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If god truly created a being and let him take over the planet where his most prized creations had just been created than i wouldn't want to meet him. That god would be an evil psychopathic ego driven monster who demands worship in order to be saved from a being he created when he could easily destroy satan or banish him to another universe.

HE did, but not to "take over the planet" rather tend a garden on a planet. Does a black hole demand worship? Or respect… this is worship. HE does not demand. HE "loves" satan as well.

Ooooh but he sacrificed himself for my sins right. Bullshit, he is god, he knew full well that he would not die upon mortal death so how is that a sacrifice? Because he went through a little pain? Big fucking deal people get mauled by tigers everyday...

HE sent a message so that you could be back in the garden, outside of delusion. To tend it as you did before… or are meant to. the Christ realized throughout his time who HE was. It it a small part of the whole that HE suffered physical pain...

Plus if you believe in the original story of adam and eve then you believe that we are all inbred mutants... if you believe that adam and eve were only two of many different first humans than you believe that onlly genetic ancestors are born with original sin...

Those exiled from the garden into the world, are the descendants.
A product of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil is cause and effect. We need to eat to maintain our bodies outside of the garden. This is sin.


You also believe that we are the descendants of noah and his family... there were less than 15 humans on board... you also believe that literally every species of animal on earth are the product of incest since noah only saved 2 of each...

The math works on Noahs progeny, there are many stories found in many cultures of the flood, your interpretation is biased "christian" ideology. Who can say how it truly happened and what was omitted and included in the writings.

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So tend the garden by tricking humans into sinning? God knowingly created satan and banished him to earth in order to take all the souls who don't worship him to eternal suffering?

Satan seduced man, they had free will as did satan. Satan can not take anything that is not his to start with. Who knows what hell is but it is decrease. God saved man from satan. It is unclear what banish means regarding satan

What do you mean only those exiled from the garden are descendants? Wouldn't that be all of humanity since adam and eve were the first humans on earth?

There are two stories of creation in genesis, one of the world and man, followed by the garden and adam, check it out its cool.

It would still be incest at some point amongst every species on the planet...

In this context the incest goes away. There was some in Noah, or shared genes from the fathers. Not uncommon in those times.

So you are admitting that this story in the bible might just be an exaggeration and might not be true?

The bible is composite this is why there are four gospels or accounts of the Christ. Many versions of the end of time. Together they form a picture or align. The entire bible is like this and must be read as such. The truth in it aligns with truth in history, science and nature. Only many read what they want to, as in everything else.

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You said "HE did, but not to "take over the planet" rather tend a garden on a planet." so therefore you believe that god did in fact create satan and banish him to earth in order to filter humanity correct?

God created satan for HIS pleasure (it means dont know why), to filter humanity is an assumption that I would not make.

What do you mean the incest goes away?

There were other people in the world besides Eve and Adam.

So is it literal or fictional? It cant be both...
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A parable is a story, an account is a observers opinion therefore it is both.

Did you read genesis, you should as the bible is a cool read, you might actually have your own opinion on the subject as opposed to that of others.
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Like I said before I grew up in the Christian church I have read the bible...
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So tend the garden by tricking humans into sinning? God knowingly created satan and banished him to earth in order to take all the souls who don't worship him to eternal suffering?

Satan seduced man, they had free will as did satan. Satan can not take anything that is not his to start with. Who knows what hell is but it is decrease. God saved man from satan. It is unclear what banish means regarding satan

What do you mean only those exiled from the garden are descendants? Wouldn't that be all of humanity since adam and eve were the first humans on earth?

There are two stories of creation in genesis, one of the world and man, followed by the garden and adam, check it out its cool.

It would still be incest at some point amongst every species on the planet...

In this context the incest goes away. There was some in Noah, or shared genes from the fathers. Not uncommon in those times.

So you are admitting that this story in the bible might just be an exaggeration and might not be true?

The bible is composite this is why there are four gospels or accounts of the Christ. Many versions of the end of time. Together they form a picture or align. The entire bible is like this and must be read as such. The truth in it aligns with truth in history, science and nature. Only many read what they want to, as in everything else.

