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Some here conveniently choose to ignore that Nazi Germany used flying saucers in WW2...
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Go.
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its actually a valid point.. maybe the nazi's got visited by ufo's and tried to copy the idea based on the evidence they gathered.
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Third-hand information ! Hearsay ! Nothing more, nothing less !
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Why u say that. It's on the web site of the fbi and seem a official document stating flying saucer and occupants.
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How to build a flying saucer
[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

First, it is recommended that a flying model be built and tested before proceeding further, as it would be very disappointing to build an elaborate saucer which doesn’t work. The fundamental principle is simple: to electromagnetically synthesize momentum, employing a high voltage D.C. brush discharge, in the direction of desired acceleration, to draw in and cause the exchange of ether carriers, which also brings in the tubes of electrical force, and to cause the tubes to dissolve in the conductors of the ship, which imparts momentum to the conductors, at 90 degrees to the electric current and magnetic inductance.



In order to facilitate the dissolution of the tubes of force, an alternating current of sufficiently high frequency is utilized on the opposite end of the ship, to compress and block the ether carriers and tubes of force, so that they cannot pass out the rear, and are thereby forced to dissolve to impart momentum in the opposite direction. The hull should be accelerated, creating electromagnetic momentum in the desired direction almost instantaneously.


A Tesla coil is used to create a negative D.C. brush discharge on one electrode, and another Tesla coil is used on the opposite electrode, to create an A.C. high frequency, which compresses the ether carriers and tubes of force, and blocks their passage. These two electrodes comprise a “p2”—two different primaries—one—the D.C. brush— which draws in the tubes of force, and the other—the A.C. current—which blocks the ether carriers and forces the tubes of force to dissolve.



The D.C. brush produces “negative (“hairy”) corona”, and the high frequency A.C. produces “positive (“cloudy”) corona”. It is believed that this system not only creates instant momentum in the direction of the D.C. brush, but eliminates the problem of inertia in the direction of the A.C. high frequency current, so that the rate of acceleration is virtually unlimited, and the destructive effect of acceleration is eliminated, since all parts of the ship and its contents accelerate at the same rate, without inertia.



This also applies to instant turns, in which the force of acceleration acts on all parts of the ship and its contents, to re-orient the force of momentum on each atom and molecule, in the new direction, eliminating centrifugal force. The kind of ship shown by these plans however, is of what I call the “linear type”, which turns in a curving path, rather than in sharp angles, because this type of ship is easier to construct and control.


In order to properly control the currents from the Tesla coils, specially designed switches, relays, capacitors, dielectrics, inductors and conductors are required. In these hypothetical plans, I provide my own design, which could conceivably be built by a skilled home craftsman. I also describe what I believe to be a control system which will be practical, reliable, and easy to construct, probably similar to what Tesla used on his “Flivver” machine, his manned, electro-propulsive ship of the earliest type.
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How to build a flying saucer
[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

First, it is recommended that a flying model be built and tested before proceeding further, as it would be very disappointing to build an elaborate saucer which doesn’t work. The fundamental principle is simple: to electromagnetically synthesize momentum, employing a high voltage D.C. brush discharge, in the direction of desired acceleration, to draw in and cause the exchange of ether carriers, which also brings in the tubes of electrical force, and to cause the tubes to dissolve in the conductors of the ship, which imparts momentum to the conductors, at 90 degrees to the electric current and magnetic inductance.



In order to facilitate the dissolution of the tubes of force, an alternating current of sufficiently high frequency is utilized on the opposite end of the ship, to compress and block the ether carriers and tubes of force, so that they cannot pass out the rear, and are thereby forced to dissolve to impart momentum in the opposite direction. The hull should be accelerated, creating electromagnetic momentum in the desired direction almost instantaneously.


A Tesla coil is used to create a negative D.C. brush discharge on one electrode, and another Tesla coil is used on the opposite electrode, to create an A.C. high frequency, which compresses the ether carriers and tubes of force, and blocks their passage. These two electrodes comprise a “p2”—two different primaries—one—the D.C. brush— which draws in the tubes of force, and the other—the A.C. current—which blocks the ether carriers and forces the tubes of force to dissolve.



