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***BREAKING***RED DAWN IS UPON US***

 
Lost N Dying World
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Have the North Koreans been watching Red Dawn? Is this how they will attack? Is this even a possibility in today's time?
Should we even be concerned by there constant threats?




Now I do believe of the true possibility of a EMP over the US and that alone would cause havoc.
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I mean how long can a country set idly by and not respond to the sanctions that are being slapped on it. You can read the hard to find news articles on how the people are starving to death.

I for one would fine starvation enough motivation enough for me to cause a reaction.
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 Quoting: Saratonin


That's it just a NO! Please elaborate.
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That's it just a NO! Please elaborate.
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First, the US military has been hardneing against EMPs since the 60's.
Second, North Korea does not have the equipment required to reach the United States.
Third, if they did, it would be sunk before it got close.
The list goes on, but North Korea does not have the resources to land large amounts of troops on American soil at this time.
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I wish.
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How many think that another Pearl Harbor could happen?

I think the only way that could repeat itself is if communications was wiped out!
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don't forget the other hollywood, govt made movie: Olympus Falls. programming for something.
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don't forget the other hollywood, govt made movie: Olympus Falls. programming for something.
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and Whitehouse down.
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How many think that another Pearl Harbor could happen?

I think the only way that could repeat itself is if communications was wiped out!
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dude, most of govt workers are under Chinese russian mob payroll -- think about it. going back to Clinton. zombies never cease to amaze me

america is being liquidated right now like any other corporation. minimal will be a Kosovo type chronic genocide. poverty, famine, ethnic cleansing. minimal.
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No
 Quoting: Saratonin


That's it just a NO! Please elaborate.
 Quoting: Lost N Dying World


First, the US military has been hardneing against EMPs since the 60's.
Second, North Korea does not have the equipment required to reach the United States.
Third, if they did, it would be sunk before it got close.
The list goes on, but North Korea does not have the resources to land large amounts of troops on American soil at this time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36250895




North Korea said it had ordered its rocket and long-range artillery units to be combat-ready.

Long-range artillery units and strategic rocket units, that will target all enemy objects in US invasionary bases on its mainland, Hawaii and Guam," said a statement from the North's military supreme command, carried on the state's KCNA news agency.

They do have the potential of reaching the mainland.

[link to www.guardian.co.uk]

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Now! Don't get me wrong here. I am not a supporter of North Korea attacking the US, but I also am a realist in the fact that one can only endure so much before they break and retaliate.
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A lot of experts think that NK can send a nuke across the ocean. I doubt it. If they could, it would be fairly simple to detonate in the upper atmosphere and knock out the western half of the country. Once the power grid is down, the Red Dawn scenario is just a walk in the park. They don't have the technology to do that to the whole country, so maybe we could mount a defense from the east. With our military spread out over the whole world, it might be difficult to defend our own shores. The patriotic citizens of the western US would be the primary defense. There are hundreds of millions of guns in the USA and most of them are west of the Mississippi. Millions of hunters could very easily become snipers. They wouldn't have to confront the invading army, they keep picking at the edges of the invading army. It would make us harder to conquer than Afghanistan.
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A lot of experts think that NK can send a nuke across the ocean. I doubt it. If they could, it would be fairly simple to detonate in the upper atmosphere and knock out the western half of the country. Once the power grid is down, the Red Dawn scenario is just a walk in the park. They don't have the technology to do that to the whole country, so maybe we could mount a defense from the east. With our military spread out over the whole world, it might be difficult to defend our own shores. The patriotic citizens of the western US would be the primary defense. There are hundreds of millions of guns in the USA and most of them are west of the Mississippi. Millions of hunters could very easily become snipers. They wouldn't have to confront the invading army, they keep picking at the edges of the invading army. It would make us harder to conquer than Afghanistan.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