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You said "HE did, but not to "take over the planet" rather tend a garden on a planet." so therefore you believe that god did in fact create satan and banish him to earth in order to filter humanity correct?

God created satan for HIS pleasure (it means dont know why), to filter humanity is an assumption that I would not make.

What do you mean the incest goes away?

There were other people in the world besides Eve and Adam.

So is it literal or fictional? It cant be both...
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A parable is a story, an account is a observers opinion therefore it is both.

Did you read genesis, you should as the bible is a cool read, you might actually have your own opinion on the subject as opposed to that of others.
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Like I said before I grew up in the Christian church I have read the bible...
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Great! If you would like to revisit the the creation story and discuss, lets and we can see what is truth outside of any delusion in any form. Truth is truth and aligns with itself. The kingdom of heaven is beyond delusion, yoked to truth. The yeast of the pharisees is a little lie that perverts the whole yet the whole is truth and delusion needs to be weeded out. The Christ brought not peace but the sword, razor sharp cutting to the bone and marrow. It is due to mans fear and corrupt image of self wherein only that delusion has substance. We can test the bible if you wish and put away the dung that is false… or evil, or corrupt data separating man from true self and knowledge of the HIM that is beyond creation.

If not thats cool, as everthing matters... but not that much... in the end. And the end is nigh... or near to, in time and space.
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you also believe that literally every species of animal on earth are the product of incest since noah only saved 2 of each...
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And a 900 foot boat had enough water/food for a zillion animals for 40 days.

lol
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It would really only have to be 2 of every "useful" animal [domesticable maybe?] from the region where Noah lived?

Mankind hadn't been scattered all over the earth yet , so the flood could have been only where the people were ,it seems to me. -JUst my own thoughts. Don't blame anyone else, please.
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Because they are not intelligent points.
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Okay well can you please atleast try. It should be easy since they arent intelligent points.
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If god truly created a being and let him take over the planet where his most prized creations had just been created than i wouldn't want to meet him. That god would be an evil psychopathic ego driven monster who demands worship in order to be saved from a being he created when he could easily destroy satan or banish him to another universe.

HE did, but not to "take over the planet" rather tend a garden on a planet. Does a black hole demand worship? Or respect… this is worship. HE does not demand. HE "loves" satan as well.

Ooooh but he sacrificed himself for my sins right. Bullshit, he is god, he knew full well that he would not die upon mortal death so how is that a sacrifice? Because he went through a little pain? Big fucking deal people get mauled by tigers everyday...

HE sent a message so that you could be back in the garden, outside of delusion. To tend it as you did before… or are meant to. the Christ realized throughout his time who HE was. It it a small part of the whole that HE suffered physical pain...

Plus if you believe in the original story of adam and eve then you believe that we are all inbred mutants... if you believe that adam and eve were only two of many different first humans than you believe that onlly genetic ancestors are born with original sin...

Those exiled from the garden into the world, are the descendants.
A product of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil is cause and effect. We need to eat to maintain our bodies outside of the garden. This is sin.


You also believe that we are the descendants of noah and his family... there were less than 15 humans on board... you also believe that literally every species of animal on earth are the product of incest since noah only saved 2 of each...

The math works on Noahs progeny, there are many stories found in many cultures of the flood, your interpretation is biased "christian" ideology. Who can say how it truly happened and what was omitted and included in the writings.

 Quoting: M1.618


So tend the garden by tricking humans into sinning? God knowingly created satan and banished him to earth in order to take all the souls who don't worship him to eternal suffering?

What do you mean only those exiled from the garden are descendants? Wouldn't that be all of humanity since adam and eve were the first humans on earth?

