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Why do Jehovah's Witnesses continue to preach door to door and in other ways? And what do you think of them?

 
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They are the only ones you can trust in this 95% catholic country. Catholics are freaks.
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hmmmmmm.....curious the country
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You only get jeered at because you refuse to face the truth about all those past failures.

I remeber back in 1974 the big expectation of all JWs about 1975 being the YEAR..the big one.

Every week they would be around door to door telling us that 1975 was armageddon.

Had a stack of magazines from them stating it so.

1975 came and went.

The rapture tards do the same thing.

You guys are not the only ones to set date after date only to be wrong again and again.

I remeber THEM saying it would be 1982...then 1986..then 88..then 92..then 97..ect ect

They use the same system as you guys too. Picking out a verse here...a mathematical calculation there..then they run around selling millions of books and raking it in..again..only to be wrong..AGAIN.

So you wonder why people may laugh?

its not because you HAVE THE TRUTH..because if you DID..at least ONE of your prophecies would have come true by now.

NO..they laugh..because you CLAIM to have the truth only to be proven over and over that you have not the foggiest idea what you are talking about.

the world despises liars..especially those who make money from lies.

I admit the JWs are not as rabid when it comes to raking in the cash as the christian set..but still..its the same SHOW..the same deal..and the SAME fail.

THATS what people mock.

NOT your "TRUTH"..but your LACK OF IT.

If you call this an agenda...then by all means prove me wrong and discuss it like adults.

I WANT some amswers..and no one is willing to humble themselves enough to give them..which brings me to the conclusion that NO ONE HAS them TO give.

Either you OR the christians.

ALL of you..DONT KNOW ANYTHING.

All you know is what you are TOLD to know.

You hear ONLY what you want to hear..and then..know ONLY what you heard.

WHY???
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Guess that leaves you out huh?
Meanwhile;
"And it must occur in the final part of the days [that] the mountain of the house of Jehovah will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, and it will certainly be lifted up above the hills; and to it all the nations must stream. 3 And many peoples will certainly go and say: “Come, YOU people, and let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will instruct us about his ways, and we will walk in his paths.”....... And he will certainly render judgment among the nations and set matters straight respecting many peoples. And they will have to beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, neither will they learn war anymore." Isa2;2
 Quoting: DGN





Okay, do you really think your arguments about wrong dates come as a shocker to Jehovah's Witness's? We have heard the argument a million times. Since you pride yourself on your research of past comments from the Watchtower about wrong dates, perhaps you have over lover looked the following:

Watchtower- January 1, 2013

pg. 8


HAVE JEHOVAHS WITNESSE'S GIVEN INCORRECT DATES FOR THE END?

"Jehovah's Witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come. Like Jesus first century disciples, we have sometimes looked forward to the fulfillment of prophecy ahead of God's timetable. (Luke 19:11; Acts 1:6 @ Thessalonians 2:1,2) We agree with the sentiments of longtime Witness A. H. Macmillan, who said: "I learned that we should admit our mistakes and continue searching God's Word for more enlightenment".

Why, then do we continue to highlight the nearness of the end? Because we take seriously Jesus' words: "Keep looking, keep awake". The alternative, to be found "sleeping" by Jesus would prevent us from gaining his favor. (Mark 13:33, 36)Why?
Consider this example: A lookout in a fire tower might see what he thinks is a wisp of smoke on the horizon and sound what proves to be a false alarm. Later though, his alertness could save lives.
Likewise, we have had some wrong expectations about the end. But we are more concerned with obeying Jesus and saving lives than with avoiding criticism. Jesus command to "give a thorough witness" compels us to warn others about the end.-Acts 10:42
We believe that even more important than focusing on WHEN the end will come, we must be confident that it WILL come. We take seriously the words of Habakkuk 2: 3, "Even if the end should delay(compared to what you thought), keep in expectation of it; for it will without fail come true, it will not be late.


There...is THAT honest enough for you?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Yes. At least ya have one up on the rapture tards there.

They get proven wrong again and again and they curse you to hell when you point it out and they NEVER EVER admit they could have been wrong.

