Did you think you were the only one looking through your eyes?

New age bullshit

Move along folks

exactly, but u won't get this bozo to realize it.

Haters gonna hate :)

You talk like you know what I'm talking about, go ahead and group me with new age crap and dismiss what makes you uncomfortable...

Whatever, to each their own.

Lol, yeah this demon possessed bozo, jeez, you guys must feel so cool to talk down to people and assume what they're talking about.

Seems sort of dense.

Yeah, this whole time I've been preaching demon possession, because I'm full of demons. The demons tell me to tell people to get into a trance and channel entities to enter their bodies with blood sacrifice...

This demon bozo, lol...

I would care more if your criticisms actually held weight.

Alright I'll explain myself again, less new agey this time, and pass it up if you honestly don't care, go ahead and label me and these ideas, I have yet to read a criticism that has actually impacted me or my beliefs, share what you want and I will share what I want.

There's more to life then we know. Nature/evolution collects all the data that goes on, including our everyday lives. This is my opinion.

Some children have a sense that they are on a stage and showing invisible people all the things that they do. I think this is true, I don't think it's strictly demons that "watch" us, it's a whole variety of different consciousness.

There's no science book that would verify this to you, and religions would label this as demon engagement, both limited paradigms that don't actually describe reality IMO.

I've had paranormal experiences, yes, I used entheogens, my choice, either brush me off or consider what I share, honestly I don't care - I share these ideas and these experiences because this is the type of information I am passionate about, and hopefully run across others who can enrich me, I have no ulterior motives.

I have been in other worlds, and talked with "demons" sure, and I've talked with "non-demons" - it's just like people in the world, some people are assholes and other people feel like family.

I have no control over what's out there, I can only report how I've managed each circumstance to the best of my ability, and use these same ideas/techniques to control my inner world in everyday life.

I'm aware, IMO, of a subtle layer to life which is usually unnoticed by 98% of people, but it's there, always has been, don't see it going anywhere.

IMO, if I'm aware of this, take control of it, then I'm not so easy to fuck with, I'm not afraid of any of these presences, I can take control of my life.

I see how people think I'm opening a can of worms for people who are already crazy, you know what, if I can talk to the crazy people and help them manage their inner world, not talk down to them, share some common insight, that feels good to me, take it or leave it, assume what you will.

The most important aspect of this, is upon death IMO, this subtle reality becomes the important one, and we can either navigate it and handle it, or we succumb to being overwhelmed by reality and the best option is for the spirit to be "put back to sleep" for their own sake, for another series of lifetimes...

My opinions, that's all, take it or leave it :)

Too much Being Malcovich for you dude!!

Hey Israel,

Breathe buddy :)

Try to not overwhelm yourself, make joy and relaxation your goal, be at peace, that's going to be good for everyone :)

When we get maniacal and intense, we embody this intensity, we can become drowned in it.

I want to discuss this stuff fully, but at the same time, I want to emphasize balance and calmness, this is how we take control of our inner world IMO.

It's no different from people with anxiety developing thoughtful consideration to calm anxiety and be a more relaxed and balanced person.

There is more to our internal state than we know IMO, but the basics are no different than simply being the best person we can be.

One of my favorite breathing techniques you may find interesting...

Take a deep breath in and hold that breath in with your airways open, constantly "breathing in" I call it the constant breath, there is a stillness to this constant breath that reflects a calm balance IMO...

Let me know what you'd like to talk about next, if anything, I'll keep an eye out ;)

Lol, I don't know what that means, but okay sure.

so we are looking thru each others eyes?

I know what your talking about, I've had similar experiences...

First off, discernment is king, you've got to be careful when we start to consciously explore these subtle communications.

Some argue it's better to avoid it altogether, I don't completely disagree, the protection we are afforded is precious and should be appreciated, at the same time, to be completely unaware of the subtle realms around us is another polar extreme as well...

This is why discernment is king, it's important here and it's important there.

Truly, if this is true, which I believe it is, we can only avoid the other realms for so long...