The D.C. brush produces “negative (“hairy”) corona”, and the high frequency A.C. produces “positive (“cloudy”) corona”. It is believed that this system not only creates instant momentum in the direction of the D.C. brush, but eliminates the problem of inertia in the direction of the A.C. high frequency current, so that the rate of acceleration is virtually unlimited, and the destructive effect of acceleration is eliminated, since all parts of the ship and its contents accelerate at the same rate, without inertia.



This also applies to instant turns, in which the force of acceleration acts on all parts of the ship and its contents, to re-orient the force of momentum on each atom and molecule, in the new direction, eliminating centrifugal force. The kind of ship shown by these plans however, is of what I call the “linear type”, which turns in a curving path, rather than in sharp angles, because this type of ship is easier to construct and control.


In order to properly control the currents from the Tesla coils, specially designed switches, relays, capacitors, dielectrics, inductors and conductors are required. In these hypothetical plans, I provide my own design, which could conceivably be built by a skilled home craftsman. I also describe what I believe to be a control system which will be practical, reliable, and easy to construct, probably similar to what Tesla used on his “Flivver” machine, his manned, electro-propulsive ship of the earliest type.
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how is it so hard to understand that everyone here is open to the idea. they may not know that aliens exist but they are not so moronic to think that life doesn't exist else where and can't possibly visit us.. after all we exist, we can't be that unique given all the space there is.
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Re: FBI Vault 1950 UFO 3 Small human bodies...
Third-hand information ! Hearsay ! Nothing more, nothing less !
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Why u say that. It's on the web site of the fbi and seem a official document stating flying saucer and occupants.
 Quoting: Korats01


i think what they are saying is

1 we get it from the fbi

2 the fbi got it from Hottel

3 Hottel was informed of it
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Some here conveniently choose to ignore that Nazi Germany used flying saucers in WW2...
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But we flew to the moon to regather. We didn't crash them in New Mexico... tounge
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Re: FBI Vault 1950 UFO 3 Small human bodies...
Some here conveniently choose to ignore that Nazi Germany used flying saucers in WW2...
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But we flew to the moon to regather. We didn't crash them in New Mexico... tounge
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is there high powered microwaves on the moon?
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Re: FBI Vault 1950 UFO 3 Small human bodies...
Third-hand information ! Hearsay ! Nothing more, nothing less !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16074559


Why u say that. It's on the web site of the fbi and seem a official document stating flying saucer and occupants.
 Quoting: Korats01


i think what they are saying is

1 we get it from the fbi

2 the fbi got it from Hottel

3 Hottel was informed of it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36976869


Yah - so all in all still means nothing!

too bad. Was interesting.
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Re: FBI Vault 1950 UFO 3 Small human bodies...
Third-hand information ! Hearsay ! Nothing more, nothing less !
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Why u say that. It's on the web site of the fbi and seem a official document stating flying saucer and occupants.
 Quoting: Korats01


No, he's right.
It's a report from an agent (Hottle) about a story from an unnamed informant about an event.
 Quoting: The Comedian


exactly its not proof aliens or saucers exist

but its proof someone is willing to put their neck on the line to write this memo to the fbi, you wouldn't do that unless you were willing to risk the consequences.
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Re: FBI Vault 1950 UFO 3 Small human bodies...
Third-hand information ! Hearsay ! Nothing more, nothing less !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16074559


Why u say that. It's on the web site of the fbi and seem a official document stating flying saucer and occupants.
 Quoting: Korats01


i think what they are saying is

1 we get it from the fbi

2 the fbi got it from Hottel

3 Hottel was informed of it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36976869


Yah - so all in all still means nothing!

too bad. Was interesting.
 Quoting: Korats01


try to think a bit more.. it does not mean nothing. what it means is for you to figure it out and maybe read what others are posting here as they try to do the same.
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03/27/2013 01:35 PM
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HOLY SHIT! shits gonna hit the fan soon if they are releasing this info!
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Why u say that. It's on the web site of the fbi and seem a official document stating flying saucer and occupants.
 Quoting: Korats01


No, he's right.
It's a report from an agent (Hottle) about a story from an unnamed informant about an event.
 Quoting: The Comedian


exactly its not proof aliens or saucers exist

but its proof someone is willing to put their neck on the line to write this memo to the fbi, you wouldn't do that unless you were willing to risk the consequences.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36976869


Agreed.

