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yer in fer a big ole surprise when it turns out gawd almighty is gay.
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Thank you Veresanctus.

The Old Testament and the New Testament are clear on this issue.
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hf

I am so sick of people defending sin as if it's ok and that somehow you are at fault and deserve to be punished for fighting against sin and sinful practices.

Homosexuality is all about LUST and in so doing leads into all forms of sexual sin including pornography, pedophilia, bestiality, etc. etc.
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If I do not defend the Sinner,

I will have to come to you with wrath.

Is that what YOU want?
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How about I just show you why the Law is, and how it can change the inner to reflect a divine outer?

Watch and be amazed!


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Live by the Law, die by the Law because the Law cannot save you!
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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Live by the Law, die by the Law because the Law cannot save you!
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Then why are you bringing it up?
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Live by the Law, die by the Law because the Law cannot save you!
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Then why are you bringing it up?
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Because you are
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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Live by the Law, die by the Law because the Law cannot save you!
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Then why are you bringing it up?
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Because you are
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You started this thread.
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Live by the Law, die by the Law because the Law cannot save you!
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Then why are you bringing it up?
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Because you are
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You started this thread.
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Yes I did regarding sin, not about being saved by the law as you have inferred.
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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Then why are you bringing it up?
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Because you are
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You started this thread.
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Yes I did regarding sin, not about being saved by the law as you have inferred.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Sin IS transgression of God's Law.
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Because you are
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You started this thread.
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Yes I did regarding sin, not about being saved by the law as you have inferred.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Sin IS transgression of God's Law.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


I know that... You obviously assume something that is not true because you keep posting as if you are countering me but yet you are not.

Don't you get it? Homosexuality is WRONG it is an abomination to God which means it is so bad it makes him sick. BUT YET people defend it as if it's okay.

Your conscience is seared and you seem to be oblivious to right and wrong.
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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OP, if you truly admitted how wretched you really are, you would not point the finger at others.

If you were honest with yourself, and understood fully the level of wickedness in your own heart, you would run away with your head hanging low.

If every thought you ever had, and every word you ever said, and every deed you ever did was written in a book for all to read, including yourself.......you'd run away, change your identity with the attempts to cover your own shame, depravity and wretchedness. You are completely depraved.

This is the truth, and your righteousness is filthy rags compared to Christ.

If you are honest hearted, you will agree with my statements. If you don't, then you're not honestly evaluating your own heart. We are all as I described above, every one of us including myself.

Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees was Jesus's warnings to us all. What is the leaven He spoke us? Self- righteousness.


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You started this thread.
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Yes I did regarding sin, not about being saved by the law as you have inferred.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Sin IS transgression of God's Law.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


I know that... You obviously assume something that is not true because you keep posting as if you are countering me but yet you are not.

Don't you get it? Homosexuality is WRONG it is an abomination to God which means it is so bad it makes him sick. BUT YET people defend it as if it's okay.

Your conscience is seared and you seem to be oblivious to right and wrong.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


And YOU are still dead in YOUR sin.

So who are YOU to correct another?

YOU are stuck in a ditch screaming for others to join you there.
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"Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name: Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ: To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world. For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers; Making request, if by any means now at length I might have a prosperous journey by the will of God to come unto you. For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established; That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith both of you and me. Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles. I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians; both to the wise, and to the unwise. So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." -- (Romans Chapter 1 verses 1-32 KJV)
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hf
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"You" are not qualified to judge anything, regardless how much you think you know...

"For all have sinned and fell short of the glory of God"...

Clean up your own life and when you are without sin, then feel free to cast the first stone...I guess that means you have to stfu now...
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Paul never knew Jesus.

Paul aka Saul, was rejected by Christ and all others in the Church of the Nazarene.

Stop perpetuating lies.
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Paul never knew Jesus? Seriously? Jesus appeared to him and he was never the same. I'd say he knew him.
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OP, if you truly admitted how wretched you really are, you would not point the finger at others.

If you were honest with yourself, and understood fully the level of wickedness in your own heart, you would run away with your head hanging low.

If every thought you ever had, and every word you ever said, and every deed you ever did was written in a book for all to read, including yourself.......you'd run away, change your identity with the attempts to cover your own shame, depravity and wretchedness. You are completely depraved.

This is the truth, and your righteousness is filthy rags compared to Christ.

If you are honest hearted, you will agree with my statements. If you don't, then you're not honestly evaluating your own heart. We are all as I described above, every one of us including myself.

Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees was Jesus's warnings to us all. What is the leaven He spoke us? Self- righteousness.


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So by telling me I'm pointing fingers you are doing the same and all the while ignoring the real issue here.