So we might as well start figuring out how to be a strong spirit, defend ourselves, discern, remain sovereign - while we have the "training wheels" and safety of this planet - this is intended IMO, that we train here to prepare for out there, like a planetary seed pod preparing seeds before they spread into the universe...

We speak to them through our thoughts IMO, its when we ask ourselves a question and we have a gut response, usually our mind gets in the way and we discount the "little voice" - some would call it their sense of morality, their "conscience" - that is the small passage way which leads from us to home IMO...

As though we are in a remote controlled body with 25% of our full consciousness at any given time - that voice which "knows better" is our full self IMO, and that connection is our conscience - lots of things like to get between us and that part of us which knows better, there are thoughts which are "less real", less "us" - which get between us and our best selves, it's ultra important to recognize the difference in quality of thought, does the root of a thought lead to our "heart" our "conscience" - or does a thought come from the "materialistic world", motivated by "urges" rather than "reason" and/or "care" - this distinction and navigating through the myriad of "influences" is part of the game of hurdles we are growing through...

This process is one of the interfaces of evolution IMO, not an easy one at that...

We have many different aspects of self doing all sorts of things all the time IMO, we see through this aspect presently, this is an important aspect of self and an important set of evolutionary "difficulties" to generate data for.

This is the type of stuff the universe is figuring out.

So the lines are open, it's subtle though, and usually overlooked, if we take the time to listen, then you will hear, just be careful and aware, because it's not all good out there, just like how it's not all good here...

One time while on ayuhuasca time sped up for about a minute, I got the feeling some entity was "fast forwarding" through that part to get to the next one...

Not exactly, but in a sense, yes.

In "normal life" when we put ourselves in other peoples shoes, enacting "empathy" we are doing a form of what I'm speaking of.

In a bigger picture, I'm saying there are other aspects of ourself which are not in this body, yet remotely control this body.

There is a whole family of consciousness, which we are an equal member of, which observe this world and our everyday lives, like scientists who want to observe, learn and grow.

This has nothing to do with demon possession, it has to do with being aware there is a chain of presences which make up the natural order of reality around us.

We have devoted quite a portion of our focus to this world, enough to embody upon it, we wanted to get "closer to the experiment" - there are MANY who observe here, who influence and engage with this world, and humans are many times the interface of this subtle observation...

At least, in my experiences, this seems to be what's going on, and others seem to have experienced the exact same thing I'm talking about...

It's up to each individual to decide for themselves what is true, this is my truth :)

From starting this thread I've thought of the phrase: "One man's truth is another man's laughter." Lol...

So be it.

couldnt also those things be considered higher consciousness? i followed your original post to where it made somewhat sence to me and what a few others commented to you. i think you called them 'beings' at onepoint? and i think im stuck on the idea of that to me it is just a created form of consciousness in away not a being?

Yeah, my vehicle of choice was DMT, I've since stopped it, I got my house haunted and life became too real too quickly, I've been able to balance and heal my life, stronger and more aware than ever, so I quit while I was ahead, I'm certain this path, with its bumps, has been my destiny for growth.

And so I'm sharing my notes, I've been sharing my notes from "beyond" in many ways for many years, those who appreciate it bring me joy and growth and those who challenge me bring me strength and growth...

I'm open to be convinced I'm 100% full of shit, it just has to feel more right, and that has yet to happen.

If the skeptics could only have experienced the same things, or cared to experience it, then they would know what I'm talking about, but this world is under lock and key in many respects, so for more stubborn types, who have been lulled into status quo, there is no convincing them of anything except a car in the driveway and food on the table.

Under lock and key...

Tell me though, where did the reality come from that provides the car and the food and the body? Well, we just don't think or talk about those kinds of things...

Funny how certain talk is automatically written-off, stubborn views of reality have a way of defending themselves, lol...