:mccoy:
 Quoting: The Comedian


but if i was to just guess and for all intent and purpose be happy with a guess of no consequence knowing alone.. id say i believe its a true report.
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HOLY SHIT! shits gonna hit the fan soon if they are releasing this info!
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maybe it is. but here are the facts

it was put up on the fbi vault apr 2011

and the docuement itself has been available to the public since the 70's..
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HOLY SHIT! shits gonna hit the fan soon if they are releasing this info!
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maybe it is. but here are the facts

it was put up on the fbi vault apr 2011

and the docuement itself has been available to the public since the 70's..
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notice no "top secret"
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notice no "top secret"
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Are there any declassified files in that library with a "top secret" stamp?
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i think this is related

[link to vault.fbi.gov]
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notice no "top secret"
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Are there any declassified files in that library with a "top secret" stamp?
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good point
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Re: FBI Vault 1950 UFO 3 Small human bodies...
how is it so hard to understand that everyone here is open to the idea. they may not know that aliens exist but they are not so moronic to think that life doesn't exist else where and can't possibly visit us.. after all we exist, we can't be that unique given all the space there is.
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Sure, but that's not my point. What I assert is that flying saucers on Earth have NOTHING to do with aliens.
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Re: FBI Vault 1950 UFO 3 Small human bodies...
was mentionedn in another thread and fits here


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i think this is related

[link to vault.fbi.gov]
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as far as i understand this document is detailing the investigation into the person who gave information at the same time about a saucer crash in the same area changing their story and being investigated as a hoax...
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Re: FBI Vault 1950 UFO 3 Small human bodies...
how is it so hard to understand that everyone here is open to the idea. they may not know that aliens exist but they are not so moronic to think that life doesn't exist else where and can't possibly visit us.. after all we exist, we can't be that unique given all the space there is.
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Sure, but that's not my point. What I assert is that flying saucers on Earth have NOTHING to do with aliens.
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is that you'r mission?

simply to dissasociate aliens from the saucers?
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I see the shills are here in full force. Good work!!
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This is an informant talking to an SA, it is NOT disclosure.
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This is an informant talking to an SA, it is NOT disclosure.
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It's a federal offense to lie to the FBI. The feds are trained in detecting lies. Any detection of falsehoods would have been noted in the report.

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Re: FBI Vault 1950 UFO 3 Small human bodies...
how is it so hard to understand that everyone here is open to the idea. they may not know that aliens exist but they are not so moronic to think that life doesn't exist else where and can't possibly visit us.. after all we exist, we can't be that unique given all the space there is.
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Sure, but that's not my point. What I assert is that flying saucers on Earth have NOTHING to do with aliens.
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is that you'r mission?

simply to dissasociate aliens from the saucers?
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No, but the association is plain brainwashing, of which plenty of us have been victims. The flying saucers are man-made and secret projects.

You can find on the Internet, patents, schematics, videos and instruction manuals, made by enthusiasts. See for yourself!
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Is this disclosure?
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Re: FBI Vault 1950 UFO 3 Small human bodies...
how is it so hard to understand that everyone here is open to the idea. they may not know that aliens exist but they are not so moronic to think that life doesn't exist else where and can't possibly visit us.. after all we exist, we can't be that unique given all the space there is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36976869


Sure, but that's not my point. What I assert is that flying saucers on Earth have NOTHING to do with aliens.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36980878


is that you'r mission?

simply to dissasociate aliens from the saucers?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36976869

No, but the association is plain brainwashing, of which plenty of us have been victims. The flying saucers are man-made and secret projects.

You can find on the Internet, patents, schematics, videos and instruction manuals, made by enthusiasts. See for yourself!
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Tell that to the artists of the 16th century that painted saucer shaped ufo's in the background of religious paintings.
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This has been around for a while, but cool that's still in the FBI vault!

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When is the BIG announcement ??
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When is the BIG announcement ??
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