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Kubrick's "The Shining" - is it a parallel biography about his childhood, Faked Apollo moon landing, and Nazi Germany?

 
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Kubrick's "The Shining" - is it a parallel biography about his childhood, Faked Apollo moon landing, and Nazi Germany?
Just watched the documentary "Room 237" and he finds the many, many symbols and numerous layers of stories being told in Kubrick's The Shining. Mind you, I said Kubrick's Shining.

The part I found to be rip-off was that the biographer never touched on the obvious illuminati symbolism. Almost, like he purposefully danced around it. But, he did offer some excellent analysis and interpretation, as well as great footage. So, i will give it 4 out of 5 stars.

I especially liked when he took the movie and started it from the beginning and overlaid it with the movie started at the end. The parallels of each scene are striking.

Kubrick was so genius he can't possibly be human...

lol

But, of all the times that i watched that film, i never noticed the underlying depiction of the impact that the faked Apollo moon landing had on him on a deeply personal and emotional level.

As far as I'm concerned, Kubrick's The Shining is proof that he was responsible for faking the Apollo mission.

Here is the trailer for the documentary Room 237



My take, after watching this documentary, is that Kubrick was greatly affected by Nazi Germany, the holocaust, and the evil and mystery around that whole era, which somehow led him to go along with the filming of the faked moon landing.

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...more to come...
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i think the Danny character represents many things (as every detail in a Kubrick film has multiple layers) but could also represent Kubrick as a child.

Notice in this clip the Danny character with the Apollo sweater

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i think the Danny character represents many things (as every detail in a Kubrick film has multiple layers) but could also represent Kubrick as a child.

Notice in this clip the Danny character with the Apollo sweater


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Room 237 has some interesting connections.

the film set for the Apollo stuff was Set #237
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sorry, i had to step out for a short bit, but, if you look at the Shining, you will see reference to the number 42 all thru the film. this is in reference to 1942 at the start of the holocaust and the genocide of the Jews.

this had an enormous impact on Kubrick, it seems, and he has incorporated it in this film and some of his others.
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I read something about the significance of what he wrote on the typewriter over and over. Can't remember now though. Ill have a look for it.
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I read something about the significance of what he wrote on the typewriter over and over. Can't remember now though. Ill have a look for it.
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the typewriter is interesting because it is a German brand "Adler" which means "eagle"

represents Nazi Germany, also represents US Government

on the typewriter, there is a scene where Jack writes "all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy"

this is representative of the guilt he had, and was expressing toward his wife, about his committment to US gvmt for the apollo contract. the wife connection is show thru Shelley Duvall's character in the scene
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I agree with you Salt,
Kubrick was one of the most incredible film directors ever, and I think he was privy to some deep secrets, which he tried to convey in his films.
I recently watched EYES WIDE SHUT and CLOCKWORK ORANGE and 2001 A SPACE ODYSSEY over again was amazed at the messages in those films.
I have heard that Kubrick directed the moon landing footage on the set of 2001 in England and I found these videos (parts 1,2 and 3) that has people like Rumsfield and Chaney talking about it and laughing their heads off. Watch it when you have the chance- hereís a link:
[link to www.youtube.com]
Itís unbelievable!

Iíve been meaning to watch THE SHINING again with my new eyes.
Iím sure Iíll see things Iíve never seen before.
Kubrick was the best!
I think THEY snuffed him out just like they did Breitbart.
He was just too much of a danger to THEM.

THEY LIVE Ė (another great one)
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I agree with you Salt,
Kubrick was one of the most incredible film directors ever, and I think he was privy to some deep secrets, which he tried to convey in his films.
I recently watched EYES WIDE SHUT and CLOCKWORK ORANGE and 2001 A SPACE ODYSSEY over again was amazed at the messages in those films.
I have heard that Kubrick directed the moon landing footage on the set of 2001 in England and I found these videos (parts 1,2 and 3) that has people like Rumsfield and Chaney talking about it and laughing their heads off. Watch it when you have the chance- hereís a link:
[link to www.youtube.com]
Itís unbelievable!

Iíve been meaning to watch THE SHINING again with my new eyes.
Iím sure Iíll see things Iíve never seen before.
Kubrick was the best!
I think THEY snuffed him out just like they did Breitbart.
He was just too much of a danger to THEM.

THEY LIVE Ė (another great one)
 Quoting: Mz RdNk


Yeah, he "died" suddenly days after Eyes Wide Shut was released. Coincidence? There are no coincidences.
Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies
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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
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When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
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5*'s OP. I would pay a lot of money to see the unedited versions of all his films, especially Eyes Wide Shut since most of it was left on the cutting room floor.

