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Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes

 
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Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
154 rounds in five minutes = 1 shot every 2 sec.

and this exploit without breaking any windows on the front side of the classroom.

dont tell me i am wrong, i have the pictures.

possible?
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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
Easily. Ive looked at this issue of what Adam was carrying and shooting.


Carrying/shooting an AR(7 lbs), tactical vest with mags in it(~15lbs dep on how much ammo, ea fully loaded 30 rd AR mag is ~16 oz), and 2 handguns in holsters(couple lbs), good belt, isnt a big deal and anyone who knows firearms and shooting knows that. Thats a pretty light load actually so thats not an issue that some have said it was. Soldiers 2 years younger than him are fighting in combat and carrying loads far greater than that.



And 150 rounds in 4-5 minutes between lobby and 2 classrooms all right together is doable. Heres 300 rounds aimed in 2 minutes with mag changes.

[link to www.youtube.com]



This guy has a load on him that would be similar to what Adam probably had, except this guy had on a backpack which Adam didnt that we know of.
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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
The degree of accuracy is astounding.

Out of 27 victims (28 if you count the unnamed shot-in-the-foot lady), 26 kills.

I know the shill reply: 'those little kids were defenseless...like fish in a barrel'

But do you think they just stood still while the shooter aimed?

And what happened in Soto's room before Lanza got there, while Rousseau's room was being shot up?

Did they at least lock the door? Isn't that what is supposed to happen?

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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
The degree of accuracy is astounding.

Out of 27 victims (28 if you count the unnamed shot-in-the-foot lady), 26 kills.

I know the shill reply: 'those little kids were defenseless...like fish in a barrel'

But do you think they just stood still while the shooter aimed?

And what happened in Soto's room before Lanza got there, while Rousseau's room was being shot up?

Did they at least lock the door? Isn't that what is supposed to happen?

oidalG
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36975803


Both rooms people were found mostly in a corner of each room so nowhere to run.

As far as accuracy - LOL. Accuracy at several feet with a rifle isnt an issue.
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@ 0654

You didn't answer my questions:

What was happening in Soto's room while the shooter was in Rousseau's?

Should have been ample time to at the very least shut and lock the door.
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03/28/2013 04:48 PM
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@ 0654

You didn't answer my questions:

What was happening in Soto's room while the shooter was in Rousseau's?

Should have been ample time to at the very least shut and lock the door.
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I would think so also.


I wonder how certain it is that he went into Rousseau's room first? I always thought it an odd choice to bypass Soto's room, go into and shoot up Rousseau's room, and then come back 1 classroom to Soto's.

Is it possible he shot up Soto's classroom first, then went into Rouseau's Classroom and shot them up, and then came back to Soto's room for the 'final burst' they said he did and the suicide?
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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
You can NOT do it with a pistol. That is what they are claiming was used.
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03/28/2013 04:51 PM
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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
you also have to factor in that one of his guns supposedly 'jammed' and he had to switch to his backup on the fly, a la call of duty style


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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
You can NOT do it with a pistol. That is what they are claiming was used.
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/\This is disinformation brought to you by a gun control advocate.

Of course, they are not claiming that.
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03/28/2013 05:07 PM
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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
I thought Adam only had TWO HAND GUNS INSIDE THE SCHOOL?

It was shown on the news that the AR AND RIFLE were IN THE TRUNK OF HIS CAR!
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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
I thought Adam only had TWO HAND GUNS INSIDE THE SCHOOL?

It was shown on the news that the AR AND RIFLE were IN THE TRUNK OF HIS CAR!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 252372


NO it wasnt. No AR was shown in the trunk. Only a Saiga-12.

That is more disinformation that should have been over, but is still being repeated.

and-
[link to www.ct.gov]
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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
154 rounds in five minutes = 1 shot every 2 sec.

and this exploit without breaking any windows on the front side of the classroom.

dont tell me i am wrong, i have the pictures.

possible?
 Quoting: (white cross) 30238953


Have you ever come across any pictures of broken windows or bullet holes in windows where the classrooms are?
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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
154 rounds in five minutes = 1 shot every 2 sec.

and this exploit without breaking any windows on the front side of the classroom.

dont tell me i am wrong, i have the pictures.

possible?
 Quoting: (white cross) 30238953


it's called bullet time.

he built up his super meter prior to the event.

at the end he had neither any endurance nor any tech points left, so the only option was to game over himself.