I would expect you Lisa to understand the point here and the need to expose evil and corruption as commanded by God.

Homosexuality is EVIL no matter how much people want it to be otherwise, and I will continue to fight against the Devil and sin for as long as I have breath.

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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Homosexuality is EVIL no matter how much people want it to be otherwise.
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And so are you.
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You just cannot stop returning to your vomit can you lazy lion?

Slurp it up, I'll leave you to your meal.
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"You" are not qualified to judge anything, regardless how much you think you know...

"For all have sinned and fell short of the glory of God"...

Clean up your own life and when you are without sin, then feel free to cast the first stone...I guess that means you have to stfu now...
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God qualifies me as a son of God to judge even the Angels!

"Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?" - (1 Corinthians 6:2-3 KJV)

We are commanded by Jesus to judge: "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." - (John 7:24 KJV)

I never said to cast stones at homosexuals I merely quoted the bible saying that homosexuality is wrong. It should not be accepted as normal and ok and people should turn away from it.

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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"You" are not qualified to judge anything, regardless how much you think you know...

"For all have sinned and fell short of the glory of God"...

Clean up your own life and when you are without sin, then feel free to cast the first stone...I guess that means you have to stfu now...
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God qualifies me as a son of God to judge even the Angels!

"Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?" - (1 Corinthians 6:2-3 KJV)

We are commanded by Jesus to judge: "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." - (John 7:24 KJV)

I never said to cast stones at homosexuals I merely quoted the bible saying that homosexuality is wrong. It should not be accepted as normal and ok and people should turn away from it.
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Children of Islam,

There is a Jew behind me!

Come and kill the Jew!
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"You" are not qualified to judge anything, regardless how much you think you know...

"For all have sinned and fell short of the glory of God"...

Clean up your own life and when you are without sin, then feel free to cast the first stone...I guess that means you have to stfu now...
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God qualifies me as a son of God to judge even the Angels!

"Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?" - (1 Corinthians 6:2-3 KJV)

We are commanded by Jesus to judge: "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." - (John 7:24 KJV)

I never said to cast stones at homosexuals I merely quoted the bible saying that homosexuality is wrong. It should not be accepted as normal and ok and people should turn away from it.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Children of Islam,

There is a Jew behind me!

Come and kill the Jew!
 Quoting: IAMIAM


What's wrong with you? Why are you now quoting the Koran?
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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"You" are not qualified to judge anything, regardless how much you think you know...

"For all have sinned and fell short of the glory of God"...

Clean up your own life and when you are without sin, then feel free to cast the first stone...I guess that means you have to stfu now...
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God qualifies me as a son of God to judge even the Angels!

"Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?" - (1 Corinthians 6:2-3 KJV)

We are commanded by Jesus to judge: "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." - (John 7:24 KJV)

I never said to cast stones at homosexuals I merely quoted the bible saying that homosexuality is wrong. It should not be accepted as normal and ok and people should turn away from it.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Children of Islam,

There is a Jew behind me!

Come and kill the Jew!
 Quoting: IAMIAM


What's wrong with you? Why are you now quoting the Koran?
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Just marking you for judgement.

Don't mind me.
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God qualifies me as a son of God to judge even the Angels!

"Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?" - (1 Corinthians 6:2-3 KJV)

We are commanded by Jesus to judge: "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." - (John 7:24 KJV)

I never said to cast stones at homosexuals I merely quoted the bible saying that homosexuality is wrong. It should not be accepted as normal and ok and people should turn away from it.
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Children of Islam,

There is a Jew behind me!

Come and kill the Jew!
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What's wrong with you? Why are you now quoting the Koran?
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Just marking you for judgement.

Don't mind me.
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I posted this thread against Homosexuality not singling out (judging) any specific person and yet you keep posting statements about judging yet you yourself are apparently doing the very thing you accuse me of.

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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"Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name: Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ: To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world. For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers; Making request, if by any means now at length I might have a prosperous journey by the will of God to come unto you. For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established; That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith both of you and me. Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles. I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians; both to the wise, and to the unwise. So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." -- (Romans Chapter 1 verses 1-32 KJV)
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Do you feel better for that OP?

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"The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles."

Just a kind clarification to your thread title if you don't mind. Wrath is against those who suppress the truth of a Holy God, those unwilling to retain the knowledge of a pure and holy God. Their wickedness and iniquities are the very reason for their rejection. As they were determined  to practice iniquity, they chose to exclude the knowledge of a pure God in order to worship idols which give approval to their lusts. For example, those with sexual lusts will reject Our Holy God in favor of the state or another religion which allows them to act upon those sexual lusts. 

"24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."

