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How many of you are completely ostracized from society, like me?

 
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but also, most of the people I party with are fairly awake. we talk about the same shit discussed here on GLP.

I don't think this is the case with most people so it can be difficult wanting to go out and deal with people. So I dunno.. it's a tough situation hopefully the less knowledgeable will awaken and deal with the current reality sooner than later
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I've found this peculiar, too. The only people that come close to thinking similarly are in online communities. But maybe I'm looking in the wrong places.
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Sometimes there are other blenders around you. Drop little hints often, and be open to discerning when someone picks up on them. Strengthen your spidey senses. charlie
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Visit a library or bookstore, and go to the woo woo sections.
I have found some fascinating friends there.
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Re: How many of you are completely ostracized from society, like me?
This path is NOT because you are alone..its because you choose to NOT be part of society ..its values..its morals..

you probably have many friends that want to hang out with you..only it doesnt fill you anymore..because what society has to offer doesnt give you happiness or inner peace..because you have found something of more value

so you choose this way

not out of loneliness or sadness

but out of love..and the search of inner peace and joy

its freedom ..

Communion with Creation to the fullest..and Union with God

the Ego is silenced

so the spirit can speak
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Spot on. I do have a hard time returning calls sometimes :)
I hate to say that I CHOSE to be lonely, but it's a side-effect of the path that I chose. I just can't relate to people programming in this social construct. I really can't see any other way to live. The fabric of a peaceful existence is that of unconditional love, living harmoniously with all things. I don't need to say how disharmonious our world currently is, and it has spread like a virus.
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It's a hard life, being aware of things that nobody else is aware of.

I've always been hypersensitive to things - overly aware of the bigger picture and always paying attention to the present moment. I consider myself a perpetual student of nature, science, and current events, and have literally devoted my entire personal time to answering my own questions, which bring answers, which bring questions.

Because of this, I've essentially ostracized myself from what we call "society." Being 25 years old, everyone I know (at least within my age bracket) is only concerned with making money, getting laid, and building their social network. In my research, I KNOW that this is irrelevant. Yet, I am immersed in this culture with no escape.

I desire simple things. To love, and be loved. To devote my life to expanding my capacity to love, and to gain wisdom from my experiences. I'm just so tired of fighting against the current of the status quo. I always feel like I'm on the brink of a mental breakdown because nobody knows what I'm feeling or how I'm thinking. I think I'm the most sane person that I know. Nobody else looks up in admiration at the stars, or smells the flowers growing wildly in their yard. Nobody I know focuses on deep yogic breathing, feeling the oxygen flow through their veins and pumping life energy throughout their body. Or sits in silence at the pure bliss of being alive. Nobody I know wants to discuss relevant ideas about our symbiotic relationship with the planet and the universe. They just want to get shitfaced, make money, be popular and get laid. Nobody cares.

I realize my dread is counteractive to what I preach. I understand that, and I am not perfect. But why does it need to be an uphill battle, all the fucking time? Why can't I just live? I can't even remember the last time I just LIVED!! God, and God's brilliance is all around us. That which creates and sustains our cells is the same life force that's creating and sustaining our Universe. We are all connected, yet nobody wants to acknowledge it!

Being awakened is a lonely path..
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You need to be aware of the ego constantly trying to butt in and make everything into something about it. That's the ego's job. You can't 'turn your mind off', but you can choose to ignore it. I am referring to the idea that you are 'alone', 'ostracized'. This is subjective, and it's also pretty common to feel this way. You're walking a path that many have walked before you, and many will walk after you. While you and I are discovering nothing new, it feels like it.

The reason why many people claim to feel ostracized is because they do it to themselves. You mentioned not being able to talk about things that interest you with others around you. If you're going to a bar with some friends and all you want to do is talk about God's love and sunshine and rainbows, well, I'm not sure I'd want you around either.

It's like people who can't stop talking about work, even in their off-time. I don't understand it. You have to be an honest judge about how in-your-face you are with your beliefs if that is the problem. Also, in regards to it being an uphill climb, that's the nature of life. It is steeped in adversity of every color and stripe.

I do find your post resonating with me also. I won't get into many details here, but as for my experience, just a few days after my 34th birthday I was in a car accident where I basically took a battle axe to the face. I was in a coma for a week and when I woke up, I can only describe it as feeling like I was in someone else's body. The story of 'The Norwalk Avenger' is about coming back from that feeling of oblivion. It also involves learning to do and say things when, as you pointed out, no one cares. It's true. Humans, at least run of the mill Americans, have very little time or sympathy for each otherm, beyond the civility of just moving out of the way on a crowded bus or responding to "Hello". You have to be, like Gandhi said ( I think ), the change in the world you wish to see. Therefore, it shouldn't matter if no one cares. It shouldn't matter if no one loves. It shouldn't matter if no one values interpersonal relationship - because YOU do. That's all that matters.

