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Why do Jehovah's Witnesses continue to preach door to door and in other ways? And what do you think of them?

 
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who really is the faithul and discreet slave?

The one that sees that all religions ...they are all in darkness.

They DO NOT listen to hired men any longer. They follow Christ wherever he goes,even if it means laving all their family behind.

John 10

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.


Jhn 10:2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.


Jhn 10:3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.


Jhn 10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.


Jhn 10:5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.


Jhn 10:6 This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.


Jhn 10:7 ¶ Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.


Jhn 10:8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.


Jhn 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.


Jhn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly.


Jhn 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.


Jhn 10:12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.


Jhn 10:13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.


Jhn 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my [sheep], and am known of mine.


Jhn 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.


Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.


Jhn 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.


Jhn 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
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Faith to me is having left the sanctuaries of men and their theology, and to come out from among them that dance around a golden calf, by the making of their own hands, entrusting completely and without reserve to God within.

James 3:4

Look at the ships also, though they are so great and are driven by strong winds, are still directed by a very small rudder wherever the inclination of the pilot desires.
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Matthew 23:13 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


Why are you taking that out of context? And why do you lack the courage to address it to me personally? That referred to the self-righteous pharisees of Yeshua's day who didn't actually keep the law, only liked to be seen keeping it.

I suppose according to your twisted logic, the Messiah and all the Apostles were Pharisees for teaching the law and the covenant. Did you forget about these ones?

Matthew 7:21-23


21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’


1 John 2:4-6

King James Version (KJV)

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.



1 John 3:4

King James Version (KJV)

4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.


There is only one law and that is the law of Moses.

The usual drivel from the luke-warm rebellious, apostate, lawless, anti-Christ Laodecians.

I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Revelation 3:15-16
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37351209



as they are self righteous even now all the more so.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


No, I am Righteous because I keep and teach the Commands of the Father unlike some. You obviously are not born-again of the Spirit above because you are obviously not one of the Elect and are just among the majority of deceived for if you truly had the Spirit, you would not be stuck in Mystery Babylon, modern-day Christianity, a religion that Yeshua had no part in, it is fashioned after the words of the false Prophet Saul who never even met Yeshua. Repent or burn for the Kingdom of God is at hand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37351209


Hey, can you answer my question on Rev. 2 and 3 verses REv. 2:9 and Rev. 3:9...
Who are those that claim to be Jews but are not. Who are they?
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Matthew 23:13 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


Why are you taking that out of context? And why do you lack the courage to address it to me personally? That referred to the self-righteous pharisees of Yeshua's day who didn't actually keep the law, only liked to be seen keeping it.

I suppose according to your twisted logic, the Messiah and all the Apostles were Pharisees for teaching the law and the covenant. Did you forget about these ones?

Matthew 7:21-23


21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’


1 John 2:4-6

King James Version (KJV)

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.



1 John 3:4

King James Version (KJV)

4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.


There is only one law and that is the law of Moses.

The usual drivel from the luke-warm rebellious, apostate, lawless, anti-Christ Laodecians.

I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Revelation 3:15-16
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37351209



as they are self righteous even now all the more so.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


No, I am Righteous because I keep and teach the Commands of the Father unlike some. You obviously are not born-again of the Spirit above because you are obviously not one of the Elect and are just among the majority of deceived for if you truly had the Spirit, you would not be stuck in Mystery Babylon, modern-day Christianity, a religion that Yeshua had no part in, it is fashioned after the words of the false Prophet Saul who never even met Yeshua. Repent or burn for the Kingdom of God is at hand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37351209


what is you new name brother?
what does it mean to recieve the white stone?

What does it mean to hold the same cup Christ holds?
Faithful and Truth
Gabriel&Hope

Faith to me is having left the sanctuaries of men and their theology, and to come out from among them that dance around a golden calf, by the making of their own hands, entrusting completely and without reserve to God within.

James 3:4

Look at the ships also, though they are so great and are driven by strong winds, are still directed by a very small rudder wherever the inclination of the pilot desires.
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Re: Why do Jehovah's Witnesses continue to preach door to door and in other ways? And what do you think of them?
Matthew 23:13 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


Why are you taking that out of context? And why do you lack the courage to address it to me personally? That referred to the self-righteous pharisees of Yeshua's day who didn't actually keep the law, only liked to be seen keeping it.

I suppose according to your twisted logic, the Messiah and all the Apostles were Pharisees for teaching the law and the covenant. Did you forget about these ones?

Matthew 7:21-23


21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’


1 John 2:4-6

King James Version (KJV)

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.