It would still be incest at some point amongst every species on the planet...
So you are admitting that this story in the bible might just be an exaggeration and might not be true?
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satan wasn't banished to earth. As is said on GLP many times a day and maybe on this thread already, He didn't create Satan ["opposer"], Satan created himself by opposing.
Adam and Eve weren't tricked, b/c "Adam was not deceived". I don't even pretend I know what you're talking about with "incest". Created perfect= therefore no problem inbreeding at first. Only later was incest law necessary.
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heck this out.
only 5 min. really sums it up.
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I feel sorry for that guy. I would be devastated if I found myself stuck with a guy talking and talking to me about Jesus. Poor black man.
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Okay well can you please atleast try. It should be easy since they arent intelligent points.
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If god truly created a being and let him take over the planet where his most prized creations had just been created than i wouldn't want to meet him. That god would be an evil psychopathic ego driven monster who demands worship in order to be saved from a being he created when he could easily destroy satan or banish him to another universe.

HE did, but not to "take over the planet" rather tend a garden on a planet. Does a black hole demand worship? Or respect… this is worship. HE does not demand. HE "loves" satan as well.

Ooooh but he sacrificed himself for my sins right. Bullshit, he is god, he knew full well that he would not die upon mortal death so how is that a sacrifice? Because he went through a little pain? Big fucking deal people get mauled by tigers everyday...

HE sent a message so that you could be back in the garden, outside of delusion. To tend it as you did before… or are meant to. the Christ realized throughout his time who HE was. It it a small part of the whole that HE suffered physical pain...

Plus if you believe in the original story of adam and eve then you believe that we are all inbred mutants... if you believe that adam and eve were only two of many different first humans than you believe that onlly genetic ancestors are born with original sin...

Those exiled from the garden into the world, are the descendants.
A product of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil is cause and effect. We need to eat to maintain our bodies outside of the garden. This is sin.


You also believe that we are the descendants of noah and his family... there were less than 15 humans on board... you also believe that literally every species of animal on earth are the product of incest since noah only saved 2 of each...

The math works on Noahs progeny, there are many stories found in many cultures of the flood, your interpretation is biased "christian" ideology. Who can say how it truly happened and what was omitted and included in the writings.

 Quoting: M1.618


So tend the garden by tricking humans into sinning? God knowingly created satan and banished him to earth in order to take all the souls who don't worship him to eternal suffering?

What do you mean only those exiled from the garden are descendants? Wouldn't that be all of humanity since adam and eve were the first humans on earth?

It would still be incest at some point amongst every species on the planet...
So you are admitting that this story in the bible might just be an exaggeration and might not be true?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36982934


satan wasn't banished to earth. As is said on GLP many times a day and maybe on this thread already, He didn't create Satan ["opposer"], Satan created himself by opposing.
Adam and Eve weren't tricked, b/c "Adam was not deceived". I don't even pretend I know what you're talking about with "incest". Created perfect= therefore no problem inbreeding at first. Only later was incest law necessary.
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"Adam and Eve weren't tricked, b/c "Adam was not deceived"" please explain what you mean? you have interested me.
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you also believe that literally every species of animal on earth are the product of incest since noah only saved 2 of each...
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And a 900 foot boat had enough water/food for a zillion animals for 40 days.

lol
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It would really only have to be 2 of every "useful" animal [domesticable maybe?] from the region where Noah lived?

Mankind hadn't been scattered all over the earth yet , so the flood could have been only where the people were ,it seems to me. -JUst my own thoughts. Don't blame anyone else, please.
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Um what? It would have to include two of every animal, bug and anything else that cannot breath saltwater...
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Okay well can you please atleast try. It should be easy since they arent intelligent points.
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If god truly created a being and let him take over the planet where his most prized creations had just been created than i wouldn't want to meet him. That god would be an evil psychopathic ego driven monster who demands worship in order to be saved from a being he created when he could easily destroy satan or banish him to another universe.

HE did, but not to "take over the planet" rather tend a garden on a planet. Does a black hole demand worship? Or respect… this is worship. HE does not demand. HE "loves" satan as well.

Ooooh but he sacrificed himself for my sins right. Bullshit, he is god, he knew full well that he would not die upon mortal death so how is that a sacrifice? Because he went through a little pain? Big fucking deal people get mauled by tigers everyday...