Or how science discounts everything as materialistic while ignoring the actual sense of being, you didn't have a near death experience about your father, you had a chemical reaction that triggered the emotional center of the brain in a random firing that resembled the feeling of your father, always looking at the trees without acknowledging a forest, way to always miss the point out of insecurity science *applause...

Also, under lock and key...

Even though I'm opinionated, I do respect each truth and each person, I ask for the same respect.

But anyways, yes, in these states, there is A LOT going on, it seems you were feeling similar feelings I've gone through, I wonder if there's entities around us all the time and we simply don't realize it unless we become sensitive to it?

Sure, it is a confusing distinction in general, thank you for caring enough and being open enough to clarify...

IMO, the higher consciousness is a being of consciousness, is you, your full self, a being beyond light, beyond this universe, remotely connected from another layer of reality altogether - my best description.

What you make clear in your question, is that it doesn't really mater if its seen as a being or simply seen as more full awareness, it honestly makes little difference in normal life application.

In my experiences, if I had to be specific, there are literally hoards of entities which make up reality around us, thoughts, matter, light, ect...

It all becomes alive, and literally are many individuals, each leaf, each rock, IMO from my experiences this is closer to the truth - but for normal life application, as you make clear, it can be seen as varieties of consciousness, and change little about the theory in practice.

It is a tricky distinction in the first place, and I appreciate you getting that specific so I could clarify, thank you :)

have you noticed anything in relation to time? like the way events unfold or take place have you noticed anything within that realm recently? or have any expereince with that?

i wouldnt mind sharing or discussing things in this thread.
or what have you been expereincing? i have noidea where to start

Please, this is a totally open discussion, lol, feel free to share anything and everything, helps me seem like less of a lone nut, lol :)

Oh man, yes I've had some interesting perspectives on time occur...

Specifically about the "refresh rate" of a moment, how one moment in the future prepares to take its place in the present, then just as quickly passes into the echos of the past.

As though the next moment is in line waiting, things happen in the present which define the next moment, then it falls into place seamlessly and is perceived as fluid motion.

I've considered how reality itself must have had an "euraka" moment when space and time could be experienced seamlessly as fluid motion, rather than isolated instances, experience itself could be an unending series of linked moments, essentially a sand box which one could build with, utilize permanence and "stack" experience in a logical flow of progression, and this passage of time has a specific rate to it, not too fast, not too slow, an unending series of linked moments...

And then, if the biological hardware is present, one could mold the fluid of time just as we mold the atoms around us, you have to really know what you're doing because things can get screwed-up, getting locked in isolated time loops for instance.

I had an experience which attempted to explain to me how a universe is seeded and started, and time travel was involved.

The "seed" would carry all possible configurations of a universe, this seed is then placed "back in time" to an unoccupied space of time/space...

This seed, by design, then unfolds in moments, and because the seed has all the future coding inherent, the unfolding occurs in a known progression, reconfigurable along the way as each possible configuration is inherent to the whole, like a fractal...

Because of this usage of "time travel" there is technically no beginning and technically no end, simply the looping moment of progression and reconfiguration in one way or another...

This is how realities work, apparently, lol...

I think we come from these crazy other light dimensions, where we had all these abilities, and now we're doing the difficult work of reconsidering all the different levels of creation, taking responsibility for our creations, a sort of rehab - so that when we return to these "higher" levels of existence, we're a bit more sober, more responsible with these abilities, the gravity of such actions carries more weight: "how would this action, say effect a human-like being on a physical level of consciousness three dimensions over? Where things are slow and take great deals of focus to work with?" Well now we have such an important point of reference, how could we be hasty with our abilities after such intimate experiences under our belt? :)

How things unfold, there's a whole "chain of command" in a manner of speaking, its comprised of our consciousness, the surrounding consciousnesses, the consciousness of the planet, each planet, the solar system as a whole, each star (stars we can see at night have a direct connection of influence with this place IMO) as well as the galaxy as a whole having a certain influence...

So it plays out like what's best for everyone IMO. Is money and fun what is most appropriate to experience for x and y person? Usually its not fun and games, though sometimes that is important as well for people who have problems enjoying themselves, jaded stubborn sages for instance...