1 John 3:4

King James Version (KJV)

4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.


There is only one law and that is the law of Moses.

The usual drivel from the luke-warm rebellious, apostate, lawless, anti-Christ Laodecians.

I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Revelation 3:15-16
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37351209



as they are self righteous even now all the more so.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


No, I am Righteous because I keep and teach the Commands of the Father unlike some. You obviously are not born-again of the Spirit above because you are obviously not one of the Elect and are just among the majority of deceived for if you truly had the Spirit, you would not be stuck in Mystery Babylon, modern-day Christianity, a religion that Yeshua had no part in, it is fashioned after the words of the false Prophet Saul who never even met Yeshua. Repent or burn for the Kingdom of God is at hand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37351209


the pharisees claimed they were righteous,and Christ said their sin remains. They Do Deeds To Be Noticed By Men.


"But they do their deeds to be noticed by men; for they broaden their phylacteries, and lengthen the tassels of their garments." (Matthew 23:5). Everything was done to attract the approval and attention of others. The approval God approves of are the lowly,the ones who took a back seat.
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Faith to me is having left the sanctuaries of men and their theology, and to come out from among them that dance around a golden calf, by the making of their own hands, entrusting completely and without reserve to God within.

James 3:4

Look at the ships also, though they are so great and are driven by strong winds, are still directed by a very small rudder wherever the inclination of the pilot desires.
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Then follow him wherever he goes,even if it is out into dark of everything you have ever known to be true. That is what true faith is. No need of men's teachings.

What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you cross land and sea to make one convert, and then you turn that person into twice the child of hell you yourselves are!
matt 23:15
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


The bible confirms itself. Did you know that ?

We are NOT to interpret the Word.

Go back to Mat. 23:2 and read it.

Who are those that took over the temple?

You better learn it. lol
 Quoting: Little Star


The temple is in you,not religion.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


Correct my beloved from the beginning.
 Quoting: Little Star


The temple, in Israels time, held the Ark of the Covenant. The Ark was housed in the Most Holy- a representation of where God resided, and was used to worship him. Only the High priest was allowed to enter the Most Holy section of the temple. When Jesus died, the curtain that separated the Holy from the Most Holy was torn in two, (not by a man) showing that the means of approaching God through that Old arrangement was over. The new kingdom was referred to as the "Kingdom of the heavens" with Jesus as the new high priest- or Mediator.

As far as interpretation, we have God’s own Word to guide us on this. “You know this first,” said the apostle Peter, “that no prophecy of Scripture springs from any private interpretation. For prophecy was at no time brought by man’s will, but men spoke from God as they were borne along by holy spirit.”—2 Peter 1:20, 21.
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Re: Why do Jehovah's Witnesses continue to preach door to door and in other ways? And what do you think of them?
who really is the faithul and discreet slave?

The one that sees that all religions ...they are all in darkness.

They DO NOT listen to hired men any longer. They follow Christ wherever he goes,even if it means laving all their family behind.

John 10

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.


Jhn 10:2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.


Jhn 10:3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.


Jhn 10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.


Jhn 10:5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.


Jhn 10:6 This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.


Jhn 10:7 ¶ Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.


Jhn 10:8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.


Jhn 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.


Jhn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly.


Jhn 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.


Jhn 10:12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.


Jhn 10:13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.


Jhn 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my [sheep], and am known of mine.


Jhn 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.


Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.


Jhn 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.


Jhn 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


"faithul and discreet slave"???

And your statement is very ironic,

"The one that sees that all religions ...they are all in darkness."
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...


Why are you taking that out of context? And why do you lack the courage to address it to me personally? That referred to the self-righteous pharisees of Yeshua's day who didn't actually keep the law, only liked to be seen keeping it.

I suppose according to your twisted logic, the Messiah and all the Apostles were Pharisees for teaching the law and the covenant. Did you forget about these ones?

Matthew 7:21-23


21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’


1 John 2:4-6

King James Version (KJV)

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.



1 John 3:4

King James Version (KJV)

4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.


There is only one law and that is the law of Moses.

The usual drivel from the luke-warm rebellious, apostate, lawless, anti-Christ Laodecians.

I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Revelation 3:15-16
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37351209



as they are self righteous even now all the more so.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


No, I am Righteous because I keep and teach the Commands of the Father unlike some. You obviously are not born-again of the Spirit above because you are obviously not one of the Elect and are just among the majority of deceived for if you truly had the Spirit, you would not be stuck in Mystery Babylon, modern-day Christianity, a religion that Yeshua had no part in, it is fashioned after the words of the false Prophet Saul who never even met Yeshua. Repent or burn for the Kingdom of God is at hand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37351209


what is you new name brother?
what does it mean to recieve the white stone?

