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Why do Jehovah's Witnesses continue to preach door to door and in other ways? And what do you think of them?

 
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" And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come"- Matthew 24:14
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Do they teach that jesus is god? If not they are anti-christ who deny the father and son.
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The Trinity doctrine is wrong. It is a pagan belief that Constantine incorporated into Christianity thus polluting true Christianity. That is historical.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA, yea thats why John 1:1 - IN THE ORIGINAL GREEK says that the word IS GOD... dumbass...
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they are following Gods command to wittness to all the world
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Does not mean they are right.

They are a cult whos leader was a mason and whos governing body are all masons.

They are packed to the rafters with pedophiles as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17767629


it seems they would get more done as far as witnessing and spreading the word on the internet. I grew up a JW. and I always thought to myself,that they are wasting time driving around to empty houses all day long witnessing to the dogs at home.

Most people don't even answer the door. Gas is expensive these days. They make little old ladies in their 70's and up feel quilty they don't get many hours out in service to report.

My mother thinks these workls will get her into paradise,and it has heaped a huge burden on her. She has to make the meetings,or they show up at her home and tell her she is missing too many meetings,and will lose out on life.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


From what I see they do witness on the internet like OP and DGN. They also do letter writing and calling people on telephones. Let's see, they also do what they call informal witnessing where they speak to people when they are out and about. There is also street witnessing in cities. Going door to door is only a part of their preaching work.
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They are really harmless.

Just tell them to get off your property tell them God told you so.
 Quoting: Astral Goat


This was Jesus instructions when people don't want to listen:

"11 “Into whatever city or village YOU enter, search out who in it is deserving, and stay there until YOU leave. 12 When YOU are entering into the house, greet the household; 13 and if the house is deserving, let the peace YOU wish it come upon it; but if it is not deserving, let the peace from YOU return upon YOU. 14 Wherever anyone does not take YOU in or listen to YOUR words, on going out of that house or that city shake the dust off YOUR feet. "- Matthew 10:11-14
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


I love debating JW's.
When the first two arrive, they can't answer my bible questions.
Then when they go get a higher JW after several times at my house unable to answer my bible questions.
Then I get a elder who I get to talk to directly and I start speaking Hebrew to them and open up on them, I love the perplexity of their faces.

When I ask them for an example, How come you think you are the only chosen of God, when in the book of Rev. chapter 2 and 3 Christ found no fault with two of those 7 churches mentioned in those two chapters.
Duh? I get.. lol

Then I open up on them what the Word says and I love to watch their faces again.
Sorry, if you be JW, don't get upset with me.
Just telling it like it is.. or was what ever the way you want to look at it.

My brother had them at his house about a month ago. They were there every Wed. for two months.
My brother invited me to one of their chats, because my brother did not know the Word as well as I do.
They did not like me much because when they presented their paper work they brought with them from the last meeting with my brother. I proved them wrong. They did not like that and the oldest elder got upset and started yelling.
When she relaxed from her emotional explosion I said, only Jesus sets the path to the Kingdom of God.
Arch angel Michael has no say so in that path.
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The sorry bastards only show at my door one time.

My sister got involved with that cult and died because of it.

She refused a blood transfusion that would have saved her life.

It is a cult of fools that needs to be outlawed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23393274


We all make personal choices when medicine is involved

Not a new concept


She had a conviction...good for her....
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Hey dumbass, a transfusion is not EATING blood.

Also, if the end is right around the corner, why are they building a 300 million+ compund in upper NY?? Why did the Canadian branch have a 1.2 billion dollar gross for last year - does god need that much money? You know how they started right? You know 1914 was bullshit and added after the fact by Rutherford? You know they have changed repeatedly their idea of the generation and the Faithful and Descrete Slave class is, right? I could tell you some of the most vial shit these people do, but I doubt you would believe...
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so, Einstein, if the doctor told you not to "EAT" or "Drink" alchohol, would you "transfuse" it relyng on the technicality of the word "eat"? Stay with your midevil religions that refuse to change ANYTHING, no matter how they conflict with the Bible.
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i was sexually molested by a ministeriel servant in Tx congregation

JWs can fuck off
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nothing like a religion that requires you to be an annoying prick.
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Yeah....Jesus annoyed people too...........
 Quoting: Anonymous_Hero


True.

