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PORTUGAL Government prepares second bailout!!! Government ponders paying holiday bonuses with titles treasure!!!

 
Luisport (OP)

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03/28/2013 05:56 AM

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np we to whealthy people of the nord will gladly give the poor people of the south some billions.

we are used to it so...

hf
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EU don't have sufficient money to bail out Spain and Italy
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03/28/2013 05:57 AM
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Italy and Spain too... like an atomic bomb! abomb
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When Cyprus fall, greece falls.When Greece falls, Spain falls.When Spain falls...EVERYTHING falls!



Cyprus counts more than people think.
 Quoting: recollector


The first big event will be Portugal and then Spain and Italy, don't nead of Cyprus and Greece to the fall
 Quoting: Luisport



Well, I talked about Cyprus because it is the one in really big trouble and it is very close to Greece, in terms of banking, investemnts, etc.


Ofc if Portugal fails, Spain and Italy will follow very fast, and it is game over.
 Quoting: recollector


Spain is already screwed. 1in 4 youth unemployment and they've already been plundering pensions and the rest of the social security fund in order to prop up sales of their treasury bills. Italian voters have already demonstrated their opinion about the EU, and France is totally broke too. Peripheries are going to be hurting badly, we are certainly not getting the full picture about them. Oh, and the UK is over £3 trillion or £27000 per taxpayer in debt, so we're fucked too.

And you don't even want to start looking under the hood in the US: [link to www.usdebtclock.org]

Oh, and before I forget, the top handful of banking institutions have over $600 trillion in derivative exposure. That's more moneythan exists in THE WHOLE WORLD.
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03/28/2013 05:57 AM
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Does Portugal have any wealthy people they can go after?
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03/28/2013 05:57 AM
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This is not austerity, but targeted austerity.
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03/28/2013 05:57 AM
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Greese is nothing. Cyprus is nothing.

Everything hinges on Portugal.
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Italy and Spain too... like an atomic bomb! abomb
 Quoting: Luisport



When Cyprus fall, greece falls.When Greece falls, Spain falls.When Spain falls...EVERYTHING falls!



Cyprus counts more than people think.
 Quoting: recollector


tend to think... this

cyprus may be small and their enforced bailout may also be small but donna letta thatta foolya
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03/28/2013 05:57 AM
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+5
Things are speeding up!!
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It won't be long now. The great fall could begin as early as tomorrow.
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03/28/2013 05:57 AM

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Does Portugal have any wealthy people they can go after?
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yes but they are allways protected
Anonymous Coward
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03/28/2013 05:58 AM
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we already gave spain 100billion tho...
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+5
Things are speeding up!!
 Quoting: Primus-Cura


It won't be long now. The great fall could begin as early as tomorrow.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23556561


begining of April i think... 8th April probably
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03/28/2013 06:00 AM
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When Cyprus fall, greece falls.When Greece falls, Spain falls.When Spain falls...EVERYTHING falls!



Cyprus counts more than people think.
 Quoting: recollector


The first big event will be Portugal and then Spain and Italy, don't nead of Cyprus and Greece to the fall
 Quoting: Luisport



Well, I talked about Cyprus because it is the one in really big trouble and it is very close to Greece, in terms of banking, investemnts, etc.


Ofc if Portugal fails, Spain and Italy will follow very fast, and it is game over.
 Quoting: recollector


Spain is already screwed. 1in 4 youth unemployment and they've already been plundering pensions and the rest of the social security fund in order to prop up sales of their treasury bills. Italian voters have already demonstrated their opinion about the EU, and France is totally broke too. Peripheries are going to be hurting badly, we are certainly not getting the full picture about them. Oh, and the UK is over £3 trillion or £27000 per taxpayer in debt, so we're fucked too.

And you don't even want to start looking under the hood in the US: [link to www.usdebtclock.org]

Oh, and before I forget, the top handful of banking institutions have over $600 trillion in derivative exposure. That's more moneythan exists in THE WHOLE WORLD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26302253


Swingeing cuts are on the way.
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Anonymous Coward
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03/28/2013 06:01 AM
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we just need a european nation!!

1 european people!!

1 nation!!

1 governement!!
Marxist

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03/28/2013 06:02 AM
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Does Portugal have any wealthy people they can go after?
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yes but they are allways protected
 Quoting: Luisport


They brought about the mayhem with their trickle down nonsense.
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Anonymous Coward
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03/28/2013 06:02 AM
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Does Portugal have any wealthy people they can go after?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36953021


yes but they are allways protected
 Quoting: Luisport


That's what the government in Cyprus said...
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03/28/2013 06:04 AM
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we just need a european nation!!

1 european people!!

1 nation!!

1 governement!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36784441


What you want is never relevant. You take what you are given. Haven't you sussed that out yet.
Workers of the World, Unite. You have nothing to lose but your chains!
Anonymous Coward
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03/28/2013 06:05 AM
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we just need a european nation!!

1 european people!!

1 nation!!

1 governement!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36784441


So instead of having crony capitalism in each individual country, we'll have one small group of elite masters for the whole continent?! No thank you.
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03/28/2013 06:06 AM
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we just need a european nation!!

1 european people!!

1 nation!!

1 governement!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36784441


So instead of having crony capitalism in each individual country, we'll have one small group of elite masters for the whole continent?! No thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26302253


lol, Germany already runs the show, and they didn't even have to fire a shot this time.
Luisport (OP)

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03/28/2013 06:07 AM

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we just need a european nation!!

1 european people!!

1 nation!!