What does it mean to hold the same cup Christ holds?
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


Sis, I can answer that for ya.
But first you must understand it is NOT our name that is the new name. Go read Rev. 2:17 again.
It is talking about the new name of Christ when He comes.
It is written. Did you receive it yet?

There are 3 verse's that confirm the new name of Christ when he comes.
Just like the formula of 2 Cor. 13:1 teaches, that is how the bible should be read and it confirms itself.
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who really is the faithul and discreet slave?

The one that sees that all religions ...they are all in darkness.

They DO NOT listen to hired men any longer. They follow Christ wherever he goes,even if it means laving all their family behind.

John 10

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.


Jhn 10:2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.


Jhn 10:3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.


Jhn 10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.


Jhn 10:5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.


Jhn 10:6 This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.


Jhn 10:7 ¶ Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.


Jhn 10:8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.


Jhn 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.


Jhn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly.


Jhn 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.


Jhn 10:12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.


Jhn 10:13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.


Jhn 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my [sheep], and am known of mine.


Jhn 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.


Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.


Jhn 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.


Jhn 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


"faithul and discreet slave"???

And your statement is very ironic,

"The one that sees that all religions ...they are all in darkness."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37351209


Jehovah's Witnesses call the annointed Governing Body that in Brooklyn.
Faithful and Truth
Gabriel&Hope

Faith to me is having left the sanctuaries of men and their theology, and to come out from among them that dance around a golden calf, by the making of their own hands, entrusting completely and without reserve to God within.

James 3:4

Look at the ships also, though they are so great and are driven by strong winds, are still directed by a very small rudder wherever the inclination of the pilot desires.
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The bible confirms itself. Did you know that ?

We are NOT to interpret the Word.

Go back to Mat. 23:2 and read it.

Who are those that took over the temple?

You better learn it. lol
 Quoting: Little Star


The temple is in you,not religion.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


Correct my beloved from the beginning.
 Quoting: Little Star


The temple, in Israels time, held the Ark of the Covenant. The Ark was housed in the Most Holy- a representation of where God resided, and was used to worship him. Only the High priest was allowed to enter the Most Holy section of the temple. When Jesus died, the curtain that separated the Holy from the Most Holy was torn in two, (not by a man) showing that the means of approaching God through that Old arrangement was over. The new kingdom was referred to as the "Kingdom of the heavens" with Jesus as the new high priest- or Mediator.

As far as interpretation, we have God’s own Word to guide us on this. “You know this first,” said the apostle Peter, “that no prophecy of Scripture springs from any private interpretation. For prophecy was at no time brought by man’s will, but men spoke from God as they were borne along by holy spirit.”—2 Peter 1:20, 21.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37423614


And what you posted is correct.
But what I was sharing is that many many churches teach that they can interpret the bible the way they want.
So yes 2 Peter 1:20, 21 is correct.
The bible confirms itself.
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Nice chatting with all of you.

I have to go for today.
I will book mark this thread at this point and come back asap.

Love you all
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Why are you taking that out of context? And why do you lack the courage to address it to me personally? That referred to the self-righteous pharisees of Yeshua's day who didn't actually keep the law, only liked to be seen keeping it.

I suppose according to your twisted logic, the Messiah and all the Apostles were Pharisees for teaching the law and the covenant. Did you forget about these ones?

Matthew 7:21-23


21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’


1 John 2:4-6

King James Version (KJV)

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.



1 John 3:4

King James Version (KJV)

4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.


There is only one law and that is the law of Moses.

The usual drivel from the luke-warm rebellious, apostate, lawless, anti-Christ Laodecians.

I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Revelation 3:15-16
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37351209



as they are self righteous even now all the more so.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


No, I am Righteous because I keep and teach the Commands of the Father unlike some. You obviously are not born-again of the Spirit above because you are obviously not one of the Elect and are just among the majority of deceived for if you truly had the Spirit, you would not be stuck in Mystery Babylon, modern-day Christianity, a religion that Yeshua had no part in, it is fashioned after the words of the false Prophet Saul who never even met Yeshua. Repent or burn for the Kingdom of God is at hand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37351209


Hey, can you answer my question on Rev. 2 and 3 verses REv. 2:9 and Rev. 3:9...
Who are those that claim to be Jews but are not. Who are they?
 Quoting: Little Star


