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Actuaries' study predicts Obamacare to increase claims costs by 32 percent

 
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Actuaries' study predicts Obamacare to increase claims costs by 32 percent
One of the nation's premier experts in numbers has a tough diagnosis for President Barack Obama's health care law.

In a report that could prove a big political headache for the administration, the Society of Actuaries estimated Tuesday that insurers will have to pay out an average of 32 percent more for claims on individual health policies under the Affordable Care Act, a cost likely to be passed on to consumers.


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If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.

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Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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The cap Obamacare puts on healthcare profits that have provided billion dollar incomes to their CEO's will more than make up for this.
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high cost for a better health care ? no problem
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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.

[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to prophetofdoom.net]
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[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.

[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to prophetofdoom.net]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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high cost for a better health care ? no problem
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It's obvious you don't live in America, even if you didn't have the Indonesian flag.

Health care will be more expensive, yes, but it will also get worse.

That's the way things work here now.
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Unemployment is on the rise as well - living wage jobs are important. Obamacare is forcing many employers to only hire part time so as not to provide the every costly healthcare benefits.
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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.

[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to prophetofdoom.net]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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This is what happens when you stop corporate subsidize, they charge more, the corporation just charge more. But your taxes are going down more then the corporation are allowed to raise their rates, 20% max.
But they will be using the would be lower tax money to pay down the debt of the wars and bank ripoffs.
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Unemployment is on the rise as well - living wage jobs are important. Obamacare is forcing many employers to only hire part time so as not to provide the every costly healthcare benefits.
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no no, any health care cost just get written off their taxes. More cost more wright down.
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high cost for a better health care ? no problem
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What a foolish response. Who said anything about it being better?

It will, in FACT, be MUCH WORSE, according to the medical profession and hospitals and healthcare providers, and they are in a position to know.

Many doctors are already planning to move to other countries to get away from the Draconian regulations and government interference.

Small businesses will have to close their doors because they cannot afford the mandatory fees and increased costs for their employees coverage, so now instead of employed people with little health insurance you will have UNemployed people with "free" healthcare and foodstamps, great trade.

My health insurance is about $900 a month for myself and my husband. Now it will be closer to $1,200 a month, EVERY month. Great trade.

I repeat, your response is foolish.
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Healthcare is already a disaster. I saw a doctor recently and he was trying to kick me out from the get go. I was treated like a fast food customer.. The quicker they can get me out the door the more money they make per patient. He didn't even resolve my minor health issue. I'm going to leave so many scathing reviews that I want them to lose tons of customers over me.
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Obamacare is like saying "hey, since the government successfully runs the post office and the DMV, why not run healthcare too?"
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high cost for a better health care ? no problem
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What a foolish response. Who said anything about it being better?

It will, in FACT, be MUCH WORSE, according to the medical profession and hospitals and healthcare providers, and they are in a position to know.

Many doctors are already planning to move to other countries to get away from the Draconian regulations and government interference.

Small businesses will have to close their doors because they cannot afford the mandatory fees and increased costs for their employees coverage, so now instead of employed people with little health insurance you will have UNemployed people with "free" healthcare and foodstamps, great trade.

My health insurance is about $900 a month for myself and my husband. Now it will be closer to $1,200 a month, EVERY month. Great trade.

I repeat, your response is foolish.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28232375

Penny wise pound foolish. Your taxes will be going down $350.00 a month. That being the case.

Which would you wreath have, you're money go the government that to the insurance company or you pay directly to the insurance company?
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with obamacare you definitely get higher taxes. you might even get some healthcare.
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Better?? Doctors are quitting in droves
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high cost for a better health care ? no problem
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Better?? Doctors are quitting in droves
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the only reason any Doctor is quitting the fear of being discovered.
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It's not like your not getting something for your high rate.
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Do you think these liberal retards are going to care?
Hell no, they don't pay for shit.. they rely on rich, job creating conservatives to pay for it all.
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Do you think these liberal retards are going to care?
Hell no, they don't pay for shit.. they rely on rich, job creating conservatives to pay for it all.
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Fat rich conservatives don't pay anything, what they don't write down on their taxes they cheat from paying taxes on.
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Fat rich conservatives don't pay anything, what they don't write down on their taxes they cheat from paying taxes on.
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Really?
Reason #45492785 we should just pack these muther fuckers up, and send them to some communist shit hole since that's where they long to be.
I used to be anti-abortion, until I realized its a good thing. Conservatives don't abort their babies.
Abortion wipes out millions of potential welfare whores, crackheads, and liberals.
The AC quoted is reason #5340825726 we should have retroactive abortion.

Ah, what a lovely thought.. have a blessed day, bitch.
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That's the thing most liberals don't get. While some of these higher taxes may impact the wealthy, they usually more so impact the middle class, so it causes everyone "within the pull of gravity" to be concentrated around the same level.

Then they put in loopholes that allow the wealthy to dodge the tax, so again it puts the 99% around the same level and the 1% unscathed.

That's why I predict if there is a civil war, the wealthy will be first to go.
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high cost for a better health care ? no problem
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No you moron, my premiums have gone up and my coverage has gone down.

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That's the thing most liberals don't get. While some of these higher taxes may impact the wealthy, they usually more so impact the middle class, so it causes everyone "within the pull of gravity" to be concentrated around the same level.

Then they put in loopholes that allow the wealthy to dodge the tax, so again it puts the 99% around the same level and the 1% unscathed.

That's why I predict if there is a civil war, the wealthy will be first to go.
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If this was a good plan congress creatures would be clamoring for it, but all of the congress is exempt. why is that?
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high cost for a better health care ? no problem
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Better?? Doctors are quitting in droves
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the only reason any Doctor is quitting the fear of being discovered.
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36835315, this is the second post you made on this thread. In the first one, I thought you were typing too fast to proofread your post to ensure proper English. This post removes all doubt. Are you some 12 year old kid posting from your grandma's basement? You need to stop playing hookey and get back to school and learn some English grammar.
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Re: Actuaries' study predicts Obamacare to increase claims costs by 32 percent
That's the thing most liberals don't get. While some of these higher taxes may impact the wealthy, they usually more so impact the middle class, so it causes everyone "within the pull of gravity" to be concentrated around the same level.

Then they put in loopholes that allow the wealthy to dodge the tax, so again it puts the 99% around the same level and the 1% unscathed.

That's why I predict if there is a civil war, the wealthy will be first to go.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30668539


If this was a good plan congress creatures would be clamoring for it, but all of the congress is exempt. why is that?
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And the Muslims are exempt too. Don't forget the Muslims.
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This is what happens when you stop corporate subsidize, they charge more, the corporation just charge more. But your taxes are going down more then the corporation are allowed to raise their rates, 20% max.
But they will be using the would be lower tax money to pay down the debt of the wars and bank ripoffs.
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You have got to be a Obamabot paid shill
Everything you have said in this thread is false
Nobody's Taxes are going down. Everyone's Taxes are going up. There are over 20 new taxes and fees in obamacare EVERYONE is going to pay more either directly or indirectly.
Every cost associated with healthcare is going up
Quality of services are going to drop

Being a Obamabot makes you a despicable traitor to this country
Go away
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fake no dhimmi post, u should attack islam.

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