HE sent a message so that you could be back in the garden, outside of delusion. To tend it as you did before… or are meant to. the Christ realized throughout his time who HE was. It it a small part of the whole that HE suffered physical pain...

Plus if you believe in the original story of adam and eve then you believe that we are all inbred mutants... if you believe that adam and eve were only two of many different first humans than you believe that onlly genetic ancestors are born with original sin...

Those exiled from the garden into the world, are the descendants.
A product of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil is cause and effect. We need to eat to maintain our bodies outside of the garden. This is sin.


You also believe that we are the descendants of noah and his family... there were less than 15 humans on board... you also believe that literally every species of animal on earth are the product of incest since noah only saved 2 of each...

The math works on Noahs progeny, there are many stories found in many cultures of the flood, your interpretation is biased "christian" ideology. Who can say how it truly happened and what was omitted and included in the writings.

 Quoting: M1.618


So tend the garden by tricking humans into sinning? God knowingly created satan and banished him to earth in order to take all the souls who don't worship him to eternal suffering?

What do you mean only those exiled from the garden are descendants? Wouldn't that be all of humanity since adam and eve were the first humans on earth?

It would still be incest at some point amongst every species on the planet...
So you are admitting that this story in the bible might just be an exaggeration and might not be true?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36982934


satan wasn't banished to earth. As is said on GLP many times a day and maybe on this thread already, He didn't create Satan ["opposer"], Satan created himself by opposing.
Adam and Eve weren't tricked, b/c "Adam was not deceived". I don't even pretend I know what you're talking about with "incest". Created perfect= therefore no problem inbreeding at first. Only later was incest law necessary.
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So you are saying god did not create the angel Lucifer? If god is all knowing than he would have seen the rebellion of Lucifer and the other fallen angels before creating them...

So incest had no negative effects back then? Haha how can anyone with a brain make those kind of statements?! its fucking crazy to me how insane you people are, you have no clue what anything was like back then... All you know is what Constantine deemed acceptable in 325 AD broseph.
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If god truly created a being and let him take over the planet where his most prized creations had just been created than i wouldn't want to meet him. That god would be an evil psychopathic ego driven monster who demands worship in order to be saved from a being he created when he could easily destroy satan or banish him to another universe.

Ooooh but he sacrificed himself for my sins right. Bullshit, he is god, he knew full well that he would not die upon mortal death so how is that a sacrifice? Because he went through a little pain? Big fucking deal people get mauled by tigers everyday...

Plus if you believe in the original story of adam and eve then you believe that we are all inbred mutants... if you believe that adam and eve were only two of many different first humans than you believe that onlly genetic ancestors are born with original sin...

You also believe that we are the descendants of noah and his family... there were less than 15 humans on board... you also believe that literally every species of animal on earth are the product of incest since noah only saved 2 of each...
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People are given symbols.

Symbols are misinterpreted because consciousness is attached to several psychological aggregates.

Why are we here? Where are we headed?
- ? Nus.

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you also believe that literally every species of animal on earth are the product of incest since noah only saved 2 of each...
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And a 900 foot boat had enough water/food for a zillion animals for 40 days.

lol
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It would really only have to be 2 of every "useful" animal [domesticable maybe?] from the region where Noah lived?

Mankind hadn't been scattered all over the earth yet , so the flood could have been only where the people were ,it seems to me. -JUst my own thoughts. Don't blame anyone else, please.
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well, your thoughts are incorrect, as mankind had spread across the entire globe as of Noah's time.

put down your bible and go do some reading...
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If god truly created a being and let him take over the planet where his most prized creations had just been created than i wouldn't want to meet him. That god would be an evil psychopathic ego driven monster who demands worship in order to be saved from a being he created when he could easily destroy satan or banish him to another universe.

HE did, but not to "take over the planet" rather tend a garden on a planet. Does a black hole demand worship? Or respect… this is worship. HE does not demand. HE "loves" satan as well.