They must have been early Christians claiming to be Jews,

Smyrna

Lying a little north of Ephesus, on a gulf of the same name. The original city was destroyed about b.c. 627, and was deserted and in ruins for four hundred years. Alexander the Great contemplated its restoration, and his design was carried out after his death. The new city was built a short distance south of the ancient one, and became the finest in Asia Minor, being known as the glory of Asia. It was one of the cities which claimed the honor of being Homer's birthplace. A splendid temple was erected by the Smyrnaeans to his memory, and a cave in the neighborhood of the city was shown where he was said to have composed his poems. Smyrna's fine harbor made it a commercial center; but it was also distinguished for its schools of rhetoric and philosophy. Polycarp was the first bishop of its church, which suffered much from persecution, and he was said to have suffered martyrdom in the stadium of the city, a.d. 166. It is argued with some plausibility that Polycarp was bishop of Smyrna at the time of the composition of Revelation, and was the person addressed here. This question, however, is bound up with that of the date of composition (see Trench, "Epistles to the Seven Churches"). The city was a seat of the worship of Cybele the Mother of the gods, and of Dionysus or Bacchus.
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as they are self righteous even now all the more so.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


No, I am Righteous because I keep and teach the Commands of the Father unlike some. You obviously are not born-again of the Spirit above because you are obviously not one of the Elect and are just among the majority of deceived for if you truly had the Spirit, you would not be stuck in Mystery Babylon, modern-day Christianity, a religion that Yeshua had no part in, it is fashioned after the words of the false Prophet Saul who never even met Yeshua. Repent or burn for the Kingdom of God is at hand.
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what is you new name brother?
what does it mean to recieve the white stone?

What does it mean to hold the same cup Christ holds?
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


Sis, I can answer that for ya.
But first you must understand it is NOT our name that is the new name. Go read Rev. 2:17 again.
It is talking about the new name of Christ when He comes.
It is written. Did you receive it yet?

There are 3 verse's that confirm the new name of Christ when he comes.
Just like the formula of 2 Cor. 13:1 teaches, that is how the bible should be read and it confirms itself.
 Quoting: Little Star


are you sure? because I recieved a new name and a white stone,and a cup to drink from.

The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.rev 3:12

He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, to him I will give some of the hidden manna, and I will give him a white stone, and a new name written on the stone which no one knows but he who receives it.'
rev 2:17

Jesus has asked the question, "Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with" -- Matthew 20:22

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Look at the ships also, though they are so great and are driven by strong winds, are still directed by a very small rudder wherever the inclination of the pilot desires.
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Why are you taking that out of context? And why do you lack the courage to address it to me personally? That referred to the self-righteous pharisees of Yeshua's day who didn't actually keep the law, only liked to be seen keeping it.

I suppose according to your twisted logic, the Messiah and all the Apostles were Pharisees for teaching the law and the covenant. Did you forget about these ones?

Matthew 7:21-23


21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’


1 John 2:4-6

King James Version (KJV)

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.



1 John 3:4

King James Version (KJV)

4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.


There is only one law and that is the law of Moses.

The usual drivel from the luke-warm rebellious, apostate, lawless, anti-Christ Laodecians.

I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Revelation 3:15-16
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as they are self righteous even now all the more so.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


No, I am Righteous because I keep and teach the Commands of the Father unlike some. You obviously are not born-again of the Spirit above because you are obviously not one of the Elect and are just among the majority of deceived for if you truly had the Spirit, you would not be stuck in Mystery Babylon, modern-day Christianity, a religion that Yeshua had no part in, it is fashioned after the words of the false Prophet Saul who never even met Yeshua. Repent or burn for the Kingdom of God is at hand.
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what is you new name brother?
what does it mean to recieve the white stone?

What does it mean to hold the same cup Christ holds?
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


I have not received them yet nor has anyone. Is the word of God not clear enough?

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it. Revelation 2:17

And surely you mean what does it mean to drink of the same cup that the Messiah drank from, which means martyrdom.
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you have to die a symbolic death to this world. To drink from his cup. That is what it means to be born again. to die,and come back to life.

you ever heard of a firstfruit?

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Look at the ships also, though they are so great and are driven by strong winds, are still directed by a very small rudder wherever the inclination of the pilot desires.
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There is no need to physically defend a system which Jesus is going to destroy. And why would I go to war with another nation where I could end up killing Christian brothers and sisters? Why would any Christian want to go to war with each other? They wouldn't. Especially not these man made wars where they are fighting out of greed and power.

And the holy land as you call it or the new system is not here yet. There will be no evil there as Jesus will have wiped it off the face of the earth.