When we see everything as connected and influential, there's little we would actually change IMO, a version of ourself whom seems to "know better" is in charge of orchestrating our experience, we are the experiencing aspect, not necessarily the orchestrator aspect, though we influence the orchestration very closely, our lives are like "head's up displays" to indicate so much about ourselves and our state of being, again I wonder how much we would actually change when looking at the true bigger picture?

This is the tough work which needs to be done by someone, and we're here doing it by our own choice IMO, since no one else would dare do it, lol...

Too much limitation, too scary, stripped to barebones and then built back up takes a lot of vulnerability, trust, humility, strength, to grapple pointlessness itself, utter loneliness, the need to feed for survival, once a being responded to me: "Why would anyone want to do that!?"

After thinking about that, I would say: "Because you're not ready to do it yet for yourself." She was very attached to her position of power and her abilities in this space...

IMO you have to get sick and tired of the other dimensions to take this difficult route to account for, build responsibility and renew...

The tallest order in the Universe :)

Please, add your own insight or commentary on this subject :)

In schizphrenia, there is what is called 'thought insertion' where thoughts seemingly from another intelligence are inserted into your mind. Then there is also 'thought deletion' where thoughts that were going through your mind are suddenly ripped away, so fast and so ultimately that you can't even remember what you were just thinking about. It is done by these 'watchers' of course.

When the 'watchers' decide to integrate with the human host's nervous system more completely, they can do things like channeled writing, speaking in tongues, etc. It is easiest when a person is in a trance mode, but if they want the watchers can integrate even further so that they can move your body when you are fully awake, even against your will...this is generally labeled as 'kundalini awakening' 'spontaneous movements' 'qigong sickness,' etc. Its merely a deeper level of integration into a nervous system.

The entity/entities who access my nervous system can move my body around as easily as I can, talk through my mouth, etc.

Then there are people who are 'vectors' for these watchers, they have strong 'shakti' and can vector the intelligences into other people's nervous systems so that a deeper integration takes place in them. They call this 'shaktipat'
in Hinduism. It happens in Qigong too:

"Dr. Yan Xin, a Chinese Qigong master known to most of the over one billion people in China, gave a talk in San Francisco in 1991. Seventeen hundred devotees, most of them Chinese, showed up at the Masonic auditorium to listen to Yan. The San Francisco Chronicle on may, 16 1991 reported that "minutes into his talk, several began experiencing what Yan Xin calls spontaneous movements." The Chronicle reporter said that "before long, the scene resembled a Pentecostal prayer meeting with many people waving their arms and making unintelligible sounds." Yan told his audience, "Those who are sensitive might start having some strong physical sensations - or start laughing or crying. Don't worry. This is quite normal.""

These watchers can create emotions, thoughts, lay on whole concepts, affect parts of your brain to make you dissociated from normal reality- even cause astral travel, sleep paralysis, create full body orgasms, various body sensations, and more.

They are bioelectric masters. No one really knows what they truly are...so many theories, but they never do tell do they?

Well, I appreciate your insight, it does feel a bit diminutive, but I appreciate it none the less.

That sounds like quite some nasty entities possessing people. Makes me think of Benny Hinn...

Yeah that's the nasty side to this reality I speak of, people who have this issue are many times left cast-out to sea without any attempt of understanding or empathy, and apparently that's just the way it is.

It's really unfortunate, because we either end up pointing the finger or joining cults, a spiritual mess really, which doesn't do anything about the "point" but rather becomes consumed by social assumptions...

So yes, schizophrenia is an easy way to describe certain qualities of what I'm talking about, but it's a frustrating label because it doesn't seem to really go anywhere...

I personally have a distaste of kundalini, channeling, ascended masters, anything which threatens our individuality - I understand it sounds like I'm all for this stuff, but there's a difference between understanding something and applying it...