But HE was not a PRICK..OR a child molestor OR a cultist.
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What is your definition of cult?
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My definition of a cult is someone or some church that wants to do your thinking for you.
Quite clear.
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They give me a great reason to wear my birthday suit to the front door.
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They are really harmless.

Just tell them to get off your property tell them God told you so.
 Quoting: Astral Goat


This was Jesus instructions when people don't want to listen:

"11 “Into whatever city or village YOU enter, search out who in it is deserving, and stay there until YOU leave. 12 When YOU are entering into the house, greet the household; 13 and if the house is deserving, let the peace YOU wish it come upon it; but if it is not deserving, let the peace from YOU return upon YOU. 14 Wherever anyone does not take YOU in or listen to YOUR words, on going out of that house or that city shake the dust off YOUR feet. "- Matthew 10:11-14
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


I love debating JW's.
When the first two arrive, they can't answer my bible questions.
Then when they go get a higher JW after several times at my house unable to answer my bible questions.
Then I get a elder who I get to talk to directly and I start speaking Hebrew to them and open up on them, I love the perplexity of their faces.

When I ask them for an example, How come you think you are the only chosen of God, when in the book of Rev. chapter 2 and 3 Christ found no fault with two of those 7 churches mentioned in those two chapters.
Duh? I get.. lol

Then I open up on them what the Word says and I love to watch their faces again.
Sorry, if you be JW, don't get upset with me.
Just telling it like it is.. or was what ever the way you want to look at it.

My brother had them at his house about a month ago. They were there every Wed. for two months.
My brother invited me to one of their chats, because my brother did not know the Word as well as I do.
They did not like me much because when they presented their paper work they brought with them from the last meeting with my brother. I proved them wrong. They did not like that and the oldest elder got upset and started yelling.
When she relaxed from her emotional explosion I said, only Jesus sets the path to the Kingdom of God.
Arch angel Michael has no say so in that path.
 Quoting: Little Star


JW's don't have female "Elders"- nice try....
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they are following Gods command to wittness to all the world
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2760294


Does not mean they are right.

They are a cult whos leader was a mason and whos governing body are all masons.

They are packed to the rafters with pedophiles as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17767629


it seems they would get more done as far as witnessing and spreading the word on the internet. I grew up a JW. and I always thought to myself,that they are wasting time driving around to empty houses all day long witnessing to the dogs at home.

Most people don't even answer the door. Gas is expensive these days. They make little old ladies in their 70's and up feel quilty they don't get many hours out in service to report.

My mother thinks these workls will get her into paradise,and it has heaped a huge burden on her. She has to make the meetings,or they show up at her home and tell her she is missing too many meetings,and will lose out on life.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


From what I see they do witness on the internet like OP and DGN. They also do letter writing and calling people on telephones. Let's see, they also do what they call informal witnessing where they speak to people when they are out and about. There is also street witnessing in cities. Going door to door is only a part of their preaching work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


that they have to count each month. If you get a few hours,I have heard talks that called that token service.
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Re: Why do Jehovah's Witnesses continue to preach door to door and in other ways? And what do you think of them?
The sorry bastards only show at my door one time.

My sister got involved with that cult and died because of it.

She refused a blood transfusion that would have saved her life.

It is a cult of fools that needs to be outlawed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23393274


We all make personal choices when medicine is involved

Not a new concept


She had a conviction...good for her....
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Hey dumbass, a transfusion is not EATING blood.

Also, if the end is right around the corner, why are they building a 300 million+ compund in upper NY?? Why did the Canadian branch have a 1.2 billion dollar gross for last year - does god need that much money? You know how they started right? You know 1914 was bullshit and added after the fact by Rutherford? You know they have changed repeatedly their idea of the generation and the Faithful and Descrete Slave class is, right? I could tell you some of the most vial shit these people do, but I doubt you would believe...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003364


The scripture in the Bible says to abstain or stay away from blood. That would be not using it in anyway especially internally. And I don't think they were transfusing in bible times but people were eating it. Blood is just not safe.