There is one thing in defending yourself if someone personally comes up to you to hurt you(or someone else) and another thing to go and seek out someone who *might* hurt you and kill them.
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To back that up with scripture:
"Come you people, behold the activities of Jehovah,
How he has set astonishing events on the earth.
He is making wars to cease to the extremity of the earth.
The bow he breaks apart and does cut the spear in pieces;
The wagons he burns in the fire."-Psalms 46:8,9
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Sorry, in verse 8 it does not say Jehovah. YOU just changed the scripture to suit yourself, didn't you?

There is no letter "J" in Hebrew, in the old Hebrew and the NEW Hebrew language.
But I am sure you will say, well when we see the word LORD His name is Jehovah. NO IT IS NOT.
Book of Ester five times hidden in an acrostic reveals Gods real name which is written in the original writings.

Anyone with Dr. Bullingers bible can prove you wrong on the name of Jehovah. And anyone with a Bullingers bible can show you were the acrostics are in the bible.

Not making a big issue on the name of Jehovah, but I get quite irritated how JW say this and that and it is not true.
I had one at McDonalds tell me that the name Jehovah is perfectly written and is the name that you all go by and also because it is written 100 something times in the bible.
I forgot about the amount, not that important to me since I know the real name is given in those acrostics in the book of Ester. God knew Satan was going to even twist his name.
I just put that out because your church declares Jehovah is perfect name of God. And it is NOT. It is on your billboard or shingle on all of your kingdom halls.
Sorry just speaking truth.
 Quoting: Little Star

Jehovah was removed in 6972 places, so wherever you got the 100 times from is a mystery, and shows your lack of research. Jehovah's name has been restored in a newer translation (link at bottom). There are MANY names that start with "J" in the Old Testament, so your argument of not using the name Jehovah, because of it's containing a "J" is invalid. (Job, Jew, Joshua, Jezebel, Josiah, Jerusalem, Jebusite, Jehoiakim,etc. YHWH is readily accepted though, and it does not contain a "J", and it is accepted that Jehovah is the name we use in English.
Article on the Restoration of Jehovah to the KJ:
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Are you a JW? You like that new book. All of it, or only the portions you choose? Because if you're a JW and you like all of it, there's a problem comparing it to your NWT Bible.

All bible translations, including the Bible in the link you used, other than the Watchtower's New World Translation to date, accurately use the Greek word (pem'po) properly as "sends" rather than "lets ... go".

This is the rendering most Bibles use:

2 Thessalonians 2:11,12
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

The Watchtowers Bible, New World Translation says:
So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie,12in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness.


"pem'po," (a primary verb) means to dispatch, transmit, bestow or wield; SEND, thrust in. NOT "lets go".

In their rendering of this Greek text, The Watchtower's own New World Interlinear Translation clearly shows the Greek word in question (pem'po), should be rendered literally, as "sending." It's clearly a contradiction in their own publications when the Watchtower says:

"God DOES NOT DIRECTLY SEND this 'operation of error,' but lets it go to the deceived ones in order to prove that it is what they really want.(Compare Hebrews 4:12) In this way all honest-hearted persons can see that God is just in his judgment."
1975 Watchtower magazine, page 271, paragraph 4


It's obvious that God DOES SEND this "operation of error". It clearly makes a huge difference in this verse. Why has the Watchtower changed the meaning of this verse?

It's not something you need to answer to me, (as if you would anyway) but if you are truly seeking the truth, or think you have it, it's something you need to answer yourself so that you aren't operating under a delusion.
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Why are you taking that out of context? And why do you lack the courage to address it to me personally? That referred to the self-righteous pharisees of Yeshua's day who didn't actually keep the law, only liked to be seen keeping it.

I suppose according to your twisted logic, the Messiah and all the Apostles were Pharisees for teaching the law and the covenant. Did you forget about these ones?

Matthew 7:21-23


21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’


1 John 2:4-6

King James Version (KJV)

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.



1 John 3:4

King James Version (KJV)

4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.


There is only one law and that is the law of Moses.

The usual drivel from the luke-warm rebellious, apostate, lawless, anti-Christ Laodecians.

I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Revelation 3:15-16
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as they are self righteous even now all the more so.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


No, I am Righteous because I keep and teach the Commands of the Father unlike some. You obviously are not born-again of the Spirit above because you are obviously not one of the Elect and are just among the majority of deceived for if you truly had the Spirit, you would not be stuck in Mystery Babylon, modern-day Christianity, a religion that Yeshua had no part in, it is fashioned after the words of the false Prophet Saul who never even met Yeshua. Repent or burn for the Kingdom of God is at hand.
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the pharisees claimed they were righteous,and Christ said their sin remains. They Do Deeds To Be Noticed By Men.


