BREAKING>>>> North Korea says it 'enters war' with South Korea!!!

Still not seeing it. If they cant get a missle here, how are they going to pull off a wide scale EMP attack? Not trying to stir the pot here, just asking.

I do realize that not all those who dwell the surfaces of our planet are blessed with the intellectual capacity to apply basic, appropriate analytical tools in calculating the most probable outcomes of scenarios of this nature. Hence, I would like to a bore, and offer all those sadistic minds out there who, on some subconscious level at least, seem to be hoping for an actual wide-scale open conflict with a dose of pure, undiluted reality. Regardless of what the North-Korean media hype and scare has spurred in some of your highly imaginative little minds, I assure you there are NO missiles or other weaponry in the North-Korean regimes possession that have the reach or are able to do any damage to any target on the American mainland. PERIOD. If you seriously believe the opposite you need to get your head examined. And that includes the capacity to use nuclear warheads. We are talking about a country who, despite having a 1 million plus standing army (which is quite large for any moderately sized country), are in terms of military- technological development 50 years behind the rest of world, and in comparison to the United States, surely at least 100+ years behind. Every move they are making, both above ground and below is being monitored in utmost detail. The idea that North Korea would be able to use their old submarines to get anywhere close a location needed to hit the US mainland without the US noticing or tracking that movement and neutralizing that threat pre-emptivly is absolutely ridiculous.

The only real threat that has ever existed is their capacity to take on the highly geo-politically vulnerable South Korea, seeing as how Seoul isn't located more than 40 km from the border of the two Koreas. Even though South-Korea has a smaller army numerically, their technological capacity trumps the Norths by a longshot so even an isolated mexican standoff between the two of them would result in an highly probable victory for the South. Any scholar versed in this field would tell you this. Add the US alliance to this and well, it simply is a no brainer. And China is not a factor people, their support of the latest sanctions imposed on the country should be an obvious display that their is a limit to extent of that friendship. What you ultimately fail to understand is that the Kim-dynasty in North-Korea uses this kind of rhetoric and display of power to handle conflicts and tensions within the small clique of family-elites who influence and circulate around the secluded Kim-dynasty. This is a simple display of resolve by the new heir to throne, to assure the preservation of his dynasty by showing that he might look dull ,fat and young but that he is willing to go great lengths in order to "bravely protect" his people. In turn he earns the respect and loyalty of the old, crazy and paranoid generals that surround and advise him. It has very little to do with the outside world you see. The North-Korean regime KNOWS it signs it's own death sentence and definite demise by initiating an open full-scale conflict it could NEVER win, with the South and by extension the US. The first rule in an anarchic world system of state actors is that only the national state apparatus itself can assure the preservation and continuation of it's own government and governance. That's some political science 101 for all of you pseudo-scholars out there :). North-Korea, if anything is a prime example of a regime with an extremely high sense of self-preservation, so why on earth would they resort to an action, completely counter-intuitive to this? Think! Of course it wouldn't! How would it benefit from it's own annihilation? So please. Chill out.

Steve Herman
@W7VOA: Kim Jong Un vows to launch more satellites and boost nuclear power development.

I do realize that not all those who dwell the surfaces of our planet are blessed with the intellectual capacity to apply basic, appropriate analytical tools in calculating the most probable outcomes of scenarios of this nature. Hence, I would like to a bore, and offer all those sadistic minds out there who, on some subconscious level at least, seem to be hoping for an actual wide-scale open conflict with a dose of pure, undiluted reality. Regardless of what the North-Korean media hype and scare has spurred in some of your highly imaginative little minds, I assure you there are NO missiles or other weaponry in the North-Korean regimes possession that have the reach or are able to do any damage to any target on the American mainland. PERIOD. If you seriously believe the opposite you need to get your head examined. And that includes the capacity to use nuclear warheads. We are talking about a country who, despite having a 1 million plus standing army (which is quite large for any moderately sized country), are in terms of military- technological development 50 years behind the rest of world, and in comparison to the United States, surely at least 100+ years behind. Every move they are making, both above ground and below is being monitored in utmost detail. The idea that North Korea would be able to use their old submarines to get anywhere close a location needed to hit the US mainland without the US noticing or tracking that movement and neutralizing that threat pre-emptivly is absolutely ridiculous.

The only real threat that has ever existed is their capacity to take on the highly geo-politically vulnerable South Korea, seeing as how Seoul isn't located more than 40 km from the border of the two Koreas. Even though South-Korea has a smaller army numerically, their technological capacity trumps the Norths by a longshot so even an isolated mexican standoff between the two of them would result in an highly probable victory for the South. Any scholar versed in this field would tell you this. Add the US alliance to this and well, it simply is a no brainer. And China is not a factor people, their support of the latest sanctions imposed on the country should be an obvious display that their is a limit to extent of that friendship. What you ultimately fail to understand is that the Kim-dynasty in North-Korea uses this kind of rhetoric and display of power to handle conflicts and tensions within the small clique of family-elites who influence and circulate around the secluded Kim-dynasty. This is a simple display of resolve by the new heir to throne, to assure the preservation of his dynasty by showing that he might look dull ,fat and young but that he is willing to go great lengths in order to "bravely protect" his people. In turn he earns the respect and loyalty of the old, crazy and paranoid generals that surround and advise him. It has very little to do with the outside world you see. The North-Korean regime KNOWS it signs it's own death sentence and definite demise by initiating an open full-scale conflict it could NEVER win, with the South and by extension the US. The first rule in an anarchic world system of state actors is that only the national state apparatus itself can assure the preservation and continuation of it's own government and governance. That's some political science 101 for all of you pseudo-scholars out there :). North-Korea, if anything is a prime example of a regime with an extremely high sense of self-preservation, so why on earth would they resort to an action, completely counter-intuitive to this? Think! Of course it wouldn't! How would it benefit from it's own annihilation? So please. Chill out.

Not surprising.

Oh youre new here I see. Please allow me to have the honor of welcoming you here.....now go fuck yourself you rice munching change dropping in the sink name having fruitcake

Def a noobie, yet there is nothing wrong ith that. There I a lot of BS threads that get made so it drowns the other threads that have the jewels. You just have to go threw it all till you find something that resembles what you feels the truth. This thread isn't a bad thread it started out reporting the news and now we are discussing it and throwing theory's out there on what happens next. Most likely with NK nothing will happen they are usually all talk, yet this time they've gone further than they usually have gone in the past so it does raise some issues.

I can pretty much sum it up for you like this:

North Korea talks a lot of shit, the end.

I can pretty much sum it up for you like this:

North Korea talks a lot of shit, the end.

I mean don't get me wrong a conflict is entirely possible, it always was since the war never really ended.

Just saying that during my time in the Navy we raised our posture many times due to such threats by them, and nothing ever really happened from it.

It's never bad to keep and open mind, and consider all possibilities. Just don't think that this means war is imminent or anything due the the "information" in this thread.

Again just the opinion of one ex-military guy. Take it or leave it, it's up to you.

you are right
it's possible, the us wouldn't deploy all this military equipment if it would NOT be possible