So ten points for at least being humble and honest enough NOT to have lowered yourselves to the dismal and pathetic "rapture tard" standard.
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And the 'you are going to a burning hell' lie. That really gets them mad when you point out the Bible doesn't teach a person gets burned alive in hell forever. It is a sadistic person that hopes one is tortured forever. Anyway, the dead are sleeping like Lazarus was so they aren't conscious of anything.
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quit being a hall monitor, such a thing is not "forbidden"
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Really? So you all would not mind having your local Elders and Circuit Overseer know you are posting here and what this site is?
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I wouldn't promote it, but I wouldn't deny it, and I have shown many Elders some of the stupidity, humor and solid news links I have seen here. It is not a big deal- does that shock you, hall montor?
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I respect everyone's free will. Just wondering what you were doing here. BTW - If you knew who I was you certainly would not call me hall monitor
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Well maybe you'll get promoted.
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Poor misguided Jehovah's Witnesses. You are in a cult created by Charles Taze Russell in the late 1800's.

The Watchtower is a multi-million dollar tax-free international corporation. Nearly every aspect of its members' lives are dictated by The Watchtower. It is a huge money-making venturing benefiting a few at the top.

Your belief system is dictated not by the Bible, but by a group of men, The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in New York. You are indoctrinated to believe in their interpretation of the Bible and are strongly warned not to draw your own conclusions. You could be labelled an apostate and face disfellowship.

You are not free to read from other religions and then reject those ideas, so your religion has taken away your ability to make an informed decision about your spirituality.

JWs are wolves in sheep's clothing. They come off as nice and caring because they are trying to sell a product, their religion. Deep down, they believe you are controlled by Satan unless you are a JW. A JW cannot truly be your friend if you not a JW. That would be a "bad association" for them and again, grounds for disfellowship.
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Poor misguided Jehovah's Witnesses. You are in a cult created by Charles Taze Russell in the late 1800's.

The Watchtower is a multi-million dollar tax-free international corporation. Nearly every aspect of its members' lives are dictated by The Watchtower. It is a huge money-making venturing benefiting a few at the top.

Your belief system is dictated not by the Bible, but by a group of men, The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in New York. You are indoctrinated to believe in their interpretation of the Bible and are strongly warned not to draw your own conclusions. You could be labelled an apostate and face disfellowship.

You are not free to read from other religions and then reject those ideas, so your religion has taken away your ability to make an informed decision about your spirituality.

JWs are wolves in sheep's clothing. They come off as nice and caring because they are trying to sell a product, their religion. Deep down, they believe you are controlled by Satan unless you are a JW. A JW cannot truly be your friend if you not a JW. That would be a "bad association" for them and again, grounds for disfellowship.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26194713


"My son, if you will receive my sayings and treasure up my own commandments with yourself, 2 so as to pay attention to wisdom with your ear, that you may incline your heart to discernment; 3 if, moreover, you call out for understanding itself and you give forth your voice for discernment itself, 4 if you keep seeking for it as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it, 5 in that case you will understand the fear of Jehovah, and you will find the very knowledge of God. 6 For Jehovah himself gives wisdom; out of his mouth there are knowledge and discernment. 7 And for the upright ones he will treasure up practical wisdom; for those walking in integrity he is a shield, 8 by observing the paths of judgment, and he will guard the very way of his loyal ones. 9 In that case you will understand righteousness and judgment and uprightness, the entire course of what is good.
10 When wisdom enters into your heart and knowledge itself becomes pleasant to your very soul, 11 thinking ability itself will keep guard over you, discernment itself will safeguard you, 12 to deliver you from the bad way, from the man speaking perverse things, 13 from those leaving the paths of uprightness to walk in the ways of darkness, 14 from those who are rejoicing in doing bad, who are joyful in the perverse things of badness;" Pr2;1
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" And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come"- Matthew 24:14
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


People here love doom, right?


Then this should get 5 stars! These people are fulfilling precursors to real doom!
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Yeah everytime they come visit I feel like I'm reading a GLP thread. DOOM DOOM SOON
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Poor misguided Jehovah's Witnesses. You are in a cult created by Charles Taze Russell in the late 1800's.

