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What Should A Nations Top Priority Be, Capitalism Or Full Employment For Its Citizens?

 
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03/29/2013 12:54 PM
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What Should A Nations Top Priority Be, Capitalism Or Full Employment For Its Citizens?
This is the question that will separate the Citizens from the Vulture Capitalist who doesn't have a country.
beeches

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03/29/2013 01:00 PM

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Your question makes no sense to me.

Capitalism provides far more jobs than socialism or communism.

If you want all citizens "employed"

you are really seeking state-supported slavery.




in a free country, some people will always be unemployed, just like some will be sick, or moving, or just married, or whatever.


real life: I knew a girl named Manuela in East Berlin. She was not a follower of communism and said so.
Her "employment" was in an office. She made pennies a day.

But yeah, she was employed....by their statistics.

Let me add that she was a well-trained dancer, ballet and other forms of dance, so forcing her to work in an office for pennies a day

was a form of punishment.

Of course, you would never support anything like this ....or would you?
Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell
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03/29/2013 01:12 PM
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Obviously there are enough people living off the taxpayer that the leeches outnumber the host. Illegal immigrants are getting $10,000 - $20,000 tax "refunds" for nieces and nephews living in Mexico or that may not even exist. These parasites should be doing something productive rather than doing what they do destroying the nation.
I say either you work in the current system and are able to make a decent living at it because you are no longer paying for other people's food, housing, kids, etc. I also say that your tax dollars should not be going to corporate welfare in essence paying your boss to let you work, or "bailing out" banks that burn you with usurious interest rates while taking your money.
Somethings gotta give.
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03/29/2013 01:12 PM
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The top priority should be protecting personal and property rights and contractual obligations. Nothing else is necessary and in fact just causes harm and stunts human potential and growth.
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03/29/2013 01:15 PM
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It's not the states role to create jobs, it's the states role to provide the framework for people to create their own opportunities and jobs.
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03/29/2013 01:17 PM

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It's not the states role to create jobs, it's the states role to provide the framework for people to create their own opportunities and jobs.
 Quoting: The Scientist


hf

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Depends on whether you are being theoretical or practical. The reality now is millions of baby mamas with 7 or 8 different baby daddies and "11 million" (try closer to 20-some) illegals being given a living off the working man's back. Plus corporate welfare and Wall Street & bank bailouts. It is simply not sustainable. Everybody is going to have to make provisions for their own survival and do some work to earn your keep or die. Getting laid as often as possible to make babies should not be a career.
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03/29/2013 01:32 PM
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What you have in America is called Monopoly Capitalism, free trade is myth in that country.

You allow corporations to influence your government, thus destroying any chance of economic growth outside of the monopoly capitalists. The rich get richer, the poor & middle class are squashed like bugs.

In other words, when you shop at Wal-Mart, you may as well be shopping inside the DC Capitol.

Until you fix your Corporatocracy and keep business's out of your government, your fucked.

Look into Anarcho-Capitalism philosophy, there's your answer. Unfortunately American's are too stupid and think they need daddy government to take care of their every whim and pass 'laws' that they too stupid to realize hurt them. Yes, the government is Wal-Mart, Big Oil, Big Banks, WallStreet, etc.

Enjoying your discount, slave?

Comprende?

Last Edited by Quadro on 03/29/2013 01:33 PM
"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws" — Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild


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03/29/2013 01:32 PM
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Umm, I don't think it should be either. The efforts of the country should be put towards a paradigm of true freedom and integrity, one where everybody find's their own niche in society, and the governing entity isn't really looked upon to create restrictive laws. In fact the idea of a country is restricting in itself. We give our responsibility as sovereign human beings willingly to entities that govern us. I think it's time we grew up and governed our individual selves. Obviously, this paradigm only works if everyone lives with integrity and morality, with no service to self type behavior.
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03/29/2013 01:34 PM
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In fact money should not be a necessity. All the necessities of basic life should be provided for, people should not have to struggle to obtain clean and pure food or water.
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Also, just want to add that there must be full transparency in all dealings.
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Full employment.
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03/29/2013 03:32 PM
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The state's role should be to ensure the relationships between employers and employees are fair.
For example, the minimum wage should not doom workers to poverty.
For example, in times when part-time/casual work is mainly on offer, workers shouldn't get penalized so heavily with taxes through having a second job.
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Full employment. With full employment there will be no need for welfare and that money can be redirected to the elderly and infirmed.





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