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In your experience what are the mechanics of the dream world and do you believe this is the 5d that people talk about ascending into?


Here is my understanding. Ill try and break it down based on my observation from the dream/mental realm.


Time aka chicken and egg.

There seems to be a yin and yang to it as with anything else I experience form my perspectives.

THERE things happen over time or within my HERE understanding of time. the more i remember the more i realize that WHEN happens there is the opposite of WHEN happens here. for example. The first part of my dream is often the last part of my waking day. or at least speaks to it. the last part of my dream speaks to the first part of my day. so. im left asking what is the dream and what is "real".

im able to predict things to happen in my "real" day based on what happens in the dream from the night before. Or something happens HERE that happened THERE. am i living in a dream? is my higher self higher or a reflective self? I know he wears a black hooded robe. ( sorry ill try to keep the personal parts out of this and stick to mechanics only).

Place Place seems to be more expressionist THERE. Non specific yet illustrative. The places THERE are summations or the most basic ways of distilling where I will walk HERE. for example: the bay of a lake as organic as that may be here it is an expression that can be boiled down to the concept of where land meets water. thats how it would apear THERE. Materials delineated in simplistic forms. Concrete and water touching. Place not to be confused with emotional landscape ( house, mansion, cave seem to be extensions of my personal psyche.)

Tansitrelated o Place but more about the mechanics of getting place to place. This part really interests me. Tunnels, Trains, portals...walking through walls, taking trains, jumping into holes in the ground and coming out in different places THERE.


Infrastructure
HERE, STARS(floor of THERE or astrological signs.) THERE, SKY of THERE. Our dreams happen above the floor of THERE.


Thank you for reading. This is nothing more than a quick and dirty record of my understanding. Hope it opens doors between US.

hf
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Just found this this morning on another forum which I can't link to -

This is super old knowledge passed down from old seers.

The energy body is all about energy. The power to perform incredible feats of all kinds requires a lot of it.

But ordinary existence takes up most of the energy we have. Ok. Let's just say that evil demons are stealing some of our energy. And that bad food is stealing a bit more. And that it is all a plot to keep us in the matrix.

SO what.

(I only added the bit about demons for DRAMATIC EFFECT!!!!! Because those who are fixated on that sort of thing are NOT going to like this thread!!)


Yes, deal with all that. However there is something more important to deal with: your own energy body.

The real energy 'gain' lies in the energy body itself. Just to wake it up takes MASSIVE amounts of energy. Even if you eat perfect non-GMO food and deal with every negative energy source that tries to drain you, it's not enough energy gained to wake up the energy body.

If anyone is interested:

It all has to do with moving the Assemblage Point.

Definition: the assemblage point is the energy knot (the chakras are too) that connects the energy body or soul to the body.

The assemblage point when moved in DREAMING primarily determines what reality we inhabit. By moving the assemblage point we can go anywhere, past, present, future, obtain information, heal ourselves, and a lot more. Most importantly: gain freedom and have experiences in non-ordinary reality, function as an energy being that we are.

Repeat: the assemblage point is the energy knot (the chakras are too) that connects the energy body or soul to the body.

The shamans train to be able to manipulate the AP at will. (Not in all traditions but some).

Then they are able to dream-awake.

Some folks are naturally psychic. That just means they have a bit of an energy surplus, more than others. It might not be enough though to bring the energy body into a full-blown state of wakefulness.
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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Continued....

Belief systems: they are merely 'locations' of the assemblage point. But there are INFINITE locations. (remember: the assemblage point is the energy knot that joins the double or energy body to the physical body.)

Christians will immediately scream 'witch.' We are all involved in magic according to the shamans, and even on a close reading of the Old Testament. The existence of a commonly agreed upon world is a major magical feat accomplished by the energy body.
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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Continued....

