and you know that every time you fill up your car. Here’s the most optimistic projection: Is we don’t have a collapse. But here’s what’s gonna happen. And after the human population collapses, there’s going to be a lot fewer of us. Food’s going to be diminished. Pollution’s going to go down, which will be good. But there’s not going to be much to recover from. Our descendants are going to curse us for the party we took, the party we had, and I really recommend Richard Heinberg’s book The Party’s Over: Oil, War, and the Fate of Industrial Societies. This man has thought about these things deeply. The End of Oil is good, too. But it’s not anywhere as good as The Party’s Over. There have been wise people for a long time – John Stuart Mill in 1858 took issue with the whole business of grow, grow, grow. And he said he thought stationary systems made sense, stable systems. Where you don’t have bubbles that are going to burst or you’re gonna go bankrupt. He said he didn’t think the people had to elbow their way to the top, to fight, struggle with each other to get the resources. That if we could just live in a stable world where we didn’t continue to grow, and weren’t based on this grow, grow, grow thing. That we could work on the Art of Living, and we could become better human beings for it. And these are some of the things that Donella Meadows says in the end of the Limits to Growth. . . . . So, this is the end. In the 1960s when I started studying ecology, there was a lot of sand in the top of the hourglass. But in my short stint of 40, 45 years as an ecologist. Most of that sand has run out. There’s not much time left to get on an airplane, go to Madagascar, and study something while you still can. Thank you. [Applause.] SET TWO: From the Question Session AUDIENCE: ...nonproliferation, but after your talk I [assess] these things in a whole different light now. [Laughter.] PIANKA: You know the bird flu’s good, too. [Laughter.] QUESTION: … Do you have any hope for these so-called voluntary ... Are you involved in trying to design . . . PIANKA: Actually, I really hope we do. I think we ought to get to Mars while we still can. Some of you brave pioneering souls should be on a one-way spaceship to Mars. You’ll have to build yourself a greenhouse to grow your own food [laughter] a hundred degrees, whatever it takes. I think we should take the Library of Congress up with us on DVDs and so when we wink out in this little sphere, there will be a little bit of a record of what happened on Earth somewhere else. And I think on that new planet, the books kids read in kindergarten will say “The Rape of the Earth, Let’s treat our planet a little better.” But I don’t think we can [unintelligible]. QUESTIONER: I don’t think that we as an audience accurately represent society at large. [Laughter] What kind of reception have you received as you have presented these ideas to other audiences that are not representative of us? PIANKA: I speak to the converted! [Considerable laughter.] [We’re not going to be all in agreement.] I know that. But we have to speak to the people that aren’t. That’s our -- a real challenge. And convincing ‘em when the government’s telling ‘em to keep their head buried in the sand and pretend everything’s OK isn’t going to be easy. The government’s just lying to ‘em, and they’re accepting it. QUESTIONER: I had a similar point. What can we do to correct this problem? It's, it all has to come from policy level because of the way human society is structured when the governments represent people. PIANKA: Politicians can’t win elections with views like this. I could never run for office. [Laughter] [Unintelligible] [Laughter] They have to present good news to win, and they deceive themselves and deceive the public in every way they can to stay in power. Even Al Gore, who wrote the environment book, never faced overpopulation. No politician ever has. The reason China was able to turn the corner and is gonna become the new super power in the world is because they’ve got a police state and they can force people to stop reproducing. That’s the only reason they were able to turn the corner. QUESTIONER: [Unintelligible.] PIANKA: . . . Well, there’s cheating going on. You can pay in China and have more. I know all that. But there’s a solution that’s theoretically possible. I call it the Johnny Anti-Appleseed Solution. Instead of being cursed with our fertility, I would bless us with infertility. Now this could happen because male sperm counts are falling because of plastics and the estrogen mimics [unintelligible] naturally. But I asked a reproductive physiologist years ago about this. I said, “Could you design a molecule that you could administer once that would bind to the DNA to turn off reproduction and make people sterile?” And he said, yes, theoretically. And I said, well, if you did that could you design an antidote that would unmask it just briefly for as few seconds? And he said, yes, probably. So this is what we need. We need to sterilize everybody on the Earth [laughter] and make the antidote freely available to anybody who’s willing to work for it. Immediately you'd get responsible parenthood. No more juvenile delinquents, unwanted kids. You have a kid, you had to work, and you had only a few seconds to do it in. [Extended laughter] . . . . QUESTIONER: People who are educated seem to have less children. PIANKA: Right. Right. Definitely, smarter people have fewer kids. I think Garrett Hardin pointed this out. He said those who don’t have any conscience about the Earth are going to inherit the Earth, because those who cared made fewer babies and those who didn’t care made more babies. And so we’re going to evolve into uncaring people. And I think that’s probably happening. I think IQs are falling for the same reason, too. MODERATOR: I think I’m gonna [unintelligible] on that. If you would like to talk to Dr. Pianka afterwards [unintelligible]. [Prolonged standing ovation] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36911433 Ireland 03/26/2013 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The missing Virus is from the same College where the professor that wants to end 90 percent of population FBI Gets Case of Missing Virus at Texas Biolab+ Quoting: Goofy for God [link to abcnews.go.com] The last time the vial was used was November 2012, University of Texas Medical Branch spokesman Raul Reyes told ABCNews.com. The University of Texas Medical Branch owns the $174 million biolab, which was designed with the strictest security measures to hold the deadliest viruses in the country. I wonder who used it and why??? |