Ooooh but he sacrificed himself for my sins right. Bullshit, he is god, he knew full well that he would not die upon mortal death so how is that a sacrifice? Because he went through a little pain? Big fucking deal people get mauled by tigers everyday...

HE sent a message so that you could be back in the garden, outside of delusion. To tend it as you did before… or are meant to. the Christ realized throughout his time who HE was. It it a small part of the whole that HE suffered physical pain...

Plus if you believe in the original story of adam and eve then you believe that we are all inbred mutants... if you believe that adam and eve were only two of many different first humans than you believe that onlly genetic ancestors are born with original sin...

Those exiled from the garden into the world, are the descendants.
A product of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil is cause and effect. We need to eat to maintain our bodies outside of the garden. This is sin.


You also believe that we are the descendants of noah and his family... there were less than 15 humans on board... you also believe that literally every species of animal on earth are the product of incest since noah only saved 2 of each...

The math works on Noahs progeny, there are many stories found in many cultures of the flood, your interpretation is biased "christian" ideology. Who can say how it truly happened and what was omitted and included in the writings.

 Quoting: M1.618


So tend the garden by tricking humans into sinning? God knowingly created satan and banished him to earth in order to take all the souls who don't worship him to eternal suffering?

What do you mean only those exiled from the garden are descendants? Wouldn't that be all of humanity since adam and eve were the first humans on earth?

It would still be incest at some point amongst every species on the planet...
So you are admitting that this story in the bible might just be an exaggeration and might not be true?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36982934


satan wasn't banished to earth. As is said on GLP many times a day and maybe on this thread already, He didn't create Satan ["opposer"], Satan created himself by opposing.
Adam and Eve weren't tricked, b/c "Adam was not deceived". I don't even pretend I know what you're talking about with "incest". Created perfect= therefore no problem inbreeding at first. Only later was incest law necessary.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10858311


So you are saying god did not create the angel Lucifer? If god is all knowing than he would have seen the rebellion of Lucifer and the other fallen angels before creating them...

So incest had no negative effects back then? Haha how can anyone with a brain make those kind of statements?! its fucking crazy to me how insane you people are, you have no clue what anything was like back then... All you know is what Constantine deemed acceptable in 325 AD broseph.
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it's almost unbearable to read this Council of Nicaea falsehood day after day, for instance. yak I literally think I might throw up right now, I'm so sick of reading this merde.
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If god truly created a being and let him take over the planet where his most prized creations had just been created than i wouldn't want to meet him. That god would be an evil psychopathic ego driven monster who demands worship in order to be saved from a being he created when he could easily destroy satan or banish him to another universe.

HE did, but not to "take over the planet" rather tend a garden on a planet. Does a black hole demand worship? Or respect… this is worship. HE does not demand. HE "loves" satan as well.

Ooooh but he sacrificed himself for my sins right. Bullshit, he is god, he knew full well that he would not die upon mortal death so how is that a sacrifice? Because he went through a little pain? Big fucking deal people get mauled by tigers everyday...

HE sent a message so that you could be back in the garden, outside of delusion. To tend it as you did before… or are meant to. the Christ realized throughout his time who HE was. It it a small part of the whole that HE suffered physical pain...

Plus if you believe in the original story of adam and eve then you believe that we are all inbred mutants... if you believe that adam and eve were only two of many different first humans than you believe that onlly genetic ancestors are born with original sin...

Those exiled from the garden into the world, are the descendants.
A product of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil is cause and effect. We need to eat to maintain our bodies outside of the garden. This is sin.


You also believe that we are the descendants of noah and his family... there were less than 15 humans on board... you also believe that literally every species of animal on earth are the product of incest since noah only saved 2 of each...

The math works on Noahs progeny, there are many stories found in many cultures of the flood, your interpretation is biased "christian" ideology. Who can say how it truly happened and what was omitted and included in the writings.

 Quoting: M1.618


So tend the garden by tricking humans into sinning? God knowingly created satan and banished him to earth in order to take all the souls who don't worship him to eternal suffering?