In dreaming the assemblage point moves naturally. This is why the shamans perfect the art of dreaming. Dreams are REAL experiences. Shamans can use dreams to do things and bring things back. The average person has not woken up so their dreams are only dreams. But for a shaman, dreams are real places - locations of the assemblage point that they can visit to accomplish certain purposes or just for the sake of freedom. Imagine being awake when the body is asleep and having access to anything - languages, locations, etc. The modern shaman has given up on rituals. They travel light. When one gets good at dreaming it is then possible to begin dreaming awake. This is how Jesus walked on water. To the viewer it was a miracle. To the energy body it's nothing at all, it's just walking on the energy filaments which comprise the luminous egg, the cocoon we call the energy body.
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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In your experience what are the mechanics of the dream world and do you believe this is the 5d that people talk about ascending into?


Here is my understanding. Ill try and break it down based on my observation from the dream/mental realm.


Time aka chicken and egg.

There seems to be a yin and yang to it as with anything else I experience form my perspectives.

THERE things happen over time or within my HERE understanding of time. the more i remember the more i realize that WHEN happens there is the opposite of WHEN happens here. for example. The first part of my dream is often the last part of my waking day. or at least speaks to it. the last part of my dream speaks to the first part of my day. so. im left asking what is the dream and what is "real".

im able to predict things to happen in my "real" day based on what happens in the dream from the night before. Or something happens HERE that happened THERE. am i living in a dream? is my higher self higher or a reflective self? I know he wears a black hooded robe. ( sorry ill try to keep the personal parts out of this and stick to mechanics only).

Place Place seems to be more expressionist THERE. Non specific yet illustrative. The places THERE are summations or the most basic ways of distilling where I will walk HERE. for example: the bay of a lake as organic as that may be here it is an expression that can be boiled down to the concept of where land meets water. thats how it would apear THERE. Materials delineated in simplistic forms. Concrete and water touching. Place not to be confused with emotional landscape ( house, mansion, cave seem to be extensions of my personal psyche.)

Tansitrelated o Place but more about the mechanics of getting place to place. This part really interests me. Tunnels, Trains, portals...walking through walls, taking trains, jumping into holes in the ground and coming out in different places THERE.


Infrastructure
HERE, STARS(floor of THERE or astrological signs.) THERE, SKY of THERE. Our dreams happen above the floor of THERE.


Thank you for reading. This is nothing more than a quick and dirty record of my understanding. Hope it opens doors between US.

hf
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Continued....

Time and space are only location of the AP. Think about that. They are locations that can be visited by the energy body. Time travel is not really what it seems. All it is ? A position of the AP.

Doom and gloom and news? Very small movements of the AP within ordinary reality. Yes bad guys and bad stuff. But these are like alternate universes existing and overlapping within ordinary reality: nothing other than locations of the AP. The biggest fear of someone who is vested in a particular energy location is the fluidity of the AP: it represents vertigo to them; like a dancer the energy body can go anywhere, anytime, and can view and act without constraint of time and space. Of course some would like to prevent that ability in others. But the wonderful thing is, such a preventing is impossible for so many reasons.....

TPTB are just experts of a certain AP location within ordinary reality. Yes, evil experts. It matters insofar as both ordinary and non-ordinary reality combine to make a whole. But their real weakness is that they have zero energy body capability. This is why they resort to dark arts. Problem is that dark arts deplete the energy body and that sort of use of POWER backfires in the end. Dead end. This is why they need so much energy and are voracious vampires. Christians are just experts of another AP location. But that location prevents them because of fear from ever developing the energy body. Even the most new age-y Yeshua Christian type cannot even read CC or Harner because they think that contact with 'entities' is demonic. They lock themselves up in their protective mode of warrior and don't realize they have an even greater strength. Jesus was a perfected being who had a fully actualized energy body, both of his bodies were as one and awake together. Baba the same sort of thing. What an amazing thing. This is allowed for anyone to accomplish. the question of who is God or not God is sort of irrelevant at our stage since we are ASLEEP and couldn't see God if our lives depended on it. We don't have enough ENERGY. Dreaming awake and moving the AP requires energy that the shamanic way helps one acquire. It's not a religion either although some treat it that way (either to condemn it as witchcraft or to overemphasize religious ritual aspects of it.)
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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would you lower the flag if i told you jesus is handing out THERE?
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Continued....

The age and condition of the physical body, its species, its appearance, everything - relates to the AP position.

