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For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against homosexuality etc...

 
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Children of Islam,

There is a Jew behind me!

Come and kill the Jew!
 Quoting: IAMIAM


What's wrong with you? Why are you now quoting the Koran?
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Just marking you for judgement.

Don't mind me.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


I posted this thread against Homosexuality not singling out (judging) any specific person and yet you keep posting statements about judging yet you yourself are apparently doing the very thing you accuse me of.
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I warned you to repent of your own sins.

You refuse.

So yes, you are marked.
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What's wrong with you? Why are you now quoting the Koran?
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Just marking you for judgement.

Don't mind me.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


I posted this thread against Homosexuality not singling out (judging) any specific person and yet you keep posting statements about judging yet you yourself are apparently doing the very thing you accuse me of.
 Quoting: Veresanctus



I warned you to repent of your own sins.

You refuse.

So yes, you are marked.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


I repent of my sins continually. Again you are mistaken about me
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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I repent of my sins continually. Again you are mistaken about me
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Silly lion, if you repent it means that you are aware of what is sinful and do NOT do it again.

If I sleep with your wife, repent, then sleep with your wife again and again and again, would you believe that I had repented.

No worries, you are marked.

It is done.

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Is there not anyone but a couple people here that agrees with this scripture?
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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Is there not anyone but a couple people here that agrees with this scripture?
 Quoting: Veresanctus


I agree with you that it's a sin, there is no doubt about that.

But, you're forgetting about Jesus as the Lord of mercy and forgiveness for all who call on His name.

I don't believe in pointing out the sins of others on a public forum, especially those who might be struggling to find Christ that might be homosexuals or have homosexual tenancies. I think this kind of thread only serves to push them farther away from the Lord.

Nobody is perfect, I struggle with my own sins, and so do you and everyone else on this planet. I say focus on Jesus and His death on the cross instead of pointing fingers at other sinners.

hf
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Is there not anyone but a couple people here that agrees with this scripture?
 Quoting: Veresanctus


When you know who is behind it, and a grasp of it's purpose. There is nothing to agree with.

It is a manipulative tool written by beings who have not got your best interests in mind.
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I repent of my sins continually. Again you are mistaken about me
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Silly lion, if you repent it means that you are aware of what is sinful and do NOT do it again.

If I sleep with your wife, repent, then sleep with your wife again and again and again, would you believe that I had repented.

No worries, you are marked.

It is done.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


Repenting means nothing without restitution.
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Clearly God thinks men buttfucking each other is worse than murder.
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why? murder is on the same list.
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I repent of my sins continually. Again you are mistaken about me
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Silly lion, if you repent it means that you are aware of what is sinful and do NOT do it again.

If I sleep with your wife, repent, then sleep with your wife again and again and again, would you believe that I had repented.

No worries, you are marked.

It is done.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


Repenting means nothing without restitution.
 Quoting: YankeeRose555


If an account was made of all the sins done in this world by each Man, not one would be able to pay his debt.

Jesus paid that debt, thus there is no restitution owed except from him who rejects the offering and continues to judge others for their offenses.


21Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? 22Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

23Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants. 24And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents. 25But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made. 26The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. 27Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt. 28But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest. 29And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. 30And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt. 31So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done. 32Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me: 33Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee? 34And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him. 35So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

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I repent of my sins continually. Again you are mistaken about me
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Silly lion, if you repent it means that you are aware of what is sinful and do NOT do it again.

If I sleep with your wife, repent, then sleep with your wife again and again and again, would you believe that I had repented.

No worries, you are marked.

It is done.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


Repenting means nothing without restitution.
 Quoting: YankeeRose555


If an account was made of all the sins done in this world by each Man, not one would be able to pay his debt.

Jesus paid that debt, thus there is no restitution owed except from him who rejects the offering and continues to judge others for their offenses.


21Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? 22Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

23Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants. 24And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents. 25But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made. 26The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. 27Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt. 28But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest. 29And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. 30And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt. 31So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done. 32Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me: 33Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee? 34And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him. 35So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

 Quoting: IAMIAM


Well, I'm not a Christian, so this is how I view it.
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Silly lion, if you repent it means that you are aware of what is sinful and do NOT do it again.

If I sleep with your wife, repent, then sleep with your wife again and again and again, would you believe that I had repented.

No worries, you are marked.

It is done.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


Repenting means nothing without restitution.
 Quoting: YankeeRose555


If an account was made of all the sins done in this world by each Man, not one would be able to pay his debt.

Jesus paid that debt, thus there is no restitution owed except from him who rejects the offering and continues to judge others for their offenses.


21Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? 22Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

23Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants. 24And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents. 25But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made. 26The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. 27Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt. 28But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest. 29And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. 30And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt. 31So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done. 32Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me: 33Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee? 34And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him. 35So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

 Quoting: IAMIAM


Well, I'm not a Christian, so this is how I view it.
 Quoting: YankeeRose555


I am not a Christian either.

Why are you entering into a discussion of sin if you are not Christian?
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Is there not anyone but a couple people here that agrees with this scripture?
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I agree with you that it's a sin, there is no doubt about that.

But, you're forgetting about Jesus as the Lord of mercy and forgiveness for all who call on His name.

I don't believe in pointing out the sins of others on a public forum, especially those who might be struggling to find Christ that might be homosexuals or have homosexual tenancies. I think this kind of thread only serves to push them farther away from the Lord.

Nobody is perfect, I struggle with my own sins, and so do you and everyone else on this planet. I say focus on Jesus and His death on the cross instead of pointing fingers at other sinners.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


If you are promoting and pushing for acceptance of homosexuality trying to get it included as marriage that is not struggling with it, that is embracing it.

Again, I am not speaking against any one person who is struggling with sin. All Christians struggle with sin and constantly turn from it and resist it.

It seems to me there are many people here that are confused as to what I am saying and the point of this topic.

Last Edited by Veresanctus on 03/29/2013 04:33 PM
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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Is there not anyone but a couple people here that agrees with this scripture?
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I agree with you that it's a sin, there is no doubt about that.

But, you're forgetting about Jesus as the Lord of mercy and forgiveness for all who call on His name.

I don't believe in pointing out the sins of others on a public forum, especially those who might be struggling to find Christ that might be homosexuals or have homosexual tenancies. I think this kind of thread only serves to push them farther away from the Lord.

Nobody is perfect, I struggle with my own sins, and so do you and everyone else on this planet. I say focus on Jesus and His death on the cross instead of pointing fingers at other sinners.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


If you are promoting and pushing for acceptance of homosexuality trying to get it included as marriage that is not struggling with it, that is embracing it.

Again, I am not speaking against any one person who is struggling with sin. All Christians struggle with sin and constantly turn from it and resist it.

It seems to me there are many people that are confused as to what I am saying here and the point of this topic.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


I'm not pushing for gay marriage at all, that is a political issue. I am not involved in politics at all.

Hate the sin, but love the sinner.
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Is there not anyone but a couple people here that agrees with this scripture?
 Quoting: Veresanctus


I agree with you that it's a sin, there is no doubt about that.

But, you're forgetting about Jesus as the Lord of mercy and forgiveness for all who call on His name.

I don't believe in pointing out the sins of others on a public forum, especially those who might be struggling to find Christ that might be homosexuals or have homosexual tenancies. I think this kind of thread only serves to push them farther away from the Lord.

Nobody is perfect, I struggle with my own sins, and so do you and everyone else on this planet. I say focus on Jesus and His death on the cross instead of pointing fingers at other sinners.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


If you are promoting and pushing for acceptance of homosexuality trying to get it included as marriage that is not struggling with it, that is embracing it.

Again, I am not speaking against any one person who is struggling with sin. All Christians struggle with sin and constantly turn from it and resist it.