In His wrath, He gives them over to shameful lusts such as the rampant homosexuality and pedophilia we see today. Just as He draws us towards Him to produce good fruit, His wrath presses the reprobate mind to produce bad fruit from the wickedness and iniquity in their heart. This pressing sears the mind from simply sleeping with a same sex partner to fighting for laws, teaching children in school, and condemning all who will not condone their very iniquity. Homosexuals under reprobation exhibit fascist behaviour, a seething and gnashing against all who will not declare their perversity "normal". We see it today. Reprobate minds can never be satisfied with anything less than forcing full acceptance of their perversion. 

Therefore I would clarify your title "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against homosexuality etc..." 
Paul is writing here that His wrath is revealed against all who refuse to acknowledge Him, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. They DENY Him and instead worship things because those things condone their iniquities.

So whilst homosexuality may be a lust in their heart, it isn't directly what His wrath is directed at: but instead they refused to glorify Him as God and Creator due to those lusts. Therefore, He gives them over to that lust to do the unseemly, and in doing so, they heap deeds upon themselves which will condemn them. That lust will produce the bad fruit we are experiencing today - everything from those who seethe at Christians who post the Truth to those that push for laws to force little kids to learn that sodomy and homosexual lifestyles are "normal". Reprobate minds.
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OP, if you truly admitted how wretched you really are, you would not point the finger at others.

If you were honest with yourself, and understood fully the level of wickedness in your own heart, you would run away with your head hanging low.

If every thought you ever had, and every word you ever said, and every deed you ever did was written in a book for all to read, including yourself.......you'd run away, change your identity with the attempts to cover your own shame, depravity and wretchedness. You are completely depraved.

This is the truth, and your righteousness is filthy rags compared to Christ.

If you are honest hearted, you will agree with my statements. If you don't, then you're not honestly evaluating your own heart. We are all as I described above, every one of us including myself.

Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees was Jesus's warnings to us all. What is the leaven He spoke us? Self- righteousness.


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So by telling me I'm pointing fingers you are doing the same and all the while ignoring the real issue here.

I would expect you Lisa to understand the point here and the need to expose evil and corruption as commanded by God.

Homosexuality is EVIL no matter how much people want it to be otherwise, and I will continue to fight against the Devil and sin for as long as I have breath.
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Brother, you didn't address what I wrote above, but only attempted to defend yourself.

Please address my post above.

And know that I'm not trying to hurt you.
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Paul never knew Jesus.

Paul aka Saul, was rejected by Christ and all others in the Church of the Nazarene.

Stop perpetuating lies.
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lol silly
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The true evil is relgion. It has people codemning what people choose to do with their lives.

Btw.., the original inhabiants of this planet were uni-gender. It was your god (alien genetic scientist) who pulled them apart., then set up a dna command structure to bring them together to rapidly breed.

Of course your book would say it's evil - can't have non breeders on the farm, can we! !!

That dna command structure has deteriorated over the years, as it is not natural to earths inhabitants, it is the reason for the rapid rise in open display of homosexual and bi-sexual lifestyles.
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Children of Islam,

There is a Jew behind me!

Come and kill the Jew!
 Quoting: IAMIAM


What's wrong with you? Why are you now quoting the Koran?
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Just marking you for judgement.

Don't mind me.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


I posted this thread against Homosexuality not singling out (judging) any specific person and yet you keep posting statements about judging yet you yourself are apparently doing the very thing you accuse me of.

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Ah, a righteous judgment would be judging those who judge.
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OP, if you truly admitted how wretched you really are, you would not point the finger at others.

If you were honest with yourself, and understood fully the level of wickedness in your own heart, you would run away with your head hanging low.

If every thought you ever had, and every word you ever said, and every deed you ever did was written in a book for all to read, including yourself.......you'd run away, change your identity with the attempts to cover your own shame, depravity and wretchedness. You are completely depraved.

This is the truth, and your righteousness is filthy rags compared to Christ.

If you are honest hearted, you will agree with my statements. If you don't, then you're not honestly evaluating your own heart. We are all as I described above, every one of us including myself.

Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees was Jesus's warnings to us all. What is the leaven He spoke us? Self- righteousness.


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So by telling me I'm pointing fingers you are doing the same and all the while ignoring the real issue here.

I would expect you Lisa to understand the point here and the need to expose evil and corruption as commanded by God.

Homosexuality is EVIL no matter how much people want it to be otherwise, and I will continue to fight against the Devil and sin for as long as I have breath.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Brother, you didn't address what I wrote above, but only attempted to defend yourself.

Please address my post above.

And know that I'm not trying to hurt you.
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I already addressed it in previous posts. We are all sinners but we should also eschew evil, rebuke, exhort, and reprove with all longsuffering and doctrine.
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26

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