1 governement!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36784441


no we don't!
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03/28/2013 06:09 AM
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np we to whealthy people of the nord will gladly give the poor people of the south some billions.

we are used to it so..

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36784441


EU don't have sufficient money to bail out Spain and Italy
 Quoting: Luisport


They don't. have sufficient. money. to bail out a drunk who,s in jail foe DUI .
Marxist

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Re: PORTUGAL Government prepares second bailout!!! Government ponders paying holiday bonuses with titles treasure!!!
we just need a european nation!!

1 european people!!

1 nation!!

1 governement!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36784441


So instead of having crony capitalism in each individual country, we'll have one small group of elite masters for the whole continent?! No thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26302253


Good point. However, the continent has always had one elite who from time to time squabble. But benefit as a group. This nong thinks that he will benefit if the continental elite made the scam bigger.
Workers of the World, Unite. You have nothing to lose but your chains!
Anonymous Coward
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03/28/2013 06:11 AM
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Greese is nothing. Cyprus is nothing.

Everything hinges on Portugal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36897320


Italy and Spain too... like an atomic bomb! abomb
 Quoting: Luisport



When Cyprus fall, greece falls.When Greece falls, Spain falls.When Spain falls...EVERYTHING falls!



Cyprus counts more than people think.
 Quoting: recollector


The first big event will be Portugal and then Spain and Italy, don't nead of Cyprus and Greece to the fall
 Quoting: Luisport


In the last 8 weeks Cyprus transferred @ 172 billion to Greece (according to EZB Data).

So the Cyprus bailout is in fact a back door Greece bailout.

Sure Portugal can have more help, just don’t send it to Greece hf
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03/28/2013 06:13 AM
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03/28/2013 06:13 AM

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In the last 8 weeks Cyprus transferred @ 172 billion to Greece (according to EZB Data).

So the Cyprus bailout is in fact a back door Greece bailout.

Sure Portugal can have more help, just don’t send it to Greece hf
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Sure 172BN is plain BS claim. Are you sure about that?
Luisport (OP)

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03/28/2013 06:13 AM

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Italy and Spain too... like an atomic bomb! abomb
 Quoting: Luisport



When Cyprus fall, greece falls.When Greece falls, Spain falls.When Spain falls...EVERYTHING falls!



Cyprus counts more than people think.
 Quoting: recollector


The first big event will be Portugal and then Spain and Italy, don't nead of Cyprus and Greece to the fall
 Quoting: Luisport


In the last 8 weeks Cyprus transferred @ 172 billion to Greece (according to EZB Data).

So the Cyprus bailout is in fact a back door Greece bailout.

Sure Portugal can have more help, just don’t send it to Greece hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36545374


i wasn't saying that EU should not help Greece or other countries
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03/28/2013 06:14 AM
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yawn
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not interested eh.

IF YOU WANT TO YAWN . GO TO SLEEP.

Phww. people like you?

Oxygen thieves.
Anonymous Coward
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03/28/2013 06:15 AM
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we just need a european nation!!

1 european people!!

1 nation!!

1 governement!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36784441


So instead of having crony capitalism in each individual country, we'll have one small group of elite masters for the whole continent?! No thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26302253


Good point. However, the continent has always had one elite who from time to time squabble. But benefit as a group. This nong thinks that he will benefit if the continental elite made the scam bigger.
 Quoting: Marxist


Probably because he's Belgian. Of course Belgium wants an integrated Europe, they've been running net per capita deficit since 1980, the only way they still have an economy is thanks to drawing huge EU subsidies every year.
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03/28/2013 06:15 AM

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Luis, is there a lot of Russian investments in PT?


This caught my eye too -


More Russians buy vacation property abroad

More and more Russians are buying vacation property abroad, but they may not be aware of all the risks.

More and more Russians are buying vacation homes abroad. If five years ago only wealthy people could buy houses by the sea outside of the former Soviet space, today many middle-class Russians are seeing the appeal, even if it means going into debt. Many new buyers see property abroad as an investment. The financial crisis in the Eurozone has caused real estate prices in France, Spain, Portugal and Cyprus to drop, but investors believe that prices will eventually recover.

full -
[link to rbth.ru]


I think may Russians might be second thinking their investments right about now...

Last Edited by 2012Portal on 03/28/2013 06:15 AM
Mayan Calendar and 2012-
From the love of power to the power of Love -
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Luisport (OP)

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03/28/2013 06:16 AM

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Luis, is there a lot of Russian investments in PT?


This caught my eye too -


More Russians buy vacation property abroad

More and more Russians are buying vacation property abroad, but they may not be aware of all the risks.

More and more Russians are buying vacation homes abroad. If five years ago only wealthy people could buy houses by the sea outside of the former Soviet space, today many middle-class Russians are seeing the appeal, even if it means going into debt. Many new buyers see property abroad as an investment. The financial crisis in the Eurozone has caused real estate prices in France, Spain, Portugal and Cyprus to drop, but investors believe that prices will eventually recover.

full -
[link to rbth.ru]


I think may Russians might be second thinking their investments right about now...
 Quoting: 2012Portal


no i don't think so
Anonymous Coward
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03/28/2013 06:16 AM
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Spain is already screwed. 1in 4 youth unemployment
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26302253

About 1 in 4 total.
More than 1 in 2 youth unemployment. About 56%

:(
iBryson

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03/28/2013 06:16 AM

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Please don't worry, you'll get your money like the other countries, they are too big to fail, all the countries will be bailed out with endless amount of money, lol.
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