The Watchtower is a multi-million dollar tax-free international corporation. Nearly every aspect of its members' lives are dictated by The Watchtower. It is a huge money-making venturing benefiting a few at the top.

Your belief system is dictated not by the Bible, but by a group of men, The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in New York. You are indoctrinated to believe in their interpretation of the Bible and are strongly warned not to draw your own conclusions. You could be labelled an apostate and face disfellowship.

You are not free to read from other religions and then reject those ideas, so your religion has taken away your ability to make an informed decision about your spirituality.

JWs are wolves in sheep's clothing. They come off as nice and caring because they are trying to sell a product, their religion. Deep down, they believe you are controlled by Satan unless you are a JW. A JW cannot truly be your friend if you not a JW. That would be a "bad association" for them and again, grounds for disfellowship.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26194713


"My son, if you will receive my sayings and treasure up my own commandments with yourself, 2 so as to pay attention to wisdom with your ear, that you may incline your heart to discernment; 3 if, moreover, you call out for understanding itself and you give forth your voice for discernment itself, 4 if you keep seeking for it as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it, 5 in that case you will understand the fear of Jehovah, and you will find the very knowledge of God. 6 For Jehovah himself gives wisdom; out of his mouth there are knowledge and discernment. 7 And for the upright ones he will treasure up practical wisdom; for those walking in integrity he is a shield, 8 by observing the paths of judgment, and he will guard the very way of his loyal ones. 9 In that case you will understand righteousness and judgment and uprightness, the entire course of what is good.
10 When wisdom enters into your heart and knowledge itself becomes pleasant to your very soul, 11 thinking ability itself will keep guard over you, discernment itself will safeguard you, 12 to deliver you from the bad way, from the man speaking perverse things, 13 from those leaving the paths of uprightness to walk in the ways of darkness, 14 from those who are rejoicing in doing bad, who are joyful in the perverse things of badness;" Pr2;1
 Quoting: DGN



Jesus warned against false prophets (like JW).

"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"
Matthew 7:15-16

The "fruits" of the Watchtower cult, their prophecies, have repeatedly proven false. Their argument to this is that the truth is being continually revealed to them. But they are clearly being mislead by false prophets, who change their teachings at their own whims, not through any increased enlightenment.
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[link to silentlambs.org]
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They have a comeback for that,they say the Truth kepps getting brighter and brighter till firmly established. If it was given by the Spirit of Truth to begin with, then there would never be a need to revise and revise,because it was falsehood to begin with.

Look within your heart,ask Father, to teach you the truth. This is a test to see if you are putting Father first, or other gods,wolves in sheeps clothing. You have left your first love, and let man keep you in a prison, without even being aware.
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Poor misguided Jehovah's Witnesses. You are in a cult created by Charles Taze Russell in the late 1800's.

The Watchtower is a multi-million dollar tax-free international corporation. Nearly every aspect of its members' lives are dictated by The Watchtower. It is a huge money-making venturing benefiting a few at the top.

Your belief system is dictated not by the Bible, but by a group of men, The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in New York. You are indoctrinated to believe in their interpretation of the Bible and are strongly warned not to draw your own conclusions. You could be labelled an apostate and face disfellowship.

You are not free to read from other religions and then reject those ideas, so your religion has taken away your ability to make an informed decision about your spirituality.

JWs are wolves in sheep's clothing. They come off as nice and caring because they are trying to sell a product, their religion. Deep down, they believe you are controlled by Satan unless you are a JW. A JW cannot truly be your friend if you not a JW. That would be a "bad association" for them and again, grounds for disfellowship.
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yeah...truly wolves
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Poor misguided Jehovah's Witnesses. You are in a cult created by Charles Taze Russell in the late 1800's.

The Watchtower is a multi-million dollar tax-free international corporation. Nearly every aspect of its members' lives are dictated by The Watchtower. It is a huge money-making venturing benefiting a few at the top.

Your belief system is dictated not by the Bible, but by a group of men, The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in New York. You are indoctrinated to believe in their interpretation of the Bible and are strongly warned not to draw your own conclusions. You could be labelled an apostate and face disfellowship.