"But they do their deeds to be noticed by men; for they broaden their phylacteries, and lengthen the tassels of their garments." (Matthew 23:5). Everything was done to attract the approval and attention of others. The approval God approves of are the lowly,the ones who took a back seat.
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Yes but like I said already, they only pretended to keep the law and only liked to be seen keeping it when I do keep it to the best of my ability and I certainly don't boast about it. The word of God says those who teach these things will be called greatest in the Kingdom of God yet according to you, it makes you a self-righteous pharisee. I think I will stick with what the word of God says,

Matthew 5:17-20

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17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

So according to you, Yeshua was also a self-righteous pharisee for saying this? Really? We all sin, only some of us repent of said sin. Why don't you repent of your sins like Yeshua told you to? Do you not know that is why his blood was spilt in the first place, so we would have a way to atone of our sins. Since the Temple was destroyed, there was no way to atone of sin but Yeshua became the lamb of God so that we could cover our sins with his blood. And you spurn that sacrifice by continuing to live in lawlessness and apostasy.
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Nice chatting with all of you.

I have to go for today.
I will book mark this thread at this point and come back asap.

Love you all
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Thanks for keeping it civil
hf
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I will not argue with people.I choose to come out of her,as I did. I am taught by Christ within.

Christ fulfilled the law. I am free In Christ.

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James 3:4

Look at the ships also, though they are so great and are driven by strong winds, are still directed by a very small rudder wherever the inclination of the pilot desires.
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jehvahs are a cult otherwise they wouldnt forbid their followers to talk to'outsiders'. these people are born sheep, they have the follow mentality and are learned not to think. its like a disease which inflicts their brain. god, jesus no suprise to see at which state humanity is in with all the stupidity. worst is, it is proven their cult is created by a mason but they still want to keep following it. most of them are good people though, i think.
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Yeah blame all the world problem on JW's. eve though there are NONE in Government ANYWHERE on the planet. BTW, you re listening to dis-info from someone, because you have your facts twisted about. Otherwise maybe you are good people....i think.
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Again, Jehovah's' Witnesses "speak to outsiders" as they carry out their public preaching work in over 230 lands.

Their children go to public schools, they live in neighborhood communities just like everyone else. They work for a living within their respective communities.

Their meetings and assemblies are open to the public.

When natural disasters strike, Jehovah's Witnesses are among the first to organize and come to the aid, not only for their fellow witnesses, but for anyone else they may be able to help

If the world is in its "bad state" because of that then...


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Can you prove what you just said, that the JW's are the FIRST or among the first to organize and come to the aid of other people?
Show me in the news that your statement is truth. Can ya?

Many churches say the same thing all the time. So who is telling the truth?
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you have to die a symbolic death to this world. To drink from his cup. That is what it means to be born again. to die,and come back to life.

you ever heard of a firstfruit?
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No, we will die a very literal death,

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Revelation 20:4

And no, to be born-again of the Spirit does not mean that, it means to be baptized with the Holy Spirit,

“There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again” (John 3:1-7).
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some die before a physical death,which is what you should be striving for. There are foolish virgins,who have to wait till a physical death before judgment.

as for me, i have already been judged.

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James 3:4

Look at the ships also, though they are so great and are driven by strong winds, are still directed by a very small rudder wherever the inclination of the pilot desires.
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Jehovah's Witnesses continue to preach door to door to tell people the good news of God's coming Kingdom.

It truly is that simple.

" And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come"- Matthew 24:14
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who really is the faithul and discreet slave?

The one that sees that all religions ...they are all in darkness.

They DO NOT listen to hired men any longer. They follow Christ wherever he goes,even if it means laving all their family behind.

John 10

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.


Jhn 10:2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.


Jhn 10:3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.


Jhn 10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.


Jhn 10:5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.


Jhn 10:6 This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.


Jhn 10:7 ¶ Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.


Jhn 10:8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.


Jhn 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.


Jhn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly.


Jhn 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.


Jhn 10:12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.


Jhn 10:13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.


Jhn 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my [sheep], and am known of mine.


Jhn 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.


Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.


Jhn 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.