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rhombus will set you free...

some try to tell me thoughts they cannot defend. just what you want to be, you will be in the end!

if you can't face the truth it's probably raping you from behind.
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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
bullet time
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lol

verycool
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03/28/2013 05:21 PM
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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
that's 1.9 seconds per shot

1.9 seconds is plenty of time to swap a mag

so even if he had 5 round mags...

s226
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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
This SANDY HOAX serves an Obama agenda too much, so it can not be legit if Obama politicizes it.
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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
that's 1.9 seconds per shot

1.9 seconds is plenty of time to swap a mag

so even if he had 5 round mags...

s226
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Maybe, MAYBE for someone highly trained in combat.

Where did Adam hone his skills? On the Xbox?
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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
154 rounds in five minutes = 1 shot every 2 sec.

and this exploit without breaking any windows on the front side of the classroom.

dont tell me i am wrong, i have the pictures.

possible?
 Quoting: (white cross) 30238953


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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
Easily. Ive looked at this issue of what Adam was carrying and shooting.


Carrying/shooting an AR(7 lbs), tactical vest with mags in it(~15lbs dep on how much ammo, ea fully loaded 30 rd AR mag is ~16 oz), and 2 handguns in holsters(couple lbs), ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36860504


your demonstration is not conclusive, because.

-the shooter needed to move
-the target probably moved
-the bullet could do richochet.

-the shooter did long pause, (enough to let Miss Sibley walk to the entrance.)
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03/28/2013 11:39 PM
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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
impossible, maybe if they was all lined up in a row but to move room to room like his special ops trained n shoot that accurately, anyway those with a brain n have seen all the evidence(dug up not released mainstream)know that theres at least 4 people involved..why was all the doors on the car used open at the scene of the crime?

and i thought they found at least 5 handguns inside the building..just goin by police radio reports, 1st responders in there said at least 5 handguns found

i noticed today on american news they are about to start a multi billion anti gun campaign, so get ready for some major brainwashing propaganda
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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
Easily. Ive looked at this issue of what Adam was carrying and shooting.


Carrying/shooting an AR(7 lbs), tactical vest with mags in it(~15lbs dep on how much ammo, ea fully loaded 30 rd AR mag is ~16 oz), and 2 handguns in holsters(couple lbs), ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36860504


your demonstration is not conclusive, because.

-the shooter needed to move
-the target probably moved
-the bullet could do richochet.

-the shooter did long pause, (enough to let Miss Sibley walk to the entrance.)
 Quoting: (white cross) 30238953


As Ive shown, 150 rounds controlled, aimed fire in 1 minute is doable stationary.

-a dozen or 20 or so rounds in the lobby and hall between 2 staff and Hammond
-walk into office and back out
-move to classroom 30-40 feet away, then 60-70 rounds
-move to second classroom right beside first, then 60-70 rounds

so 1 minute can do 150 rounds straight aimed
add in time in office 30 seconds
add in time to go to first classroom 30 seconds
add in time to go to second classroom 30 seconds
long pause was probably either going to 1st classroom or going from 1st to 2nd

thats 2 1/2 minutes there

so not only is 5 minutes enough time, its way more than enough time


targets moving not an issue:
-two staff in lobby would have been shot directly
-shots into conf room door, no moving targets there
-both classrooms have been reported victims in 1 corner of each so few to no moving targets there
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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
Easily. Ive looked at this issue of what Adam was carrying and shooting.


Carrying/shooting an AR(7 lbs), tactical vest with mags in it(~15lbs dep on how much ammo, ea fully loaded 30 rd AR mag is ~16 oz), and 2 handguns in holsters(couple lbs), ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36860504


your demonstration is not conclusive, because.

-the shooter needed to move
-the target probably moved
-the bullet could do richochet.

-the shooter did long pause, (enough to let Miss Sibley walk to the entrance.)
 Quoting: (white cross) 30238953


As Ive shown, 150 rounds controlled, aimed fire in 1 minute is doable stationary.