What do you mean only those exiled from the garden are descendants? Wouldn't that be all of humanity since adam and eve were the first humans on earth?

It would still be incest at some point amongst every species on the planet...
So you are admitting that this story in the bible might just be an exaggeration and might not be true?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36982934


satan wasn't banished to earth. As is said on GLP many times a day and maybe on this thread already, He didn't create Satan ["opposer"], Satan created himself by opposing.
Adam and Eve weren't tricked, b/c "Adam was not deceived". I don't even pretend I know what you're talking about with "incest". Created perfect= therefore no problem inbreeding at first. Only later was incest law necessary.
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"Adam and Eve weren't tricked, b/c "Adam was not deceived"" please explain what you mean? you have interested me.
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just mean this-

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1 Timothy 2:14 and Adam was not deceived, but the woman, having been deceived, into transgression came,
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So tend the garden by tricking humans into sinning? God knowingly created satan and banished him to earth in order to take all the souls who don't worship him to eternal suffering?

What do you mean only those exiled from the garden are descendants? Wouldn't that be all of humanity since adam and eve were the first humans on earth?

It would still be incest at some point amongst every species on the planet...
So you are admitting that this story in the bible might just be an exaggeration and might not be true?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36982934


satan wasn't banished to earth. As is said on GLP many times a day and maybe on this thread already, He didn't create Satan ["opposer"], Satan created himself by opposing.
Adam and Eve weren't tricked, b/c "Adam was not deceived". I don't even pretend I know what you're talking about with "incest". Created perfect= therefore no problem inbreeding at first. Only later was incest law necessary.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10858311


So you are saying god did not create the angel Lucifer? If god is all knowing than he would have seen the rebellion of Lucifer and the other fallen angels before creating them...

So incest had no negative effects back then? Haha how can anyone with a brain make those kind of statements?! its fucking crazy to me how insane you people are, you have no clue what anything was like back then... All you know is what Constantine deemed acceptable in 325 AD broseph.
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it's almost unbearable to read this Council of Nicaea falsehood day after day, for instance. yak I literally think I might throw up right now, I'm so sick of reading this merde.
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Who do you think would have wanted this to be in the bible, Constantine or Christ?


Colossians 3:22

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22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.
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So tend the garden by tricking humans into sinning? God knowingly created satan and banished him to earth in order to take all the souls who don't worship him to eternal suffering?

What do you mean only those exiled from the garden are descendants? Wouldn't that be all of humanity since adam and eve were the first humans on earth?

It would still be incest at some point amongst every species on the planet...
So you are admitting that this story in the bible might just be an exaggeration and might not be true?
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satan wasn't banished to earth. As is said on GLP many times a day and maybe on this thread already, He didn't create Satan ["opposer"], Satan created himself by opposing.
Adam and Eve weren't tricked, b/c "Adam was not deceived". I don't even pretend I know what you're talking about with "incest". Created perfect= therefore no problem inbreeding at first. Only later was incest law necessary.
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"Adam and Eve weren't tricked, b/c "Adam was not deceived"" please explain what you mean? you have interested me.
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just mean this-

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1 Timothy 2:14 and Adam was not deceived, but the woman, having been deceived, into transgression came,
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Thanks, but the fruit was eaten.
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Blessed be the memory of the time when HE donned the armour of mortal flesh and defeated the adversary with weapons and on the field of battle of the adversaries own choosing… Out of unfathomable Love for HIS creation, beyond knowledge...

HE lives and IS… in every realm… tremble before HIM! HE has risen indeed!
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Blessed be the memory of the time when HE donned the armour of mortal flesh and defeated the adversary with weapons and on the field of battle of the adversaries own choosing… Out of unfathomable Love for HIS creation, beyond knowledge...

HE lives and IS… in every realm… tremble before HIM! HE has risen indeed!
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Who do you think would have wanted this to be in the bible, Constantine or Christ?