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Re: Why do Jehovah's Witnesses continue to preach door to door and in other ways? And what do you think of them?
The sorry bastards only show at my door one time.

My sister got involved with that cult and died because of it.

She refused a blood transfusion that would have saved her life.

It is a cult of fools that needs to be outlawed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23393274


We all make personal choices when medicine is involved

Not a new concept


She had a conviction...good for her....
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Hey dumbass, a transfusion is not EATING blood.

Also, if the end is right around the corner, why are they building a 300 million+ compund in upper NY?? Why did the Canadian branch have a 1.2 billion dollar gross for last year - does god need that much money? You know how they started right? You know 1914 was bullshit and added after the fact by Rutherford? You know they have changed repeatedly their idea of the generation and the Faithful and Descrete Slave class is, right? I could tell you some of the most vial shit these people do, but I doubt you would believe...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003364


so, Einstein, if the doctor told you not to "EAT" or "Drink" alchohol, would you "transfuse" it relyng on the technicality of the word "eat"? Stay with your midevil religions that refuse to change ANYTHING, no matter how they conflict with the Bible.
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If you EAT blood you digest it. If you transfuse it, it is an organ. For fucks sake are you that stupid? The text in Acts has to do with the gladitorial events and the drinking of blood to take on the spirit of your dead opponent. Learn history TARD...
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The sorry bastards only show at my door one time.

My sister got involved with that cult and died because of it.

She refused a blood transfusion that would have saved her life.

It is a cult of fools that needs to be outlawed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23393274


We all make personal choices when medicine is involved

Not a new concept


She had a conviction...good for her....
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


What foods do you eat?
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i was sexually molested by a ministeriel servant in Tx congregation

JWs can fuck off
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did the ministerial servant deny this?
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Does not mean they are right.

They are a cult whos leader was a mason and whos governing body are all masons.

They are packed to the rafters with pedophiles as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17767629


it seems they would get more done as far as witnessing and spreading the word on the internet. I grew up a JW. and I always thought to myself,that they are wasting time driving around to empty houses all day long witnessing to the dogs at home.

Most people don't even answer the door. Gas is expensive these days. They make little old ladies in their 70's and up feel quilty they don't get many hours out in service to report.

My mother thinks these workls will get her into paradise,and it has heaped a huge burden on her. She has to make the meetings,or they show up at her home and tell her she is missing too many meetings,and will lose out on life.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


From what I see they do witness on the internet like OP and DGN. They also do letter writing and calling people on telephones. Let's see, they also do what they call informal witnessing where they speak to people when they are out and about. There is also street witnessing in cities. Going door to door is only a part of their preaching work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


that they have to count each month. If you get a few hours,I have heard talks that called that token service.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth




They call it pioneering. Unfortunately, they are breaking the JW code from their HQ that forbids them to come on websites like this. Hypocrites....
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" And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come"- Matthew 24:14
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Do they teach that jesus is god? If not they are anti-christ who deny the father and son.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26244997


The Trinity doctrine is wrong. It is a pagan belief that Constantine incorporated into Christianity thus polluting true Christianity. That is historical.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA, yea thats why John 1:1 - IN THE ORIGINAL GREEK says that the word IS GOD... dumbass...
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Then why does Jesus call him Father? Or refer to himself as the son in every other verse.
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STAY OFF THE INTERNET!! REPORT THOSE WHO LOOK AT APOSTATE MATERIAL!

I remember these talks.
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" And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come"- Matthew 24:14
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Do they teach that jesus is god? If not they are anti-christ who deny the father and son.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26244997


The Trinity doctrine is wrong. It is a pagan belief that Constantine incorporated into Christianity thus polluting true Christianity. That is historical.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA, yea thats why John 1:1 - IN THE ORIGINAL GREEK says that the word IS GOD... dumbass...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003364


You rely, as do other Trinitarians on one verse? Read the whole book of John, it is clear that God is greater than the Christ. Further who was sacrificed on behalf of mankind? Was that person just part of a triune God? That would make Jesus sacrifice null, and a lie- exactly what Satan wants to promote. The Trinity- a belief that originated with ancient Babylon- a place that was the center of false religion in the Bible.
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i was sexually molested by a ministeriel servant in Tx congregation

JWs can fuck off
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did the ministerial servant deny this?
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


yes


his family were all elders

2 of em
his father and uncle
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they would say..the internet would be like eating off the table of demons.