Learn to be a student and never a master. Don't pretend to teach anyone, just be an example of how to live. Help others connect to the source of unending, undying energy. Practice lots of random acts of kindness, don't treat money or time as "precious" because they really aren't. I could go on and on, but my thoughts in this area are not always in order. If you want to keep in touch, I do have a facebook page where I tend to keep some of my anti-establishment (and other) interests, if you look up 'The Norwalk Avenger', you may find something that interests you.

Oh, and for God's sake.. please, please, PLEASE don't breathlessly shout "AMAAAAAZING" at everything like those HerbaLife cultists do. It's so annoying.

I wish you the best. :)

-N-
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You're a high vibe 'present minded' being in a low vibe 'past/future minded' dominant reality... the latter can sense the former and will pull all sorts of tactics to drag you to their 'frequency of experience'. I recommend meditation, astral travel and metaphysical study... arm your spirit, because this is just a ride and when it's over your resistance will have paid off... then the real journey begins.
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This I understand, and is a theory as to why I've essentially cast myself out of society. From the moment people meet me, they see that I'm different. It's very uncomfortable not being able to sync with most people. It also makes it hard to speak with people, which is surprising because I can talk for hours on most things.

Meditation has been a part of my life for a few years now. I've never been able to achieve astral travel but it's definitely an interest of mine. While I study metaphysics`with an open mind, I am very careful with what I choose to believe. Belief implies blind faith, but I've become attuned to picking up on subtle environmental stimuli which have answered countless questions about the metaphysical realm. I can go on about this if you'd like.
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OP is autistic/has asperger's.

Anti-social tendencies are common here. Also delusions that justify the anti-social behavior is common, too.

The Sandy Hook killer was like this as well. Seek help, OP.
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HAHA woah! That's pretty heavy, man. Definitely don't have autism or aspergers. And I'm DEFINITELY not homicidal or suicidal. Thank you for your concern, though :) :peace:
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What's your Zodiac Sign?
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Saggitarius! 12/21 as a matter of fact.
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That gave me a shiver op - I'm English so my birth date is 21/12 the same.

Those born on that date are prescribed thinkers and philosophers, it is our destiny to think and possibly be ostracized - don't feel threatened by it - feel you are i tune with Universe but not society. That's how I get through it...

Normal folks think of me as weird, and strange, I'm called an enigma all the time, yet I don't hold back in terms of what I want to say, it hurts me sometimes cause I don't do anything weird, or see why I should be described as an enigma!

My belief in life is so simple it confuses so many I tell it too - I just wish I had similar folk around me...


...
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Agreed. I was told something similar by a dear old friend who was an astrologer for years. Unfortunately he recently passed away, but he played a pivotal role in helping me accept who I am. And I know what you mean about my personal life mantra! It's deceptively simple, and I even mentioned it in the OP.
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Yes, humankind is digging it's own grave in terms of freedom and humanity, and there is nothing we can do but look on.

Nobody cares, listens or understand.

So fuck it.
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the only aspect is what op said..its not easy to find people that follow this path..,or view life like that

And once you start this path ..everything else just pales in comparison..nothing else matters.. you just want more and more


Its beautiful..more so if shared.
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“The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again, and then in his joy went and sold all he had and bought that field."
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OP probably wants to get off the internet for a week or 2, go out, meet people, interact with the society he believes ostracized him. It's an amazing place, Real Life. All kinds of different, interesting, and usually friendly people. He could actually get a sun tan, too!
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The internet is quite tantalizing, I'll give you that, but I spent most of my time, each day, outside. In the mornings I'll walk through the downtown area of my small town, grab a coffee, watch the street performers, breathe the cool air and watch the birds. I go for hikes several times per week out in the woods. It's necessary in order for me to stay sane. A few years ago I shut myself in to the internet, and it nearly drove me insane.
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Cheers the original poster, I have had similar feelings.

There will be massive infection points in social psychology and societial culture within the next 5 years as the decay of our system is realized and brought out into the external world. One of the things I look forward too with knowledge of it being a double edge sword is the opportunity that the world will bring in such a moment of time. These are unprecedented times and we are able to have access to unprecedented levels of knowledge. Self-awareness is freedom, as you can respect yourself for what you know. Most of those who are living the lifestyle you look down upon are empty inside, or live within their outter shell of their ego and masks that they wear instead of finding true happiness within one self. It may not be easy but we each get to mold our own life... many never realize they are not living their own life but one that society has incorrectly adopted and emphasized as free.

Cheers 2 you.
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So is this another don't wake up cause you'll be scared thread?
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Most definitely not! :) I guess it's a treatment on the path itself, since it's never-ending and arduous. My intention was to reach out, and it seemed to work wonders.
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It's a hard life, being aware of things that nobody else is aware of.

I've always been hypersensitive to things - overly aware of the bigger picture and always paying attention to the present moment. I consider myself a perpetual student of nature, science, and current events, and have literally devoted my entire personal time to answering my own questions, which bring answers, which bring questions.