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ladyannie2009 User ID: 35568680 United States 03/26/2013 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The missing Virus is from the same College where the professor that wants to end 90 percent of population Only 8.2 percent of the people in the world have O negative blood type Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12052772 only 1% has AB- tho 6% have A- 2% have B- 15% have a - bloodtype Everone can use O- blood But AB- blood can only be used on AB- people I guess AB blood is the most deluded while O- is the purest? just some more background info :) very bizarre when you take ^^that^^ information and connect it to the ancestory of the royal family. <snip> 1. Australian (Aboriginal): low B or none, low M, no A2 2. American (Indian): low B or none, low N, no A2 3. Asian: High B, high Rhz, no A2 4. African: High B, high Rho, some rh (negative), high A2 5. European: moderately high rh (negative), moderate B, moderate A2 6. Early European: very high rh (negative), no B [link to the-red-thread.net] <snip> RH negative blood group is from ANNUNAKI heritage Of the human blood types, O is the most common. It is a universal blood type. Blood types are further broken down into two groups, negative and positive. This is called the RH factor. The RH factor is the Rhesus (rhesus as in monkey) blood factor. If your blood tests positive for this, you have the factor in your blood. If you test negative, you do not have the factor in your blood. The RH factor is a protein found in the human blood that is directly linked to the Rhesus Monkey. [link to herebedragons.weebly.com] "the truth will stand up, when nothing else will" - annie's mom "When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no doubt. But that is not what great ships are built for." - Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estes |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16845676 United States 03/26/2013 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The missing Virus is from the same College where the professor that wants to end 90 percent of population Oh good, we can relax now. Thread: FBI knows EXACTLY Who did ANTHRAX Attacks 2001 ~ then DESTROYED... you make me |
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ladyannie2009 User ID: 35568680 United States 03/26/2013 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The missing Virus is from the same College where the professor that wants to end 90 percent of population after: Quoting: T-Man the walking dead - zombies revolution - no power falling skies - aliens id love to see a show about something like this thinning 90% of the world and its challanges. Thanks for rubbing my lamp. Here's your wish: hey i loved the stand! stephen king is like the best thing ever to bad noone really followed his and hicocks footsteps would be time for a good remake i mean i started watching that Bates Motel stuff. figured it would kinda suck probably. Now i cant wait for episode 3... you couldn't make this shit up....wow <snip> There is no set start date for The Stand, and Ben Affleck is not yet officially signed on. The Stand comes to theaters in 2013. [link to postapocalypticforum.com] "the truth will stand up, when nothing else will" - annie's mom "When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no doubt. But that is not what great ships are built for." - Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estes |
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sasas User ID: 23236244 Finland 03/26/2013 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The missing Virus is from the same College where the professor that wants to end 90 percent of population FBI Gets Case of Missing Virus at Texas Biolab+ Quoting: Goofy for God [link to abcnews.go.com] The last time the vial was used was November 2012, University of Texas Medical Branch spokesman Raul Reyes told ABCNews.com. The University of Texas Medical Branch owns the $174 million biolab, which was designed with the strictest security measures to hold the deadliest viruses in the country. I wonder who used it and why??? Like Ebola, the missing Guanarito virus causes hemorrhagic fever, which involves "bleeding under the skin, in internal organs or from body orifices like the mouth, eyes, or ears," according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. |
ZEROeffect User ID: 33873516 Canada 03/26/2013 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The missing Virus is from the same College where the professor that wants to end 90 percent of population someone probably stole it (FBI) to sell to Iraq or some other country trying to kill it's own people! That way (USA) can go in and Help (kill) them all then, teach them about democracy(slavery)! Follow the money. Who would benefit from this? Who is talking about chemical weapons? One vial would still need a lab to produce more...so who has one they could keep secret? FBI! CIA! |