This sounds bizarre. But the AP position links to energy fillaments or emanations from source and the earth. These emananations flood the universe. Where we are, when we are, how we are - everything - depends on the AP location or position that is assumed.

The ability to assume an AP position at will has to do with energy available. How to accumulate energy is the shaman's art.

The energy body is PHYSICS. There is no religion to the EXPERIENCE and waking up and training of the energy body (soul, or whatever other way you want to describe it works too).

Some energy filaments or emanations are visible to the five senses in ordinary reality. Some energy filaments are only 'seen' when the energy body is operative and when the energy body 'goes' to certain AP locations.

Some shamans used this ability to go to distant locations and view, or else to remote view, to retrieve objects and bring them to ordinary reality, to heal (because they can see the damaged or entangled filaments), to access other worlds (heavenly type places, hellish places, other places in general, other planets or systems, the list goes on.)

Metaphysics: Just a physics that underlies or is unknown. The places of the AP that we call non-ordinary or mystical are simply uncharted in the same way that America was uncharted for the Europeans.

Harner has made it his life work to CHART these locations and accumulate maps of these locations.

FULL THROTTLE: when the energy body and physical body fully integrate into one power then you have SAI BABA, JESUS, etc. At that point the 'being' can simply go anywhere. (Leave this world forever without dying or come and go from worlds, fully functional and evading death).
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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Continued....

Some reasons why it is so hard to start the process, to wake up, if you are interested:

The ordinary reality takes a huge amount of energy. All of it in fact. It's rare to have enough energy to be able to even function as an energy body or being rather than just in the ordinary side of things (the ordinary reality is called the right side, the tonal).

The CC books give details instructions on how to recapture energy belonging to oneself. As one gains strength back (to the energy body) one is then able to experience non-ordinary reality to greater degrees (the non-ordinary reality is also called the nagual, the left side, etc.)

Entangled filaments in the energy body, years of social programming, and other factors, make sure that most people remain 'asleep.' Waking up cannot be stopped by any power on earth although it is VERY hard to wake up.
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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Thanks for the info Rev. Going to think about the AP
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would you lower the flag if i told you jesus is handing out THERE?
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Thanks for the info Rev. Going to think about the AP
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I know! I'm still absorbing it. Maybe we can dream ourselves awake tonight?!
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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would you lower the flag if i told you jesus is handing out THERE?
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I don't believe in Christianity I'm afraid.

GOD = the collective soul.

That's it. Nothing more to it than that.
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What about the very rare times during dreaming, where you realise you are in the dreamstate and are able to exert some control over the dream scenario or your actions within.
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would you lower the flag if i told you jesus is handing out THERE?
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I don't believe in Christianity I'm afraid.

GOD = the collective soul.

That's it. Nothing more to it than that.
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“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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What about the very rare times during dreaming, where you realise you are in the dreamstate and are able to exert some control over the dream scenario or your actions within.
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if my lower self here in the flesh doesnt fuck it up and le t my penis take control,

well isnt that what 11:11 is about.

a channel between?
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Eleven eleven, who knows, myriad of meanings, synchronisity maybe
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you need not search as far as you might think

[link to www.philosophyblog.com.au]
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you need not search as far as you might think

[link to www.philosophyblog.com.au]
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please explain
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this better?
[link to upload.wikimedia.org]
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hey Ok a fool is lo king at me
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Maybe they think you are somebody else, do you do much gardening?
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you need not search as far as you might think

[link to www.philosophyblog.com.au]
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please explain
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it's all in you're head
you just don't know how big you're head is.

it's not something that can be explained.
only self taught through emotion & feeling so it encompasses you in order for you to know it.

Most people never understand it.
You are much higher then all them people.

Blessed be,
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you need not search as far as you might think

[link to www.philosophyblog.com.au]
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please explain
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it's all in you're head
you just don't know how big you're head is.

it's not something that can be explained.
only self taught through emotion & feeling so it encompasses you in order for you to know it.

Most people never understand it.
You are much higher then all them people.

Blessed be,
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i walk with my people. not above.
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Got Miriams gardening book
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Interesting reading! I've been dreaming/lucid dreaming a lot lately, does anyone else find it tiring? I sometimes wake up tired, does anyone else?

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