Because of this, I've essentially ostracized myself from what we call "society." Being 25 years old, everyone I know (at least within my age bracket) is only concerned with making money, getting laid, and building their social network. In my research, I KNOW that this is irrelevant. Yet, I am immersed in this culture with no escape.

I desire simple things. To love, and be loved. To devote my life to expanding my capacity to love, and to gain wisdom from my experiences. I'm just so tired of fighting against the current of the status quo. I always feel like I'm on the brink of a mental breakdown because nobody knows what I'm feeling or how I'm thinking. I think I'm the most sane person that I know. Nobody else looks up in admiration at the stars, or smells the flowers growing wildly in their yard. Nobody I know focuses on deep yogic breathing, feeling the oxygen flow through their veins and pumping life energy throughout their body. Or sits in silence at the pure bliss of being alive. Nobody I know wants to discuss relevant ideas about our symbiotic relationship with the planet and the universe. They just want to get shitfaced, make money, be popular and get laid. Nobody cares.

I realize my dread is counteractive to what I preach. I understand that, and I am not perfect. But why does it need to be an uphill battle, all the fucking time? Why can't I just live? I can't even remember the last time I just LIVED!! God, and God's brilliance is all around us. That which creates and sustains our cells is the same life force that's creating and sustaining our Universe. We are all connected, yet nobody wants to acknowledge it!

Being awakened is a lonely path..
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I can totally relate to you. bump
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It's a hard life, being aware of things that nobody else is aware of.

I've always been hypersensitive to things - overly aware of the bigger picture and always paying attention to the present moment. I consider myself a perpetual student of nature, science, and current events, and have literally devoted my entire personal time to answering my own questions, which bring answers, which bring questions.

Because of this, I've essentially ostracized myself from what we call "society." Being 25 years old, everyone I know (at least within my age bracket) is only concerned with making money, getting laid, and building their social network. In my research, I KNOW that this is irrelevant. Yet, I am immersed in this culture with no escape.

I desire simple things. To love, and be loved. To devote my life to expanding my capacity to love, and to gain wisdom from my experiences. I'm just so tired of fighting against the current of the status quo. I always feel like I'm on the brink of a mental breakdown because nobody knows what I'm feeling or how I'm thinking. I think I'm the most sane person that I know. Nobody else looks up in admiration at the stars, or smells the flowers growing wildly in their yard. Nobody I know focuses on deep yogic breathing, feeling the oxygen flow through their veins and pumping life energy throughout their body. Or sits in silence at the pure bliss of being alive. Nobody I know wants to discuss relevant ideas about our symbiotic relationship with the planet and the universe. They just want to get shitfaced, make money, be popular and get laid. Nobody cares.

I realize my dread is counteractive to what I preach. I understand that, and I am not perfect. But why does it need to be an uphill battle, all the fucking time? Why can't I just live? I can't even remember the last time I just LIVED!! God, and God's brilliance is all around us. That which creates and sustains our cells is the same life force that's creating and sustaining our Universe. We are all connected, yet nobody wants to acknowledge it!

Being awakened is a lonely path..
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To op.
[link to www.futureofmankind.co.uk]
I hope you have an open mind like an open door where anything can enter and leave comfortably with mind full of intellect and that no opportunity is ignorantly swayed away by very narrow tightly closed door. Tons of free information regarding explanations of everything in existence is on the link. You said you started from scratch once, i hope you're still hungry for more of everything.
Interestingly, all religions of this planet is explained in the site - its ignorances, delusions, enslavement, and unfortunate degeneration of human consciousness and spiritual evolution.
I should stop talking. The free information speaks by itself.
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Thank you! This looks great, I'm excited to read it. I am skeptical on its references, however. I have a hard time believing in anything that says it's from the Plejaren Federation from a different Solar System in the Milky Way. Most of this stuff is nonsense from con artists. I'll look into this Billy Meier character. Nevertheless I will give it a read.
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Have you tried hanging out with older people? Old hippies, perhaps?

I can absolutely relate to what you wrote, but I just fake it through my daily interactions with the general populace. I've found it the only way to get by (for me personally) and I have 10 years on ya.

If anyone has a better solution, please do share.
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yep, same here. the majority of british people behave like a robot and on public if you disagree about something in the shop thr looks u get from people are horrible. british people are lemmings they just follow the sheep. biggest arseholes.
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It's a hard life, being aware of things that nobody else is aware of.

I've always been hypersensitive to things - overly aware of the bigger picture and always paying attention to the present moment. I consider myself a perpetual student of nature, science, and current events, and have literally devoted my entire personal time to answering my own questions, which bring answers, which bring questions.

Because of this, I've essentially ostracized myself from what we call "society." Being 25 years old, everyone I know (at least within my age bracket) is only concerned with making money, getting laid, and building their social network. In my research, I KNOW that this is irrelevant. Yet, I am immersed in this culture with no escape.