Is that why Obama wants to round up the guns or shut off the ammo? How many people have stockpiled ammo for their 30 06? Probably not everyone.
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A lot of experts think that NK can send a nuke across the ocean. I doubt it. If they could, it would be fairly simple to detonate in the upper atmosphere and knock out the western half of the country. Once the power grid is down, the Red Dawn scenario is just a walk in the park. They don't have the technology to do that to the whole country, so maybe we could mount a defense from the east. With our military spread out over the whole world, it might be difficult to defend our own shores. The patriotic citizens of the western US would be the primary defense. There are hundreds of millions of guns in the USA and most of them are west of the Mississippi. Millions of hunters could very easily become snipers. They wouldn't have to confront the invading army, they keep picking at the edges of the invading army. It would make us harder to conquer than Afghanistan.
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I would have to agree with you on this, it is a possibility
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If a Red Dawn scenario happens it will be the Coup de grâce, the Asians make plans that take decades to carry out. First they will immigrate to North America, quietly buy houses, key business (food, gas, ports, politicians, infrastructure, large tracks of land new military installations)

When they have enough power and numbers they will implement their culture and laws. A Red Dawn would be a plan b.

We have entire cities in Canada that all you see is Chinese signs on businesses, and a defacto use of their rules and laws.

Welcome to Red Canada, the true take over is far more insidious than Red Dawn. At least in a Red Dawn scenario people would wake up.

As it is keep buying our cheap crap, shopping at our businesses and watch football for a little while longer, we will be along shortly.
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"I meant near military installations"
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A lot of experts think that NK can send a nuke across the ocean. I doubt it. If they could, it would be fairly simple to detonate in the upper atmosphere and knock out the western half of the country. Once the power grid is down, the Red Dawn scenario is just a walk in the park. They don't have the technology to do that to the whole country, so maybe we could mount a defense from the east. With our military spread out over the whole world, it might be difficult to defend our own shores. The patriotic citizens of the western US would be the primary defense. There are hundreds of millions of guns in the USA and most of them are west of the Mississippi. Millions of hunters could very easily become snipers. They wouldn't have to confront the invading army, they keep picking at the edges of the invading army. It would make us harder to conquer than Afghanistan.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


Is that why Obama wants to round up the guns or shut off the ammo? How many people have stockpiled ammo for their 30 06? Probably not everyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10102363


This is true! Probably not everyone has. I don't say this lightly and am hesitant to say it at all, but I have a uncle scenario, who in reality is a very good friend of mine that is recently retired from a top security position with the military. He and I was talking and I asked the question about the large grabs of ammo DHS is making. His response...well it would need to be in a thread all itself.

So in saying all that I believe the reason for the gun grab and ammo situation is for a opposite reason than a attack from another country, (hint) but from within are own borders.
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 Quoting: Saratonin


That's it just a NO! Please elaborate.
 Quoting: Lost N Dying World


First, the US military has been hardneing against EMPs since the 60's.
Second, North Korea does not have the equipment required to reach the United States.
Third, if they did, it would be sunk before it got close.
The list goes on, but North Korea does not have the resources to land large amounts of troops on American soil at this time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36250895




North Korea said it had ordered its rocket and long-range artillery units to be combat-ready.

Long-range artillery units and strategic rocket units, that will target all enemy objects in US invasionary bases on its mainland, Hawaii and Guam," said a statement from the North's military supreme command, carried on the state's KCNA news agency.

They do have the potential of reaching the mainland.

 Quoting: Lost N Dying World


Hawaii is not the mainland. The movie you reference is about a ground invasion of the lower 48. North Korea doesn't have the capability to do it. China will some day, but they don't want to do it.
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If a Red Dawn scenario happens it will be the Coup de grâce, the Asians make plans that take decades to carry out. First they will immigrate to North America, quietly buy houses, key business (food, gas, ports, politicians, infrastructure, large tracks of land new military installations)

When they have enough power and numbers they will implement their culture and laws. A Red Dawn would be a plan b.