And yet..Jesus ate with sinners.
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it seems they would get more done as far as witnessing and spreading the word on the internet. I grew up a JW. and I always thought to myself,that they are wasting time driving around to empty houses all day long witnessing to the dogs at home.

Most people don't even answer the door. Gas is expensive these days. They make little old ladies in their 70's and up feel quilty they don't get many hours out in service to report.

My mother thinks these workls will get her into paradise,and it has heaped a huge burden on her. She has to make the meetings,or they show up at her home and tell her she is missing too many meetings,and will lose out on life.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


From what I see they do witness on the internet like OP and DGN. They also do letter writing and calling people on telephones. Let's see, they also do what they call informal witnessing where they speak to people when they are out and about. There is also street witnessing in cities. Going door to door is only a part of their preaching work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


that they have to count each month. If you get a few hours,I have heard talks that called that token service.
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth




They call it pioneering. Unfortunately, they are breaking the JW code from their HQ that forbids them to come on websites like this. Hypocrites....
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That code doesn't exist. Grasping at straws, and spreading lies, coward
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They are really harmless.

Just tell them to get off your property tell them God told you so.
 Quoting: Astral Goat


This was Jesus instructions when people don't want to listen:

"11 “Into whatever city or village YOU enter, search out who in it is deserving, and stay there until YOU leave. 12 When YOU are entering into the house, greet the household; 13 and if the house is deserving, let the peace YOU wish it come upon it; but if it is not deserving, let the peace from YOU return upon YOU. 14 Wherever anyone does not take YOU in or listen to YOUR words, on going out of that house or that city shake the dust off YOUR feet. "- Matthew 10:11-14
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


I love debating JW's.
When the first two arrive, they can't answer my bible questions.
Then when they go get a higher JW after several times at my house unable to answer my bible questions.
Then I get a elder who I get to talk to directly and I start speaking Hebrew to them and open up on them, I love the perplexity of their faces.

When I ask them for an example, How come you think you are the only chosen of God, when in the book of Rev. chapter 2 and 3 Christ found no fault with two of those 7 churches mentioned in those two chapters.
Duh? I get.. lol

Then I open up on them what the Word says and I love to watch their faces again.
Sorry, if you be JW, don't get upset with me.
Just telling it like it is.. or was what ever the way you want to look at it.

My brother had them at his house about a month ago. They were there every Wed. for two months.
My brother invited me to one of their chats, because my brother did not know the Word as well as I do.
They did not like me much because when they presented their paper work they brought with them from the last meeting with my brother. I proved them wrong. They did not like that and the oldest elder got upset and started yelling.
When she relaxed from her emotional explosion I said, only Jesus sets the path to the Kingdom of God.
Arch angel Michael has no say so in that path.
 Quoting: Little Star


JW's don't have female "Elders"- nice try....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30260631


Sorry, you mis-understood dummy.
I said there was a woman there at first and went and got and elder, NICE TRY yourself. Re-read my words again, false accuser.

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I think they believe they are following God's command. I believe they need to read the bible other than the one they use which has altered some very fundamental truths. I believe they are mislead and will then mislead.
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i was sexually molested by a ministeriel servant in Tx congregation

JWs can fuck off
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did the ministerial servant deny this?
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth


yes


his family were all elders

2 of em
his father and uncle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36671025


same here. They always deny. my molester wen't on to raping two other little girls for years. Finally he got his ass handed to him,because all the victims got together.
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" And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come"- Matthew 24:14
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Do they teach that jesus is god? If not they are anti-christ who deny the father and son.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26244997


The Trinity doctrine is wrong. It is a pagan belief that Constantine incorporated into Christianity thus polluting true Christianity. That is historical.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA, yea thats why John 1:1 - IN THE ORIGINAL GREEK says that the word IS GOD... dumbass...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003364


No, the word was WITH God. God cannot be with Himself. Another of His Creations can be. And there is no mention of the holy spirit here. There is no trinity spoken of here at all. Just two. Also, the scripture says "in the beginning". There is no beginning for God. He has always been here and always will be here. But there was a beginning for Jesus.