I desire simple things. To love, and be loved. To devote my life to expanding my capacity to love, and to gain wisdom from my experiences. I'm just so tired of fighting against the current of the status quo. I always feel like I'm on the brink of a mental breakdown because nobody knows what I'm feeling or how I'm thinking. I think I'm the most sane person that I know. Nobody else looks up in admiration at the stars, or smells the flowers growing wildly in their yard. Nobody I know focuses on deep yogic breathing, feeling the oxygen flow through their veins and pumping life energy throughout their body. Or sits in silence at the pure bliss of being alive. Nobody I know wants to discuss relevant ideas about our symbiotic relationship with the planet and the universe. They just want to get shitfaced, make money, be popular and get laid. Nobody cares.

I realize my dread is counteractive to what I preach. I understand that, and I am not perfect. But why does it need to be an uphill battle, all the fucking time? Why can't I just live? I can't even remember the last time I just LIVED!! God, and God's brilliance is all around us. That which creates and sustains our cells is the same life force that's creating and sustaining our Universe. We are all connected, yet nobody wants to acknowledge it!

Being awakened is a lonely path..
 Quoting: Logos 22801908


You need to be aware of the ego constantly trying to butt in and make everything into something about it. That's the ego's job. You can't 'turn your mind off', but you can choose to ignore it. I am referring to the idea that you are 'alone', 'ostracized'. This is subjective, and it's also pretty common to feel this way. You're walking a path that many have walked before you, and many will walk after you. While you and I are discovering nothing new, it feels like it.

The reason why many people claim to feel ostracized is because they do it to themselves. You mentioned not being able to talk about things that interest you with others around you. If you're going to a bar with some friends and all you want to do is talk about God's love and sunshine and rainbows, well, I'm not sure I'd want you around either.

It's like people who can't stop talking about work, even in their off-time. I don't understand it. You have to be an honest judge about how in-your-face you are with your beliefs if that is the problem. Also, in regards to it being an uphill climb, that's the nature of life. It is steeped in adversity of every color and stripe.

I do find your post resonating with me also. I won't get into many details here, but as for my experience, just a few days after my 34th birthday I was in a car accident where I basically took a battle axe to the face. I was in a coma for a week and when I woke up, I can only describe it as feeling like I was in someone else's body. The story of 'The Norwalk Avenger' is about coming back from that feeling of oblivion. It also involves learning to do and say things when, as you pointed out, no one cares. It's true. Humans, at least run of the mill Americans, have very little time or sympathy for each otherm, beyond the civility of just moving out of the way on a crowded bus or responding to "Hello". You have to be, like Gandhi said ( I think ), the change in the world you wish to see. Therefore, it shouldn't matter if no one cares. It shouldn't matter if no one loves. It shouldn't matter if no one values interpersonal relationship - because YOU do. That's all that matters.

Learn to be a student and never a master. Don't pretend to teach anyone, just be an example of how to live. Help others connect to the source of unending, undying energy. Practice lots of random acts of kindness, don't treat money or time as "precious" because they really aren't. I could go on and on, but my thoughts in this area are not always in order. If you want to keep in touch, I do have a facebook page where I tend to keep some of my anti-establishment (and other) interests, if you look up 'The Norwalk Avenger', you may find something that interests you.

Oh, and for God's sake.. please, please, PLEASE don't breathlessly shout "AMAAAAAZING" at everything like those HerbaLife cultists do. It's so annoying.

I wish you the best. :)

-N-
 Quoting: The Norwalk Avenger


Excellent post. I am well aware of the egoic mind and have studied it for a few years now. While the ego is something I battle with, most people's egos are running their life while they sit back on autopilot. You can't stop the mind from running, you simply let it go on without you. I try to only use my mind as a tool to solve problems, and maintain a present and neutral state as much as possible. But I am not immune (yet) to my egoic desires. The OP, for example, is an earthly desire to connect with other people in a time of weakness.

I'm getting better at it. It all comes down to understanding and controlling my thoughts.

Like I said in another here, I am only considered "ostracized" and "introverted" because that's what this societal construct deems those behaviors to be. The English language is so subject to interpretation, that finding truth in any of it is a waste of time.
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I've been that way my whole life, OP. Mom abandoned my family when I was only 2, so did her whole side of the family, my Dad was never around and was at work all the time, didn't have friends growing up, teachers treated me like dirt. I dropped out of school when I was 16, battled with drugs, social anxiety and depression for over 10 years, just stopped caring over time, just don't let anger consume you, nothing positive comes from it at all.
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Wow-- you have had a very hard life. I am praying for you. Jesus loves you so, so, so very much. Some of us have lives of sorrow that mimic His life-- this can be a blessing because it can bestow great wisdom, faith and compassion on our spirits.
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It's a hard life, being aware of things that nobody else is aware of.