It seems to me there are many people that are confused as to what I am saying here and the point of this topic.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


What you are choosing to not see is that everyone is NOT Christian or Jew or Muslim.

Therefore you cannot say what marriage entails across the board.

If you are Jew, keep the commandments of Moses, if you are Christian keep the commandments of Jesus, if you are Muslim keep the commandments of Allah.

But, if though wilt enter in to the Kingdom of God, do not marry at all.
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Clearly God thinks men buttfucking each other is worse than murder.
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God singles out certain types of sinners for special
consideration:

REVELATION 21
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things;
and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

8 But the fearful,
and unbelieving,
and the abominable,(homosexuals)
and murderers,
and whoremongers,
and sorcerers,(pharmakeia - i.e. drug addicts)
and idolaters,(witches and all other idol worshippers)
and all liars,
shall have their part in the lake
which burneth with fire and brimstone:
which is the second death.



All people guilty of these sins can be forgiven and
washed white as snow by the Blood of Christ,
but unrepentant sinners, like these named are doomed
and damned.
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Re: For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against homosexuality etc...
Clearly God thinks men buttfucking each other is worse than murder.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4423791


God singles out certain types of sinners for special
consideration:

REVELATION 21
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things;
and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

8 But the fearful,
and unbelieving,
and the abominable,(homosexuals)
and murderers,
and whoremongers,
and sorcerers,(pharmakeia - i.e. drug addicts)
and idolaters,(witches and all other idol worshippers)
and all liars,
shall have their part in the lake
which burneth with fire and brimstone:
which is the second death.



All people guilty of these sins can be forgiven and
washed white as snow by the Blood of Christ,
but unrepentant sinners, like these named are doomed
and damned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37082504


What did you not understand about this warning?

18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

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I repent of my sins continually. Again you are mistaken about me
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Silly lion, if you repent it means that you are aware of what is sinful and do NOT do it again.

If I sleep with your wife, repent, then sleep with your wife again and again and again, would you believe that I had repented.

No worries, you are marked.

It is done.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


I can repent a millions times and it's still repenting. If I were to sin and feel bad and turn away from that sin (repent) but yet do it again at some later time I am in battle with sin (all born-again Christians are) and i'm constantly repenting of it.

According to Websters dictionary...

Repent
RE'PENT, a. [L. repo, to creep.] Creeping; as a repent root.

REPENT', v.i. [L. re and paeniteo, from paena, pain. Gr. See Paint.]

1. To feel pain, sorrow or regret for something done or spoken; as, to repent that we have lost much time in idleness or sensual pleasure; to repent that we have injured or wounded the feelings of a friend. A person repents only of what he himself has done or said.

2. To express sorrow for something past.

Enobarbus did before thy face repent.

3. To change the mind in consequence of the inconvenience or injury done by past conduct.

Lest peradventure the people repent when they see war, and they return. Exo 13.

4. Applied to the Supreme Being, to change the course of providential dealings. Gen 6. Psa 106.

5. In theology, to sorrow or be pained for sin, as a violation of God's holy law, a dishonor to his character and government, and the foulest ingratitude to a Being of infinite benevolence.

Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Luke 13. Acts 3.
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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I repent of my sins continually. Again you are mistaken about me
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Silly lion, if you repent it means that you are aware of what is sinful and do NOT do it again.

If I sleep with your wife, repent, then sleep with your wife again and again and again, would you believe that I had repented.

No worries, you are marked.

It is done.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


I can repent a millions times and it's still repenting. If I were to sin and feel bad and turn away from that sin (repent) but yet do it again at some later time I am in battle with sin (all born-again Christians are) and i'm constantly repenting of it.

According to Websters dictionary...
 Quoting: Veresanctus


According to Jesus...

31Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 33They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

34Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. 35And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. 36If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. 37I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. 38I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

39They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. 40But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.