Also, Jesus is never called Almighty God. Only Mighty God.

Isaiah 9:6
For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

It is simple. Jesus is God's son who died for us. God did not die nor will he ever.
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The sorry bastards only show at my door one time.

My sister got involved with that cult and died because of it.

She refused a blood transfusion that would have saved her life.

It is a cult of fools that needs to be outlawed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23393274


We all make personal choices when medicine is involved

Not a new concept


She had a conviction...good for her....
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Hey dumbass, a transfusion is not EATING blood.

Also, if the end is right around the corner, why are they building a 300 million+ compund in upper NY?? Why did the Canadian branch have a 1.2 billion dollar gross for last year - does god need that much money? You know how they started right? You know 1914 was bullshit and added after the fact by Rutherford? You know they have changed repeatedly their idea of the generation and the Faithful and Descrete Slave class is, right? I could tell you some of the most vial shit these people do, but I doubt you would believe...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003364


The scripture in the Bible says to abstain or stay away from blood. That would be not using it in anyway especially internally. And I don't think they were transfusing in bible times but people were eating it. Blood is just not safe.

[link to bible.cc]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123




Eat it!!!!!!!

The Council at Jerusalem
In order to understand how the Jehovah's Witnesses arrive at their conclusion regarding the acceptance or refusal of blood transfusions it is important understand the core biblical texts first. Those particular texts are Acts 15:20 and 29. "ut that we write to them that they abstain from things contaminated by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood" (v. 20). "[T]hat you abstain from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication; if you keep yourselves free from such things, you will do well. Farewell" (v. 29) [NASB].

The whole context encompassing verses 20 and 29 involves a challenge which began in Antioch, just after Paul and Barnabas had finished their first missionary tour of duty. Upon arriving at Antioch, which was the base of operations for Paul and Barnabas, they are confronted by some representatives of the heresy of the Pharisees.5 The heretic's contention is found in both verses 1 and 5, and which state that "Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved" (v. 1) and "It is necessary to circumcise them [Gentiles], and to direct them to observe the Law of Moses" (v. 5). In other words, some legalistic Jews who had become a part of the church ("the sect of the Pharisees who had believed") were insisting that all Gentile converts be circumcised according to the Law, otherwise those converts could not be genuinely saved. This raised the ire of both Paul and Barnabas (v. 2), which resulted in the gathering at Jerusalem of "the church and the apostles and the elders" (v. 4) to settle the issue.

There is no record of how long the proceedings took, nor of all those who contributed to the debate. What we do know is that there were many questions (pollh/j de. zhth,sewj genome,nhj), which probably took a fair amount of time to work through, coupled with testimony from Paul, Barnabas, and Simeon (vv. 12, 14), and then at least two declarations on the matter from Peter and James, the latter of which was the pastor of the church at Jerusalem. Peter's argument was that God had redeemed the Gentiles on the same basis of faith as that of the Jews. Therefore, he asks the heretical Pharisees, "Now therefore, why do you put God to the test by placing upon the neck of the disciples a yoke which neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear?" James concludes the council by issuing the final edict: "Therefore it is my judgment that we do not trouble those who are turning to God from among the Gentiles, but that we write to them that they abstain from thing contaminated by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood" (vv. 19-20). The church agreed with James' proclamation and then sat down to write a letter to the Gentiles in Antioch expressing the sentiments of what was determined. The concluding statement found in verse 29 repeats what has since been taken out of context by the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society to mean that a blood transfusion should be rejected. Yet, all the conclusion entailed was that all people, if they are to be saved, are saved by grace, through faith, and that all legalisms contribute nothing to a person's salvation. That for either conscience, moral, or sanitary sakes, the Gentiles should refrain from participating in those things that would preclude them from "doing well" in terms of walking the Christian life.6


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...but you will accept blood fractions? So if god tells you NOT to eat cake, it is acceptable to bypass the law and eat eggs, sugar, flour, etc. seperately? Yea...