We have entire cities in Canada that all you see is Chinese signs on businesses, and a defacto use of their rules and laws.

Welcome to Red Canada, the true take over is far more insidious than Red Dawn. At least in a Red Dawn scenario people would wake up.

As it is keep buying our cheap crap, shopping at our businesses and watch football for a little while longer, we will be along shortly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12975310


I do think you might be onto something there. I for one believe that an attack can come from within are borders from the many so called plants that have been accumulating for years waiting to be activated, and I could be wrong, but what better way to gain intel than becoming one.
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That's it just a NO! Please elaborate.
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First, the US military has been hardneing against EMPs since the 60's.
Second, North Korea does not have the equipment required to reach the United States.
Third, if they did, it would be sunk before it got close.
The list goes on, but North Korea does not have the resources to land large amounts of troops on American soil at this time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36250895




North Korea said it had ordered its rocket and long-range artillery units to be combat-ready.

Long-range artillery units and strategic rocket units, that will target all enemy objects in US invasionary bases on its mainland, Hawaii and Guam," said a statement from the North's military supreme command, carried on the state's KCNA news agency.

They do have the potential of reaching the mainland.

 Quoting: Lost N Dying World


Hawaii is not the mainland. The movie you reference is about a ground invasion of the lower 48. North Korea doesn't have the capability to do it. China will some day, but they don't want to do it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36250895


This is True, but if you would have looked at the article it would have explained it in more detail.

US Bases...Hawaii, Guam, and US Mainland

[link to www.cbsnews.com]
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Had to change the link from Guardian...I didn't realize it was a conflict with GLP sorry!

Still you can see the point I am trying to make.
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Sure NK can do some local damage to SK. But not to the US. I mean the US alone has 4500 active tanks, and 4500 in storage.

And all the civies with there weapons. Maby smuggle a nuke via Mexico but that's even far fetched.
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First off, the idea for a sky full of troop planes, is preposterous. We have eyes on the world's strategic forces, and if anything was heading our-way, we'd know about it. There is no chance of the CONUS being 'invaded' unless we let it happen..

Simply put, China(who is heading ever more Blue-water) has the only navy even close to capable, of reaching our shores with a troop-mass. I think we'd notice.

**Although, it should be said: We(the US) have opened our shipping ports, with ZERO security&inspection(or even paperwork), to Chinese freighters on more than one occasion.
Like when we needed to move the remains of two fallen towers..

Short of a massive first strike against the US(wont happen. MAD), we're in the clear.

Even playing the Devil's Advocate~ 'IF' and invading force captured a large key port, and it's accompanying city&suburbs.. Inland based F-16's crater them, and if all else failed, we'd nuke it.

Under no circumstances, would we allow a foothold to be held.
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how is it people think NK is separate from China. have any of you spoken to a veteran from the Korean war. they were fighting Chinese, and an infinite supply line running from china. And google Bill clinton giving China ALL of US military secrets. EMP, Nukes, hydrogen, all of it. and computer viruses today can do what an EMP can essentially. zombies... more dangerous than the chinese for real.

America is being liquidated, you will wake up and one day be in a line begging for food as the youth will be in gangs shooting your ass like Kosovo. or invasion, America is not strong right now. military might comes from amassing large armies that are unified under political or religious belief. that does not exist in any way right now. small mercenary police groups are for zombie controls. google nazis taking gold teeth and anything of value from people in European ghettos, that is your future. rape too, murder.
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This is all very intriguing. If communications are taken out then what means do we have to communicate. To warn the people.
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And this time there's no fucking patrick swayze to lead the resistance.
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And this time there's no fucking patrick swayze to lead the resistance.
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So what are you trying to say. I thought he died in that one movie Ghost.
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I knew this was coming
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something is going to happen without a doubt
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I am a strong feeling we are going to see something take place amid all of the talk that is going on.





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