You are not free to read from other religions and then reject those ideas, so your religion has taken away your ability to make an informed decision about your spirituality.

JWs are wolves in sheep's clothing. They come off as nice and caring because they are trying to sell a product, their religion. Deep down, they believe you are controlled by Satan unless you are a JW. A JW cannot truly be your friend if you not a JW. That would be a "bad association" for them and again, grounds for disfellowship.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26194713


"My son, if you will receive my sayings and treasure up my own commandments with yourself, 2 so as to pay attention to wisdom with your ear, that you may incline your heart to discernment; 3 if, moreover, you call out for understanding itself and you give forth your voice for discernment itself, 4 if you keep seeking for it as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it, 5 in that case you will understand the fear of Jehovah, and you will find the very knowledge of God. 6 For Jehovah himself gives wisdom; out of his mouth there are knowledge and discernment. 7 And for the upright ones he will treasure up practical wisdom; for those walking in integrity he is a shield, 8 by observing the paths of judgment, and he will guard the very way of his loyal ones. 9 In that case you will understand righteousness and judgment and uprightness, the entire course of what is good.
10 When wisdom enters into your heart and knowledge itself becomes pleasant to your very soul, 11 thinking ability itself will keep guard over you, discernment itself will safeguard you, 12 to deliver you from the bad way, from the man speaking perverse things, 13 from those leaving the paths of uprightness to walk in the ways of darkness, 14 from those who are rejoicing in doing bad, who are joyful in the perverse things of badness;" Pr2;1
 Quoting: DGN



Jesus warned against false prophets (like JW).

"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"
Matthew 7:15-16

The "fruits" of the Watchtower cult, their prophecies, have repeatedly proven false. Their argument to this is that the truth is being continually revealed to them. But they are clearly being mislead by false prophets, who change their teachings at their own whims, not through any increased enlightenment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26194713


The reason JW's present no prophesies is because miraculous gifts expired 2,000 years ago with the apostles, and the complete writing of the bible. Everything regarding qualifying as a candidate for being the meek who inherit the earth is revealed in the bible. Efforts to figure out what prophesy means provides subject for meditation until they're fulfilled and everything is finally understood.
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They have a comeback for that,they say the Truth kepps getting brighter and brighter till firmly established. If it was given by the Spirit of Truth to begin with, then there would never be a need to revise and revise,because it was falsehood to begin with.

Look within your heart,ask Father, to teach you the truth. This is a test to see if you are putting Father first, or other gods,wolves in sheeps clothing. You have left your first love, and let man keep you in a prison, without even being aware.
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So.....what is YOUR truth that you want to share with us all?
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They have a comeback for that,they say the Truth kepps getting brighter and brighter till firmly established. If it was given by the Spirit of Truth to begin with, then there would never be a need to revise and revise,because it was falsehood to begin with.

Look within your heart,ask Father, to teach you the truth. This is a test to see if you are putting Father first, or other gods,wolves in sheeps clothing. You have left your first love, and let man keep you in a prison, without even being aware.
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So.....what is YOUR truth that you want to share with us all?
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Let's hear it all, we love those divinely blessed with instant enlightenment.

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you will never know true wisdom till you repent,and cry out to Father,and stop following earth gods. It is finished,and always has been.
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" And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come"- Matthew 24:14
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


People here love doom, right?


Then this should get 5 stars! These people are fulfilling precursors to real doom!
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Yeah everytime they come visit I feel like I'm reading a GLP thread. DOOM DOOM SOON
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You cant get a gloomier message than THIS:

"The righteous themselves will possess the earth and they will reside forever upon it"- Psalms 37:29



Gosh that is a dark message isn't it????

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GET OUT of her MY people. There is sin coverered over within,and the sword is coming to the leaders.
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" And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come"- Matthew 24:14
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


People here love doom, right?