Colossians 3:22

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22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.
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If god truly created a being and let him take over the planet where his most prized creations had just been created than i wouldn't want to meet him. That god would be an evil psychopathic ego driven monster who demands worship in order to be saved from a being he created when he could easily destroy satan or banish him to another universe.

Ooooh but he sacrificed himself for my sins right. Bullshit, he is god, he knew full well that he would not die upon mortal death so how is that a sacrifice? Because he went through a little pain? Big fucking deal people get mauled by tigers everyday...

Plus if you believe in the original story of adam and eve then you believe that we are all inbred mutants... if you believe that adam and eve were only two of many different first humans than you believe that onlly genetic ancestors are born with original sin...

You also believe that we are the descendants of noah and his family... there were less than 15 humans on board... you also believe that literally every species of animal on earth are the product of incest since noah only saved 2 of each...
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Just give up. You'll have better look teaching a dog trigonometry than trying to teach most Christians common sense
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satan wasn't banished to earth. As is said on GLP many times a day and maybe on this thread already, He didn't create Satan ["opposer"], Satan created himself by opposing.
Adam and Eve weren't tricked, b/c "Adam was not deceived". I don't even pretend I know what you're talking about with "incest". Created perfect= therefore no problem inbreeding at first. Only later was incest law necessary.
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So you are saying god did not create the angel Lucifer? If god is all knowing than he would have seen the rebellion of Lucifer and the other fallen angels before creating them...

So incest had no negative effects back then? Haha how can anyone with a brain make those kind of statements?! its fucking crazy to me how insane you people are, you have no clue what anything was like back then... All you know is what Constantine deemed acceptable in 325 AD broseph.
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it's almost unbearable to read this Council of Nicaea falsehood day after day, for instance. yak I literally think I might throw up right now, I'm so sick of reading this merde.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10858311


Who do you think would have wanted this to be in the bible, Constantine or Christ?


Colossians 3:22

New International Version (NIV)


22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36982934


"slave" had a different meaning in that time and place. It was more like "steward", or could be, as in the case of Joseph who was appointed over all the possessions of the king of Egypt. Could be preferable to starving, right? The prodigal son reflected upon how the lowliest servant in his father's household had it better than him, after he'd reached rock-bottom. There were rules for masters laid out in "the law" of Israel. The master was just as bound to a code of conduct as the slave, if he wanted God's favor. All in all probably a lot more dignified than today's debt slavery, and more free than today's "sovereign citizenship."
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Blessed be the memory of the time when HE donned the armour of mortal flesh and defeated the adversary with weapons and on the field of battle of the adversaries own choosing… Out of unfathomable Love for HIS creation, beyond knowledge...

HE lives and IS… in every realm… tremble before HIM! HE has risen indeed!
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Who do you think would have wanted this to be in the bible, Constantine or Christ?


Colossians 3:22

New International Version (NIV)


22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.
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This?

Colossians 3:22 - 25 kjv

22 Bondservants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh, not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but in sincerity of heart, fearing God.

23 And whatever you do, do it heartily, as to the Lord and not to men,
24 knowing that from the Lord you will receive the reward of the inheritance; for you serve the Lord Christ.

25 But he who does wrong will be repaid for what he has done, and there is no partiality.

I can hypothesize regarding Constantine the Christ I can not speak for...
But, it is in the bible and discussed in this time...
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Have it your way.

Good day.
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You have no clue. Argue all you want how you have the answers .
There is so much more to it that you don't know or even dig around and study to get the full picture.

Good luck..
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You heathen!

For God so loved the world he killed himself to save us from a concept he created and imposed on us, after the first woman ate a magic apple that was given to her by a talking snake, (that God created, and certainly knew what would happen) he then exiled them from his garden, and somehow these two people (made entirely of dirt and one rib) populated the Earth through several thousand years of inbreeding. To save yourself from this concept that your loving God created (the consequence being eternal torture) is to beg for forgiveness from a Jewish ghost who can speak to you from beyond the grave, and give the figurehead of your most local pyramid scheme (priest) a portion of your salary. Because apparently this God is an all-powerful one with a weakness to money. Also, if you wish hard enough, he will grant you wishes.
Science and medicine is witchcraft, hurricanes happen because homosexuals, pork is evil, and so are guns.
Any questions?
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If god truly created a being and let him take over the planet where his most prized creations had just been created than i wouldn't want to meet him. That god would be an evil psychopathic ego driven monster who demands worship in order to be saved from a being he created when he could easily destroy satan or banish him to another universe.