Jhn 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
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This is my thread....not yours......but now that you have identified yourselfbyekitty
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You know this is how many many Christians operate. If they have someone that disagrees with them, they blast them, and on glp stop them from being on their thread. A true Christian does not have to do that nor worry about what people say. When a true Christian is sealed with the whole plan of God, what words or belief can stand against the truth of Gods plan?
I am NOT trying to insult you, but letting you know this is the method of many Christians and how they operate.
So, yes we all know it is your thread. Personally I am happy that you started this thread and that you are trying to answer questions.
But just think about it, if you keep someone from your thread, are you not really really following Gods plan that He wishes that ALL shall come to repentance?

There are so many beliefs in what the Word says it is not funny at all. And Christians judge each other on what they believe is truth.
I teach people how to read the Word for themselves. I said this before and NOT one responded to that posting.

I got a tid bit of response, but it too was bogus.
Peace ,
When people come at me hard, I love it. I let them be angry or upset, even the non-believers.
Why?

Because the Lord lets me help them get a handle on the Word. The harder they push, the more I get to teach.

And don't tell me that what I just said is not true. I will have someone who was an atheist playing into mystics who I watched get baptized and came to God because I stood my ground not pushing anyone away. And that happened to someone who does not even live near me and is hundreds of miles away.
While all of the Christians were fighting, I stood my course and kept teaching. And by that, the man and his wife were awoken and came to the Lord because I stayed faithful working in the field as the Lord tells us to do. The Lord does not say " OH push away who you wish, but just the opposite. " And I wish the Christians would do this. Yes the bible tells us to dust off our feet. But how quickly should we do that and what is the formula for dusting off out feet and moving on?
Many will say" well they don't believe just like we do in our church system."

LOVE should be upfront in all churches, but it is not.
Sorry , speaking truth.
Peace
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No one is being kept off this thread, though there is no need to continue a discussion with certain individual's. Even Jesus didn't feel a need to respond at all times.

What IS clear is that Jehovah's Witnesses preach in over 230 lands....the good news is available to ALL people

"This is fine and acceptable in the sight of our savior, God, whose will is that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth"- 1 Timothy 2:3,4
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Do you know how many churches play their game just like you did to us all.
You quoted 1 Tim. ... You did not quote the verse's, you presentation was as if YOUR JW"S system has the only accurate knowledge of truth.

Here let me test you and see if you can answer one simple question for you. The Word has the answer in the bible, so don't think I am going to deceive you.
Lets see if you have the accurate truthy... lo

Rev.chapter 2 and 3 both have info as to what my question will come from.

Rev. 2:9 who are those in that verse claiming to be Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan?

Rev. 3:9 Same question for that chapter, because both chapters and both verse's being presented to you are presenting something that only the end time "sealed" can answer which is in truth reveal in all bibles.
So again, the question is this.
Who are those claiming to be Jews and are not but are the synagogue of Satan?

And so you don't think that I will pick on JW's organization I will say, Sorry the JW organization does not even come close nor are qualified to be the "fake" imposters spoken of their in those two verse's.

Since you say you have the accurate knowledge of truth in your JW's as you presented to let us know that the JW 's are the only way to go with.
Tell me my answer if you please...

I know what you will do and say. You can count on being that right about what I am about to say.

You will avoid my question at all costs because you truly don't know the answer.
So if you don't know the answer, how can you claim to have the accurate truth?

Nice of me to make sure you will answer.lol
I do know the answer and it is written even in your JW's bible that you carry. lol
Peace
Oh, I will work you over in scripture, you can count on it.
And it is not a bad thing to do, but I do it in hopes that you will learn of this, and reveal it to others, if you dare.
lol
 Quoting: Little Star


You must not have read the post right, I quoted 1 Timothy 2:4


The chapter and the verses.....


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who really is the faithul and discreet slave?

The one that sees that all religions ...they are all in darkness.

They DO NOT listen to hired men any longer. They follow Christ wherever he goes,even if it means laving all their family behind.

John 10

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.


Jhn 10:2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.


Jhn 10:3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.


Jhn 10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.


Jhn 10:5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.


Jhn 10:6 This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.


Jhn 10:7 ¶ Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.


Jhn 10:8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.


Jhn 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.


Jhn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly.


Jhn 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.


Jhn 10:12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.


Jhn 10:13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.


Jhn 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my [sheep], and am known of mine.


Jhn 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.


Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.


Jhn 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.


Jhn 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


Doth thou talketh thith way alleth the timeth?
 Quoting: Beachbums


you know..I only quote scripture for those who will not believe unless they see it in the bible. I don't need the bible in everyday life. The truth is within.

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As Jesus said:..."....all the same, wisdom is proved righteous by it's works"-Matthew 11:19
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LOL

I like your style. LOL....