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T-Man Entitled title User ID: 29080459 Netherlands 03/26/2013 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The missing Virus is from the same College where the professor that wants to end 90 percent of population after: Quoting: T-Man the walking dead - zombies revolution - no power falling skies - aliens id love to see a show about something like this thinning 90% of the world and its challanges. Thanks for rubbing my lamp. Here's your wish: hey i loved the stand! stephen king is like the best thing ever to bad noone really followed his and hicocks footsteps would be time for a good remake i mean i started watching that Bates Motel stuff. figured it would kinda suck probably. Now i cant wait for episode 3... you couldn't make this shit up....wow <snip> There is no set start date for The Stand, and Ben Affleck is not yet officially signed on. The Stand comes to theaters in 2013. [link to postapocalypticforum.com] whoa. i ask. and i get. the secret?! lol :P anyways thats awesome kinda weird tho that its set to release this year. but they dont have a producer yet? and of all people they name ben affleck? the same guy that could face a death penalty in other countries cuz they say argo is a psyop? wich makes it sound like he was hired to do a movie for the gov as in propaganda? if that would indeed be the case. how cool/conspiracy-like would it be for that same man to now make a remake of the stand (in other thoughts, having him make a remake of the stand doesnt sound like a really good plan to me lol) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36309230 United Kingdom 03/26/2013 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The missing Virus is from the same College where the professor that wants to end 90 percent of population Please tell me this nut isnt the same person his head bull is called Lucifer and he's a loner...... [link to uts.cc.utexas.edu] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21057428 United States 03/26/2013 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The missing Virus is from the same College where the professor that wants to end 90 percent of population Could this be what Sara Menet saw in her vision of the end days? "The next thing I saw was people being sick and dying. I saw this particularly in four cities, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Salt Lake. The disease started by having white blisters, some the size of dimes appear on their hands, arms and face. This quickly developed into white puffy sores and blisters. They would stumble about and fall and then many died within a short time, maybe 24 hours. I also saw other people with blood coming from their nose, mouth, eyes and ears. It started like a flu virus and it spread very quickly, faster than the other white blister disease. The people who had this disease died even faster. This was more wide spread across the entire United States. There were hundreds of thousands of people stricken with these two diseases. I knew that the diseases, and there were several different kinds, but at first primarily these two, came from small containers that had been brought into the United States. These containers were like quart jars and I was impressed that the people carrying them would just drop them on the ground in large crowds of people and the people would become infected without realizing it." [link to www.pakalertpress.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27972246 United States 03/26/2013 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The missing Virus is from the same College where the professor that wants to end 90 percent of population This professor wants to weaponize it into an aerosal please read before you assume if this was stolen by the nutty professor he intends to aerosal a virus like the ebola virus into an aerosal form Quoting: KITKAT123 1 this is like the ebola virus 2 it can be used in aerosal form Just think... car sized quad copters buzzing 38 feet about every street in your little town of 10,000 formerly living souls.. the quad copters sparying bio-aerosals 38 feet about the street... a 1,000 of them quickly sweeping through every street of your town of 10,000... in less than an hour.. then off to be reloaded, refueld for the next town.... how long to take out 90% of rural peoples (rural sorta even includes town of 30 people to 10,000) in a very short time. Then comes the 1,000,000 12 feet diameter quadcopters swooping over cities of millions by the same sort of a attack.. Then when that is down, 20,000 nuclear warhead set off.. 2,000 hitting directly at 100 feet above the ground zero of the core of the reactor of every nuclear reactor on earth, online or offline.. the spent fuel rods cooling.. etc.. then come the robotic predators of quadrapeds and bipeds.. the hunters.. Okay.. who nedes natural diasters when you have this sort of desolation and destruction available .. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27972246 United States 03/26/2013 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The missing Virus is from the same College where the professor that wants to end 90 percent of population after: Quoting: T-Man the walking dead - zombies revolution - no power falling skies - aliens id love to see a show about something like this thinning 90% of the world and its challanges. Thanks for rubbing my lamp. Here's your wish: hey i loved the stand! stephen king is like the best thing ever to bad noone really followed his and hicocks footsteps would be time for a good remake i mean i started watching that Bates Motel stuff. figured it would kinda suck probably. Now i cant wait for episode 3... Read "The Drawing of the Three" of S. King's Tower series... |
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