Then this should get 5 stars! These people are fulfilling precursors to real doom!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23017670


Yeah everytime they come visit I feel like I'm reading a GLP thread. DOOM DOOM SOON
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36600744


You cant get a gloomier message than THIS:

"The righteous themselves will possess the earth and they will reside forever upon it"- Psalms 37:29



Gosh that is a dark message isn't it????

angryface
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


It gets worse lurch;
"And just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more;
And you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be.
11 But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,
And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace." Ps37:10
....bummer....
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Poor misguided Jehovah's Witnesses. You are in a cult created by Charles Taze Russell in the late 1800's.

The Watchtower is a multi-million dollar tax-free international corporation. Nearly every aspect of its members' lives are dictated by The Watchtower. It is a huge money-making venturing benefiting a few at the top.

Your belief system is dictated not by the Bible, but by a group of men, The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in New York. You are indoctrinated to believe in their interpretation of the Bible and are strongly warned not to draw your own conclusions. You could be labelled an apostate and face disfellowship.

You are not free to read from other religions and then reject those ideas, so your religion has taken away your ability to make an informed decision about your spirituality.

JWs are wolves in sheep's clothing. They come off as nice and caring because they are trying to sell a product, their religion. Deep down, they believe you are controlled by Satan unless you are a JW. A JW cannot truly be your friend if you not a JW. That would be a "bad association" for them and again, grounds for disfellowship.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26194713


"My son, if you will receive my sayings and treasure up my own commandments with yourself, 2 so as to pay attention to wisdom with your ear, that you may incline your heart to discernment; 3 if, moreover, you call out for understanding itself and you give forth your voice for discernment itself, 4 if you keep seeking for it as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it, 5 in that case you will understand the fear of Jehovah, and you will find the very knowledge of God. 6 For Jehovah himself gives wisdom; out of his mouth there are knowledge and discernment. 7 And for the upright ones he will treasure up practical wisdom; for those walking in integrity he is a shield, 8 by observing the paths of judgment, and he will guard the very way of his loyal ones. 9 In that case you will understand righteousness and judgment and uprightness, the entire course of what is good.
10 When wisdom enters into your heart and knowledge itself becomes pleasant to your very soul, 11 thinking ability itself will keep guard over you, discernment itself will safeguard you, 12 to deliver you from the bad way, from the man speaking perverse things, 13 from those leaving the paths of uprightness to walk in the ways of darkness, 14 from those who are rejoicing in doing bad, who are joyful in the perverse things of badness;" Pr2;1
 Quoting: DGN



Jesus warned against false prophets (like JW).

"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"
Matthew 7:15-16

The "fruits" of the Watchtower cult, their prophecies, have repeatedly proven false. Their argument to this is that the truth is being continually revealed to them. But they are clearly being mislead by false prophets, who change their teachings at their own whims, not through any increased enlightenment.
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So.....what "fruits" do you have to teach us all? please do
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Poor misguided Jehovah's Witnesses. You are in a cult created by Charles Taze Russell in the late 1800's.

The Watchtower is a multi-million dollar tax-free international corporation. Nearly every aspect of its members' lives are dictated by The Watchtower. It is a huge money-making venturing benefiting a few at the top.

Your belief system is dictated not by the Bible, but by a group of men, The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in New York. You are indoctrinated to believe in their interpretation of the Bible and are strongly warned not to draw your own conclusions. You could be labelled an apostate and face disfellowship.

You are not free to read from other religions and then reject those ideas, so your religion has taken away your ability to make an informed decision about your spirituality.

JWs are wolves in sheep's clothing. They come off as nice and caring because they are trying to sell a product, their religion. Deep down, they believe you are controlled by Satan unless you are a JW. A JW cannot truly be your friend if you not a JW. That would be a "bad association" for them and again, grounds for disfellowship.
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"My son, if you will receive my sayings and treasure up my own commandments with yourself, 2 so as to pay attention to wisdom with your ear, that you may incline your heart to discernment; 3 if, moreover, you call out for understanding itself and you give forth your voice for discernment itself, 4 if you keep seeking for it as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it, 5 in that case you will understand the fear of Jehovah, and you will find the very knowledge of God. 6 For Jehovah himself gives wisdom; out of his mouth there are knowledge and discernment. 7 And for the upright ones he will treasure up practical wisdom; for those walking in integrity he is a shield, 8 by observing the paths of judgment, and he will guard the very way of his loyal ones. 9 In that case you will understand righteousness and judgment and uprightness, the entire course of what is good.
10 When wisdom enters into your heart and knowledge itself becomes pleasant to your very soul, 11 thinking ability itself will keep guard over you, discernment itself will safeguard you, 12 to deliver you from the bad way, from the man speaking perverse things, 13 from those leaving the paths of uprightness to walk in the ways of darkness, 14 from those who are rejoicing in doing bad, who are joyful in the perverse things of badness;" Pr2;1
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Jesus warned against false prophets (like JW).