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Clearly God thinks men buttfucking each other is worse than murder.
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God singles out certain types of sinners for special
consideration:

REVELATION 21
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things;
and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

8 But the fearful,
and unbelieving,
and the abominable,(homosexuals)
and murderers,
and whoremongers,
and sorcerers,(pharmakeia - i.e. drug addicts)
and idolaters,(witches and all other idol worshippers)
and all liars,
shall have their part in the lake
which burneth with fire and brimstone:
which is the second death.



All people guilty of these sins can be forgiven and
washed white as snow by the Blood of Christ,
but unrepentant sinners, like these named are doomed
and damned.
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You included your own personal interpretation in quotes. So let's look a little deeper into the greek words and get the real accurate meaning of those words.


The "abominable"....the original word used was the greek word ebdelygmenois. Strongs definition of that word is literally this: I abhor, detest, loathe. No further information is given.

The next word you translated into quotes is "sorcerers". The greek word for that is pharmakois. Strongs definition of that word is literally this: a magician, sorcerer. It does not mean "drug addicts" but rather a sorcerer that uses magic potions. 5333 phármakos – properly, a sorcerer; used of people using drugs and "religious incantations" to drug people into living by their illusions – like having magical (supernatural) powers to manipulate God into giving them more temporal possessions.

People really need to do the homework and dig into these things a little deeper because it is very important.

When the original greek and hebrew was translated into english, not all the words came across as they were originally intended.

Now again, I am not saying that homosexuality is not a sin, it is. But, so is pride, hate, jealousy, envy........so many can't even list them all.
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"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger."


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I repent of my sins continually. Again you are mistaken about me
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Silly lion, if you repent it means that you are aware of what is sinful and do NOT do it again.

If I sleep with your wife, repent, then sleep with your wife again and again and again, would you believe that I had repented.

No worries, you are marked.

It is done.
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I can repent a millions times and it's still repenting. If I were to sin and feel bad and turn away from that sin (repent) but yet do it again at some later time I am in battle with sin (all born-again Christians are) and i'm constantly repenting of it.

According to Websters dictionary...
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According to Jesus...

31Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 33They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

34Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. 35And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. 36If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. 37I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. 38I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

39They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. 40But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.



You are lion again.
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Since you have been incorrect in countering me since your counters are based on straw-man arguments the only thing I can think of that you are trying to point out is that committing sin is serving sin.

Well, read this from bible commentaries to try and help you understand...

"Whosoever committeth sin" — that is, liveth in the commission of it - (Compare 1Jo_3:8; Mat_7:23).
(jamieson, fausset, and brown)

"whosoever committeth sin, is the servant of sin; which must be understood, not of one that commits a single act of sin, though ever so gross, as did Noah, Lot, David, Peter, and others, who yet were not the servants of sin; or of such who sin through ignorance, weakness of the flesh, and the power of Satan's temptations, and especially who commit sin with reluctance, the spirit lusting against it; nor indeed of any regenerate persons, though they are not without sin; nor do they live without the commission of it, in thought, word, or deed; and though they fall into it, they do not continue and live in it, but rise up out of it, through the grace of God, and by true repentance; and so are not to be reckoned the servants of sin, or to be of the devil. But this is to be understood of such whose bias and bent of their minds are to sin; who give up themselves unto it, and sell themselves to work wickedness; who make sin their trade, business, and employment, and are properly workers of it, and take delight and pleasure in it: these, whatever liberty, they promise themselves, are the servants of corruption; they are under the government of sin, that has dominion over them; and they obey it in the lusts thereof, and are drudges and slaves unto it, and will have no other wages at last but death, even eternal death, if grace prevent not; see Rom_6:16." - (John Gill)
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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Since you have been incorrect in countering me since your counters are based on straw-man arguments the only thing I can think of that you are trying to point out is that committing sin is serving sin.