It is kinda like the last elder I keep mentioning. When he could not or did not know what I was sharing, I got a blank stare back at me.
Then when I walked him through scripture, his eyes got big and when I taught about how many Satan brings with him, he said "Untold numbers".
I laughed and walked him to the amount that I said "7000" and he gasped and when I told him about 2 Cor. 13:1 and that is how we are to interpret and to rightly divide the Word. I used that formula and proved what I said. We got a confirmation that day that not all JW's. truly understand the Word as well as they think.
And several of their traditions go against the Word itself. And I know by saying that , I will get blasted.

NOT one comment on what I posted, just one verse.
I can play that all day, I believe you are a woman, so I will say sis.
Like I said several times in my life, I know what was, what is, and what will be, not by my mind, not by my anything that is a human part of me. But by the Word of God who God gives the truth too because He can trust them to NOT to bow down to the systems of this world.
The systems that Satan controls are.
The political beast systems.
The educational beast systems.
The economical beast system.
And the worse,
The religious beast system.

I would like to point out the players who rule every nation by name, but the time is not right.

So, sis, you are talking to a true watchman.

Peace
 Quoting: Little Star


So. tell us all by scripture that the end of April, beginning of May is significant?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden

PS....
I will answer your question, but how about you answering some of mine? Play fair with me, will ya?
 Quoting: Little Star


you have jumped through so many subjects, its impossible to answer your questions, since nothing at all has made any sense so far.......
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Re: Why do Jehovah's Witnesses continue to preach door to door and in other ways? And what do you think of them?
I will not argue with people.I choose to come out of her,as I did. I am taught by Christ within.

Christ fulfilled the law. I am free In Christ.
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I am not arguing. I am simply rebuking your ignorance. You have not come out of her, you are still stuck in her covered in sin. Yes Christ fulfilled the law but you are ignorant to what that actually means. He annulled the judgements, (stonings etc)

So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. John 8:7

And tweaked a few existing Commands, some examples,

Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. Matthew 5:27-28

Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Matthew 5:21-22

"Christ fulfilled the law. I am free In Christ."

You have a license to sin now do you? That is what you are essentially saying is it not? Why did Yeshua say this then in the book of Revelation, AFTER he was crucified,

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Revelation 21:8

^^^^

All from the law of Moses, the holy torah. Looks like you have been deceived.
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who really is the faithul and discreet slave?

The one that sees that all religions ...they are all in darkness.

They DO NOT listen to hired men any longer. They follow Christ wherever he goes,even if it means laving all their family behind.

John 10

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.


Jhn 10:2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.


Jhn 10:3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.


Jhn 10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.


Jhn 10:5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.


Jhn 10:6 This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.


Jhn 10:7 ¶ Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.


Jhn 10:8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.


Jhn 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.


Jhn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly.


Jhn 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.


Jhn 10:12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.


Jhn 10:13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.


Jhn 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my [sheep], and am known of mine.


Jhn 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.


Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.


Jhn 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.


Jhn 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


Doth thou talketh thith way alleth the timeth?
 Quoting: Beachbums


you know..I only quote scripture for those who will not believe unless they see it in the bible. I don't need the bible in everyday life. The truth is within.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


no, please quote scripture, I just think that SOME people that constantly quote the OLD English King James Version come off as fanatical- nobody understands or speaks that way anymore

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Re: Why do Jehovah's Witnesses continue to preach door to door and in other ways? And what do you think of them?
some die before a physical death,which is what you should be striving for. There are foolish virgins,who have to wait till a physical death before judgment.

as for me, i have already been judged.
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Yes but the Great Tribulation has already begun and soon cataclysmic judgment and martyrdom will be here. And no, you have not been judged for you have not died yet. Judged by God, that is.
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Then follow him wherever he goes,even if it is out into dark of everything you have ever known to be true. That is what true faith is. No need of men's teachings.

What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you cross land and sea to make one convert, and then you turn that person into twice the child of hell you yourselves are!
matt 23:15
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


The bible confirms itself. Did you know that ?

We are NOT to interpret the Word.

Go back to Mat. 23:2 and read it.

Who are those that took over the temple?

You better learn it. lol
 Quoting: Little Star


Mat 23:2 The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
Mat 23:3 All therefore whatever they bid you observe, [that] observe and do; but do not after their works: for they say, and do not.

JW's do the same thing,Lording it over others.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


Obeying Jesus command to preach is hardly "lording it over others"

"This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth, for a witness to all the nations and then the end will come"-Matthew 24:14


We willingly preach the good news, if people don't want to listen, that is their choice..

no one can force to make a convert, Jesus never said to make converts. One serves God from their hearts, not because someone forced them

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