I don't have a problem with spiritual observers whom leave well enough alone, but when spirits start making nests for themselves, operating the body, talking through you, that's not cool.

In fact, a goal of talking about this stuff, is to empower people who have this going on in their lives, to take charge and take control over their inner world...

This is a very real circumstance, the intensity and commonality differs from person to person, but I believe the "unseen" effects every person whether they realize it or not.

I would prefer to be aware of it and take charge, rather than deny it and join the herd, to each their own.

I'm not sure if you're being slightly sarcastic or not, but whatever, I truly appreciate your input :)

What you've mentioned here that is truly noteworthy, is the fact that these non-physical presences have zero problem influencing our world, taking advantage of people and manipulating reality 100% from behind the scenes.

That has ALWAYS rubbed me the wrong way...

And the non-physical presences which are accounted for in cultures, try to take credit for creating the universe, request blood sacrifices and maintain a suggested dominion over humanity...

NOT COOL, lol...

I'm cool with the sun, that consciousness seems legit, lol, and the earth is a real warrior of a spirit, I couldn't imagine carrying the load she takes for as long as she has, so I'm cool with them.

And I do think there is "good" out there/in here...

But these other presences, if you regard them according to the quality of their works, come off rather malevolent, jealous, parasitic, not so great...

I'm sure I'm probably "in trouble" with some of these beings, but whatever, these kind of ideas are important IMO, it's worth it :)

I can take it, I hope, lol...

OP, it's me again, signed in this time.

I got to tell you, I concluded that either:

1. My entire nervous/skin system was an entity separate from me, or

2. I had the Holy Spirit and it was mad at me for trying to cast it out. I had accepted Christ since a child, and maybe the Holy Spirit sort of becomes one with our skin and nervous system? Before this, I had no idea it was a real entity that could communicate.

I decided 2. was correct as after that it went on to replace both messed up knees, fix my heart, and it acts like it loves me. It must be something very few Christians have.

Could it be Jesus himself?

I started looking differently at the world, forgiving everyone, I could no longer go to scary movies or listen to people cuss, etc.

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Not sure if this is what you're talking about, but recently while sitting in a room full of coworkers, for a moment I realized I didn't know any of these people, or where I was. I remember thinking "this looks like a cool place to work" ... boy was I wrong about that. It was like for a second I was someone else, or someone else was looking through my eyes and I was thinking their thoughts. Makes me wonder if we don't at times link up or momentarily switch with our alternate selves in some other reality.

And, I can now visibly see the spirits in everything.

I used to be a great Harry Potter fan, but after I saw huge spirits in the clouds moving thru the sky carrying a statue of Harry Potter with his wand extended, I realized it was...

the principals and powers of the air exalting Harry Potter, and this made me sick because I realized the Devil was proud of Harry Potter.

So I never even saw the last two or three movies.

Last Edited by Who is Blue Fairy on 04/12/2013 03:17 AM

Really?

Have you noticed an increase in the general 'energy' of the air?

I have in the past few days

The whole thing with me has been going on since 2010. First I noticed them in cell phone videos, then they started showing up everywhere. I can tell by this what is evil and what is not.

If your generally feeling more energy, you must be getting contacted by either the good or the evil. The evil will make you feel hopeless and suicidal, the good optimistic and joyful. The good is God, or Jesus, you know.

Last Edited by Who is Blue Fairy on 04/12/2013 03:20 AM

Interesting.

Can you do it by proxy?

Read the New Testament a lot, pray, and ask God to keep the evil away.

im trying i read your post lastnight but i am in a very challanging place on me right now so its difficult to discuss things in detail, you were on many topics and it was to much for any kind of reply.

there was a time i went thru an expereince. it had something to do with another form of energy i refered to it as another dimension, and in someway i felt i had the way to make it a reality, my situation drasitcally after that realization. i went thru a intence period of my life for many many years.

im not sure why im saying this i think it touches on something that can maybe be discussed in someway, i am not trying to make this about memememe. but this is the only way i knew how to somewhat touch upon something.