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Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies
~U.R.~

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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Re: Kubrick's "The Shining" - is it a parallel biography about his childhood, Faked Apollo moon landing, and Nazi Germany?
ok, so check this out:

we see danny wearing the apollo rocket sweater
then he heads to room 237
the door is open with a key in the lock
key says ROOM No 237 - or MOON Room 237
Stage #237 was the room for apollo set for fake footage
Kubrick watched lots of WW2 Newsreels showing fake footage of soldiers and fighter jets on US soil being staged.
Distance from earth to moon 237,000
Room is secret and nobody can know what goes on in there
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i think the deal for doing the apollo fake moon footage was like the beautiful woman in room 237. she seduces him and then becomes a rotting hag who tries to kill him.
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Have you by chance seen the documentary "Kubrick's Oddysey"? It raises many of these same points and I believe it brings some very firm evidence to the table.
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i think the deal for doing the apollo fake moon footage was like the beautiful woman in room 237. she seduces him and then becomes a rotting hag who tries to kill him.
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Interesting - Can't wait to watch THE SHINING now.
I wonder if it's on Netflix.
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i think the deal for doing the apollo fake moon footage was like the beautiful woman in room 237. she seduces him and then becomes a rotting hag who tries to kill him.
 Quoting: Salt


Interesting - Can't wait to watch THE SHINING now.
I wonder if it's on Netflix.
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Don't waste your time. It's not. Pick a copy up at Walmart.
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I read something about the significance of what he wrote on the typewriter over and over. Can't remember now though. Ill have a look for it.
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the typewriter is interesting because it is a German brand "Adler" which means "eagle"

represents Nazi Germany, also represents US Government

on the typewriter, there is a scene where Jack writes "all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy"

this is representative of the guilt he had, and was expressing toward his wife, about his committment to US gvmt for the apollo contract. the wife connection is show thru Shelley Duvall's character in the scene
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If you look closely at the paper, it actually says A11 instead of All. As in Apollo 11.
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I read something about the significance of what he wrote on the typewriter over and over. Can't remember now though. Ill have a look for it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37164657


the typewriter is interesting because it is a German brand "Adler" which means "eagle"

represents Nazi Germany, also represents US Government

on the typewriter, there is a scene where Jack writes "all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy"

this is representative of the guilt he had, and was expressing toward his wife, about his committment to US gvmt for the apollo contract. the wife connection is show thru Shelley Duvall's character in the scene
 Quoting: Salt


If you look closely at the paper, it actually says A11 instead of All. As in Apollo 11.
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wow, good eye

that scene, when wendy discovers that typed paper, is synonymous with Kubrick's wife finding out about apollo project. listen to the speech jack gives wendy about his "obligations to his employers"



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Have you by chance seen the documentary "Kubrick's Oddysey"? It raises many of these same points and I believe it brings some very firm evidence to the table.
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yes! ive even started a thread on it at one point hf
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Kubrick was about 13 yrs old in 1942, when the genocide of the Jews took place. Kubrick being Jewish himself I'm sure was deeply impacted and marked by this, which is revealed in the Danny scenes when he has the scary visions.
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bump For later. Jay Weidner does a lot of research of Kubrick as well, very interesting stuff.

Sounds like the offed him before he was able to release Eyes Wide Shut. They took out a lot of his scenes in the final edit. A shame really, looks like it blows the whistle on a lot of the sexual stuff the elite is into, among other things.
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Re: Kubrick's "The Shining" - is it a parallel biography about his childhood, Faked Apollo moon landing, and Nazi Germany?
Kubrick didn't write the Shining. He produced the movie. The Actual story is the brilliant product of Stephen King's imagination.
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Re: Kubrick's "The Shining" - is it a parallel biography about his childhood, Faked Apollo moon landing, and Nazi Germany?
Kubrick didn't write the Shining. He produced the movie. The Actual story is the brilliant product of Stephen King's imagination.
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ugh...

kubrick took over the story, which became a ghost afterward, and turned it into his own master creation. Kubrick even evidenced this by a short scene showing a semi truck overturned on the snowy highway crushing a red volkswagen which symbolized Kubrick crushing King's version of the story and making it his own. in the book, Jack drove a red vw. in kubricks film, it was yellow.

kubrick was never a producer by any stretch of the word

he is a master film maker, director and a cinematographer
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it is interesting however that everywhere Kubrick deviates from stephen king's book, the symbolism is heavy in either the apollo mission or the holocaust/Nazi germany
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Kubrick was about 13 yrs old in 1942, when the genocide of the Jews took place. Kubrick being Jewish himself I'm sure was deeply impacted and marked by this, which is revealed in the Danny scenes when he has the scary visions.
 Quoting: Salt


In the opening sequence, there are 42 cars in the parking lot.
Danny wears a jersey with the number 42 on it.
Room 237, (2x3x7=42).
There are 42 gallons of blood spewing from the elevator.
There are 42 dead people in the Gold Room.

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