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Re: Why do Jehovah's Witnesses continue to preach door to door and in other ways? And what do you think of them?
They are really harmless.

Just tell them to get off your property tell them God told you so.
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This was Jesus instructions when people don't want to listen:

"11 “Into whatever city or village YOU enter, search out who in it is deserving, and stay there until YOU leave. 12 When YOU are entering into the house, greet the household; 13 and if the house is deserving, let the peace YOU wish it come upon it; but if it is not deserving, let the peace from YOU return upon YOU. 14 Wherever anyone does not take YOU in or listen to YOUR words, on going out of that house or that city shake the dust off YOUR feet. "- Matthew 10:11-14
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I love debating JW's.
When the first two arrive, they can't answer my bible questions.
Then when they go get a higher JW after several times at my house unable to answer my bible questions.
Then I get a elder who I get to talk to directly and I start speaking Hebrew to them and open up on them, I love the perplexity of their faces.

When I ask them for an example, How come you think you are the only chosen of God, when in the book of Rev. chapter 2 and 3 Christ found no fault with two of those 7 churches mentioned in those two chapters.
Duh? I get.. lol

Then I open up on them what the Word says and I love to watch their faces again.
Sorry, if you be JW, don't get upset with me.
Just telling it like it is.. or was what ever the way you want to look at it.

My brother had them at his house about a month ago. They were there every Wed. for two months.
My brother invited me to one of their chats, because my brother did not know the Word as well as I do.
They did not like me much because when they presented their paper work they brought with them from the last meeting with my brother. I proved them wrong. They did not like that and the oldest elder got upset and started yelling.
When she relaxed from her emotional explosion I said, only Jesus sets the path to the Kingdom of God.
Arch angel Michael has no say so in that path.
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JW's don't have female "Elders"- nice try....
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true
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Do they teach that jesus is god? If not they are anti-christ who deny the father and son.
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The Trinity doctrine is wrong. It is a pagan belief that Constantine incorporated into Christianity thus polluting true Christianity. That is historical.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA, yea thats why John 1:1 - IN THE ORIGINAL GREEK says that the word IS GOD... dumbass...
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You rely, as do other Trinitarians on one verse? Read the whole book of John, it is clear that God is greater than the Christ. Further who was sacrificed on behalf of mankind? Was that person just part of a triune God? That would make Jesus sacrifice null, and a lie- exactly what Satan wants to promote. The Trinity- a belief that originated with ancient Babylon- a place that was the center of false religion in the Bible.
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The truth of the matter.
Read John 1:1, 1 Eph. John 1:1 and read REv. 2:17 and tell us all what the new name is that Christ will have when he comes?
The answer is in the book.
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Matthew 23:13 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.
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We all make personal choices when medicine is involved

Not a new concept


She had a conviction...good for her....
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Hey dumbass, a transfusion is not EATING blood.

Also, if the end is right around the corner, why are they building a 300 million+ compund in upper NY?? Why did the Canadian branch have a 1.2 billion dollar gross for last year - does god need that much money? You know how they started right? You know 1914 was bullshit and added after the fact by Rutherford? You know they have changed repeatedly their idea of the generation and the Faithful and Descrete Slave class is, right? I could tell you some of the most vial shit these people do, but I doubt you would believe...
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so, Einstein, if the doctor told you not to "EAT" or "Drink" alchohol, would you "transfuse" it relyng on the technicality of the word "eat"? Stay with your midevil religions that refuse to change ANYTHING, no matter how they conflict with the Bible.
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If you EAT blood you digest it. If you transfuse it, it is an organ. For fucks sake are you that stupid? The text in Acts has to do with the gladitorial events and the drinking of blood to take on the spirit of your dead opponent. Learn history TARD...
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If the bible says abstain it means to not use it in any way.
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Annoying people. I always wanted to find where they live and knock on there door and start preaching what I believe to them.
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