I've always been hypersensitive to things - overly aware of the bigger picture and always paying attention to the present moment. I consider myself a perpetual student of nature, science, and current events, and have literally devoted my entire personal time to answering my own questions, which bring answers, which bring questions.

Because of this, I've essentially ostracized myself from what we call "society." Being 25 years old, everyone I know (at least within my age bracket) is only concerned with making money, getting laid, and building their social network. In my research, I KNOW that this is irrelevant. Yet, I am immersed in this culture with no escape.

I desire simple things. To love, and be loved. To devote my life to expanding my capacity to love, and to gain wisdom from my experiences. I'm just so tired of fighting against the current of the status quo. I always feel like I'm on the brink of a mental breakdown because nobody knows what I'm feeling or how I'm thinking. I think I'm the most sane person that I know. Nobody else looks up in admiration at the stars, or smells the flowers growing wildly in their yard. Nobody I know focuses on deep yogic breathing, feeling the oxygen flow through their veins and pumping life energy throughout their body. Or sits in silence at the pure bliss of being alive. Nobody I know wants to discuss relevant ideas about our symbiotic relationship with the planet and the universe. They just want to get shitfaced, make money, be popular and get laid. Nobody cares.

I realize my dread is counteractive to what I preach. I understand that, and I am not perfect. But why does it need to be an uphill battle, all the fucking time? Why can't I just live? I can't even remember the last time I just LIVED!! God, and God's brilliance is all around us. That which creates and sustains our cells is the same life force that's creating and sustaining our Universe. We are all connected, yet nobody wants to acknowledge it!

Being awakened is a lonely path..
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Yeah I know exactly what it's like. Your not alone. Being the same age I know the utter frustration each day is having to live with or around the rest of the world. I think what helps me most is knowing that I can take comfort in my life and the things I treasure for they are not of this world; I am not of this world. I can take comfort in knowing that when the shit does hit the fan I will be prepared mentally and physically for what is to come and will be able to sit back and watch the world panic. I can take comfort in knowing and having an understanding of how fake, manufactured and ultimately predicable society is once you understand the game. It's people like us who will survive because our lives are not filled with lies and false hopes. We know or at least have a truer understanding about the world around us. As you said, God is all around us. Once we understand this we begin to understand the very fabric upon which life is built and functions. Society today is a manufactured disease infecting all that have fallen for the deception. Though we would want to live away from society and be alone I believe we have been allowed this understanding so we may spread the word to all those who will listen. As Jesus said "And whoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when you depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Matt 10:14". This is how I like to look at it. Tell them once. Make them aware. Give them a choice. If they choose to not listen then so be it and move on. If they choose to listen then be glad another is saved from the world and begin to feed their curiosities and hunger for understanding. But any ways stay strong you are not alone even though all around you it seems that way.
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It's a hard life, being aware of things that nobody else is aware of.

I've always been hypersensitive to things - overly aware of the bigger picture and always paying attention to the present moment. I consider myself a perpetual student of nature, science, and current events, and have literally devoted my entire personal time to answering my own questions, which bring answers, which bring questions.

Because of this, I've essentially ostracized myself from what we call "society." Being 25 years old, everyone I know (at least within my age bracket) is only concerned with making money, getting laid, and building their social network. In my research, I KNOW that this is irrelevant. Yet, I am immersed in this culture with no escape.

I desire simple things. To love, and be loved. To devote my life to expanding my capacity to love, and to gain wisdom from my experiences. I'm just so tired of fighting against the current of the status quo. I always feel like I'm on the brink of a mental breakdown because nobody knows what I'm feeling or how I'm thinking. I think I'm the most sane person that I know. Nobody else looks up in admiration at the stars, or smells the flowers growing wildly in their yard. Nobody I know focuses on deep yogic breathing, feeling the oxygen flow through their veins and pumping life energy throughout their body. Or sits in silence at the pure bliss of being alive. Nobody I know wants to discuss relevant ideas about our symbiotic relationship with the planet and the universe. They just want to get shitfaced, make money, be popular and get laid. Nobody cares.

I realize my dread is counteractive to what I preach. I understand that, and I am not perfect. But why does it need to be an uphill battle, all the fucking time? Why can't I just live? I can't even remember the last time I just LIVED!! God, and God's brilliance is all around us. That which creates and sustains our cells is the same life force that's creating and sustaining our Universe. We are all connected, yet nobody wants to acknowledge it!