Ooooh but he sacrificed himself for my sins right. Bullshit, he is god, he knew full well that he would not die upon mortal death so how is that a sacrifice? Because he went through a little pain? Big fucking deal people get mauled by tigers everyday...

Plus if you believe in the original story of adam and eve then you believe that we are all inbred mutants... if you believe that adam and eve were only two of many different first humans than you believe that onlly genetic ancestors are born with original sin...

You also believe that we are the descendants of noah and his family... there were less than 15 humans on board... you also believe that literally every species of animal on earth are the product of incest since noah only saved 2 of each...
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You Sir are an obvious idiot.
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So you are saying god did not create the angel Lucifer? If god is all knowing than he would have seen the rebellion of Lucifer and the other fallen angels before creating them...

So incest had no negative effects back then? Haha how can anyone with a brain make those kind of statements?! its fucking crazy to me how insane you people are, you have no clue what anything was like back then... All you know is what Constantine deemed acceptable in 325 AD broseph.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36982934


it's almost unbearable to read this Council of Nicaea falsehood day after day, for instance. yak I literally think I might throw up right now, I'm so sick of reading this merde.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10858311


Who do you think would have wanted this to be in the bible, Constantine or Christ?


Colossians 3:22

New International Version (NIV)


22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36982934


"slave" had a different meaning in that time and place. It was more like "steward", or could be, as in the case of Joseph who was appointed over all the possessions of the king of Egypt. Could be preferable to starving, right? The prodigal son reflected upon how the lowliest servant in his father's household had it better than him, after he'd reached rock-bottom. There were rules for masters laid out in "the law" of Israel. The master was just as bound to a code of conduct as the slave, if he wanted God's favor. All in all probably a lot more dignified than today's debt slavery, and more free than today's "sovereign citizenship."
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Hahahhahahahaha what an idiot!
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If god truly created a being and let him take over the planet where his most prized creations had just been created than i wouldn't want to meet him. That god would be an evil psychopathic ego driven monster who demands worship in order to be saved from a being he created when he could easily destroy satan or banish him to another universe.

Ooooh but he sacrificed himself for my sins right. Bullshit, he is god, he knew full well that he would not die upon mortal death so how is that a sacrifice? Because he went through a little pain? Big fucking deal people get mauled by tigers everyday...

Plus if you believe in the original story of adam and eve then you believe that we are all inbred mutants... if you believe that adam and eve were only two of many different first humans than you believe that onlly genetic ancestors are born with original sin...

You also believe that we are the descendants of noah and his family... there were less than 15 humans on board... you also believe that literally every species of animal on earth are the product of incest since noah only saved 2 of each...
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You Sir are an obvious idiot.
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Says the retard who believes that a book that was written by man and used by evil emperors is the true word of the creator of the universe hahahahaha
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You heathen!

For God so loved the world he killed himself to save us from a concept he created and imposed on us, after the first woman ate a magic apple that was given to her by a talking snake, (that God created, and certainly knew what would happen) he then exiled them from his garden, and somehow these two people (made entirely of dirt and one rib) populated the Earth through several thousand years of inbreeding. To save yourself from this concept that your loving God created (the consequence being eternal torture) is to beg for forgiveness from a Jewish ghost who can speak to you from beyond the grave, and give the figurehead of your most local pyramid scheme (priest) a portion of your salary. Because apparently this God is an all-powerful one with a weakness to money. Also, if you wish hard enough, he will grant you wishes.
Science and medicine is witchcraft, hurricanes happen because homosexuals, pork is evil, and so are guns.
Any questions?
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