"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"
Matthew 7:15-16

The "fruits" of the Watchtower cult, their prophecies, have repeatedly proven false. Their argument to this is that the truth is being continually revealed to them. But they are clearly being mislead by false prophets, who change their teachings at their own whims, not through any increased enlightenment.
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So.....what "fruits" do you have to teach us all? please do
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The fruit of Jehovah's international spiritual nation, in contrast to the world's toxic nations was foretold by Isaiah;
"And it must occur in the final part of the days [that] the mountain of the house of Jehovah will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, and it will certainly be lifted up above the hills; and to it all the nations must stream. 3 And many peoples will certainly go and say: “Come, YOU people, and let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will instruct us about his ways, and we will walk in his paths.” For out of Zion law will go forth, and the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. 4 And he will certainly render judgment among the nations and set matters straight respecting many peoples. And they will have to beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, neither will they learn war anymore." Isa2:2
Meanwhile the rest of the world marches proudly to it's own self inflicted destiny;


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People here love doom, right?


Then this should get 5 stars! These people are fulfilling precursors to real doom!
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Yeah everytime they come visit I feel like I'm reading a GLP thread. DOOM DOOM SOON
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You cant get a gloomier message than THIS:

"The righteous themselves will possess the earth and they will reside forever upon it"- Psalms 37:29



Gosh that is a dark message isn't it????

angryface
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It gets worse lurch;
"And just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more;
And you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be.
11 But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,
And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace." Ps37:10
....bummer....
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I'm not liking this "good news" message...at ALL

:unhappy:
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Yeah everytime they come visit I feel like I'm reading a GLP thread. DOOM DOOM SOON
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You cant get a gloomier message than THIS:

"The righteous themselves will possess the earth and they will reside forever upon it"- Psalms 37:29



Gosh that is a dark message isn't it????

angryface
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It gets worse lurch;
"And just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more;
And you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be.
11 But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,
And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace." Ps37:10
....bummer....
 Quoting: DGN


I'm not liking this "good news" message...at ALL

:unhappy:
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It gets even worse still;
"And the wolf will actually reside for a while with the male lamb, and with the kid the leopard itself will lie down, and the calf and the maned young lion and the well-fed animal all together; and a mere little boy will be leader over them. 7 And the cow and the bear themselves will feed; together their young ones will lie down. And even the lion will eat straw just like the bull. 8 And the sucking child will certainly play upon the hole of the cobra; and upon the light aperture of a poisonous snake will a weaned child actually put his own hand. 9 They will not do any harm or cause any ruin in all my holy mountain; because the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah as the waters are covering the very sea." Isa.11:6
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You cant get a gloomier message than THIS:

"The righteous themselves will possess the earth and they will reside forever upon it"- Psalms 37:29



Gosh that is a dark message isn't it????

angryface
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


It gets worse lurch;
"And just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more;
And you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be.
11 But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,
And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace." Ps37:10
....bummer....
 Quoting: DGN


I'm not liking this "good news" message...at ALL

:unhappy:
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


It gets even worse still;
"And the wolf will actually reside for a while with the male lamb, and with the kid the leopard itself will lie down, and the calf and the maned young lion and the well-fed animal all together; and a mere little boy will be leader over them. 7 And the cow and the bear themselves will feed; together their young ones will lie down. And even the lion will eat straw just like the bull. 8 And the sucking child will certainly play upon the hole of the cobra; and upon the light aperture of a poisonous snake will a weaned child actually put his own hand. 9 They will not do any harm or cause any ruin in all my holy mountain; because the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah as the waters are covering the very sea." Isa.11:6
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scaredNO.......NO......not....peace with animals too
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It gets worse lurch;
"And just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more;
And you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be.
11 But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,
And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace." Ps37:10
....bummer....
 Quoting: DGN