Well, read this from bible commentaries to try and help you understand...
 Quoting: Veresanctus



"Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." - (2 Timothy 4:2-4 KJV)
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Clearly God thinks men buttfucking each other is worse than murder.
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God singles out certain types of sinners for special
consideration:

REVELATION 21
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things;
and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

8 But the fearful,
and unbelieving,
and the abominable,(homosexuals)
and murderers,
and whoremongers,
and sorcerers,(pharmakeia - i.e. drug addicts)
and idolaters,(witches and all other idol worshippers)
and all liars,
shall have their part in the lake
which burneth with fire and brimstone:
which is the second death.



All people guilty of these sins can be forgiven and
washed white as snow by the Blood of Christ,
but unrepentant sinners, like these named are doomed
and damned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37082504


You included your own personal interpretation in quotes. So let's look a little deeper into the greek words and get the real accurate meaning of those words.


The "abominable"....the original word used was the greek word ebdelygmenois. Strongs definition of that word is literally this: I abhor, detest, loathe. No further information is given.

The next word you translated into quotes is "sorcerers". The greek word for that is pharmakois. Strongs definition of that word is literally this: a magician, sorcerer. It does not mean "drug addicts" but rather a sorcerer that uses magic potions. 5333 phármakos – properly, a sorcerer; used of people using drugs and "religious incantations" to drug people into living by their illusions – like having magical (supernatural) powers to manipulate God into giving them more temporal possessions.

People really need to do the homework and dig into these things a little deeper because it is very important.

When the original greek and hebrew was translated into english, not all the words came across as they were originally intended.

Now again, I am not saying that homosexuality is not a sin, it is. But, so is pride, hate, jealousy, envy........so many can't even list them all.
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John Gill's commentary says...
Leviticus 18:22
Thou shall not lie with mankind as with womankind,.... By carnal knowledge of them, and carnal copulation with them, and mixing bodies in like manner: this is the sin commonly called sodomy, from the inhabitants of Sodom, greatly addicted to it, for which their city was destroyed by fire: those that are guilty of this sin, are, by the apostle, called "abusers of themselves with mankind", 1Co_6:9,

it is abomination; it is so to God, as the above instance of his vengeance shows, and ought to be abominable to men, as being not only contrary to the law of God, but even contrary to nature itself, and what is never to be observed among brute creatures.

It's not just a sin but a horrible terrible make you sick kind of sin. Some sins are worse than others and some are unto death and some are not.


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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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John Gills commentary says...

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"Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." - (2 Timothy 4:2-4 KJV)


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"Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." - (2 Timothy 4:2-4 KJV)


laugh
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The very thing you keep quoting actually applies to you since you said you don't even believe Paul.
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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"Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name: Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ: To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world. For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers; Making request, if by any means now at length I might have a prosperous journey by the will of God to come unto you. For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established; That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith both of you and me. Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles. I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians; both to the wise, and to the unwise. So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." -- (Romans Chapter 1 verses 1-32 KJV)

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God does not have wrath. He does not yell out in heaven. Just the bible is all lies and full of hate, predudice and narrow mindedness.
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"Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." - (2 Timothy 4:2-4 KJV)


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The very thing you keep quoting actually applies to you since you said you don't even believe Paul.
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Simple rule: If it don't say "Jesus said" it ain't the Truth.
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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Im starting to love the bible more and more.
While muslims at least understand what Jihad means, christians follow none of their beliefs.
So basically God ensured that they were free to do to me what he wanted to do to them.

Tit for tat between christians and God.
God won.
I was sacrificed, it created a mess in Muslim lands.
I wish to concentrate on what is going on in Muslim lands to be honest. Very hard for me to grasp what happened exactly apart from Gods war with Christians.
Americans would never have done that to me, after killing me once they would have left me alone, not this lot my God!
When I think about what they did to me its baffles me, can you believe they did what they did to me?
Christians dont believe God is watching, they have been so used to manipulating everyone and everything that they went ahead and did it to me, incredible lesson in white trash christian mentality.
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Paul never knew Jesus.

Paul aka Saul, was rejected by Christ and all others in the Church of the Nazarene.

Stop perpetuating lies.
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