Being awakened is a lonely path..
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To op.
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I hope you have an open mind like an open door where anything can enter and leave comfortably with mind full of intellect and that no opportunity is ignorantly swayed away by very narrow tightly closed door. Tons of free information regarding explanations of everything in existence is on the link. You said you started from scratch once, i hope you're still hungry for more of everything.
Interestingly, all religions of this planet is explained in the site - its ignorances, delusions, enslavement, and unfortunate degeneration of human consciousness and spiritual evolution.
I should stop talking. The free information speaks by itself.
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Thank you! This looks great, I'm excited to read it. I am skeptical on its references, however. I have a hard time believing in anything that says it's from the Plejaren Federation from a different Solar System in the Milky Way. Most of this stuff is nonsense from con artists. I'll look into this Billy Meier character. Nevertheless I will give it a read.
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I really wish you give it try. You know what, ur the first person not to decline to at least read something or anything about his words. Average persons just dump the idea the moment they hear the name. Seems a few sentences of debunkers relating to meier satisfied them so much that they blind themselves from a fact that he made THOUSANDS if not millions of sentences about EVERYTHING. I dont mean you to believe him, the person himself. I wish you READ the words.
Also, that free site gives mega tons of infos that require YEARS if not lifetime to finish not mentioning his at least 60 paid books. Me im just 4 months since i heard the name. Im still struggling within myself and not yet completely free thats why i have minute progress. You on the otherhand seems to be highly aware and consiously more evloved. Im sure you get fast progress.
Good luck then, i hope i can be free if not free-er as you are.
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OP...If i were your age I'd leave this souless country..

try Russia....or a Latin American nation
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It's a hard life, being aware of things that nobody else is aware of.

I've always been hypersensitive to things - overly aware of the bigger picture and always paying attention to the present moment. I consider myself a perpetual student of nature, science, and current events, and have literally devoted my entire personal time to answering my own questions, which bring answers, which bring questions.

Because of this, I've essentially ostracized myself from what we call "society." Being 25 years old, everyone I know (at least within my age bracket) is only concerned with making money, getting laid, and building their social network. In my research, I KNOW that this is irrelevant. Yet, I am immersed in this culture with no escape.

I desire simple things. To love, and be loved. To devote my life to expanding my capacity to love, and to gain wisdom from my experiences. I'm just so tired of fighting against the current of the status quo. I always feel like I'm on the brink of a mental breakdown because nobody knows what I'm feeling or how I'm thinking. I think I'm the most sane person that I know. Nobody else looks up in admiration at the stars, or smells the flowers growing wildly in their yard. Nobody I know focuses on deep yogic breathing, feeling the oxygen flow through their veins and pumping life energy throughout their body. Or sits in silence at the pure bliss of being alive. Nobody I know wants to discuss relevant ideas about our symbiotic relationship with the planet and the universe. They just want to get shitfaced, make money, be popular and get laid. Nobody cares.

I realize my dread is counteractive to what I preach. I understand that, and I am not perfect. But why does it need to be an uphill battle, all the fucking time? Why can't I just live? I can't even remember the last time I just LIVED!! God, and God's brilliance is all around us. That which creates and sustains our cells is the same life force that's creating and sustaining our Universe. We are all connected, yet nobody wants to acknowledge it!

Being awakened is a lonely path..
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And may God (or whatever you believe in) bless you!
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It's a trap. all of it!!!!
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Damn. Sorry it started so young for you.

It's not an easy path to walk thru life. But it's not a bad one in all ways, either. You must look at what you avoid, what you do not have to put up with, and what you can pour your time and energy into that you'd otherwise squander doing things because your "age group appropriate peers" say they are "expected or normal". So there are benefits and freedoms that you are overlooking right now... just remember they exist.

If you have not done so already, get in touch with God - however you perceive him to be. And ask him to guide your life, to give you HIS plan for your life, and the strength and willingness to carry out that plan. I honestly believe that we do not know what makes us truly happy and often we spend a whole lifetime looking for that elusive thing - only to find that it was right under our nose all along yet, somehow we missed it.

True happiness and a joy in living comes from having our lives in sync with what God's plan for our lives really is. All you have to do is ask and be willing to allow him to guide you. The things that will bring you the greatest joy will be put into your life and you will find that perhaps, they'll be difficult at first, they will quickly feel that you are where you are supposed to be. The people who are meant to share this life with you will quickly come along, including your soul mate and your dearest friends.

I know it sounds "hokey" and "weird" to tell this to someone of your tender years. It's hard to even imagine that the Creator of this world cares about you and spent time discussing and planning your life - long before you were put here to enjoy his creation and do his bidding for whatever time you are to be given.

But it is true. He knows the numbers of the hairs on your head. Not one sparrow falls but he and his angels know it.

Your generation has a great blessing that you probably do not even know about. You are probably the generation that will see Jesus Christ return and claim this planet and undo the damaage that man has done to all of creation with his pollution, his sin, his falling away from GOD and serving Satan. All of that is about to be righted. All of it is about to be repaired. And your generation will probably be the ones alive on this earth to see it happen. While a time of great suffering, it will also be a time of great miracles and a time of great JOY. Joy beyond your imagination.