I'm not liking this "good news" message...at ALL

:unhappy:
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


It gets even worse still;
"And the wolf will actually reside for a while with the male lamb, and with the kid the leopard itself will lie down, and the calf and the maned young lion and the well-fed animal all together; and a mere little boy will be leader over them. 7 And the cow and the bear themselves will feed; together their young ones will lie down. And even the lion will eat straw just like the bull. 8 And the sucking child will certainly play upon the hole of the cobra; and upon the light aperture of a poisonous snake will a weaned child actually put his own hand. 9 They will not do any harm or cause any ruin in all my holy mountain; because the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah as the waters are covering the very sea." Isa.11:6
 Quoting: DGN

scaredNO.......NO......not....peace with animals too
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..... yeah.... sorry just no more doom after the divine defeat of Satan's reign of terror.
"And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 And he hurled him into the abyss and shut [it] and sealed [it] over him, that he might not mislead the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After these things he must be let loose for a little while." Rv20:1
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I'm not liking this "good news" message...at ALL

:unhappy:
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It gets even worse still;
"And the wolf will actually reside for a while with the male lamb, and with the kid the leopard itself will lie down, and the calf and the maned young lion and the well-fed animal all together; and a mere little boy will be leader over them. 7 And the cow and the bear themselves will feed; together their young ones will lie down. And even the lion will eat straw just like the bull. 8 And the sucking child will certainly play upon the hole of the cobra; and upon the light aperture of a poisonous snake will a weaned child actually put his own hand. 9 They will not do any harm or cause any ruin in all my holy mountain; because the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah as the waters are covering the very sea." Isa.11:6
 Quoting: DGN

scaredNO.......NO......not....peace with animals too
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


..... yeah.... sorry just no more doom after the divine defeat of Satan's reign of terror.
"And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 And he hurled him into the abyss and shut [it] and sealed [it] over him, that he might not mislead the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After these things he must be let loose for a little while." Rv20:1
 Quoting: DGN


Then we get as reward.........


Next thing your going to tell me is that there wont be anymore starvation, crime, violence......all that good stuff
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you will never know true wisdom till you repent,and cry out to Father,and stop following earth gods. It is finished,and always has been.
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Rather...we need to not let ourselves follow THIS "earth god


". 3 If, now, the good news we declare is in fact veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, 4 among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through. "-2 Corinthians 4:4

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Poor misguided Jehovah's Witnesses. You are in a cult created by Charles Taze Russell in the late 1800's.

The Watchtower is a multi-million dollar tax-free international corporation. Nearly every aspect of its members' lives are dictated by The Watchtower. It is a huge money-making venturing benefiting a few at the top.

Your belief system is dictated not by the Bible, but by a group of men, The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in New York. You are indoctrinated to believe in their interpretation of the Bible and are strongly warned not to draw your own conclusions. You could be labelled an apostate and face disfellowship.

You are not free to read from other religions and then reject those ideas, so your religion has taken away your ability to make an informed decision about your spirituality.

JWs are wolves in sheep's clothing. They come off as nice and caring because they are trying to sell a product, their religion. Deep down, they believe you are controlled by Satan unless you are a JW. A JW cannot truly be your friend if you not a JW. That would be a "bad association" for them and again, grounds for disfellowship.
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THIS .
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Re: Why do Jehovah's Witnesses continue to preach door to door and in other ways? And what do you think of them?
Poor misguided Jehovah's Witnesses. You are in a cult created by Charles Taze Russell in the late 1800's.

The Watchtower is a multi-million dollar tax-free international corporation. Nearly every aspect of its members' lives are dictated by The Watchtower. It is a huge money-making venturing benefiting a few at the top.

Your belief system is dictated not by the Bible, but by a group of men, The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in New York. You are indoctrinated to believe in their interpretation of the Bible and are strongly warned not to draw your own conclusions. You could be labelled an apostate and face disfellowship.