-a dozen or 20 or so rounds in the lobby and hall between 2 staff and Hammond
-walk into office and back out
-move to classroom 30-40 feet away, then 60-70 rounds
-move to second classroom right beside first, then 60-70 rounds

so 1 minute can do 150 rounds straight aimed
add in time in office 30 seconds
add in time to go to first classroom 30 seconds
add in time to go to second classroom 30 seconds
long pause was probably either going to 1st classroom or going from 1st to 2nd

thats 2 1/2 minutes there

so not only is 5 minutes enough time, its way more than enough time


targets moving not an issue:
-two staff in lobby would have been shot directly
-shots into conf room door, no moving targets there
-both classrooms have been reported victims in 1 corner of each so few to no moving targets there
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36860504


and Fred before you try and call me incorrectness, yes I know some kids were killed hiding under desks, but most all in both classrooms were reported in one corner of each.
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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
BTW, does anyone know if he supposedly shot Hammond before going in the office or after?
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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
...

As Ive shown, 150 rounds controlled, aimed fire in 1 minute is doable stationary.

-a dozen or 20 or so rounds in the lobby and hall between 2 staff and Hammond
-walk into office and back out
-move to classroom 30-40 feet away, then 60-70 rounds
-move to second classroom right beside first, then 60-70 rounds

so 1 minute can do 150 rounds straight aimed
add in time in office 30 seconds
add in time to go to first classroom 30 seconds
add in time to go to second classroom 30 seconds
long pause was probably either going to 1st classroom or going from 1st to 2nd

thats 2 1/2 minutes there

so not only is 5 minutes enough time, its way more than enough time


targets moving not an issue:
-two staff in lobby would have been shot directly
-shots into conf room door, no moving targets there
-both classrooms have been reported victims in 1 corner of each so few to no moving targets there
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36860504


it's not about the amount of shoots, that is strange...

it's to shoots 154 without breaking any windows in the classroom.
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03/29/2013 12:19 AM
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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
Adam Lanza didn't shoot anyone. Sandy Hook was a big fat lie.
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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
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and Fred before you try and call me incorrectness, yes I know some kids were killed hiding under desks, but most all in both classrooms were reported in one corner of each.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36860504


but you dont count the kids from Soto classroom who escaped.
(passing through the shooter...) so maybe kids dont stay without moving.


ps: you did good fly from Korea?
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BTW, does anyone know if he supposedly shot Hammond before going in the office or after?
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we even didnt know if she was wounded in the hall or through the door trying to lock with her body.
(or if the wounded through the door refer to the other teacher wounded) and even if she exist and was really drived to Fairfiel Hospital.
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...

As Ive shown, 150 rounds controlled, aimed fire in 1 minute is doable stationary.

-a dozen or 20 or so rounds in the lobby and hall between 2 staff and Hammond
-walk into office and back out
-move to classroom 30-40 feet away, then 60-70 rounds
-move to second classroom right beside first, then 60-70 rounds

so 1 minute can do 150 rounds straight aimed
add in time in office 30 seconds
add in time to go to first classroom 30 seconds
add in time to go to second classroom 30 seconds
long pause was probably either going to 1st classroom or going from 1st to 2nd

thats 2 1/2 minutes there

so not only is 5 minutes enough time, its way more than enough time


targets moving not an issue:
-two staff in lobby would have been shot directly
-shots into conf room door, no moving targets there
-both classrooms have been reported victims in 1 corner of each so few to no moving targets there
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36860504


it's not about the amount of shoots, that is strange...

it's to shoots 154 without breaking any windows in the classroom.
 Quoting: (white cross) 30238953


ricochet isnt a generally a concern with 5.56. It usually fragments and loses most energy on impact with a solid surface like cinder block

some rounds supposedly did make it directly out the window though because thats supposedly how the cars got hit. How do you know for sure that no windows were penetrated?
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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
ricochet isnt a generally a concern with 5.56. It usually fragments and loses most energy on impact with a solid surface like cinder block

some rounds supposedly did make it directly out the window though because thats supposedly how the cars got hit. How do you know for sure that no windows were penetrated?
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correction: it will ricochet at shallow angles on hard surfaces, but unlikely to hit a window unless aimed very close to that general direction of the window in the first place because thats the only way a ricochet from 5.56 could make it to the window. In other words, 5.56 isnt going to ricochet from great angles to the window, from somewhere thats not aimed in the general direction oft eh windows in the first place.
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Re: Sandy Hook: Lanza fired 154 rounds in five minutes
And who was the guy running away from the cops in the forest? Who was the other guy detained sitting on the hood of a cop car?

Is there proof that any kids really died?
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