The bible tells us that there is a generation - a generation who see's Israel become a nation again, and that Generation will not need to know death in the physical sense. They will be alive and living on earth when Christ returns - and they will not die but will be changed in the twinkling of an eye. They will be given a new body to house their immortal soul. A body that does not suffer from disease, or sickness, or death. Again, I know it sounds weird but the bible tells us it will happen when Jesus Christ returns to gather his people and set up his 1000 year rule on earth which happens here at the end of man's history on this planet.

The world is about to be changed in was you can scarcely imagine. And you are here at this time in history for a reason. Your loneliness and feeling of being not a part of this "society" is for a good reason. Perhaps you have been set apart to serve the will of God when he does return. Perhaps you have a purpose far beyond your wildest dreams only you cannot see it just yet.

I am not a religious "nut case" but I did come to know the Lord many years ago - and then I was hurt, angry and walked away from all I knew to be true and dove into the the worst kind of sin, drugs, sex, etc., and was stuck in that morass of evil for almost thirty-five years. Then one night in a fit of drunken desperation and clarity all mixed together, I cried out to God to either take me out of here or show me why I was here and what I was supposed to be doing. A voice in my heart said "I've been waiting to hear from you again. It's been a long time by your standards. Welcome home again, son." With that, I began to change my life in ways I would never have imagined. I learned things I never dreamed existed. And I came to know what it is to have a relationship with my Creator.

Don't wait thirty-five or forty years like I did. I missed so much. I have a strong sense of what "might have been" had my own stuborness an fear not gotten in the way. If I had learned to let go and let God run the show many years ago, I think I might have done some very good things for this world. But those are opportunities I lost in my drunken and drugged out days. (The good thing about those days is that I barely remember most of them. That alone is a great blessing - believe me. Sometimes you do not want to know all the details.

So there is my best advice this Morning we call Easter. The day we celebrate Christ's rising from the grave and showing all mankind that we do not have to be subject to death nor will we all go into the grave and rot forever. There is something MUCH more important in store for us - and your generation may well be here to see it. Talk to GOD. He is always there and he always responds. You may have a future far more glorious and far more satisfying than you ever dreamed - and all you have to do is ask Him to show you the way and give you the strength and willingness to do his will for your life. Then stand back. Miracles will happen. GOD is real. And he can change your mind your heart, or he can choose to change the very planet we live on. The power he has is without limitation. He asks only that you come into your right relationship with him. Oh, and don't worry. No one get's it right. Jesus died on the cross to atone for the sins of all mankind. Past, present, and future. That included you and me. All that is necessary is that you accept that precious gift of his atonement for your sins and that you then let God come into your life and change it. Change it for the better. There is no downside here. There is only a future you have only dreamed of. Embrace it with all your heart and live each day with your best friend and Savior walking beside you.

Enjoy this time. You're going to see miracles take place before your very eyes. You may be performing some of those miracles, too! Who knows what His plan for your life may be??
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Rise, let us see you,
Dawning is the day,
Miss, misty meadow,
You will find your way,
Wake up in the morning to yourself and leave this crazy life behind you.
Listen, we're trying to find you.

Flow to the sea,
You know where to go,
Still we are free,
No one tells the wind which way to blow.
Wake up in the morning to yourself,
Open your eyes and start to be you.
Listen, we think we can see you.
Baby there's no price upon your head,
Sing it, shout it.
Now the angry words have all been said.
Do it, don't doubt it.

So rise, let us see you,
Dawning is the day,
Miss, misty meadow,
You will find your way,
Wake up in the morning to yourself, open your head and look around you.
Listen, we think we have found you.

Moody Blues
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You're not alone, there's a lot of us out there, but it is a small percentage. Go to a new age book store, a lecture on earth changes, yoga classes... (spiritual type), a Buddhist temple, IDK where you are on this planet, but google will find you something... Peace
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To op.
A recommendation.
Please try - navigation list, categories, spirit teaching, an introduction to the spirit teaching.
To me, this fits good for initiation. Thats quite long though but all words from him and his other world friends are really of clarity, preciseness, direct to the point and intelletually easy to grasp and thinkable. Its like the clearness of black and white, of light and dark. No vagueness. No dull and stunting words.
Personally, i can prematurely conclude that since ive read his written words, all i want to do now with my entire life, literally of my entire life. Is. To learn. And continue to exist. And live. Explore. Oh so much i want to do. I really want. But i still need to battle myself.
I hope i win though. I really hope.
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Oh sorry. I said earlier id stop talking. I will now. Sorry i stupidly forgot.
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No, you are not. You will learn this in old age.

You will learn that Humans are fragile animals, that are but grains of sand in the Universe.

Old age will grind you down, and eventually teach you this.

You will balk one day at such a statement, when you arthritis is so bad you can barely open your hand.

YOU are not a god. YOU are not a creator. YOU are flesh and bones that die, and on your way to the grave will suffer greatly.

That is all YOU are.
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I feel you have been deceived in some way.