You are not free to read from other religions and then reject those ideas, so your religion has taken away your ability to make an informed decision about your spirituality.

JWs are wolves in sheep's clothing. They come off as nice and caring because they are trying to sell a product, their religion. Deep down, they believe you are controlled by Satan unless you are a JW. A JW cannot truly be your friend if you not a JW. That would be a "bad association" for them and again, grounds for disfellowship.
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THIS .
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Poor misguided Jehovah's Witnesses. You are in a cult created by Charles Taze Russell in the late 1800's.

The Watchtower is a multi-million dollar tax-free international corporation. Nearly every aspect of its members' lives are dictated by The Watchtower. It is a huge money-making venturing benefiting a few at the top.

Your belief system is dictated not by the Bible, but by a group of men, The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in New York. You are indoctrinated to believe in their interpretation of the Bible and are strongly warned not to draw your own conclusions. You could be labelled an apostate and face disfellowship.

You are not free to read from other religions and then reject those ideas, so your religion has taken away your ability to make an informed decision about your spirituality.

JWs are wolves in sheep's clothing. They come off as nice and caring because they are trying to sell a product, their religion. Deep down, they believe you are controlled by Satan unless you are a JW. A JW cannot truly be your friend if you not a JW. That would be a "bad association" for them and again, grounds for disfellowship.
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THIS .
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Poor misguided Jehovah's Witnesses. You are in a cult created by Charles Taze Russell in the late 1800's.

The Watchtower is a multi-million dollar tax-free international corporation. Nearly every aspect of its members' lives are dictated by The Watchtower. It is a huge money-making venturing benefiting a few at the top.

Your belief system is dictated not by the Bible, but by a group of men, The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in New York. You are indoctrinated to believe in their interpretation of the Bible and are strongly warned not to draw your own conclusions. You could be labelled an apostate and face disfellowship.

You are not free to read from other religions and then reject those ideas, so your religion has taken away your ability to make an informed decision about your spirituality.

JWs are wolves in sheep's clothing. They come off as nice and caring because they are trying to sell a product, their religion. Deep down, they believe you are controlled by Satan unless you are a JW. A JW cannot truly be your friend if you not a JW. That would be a "bad association" for them and again, grounds for disfellowship.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26194713


THIS .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37629054


What a buncha ninny ninny babble;
"10 “Happy are those who have been persecuted for righteousness’ sake, since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them.
11 “Happy are YOU when people reproach YOU and persecute YOU and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against YOU for my sake. 12 Rejoice and leap for joy, since YOUR reward is great in the heavens; for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to YOU.
13 “YOU are the salt of the earth; but if the salt loses its strength, how will its saltness be restored? It is no longer usable for anything but to be thrown outside to be trampled on by men.
14 “YOU are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when situated upon a mountain. 15 People light a lamp and set it, not under the measuring basket, but upon the lampstand, and it shines upon all those in the house. 16 Likewise let YOUR light shine before men, that they may see YOUR fine works and give glory to YOUR Father who is in the heavens." Mt5;10
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Poor misguided Jehovah's Witnesses. You are in a cult created by Charles Taze Russell in the late 1800's.

The Watchtower is a multi-million dollar tax-free international corporation. Nearly every aspect of its members' lives are dictated by The Watchtower. It is a huge money-making venturing benefiting a few at the top.

Your belief system is dictated not by the Bible, but by a group of men, The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in New York. You are indoctrinated to believe in their interpretation of the Bible and are strongly warned not to draw your own conclusions. You could be labelled an apostate and face disfellowship.

You are not free to read from other religions and then reject those ideas, so your religion has taken away your ability to make an informed decision about your spirituality.

JWs are wolves in sheep's clothing. They come off as nice and caring because they are trying to sell a product, their religion. Deep down, they believe you are controlled by Satan unless you are a JW. A JW cannot truly be your friend if you not a JW. That would be a "bad association" for them and again, grounds for disfellowship.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26194713


THIS .
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So.....I guess your not interested in the Good News

(who wants to hear good news anyway- its rather depressing)





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