I wish to communicate with you no more because you will drain my positive energy in a vain attempt to overcome your own fears, and insecurities.
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Heh missed that one completely "mage". Ego and the other is the point here..
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A quote from the Tudors that I have adopted:

"Honor all the gods, drink the wine and let the world be the world"

This world has always been fucked up. All we need to do is find another planet that has people on it just like us. Then they will solve all our problems. But, what if we are smarter than they are.

lmao
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based on your birthday (not knowing time, nor location) 12/21/1987 25 yo yes?

You are just at the end of Sagittarius, beginning of Capricorn. Your moon is also Capricorn. It's a tough moon.. wants love and affection but has a hard time letting guard down.

"Your Sagittarius impulsiveness and rashness benefit from the propriety and reliability inherent in Capricorn. Ambition is channeled toward higher learning and thought. Your life has form and order, and you go about your affairs in a methodical fashion. There is an aura of respectability about all aspects of your life. Your love life, however, can be somewhat less rewarding. You seem self-contained, and you find difficulty in letting go enough to accept another human being. Ruled by your ambitious and practical nature, you approach others with caution, often suspicion. You are very curious and want to know the answer to every question that comes to mind. As you grow older, you will become interested in finding out how the universe works in the broadest terms. The key to a more harmonious self lies in achieving a proper balance between your impulsive, optimistic, individuality and your steadfast, plodding personality. Try to retain the buoyancy without giving free reign to flightiness. "

Venus in Capricorn
"You keep your feelings under control, and at times you may find it difficult to make friends. This is because you express your feelings more seriously than most people your age. However, make sure that your relationships are not based solely on what others can do for you.

You are not self-indulgent and you can control your desires quite well. You will plan very carefully how to be rather thrifty. You are at your best doing everything in moderation. "
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It's a hard life, being aware of things that nobody else is aware of.

I've always been hypersensitive to things - overly aware of the bigger picture and always paying attention to the present moment. I consider myself a perpetual student of nature, science, and current events, and have literally devoted my entire personal time to answering my own questions, which bring answers, which bring questions.

Because of this, I've essentially ostracized myself from what we call "society." Being 25 years old, everyone I know (at least within my age bracket) is only concerned with making money, getting laid, and building their social network. In my research, I KNOW that this is irrelevant. Yet, I am immersed in this culture with no escape.

I desire simple things. To love, and be loved. To devote my life to expanding my capacity to love, and to gain wisdom from my experiences. I'm just so tired of fighting against the current of the status quo. I always feel like I'm on the brink of a mental breakdown because nobody knows what I'm feeling or how I'm thinking. I think I'm the most sane person that I know. Nobody else looks up in admiration at the stars, or smells the flowers growing wildly in their yard. Nobody I know focuses on deep yogic breathing, feeling the oxygen flow through their veins and pumping life energy throughout their body. Or sits in silence at the pure bliss of being alive. Nobody I know wants to discuss relevant ideas about our symbiotic relationship with the planet and the universe. They just want to get shitfaced, make money, be popular and get laid. Nobody cares.

I realize my dread is counteractive to what I preach. I understand that, and I am not perfect. But why does it need to be an uphill battle, all the fucking time? Why can't I just live? I can't even remember the last time I just LIVED!! God, and God's brilliance is all around us. That which creates and sustains our cells is the same life force that's creating and sustaining our Universe. We are all connected, yet nobody wants to acknowledge it!

Being awakened is a lonely path..
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It's because you realize how unnatural society truly is.
A financial system where a private family is in charge of money creation and there is no limit to the amount they can create out of thin air, which creates a debt to big to ever be repaid, yet we must all pay into a system that every second of the day isn't enough to run the system.

You realize that banks and corporations have taken over government, a kind of reverse fascist system that we fought against during world war 2, where instead of a dictator taking over corporations, the corporations are taking over and installing a dictator. The biggest corporation of coarse being the United States Government.

You understand that they know something big is about to happen, and have been preparing for it for years. Underground bunkers, rumors of man made global warming, and now every single mass animal die off, ice cap melt off, pole shifts, asteroids, comets, they are all treated as no news at all, nothing to see here, move along.

You understand we have a medical industry designed to keep us sick, an FDA designed to keep us using genetically modified foods, while chemtrails rain down on us. A banking industry without enough money to go around, a education system designed to train us while we sit in front of our tel-u-a-visions on a nightly basis and soak up our programs.

You also understand by now that these people are not godless, they worship a giant alters built out in the middle of the woods in front of a giant owls while literally burning their cares away.

All of this is just the stuff that is no longer conspiracy.

Yes it is painful.

The way I have found to deal with it, is to keep searching for truth, while pretending to not notice what is really going on. Also keep preparing for the worst, because that is exactly what our government is doing.

You are also wise, if you want to know what is going on in the world, watch 2 things. What the powers that be are doing, not saying, and what nature is telling you.

godspeed good luck, and I hope you find an inner balance.

You chose the red pill, now ignore the bullets flying at your face and do something.
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