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Jehovah Witnesses and the Holy Trinity

 
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Can anyone thoroughly explain to me why JW's do not believe in the doctrine of the holy trinity? Or have the belief that Jesus is God and connected to the father? It has to be a reason for this.

I figure if they consider themselves Christians, then it would only be right to believe that Jesus is God correct?
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Can anyone thoroughly explain to me why JW's do not believe in the doctrine of the holy trinity? Or have the belief that Jesus is God and connected to the father? It has to be a reason for this.

I figure if they consider themselves Christians, then it would only be right to believe that Jesus is God correct?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19776517


because its not true. What you believe is totally FALSE. The holy trinity are personalized space forces that run the creation, as one group. It is not Daddy God, Jesus the only son of Daddy god, and that strange holy spirit thing you believe. I am sorry but the 2nd Person Trinity is a spirtual forces that pulls you ever higher spiritually. It is not Jesus
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King James 1611 edition

23 Behold, a Uirgin shall be with childe, and shall bring foorth a sonne, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted, is, God with us.)

The holy trinity as far as i know are the father son and the holy ghost.
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King James 1611 edition

23 Behold, a Uirgin shall be with childe, and shall bring foorth a sonne, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted, is, God with us.)

The holy trinity as far as i know are the father son and the holy ghost.
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You understand the Holy trinity correctly.
The Father God even declared that His Son is God. Heb. 1:8
Jesus declared Himself God. John 10:30
Colossians 2:9 In Him the fulness of Deity
John 1:1 and 1:14 Jesus is God
John 14:8-9 Jesus is God
John 10:30 Jesus is God
Isaiah 9:6, 43:10-11 44:6

John 17:5 Christ had no beginning
I Tim 6:14 sovereignty of Christ
even the demons recognize him as God Mark 1:24

many, many other verses confirm Jesus is God.
He even declared, "Unless you believe I am He, you will die in your sins."
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It's my belief the JWs are a zionist invention

along with all the other crackpot minorities


Some years ago, we owned acreage in a rural area

Down the hill were two houses, also on acreage, occupied by two Jehovah Witness families

They were nuts. Nuts


They individually pestered their neighbours to take their side against their Jehovah Witness neighbour

They both built fences to separate themselves from each other

you can imagine the length of those fences

So the neighbourhood was entertained by these two JW jackass families, each of which built a tall fence

Resulted in two very expensive fences just inches apart

Then it got worse. Jehovah Witness Neighbour One went around the neighbourhood whining that Jehovah Witness Neighbour Two had 'killed all his chickens'

Neighbour Two retaliated with similarly ridiculous whines


Then they took it to their church. Both wanted the other 'On wood'. It was explained to the neighbourhood that 'bad' JWs had to kneel 'on wood'. Duh

Our dog was missing. We put posters around and advertised a reward

Jehovah Witness Neighbour One knocked on our door dressed in a pilot's uniform. He warned that 'black magic' covens had kidnapped and sacrificed our dog

Except he wasn't a pilot

and our dog found his way home on his own


We were glad to leave that neighbourhood and the JWs far behind. Nuts. Nuts. Nuts

I wouldn't trust them to tell the correct time
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Here is their official website

[link to www.jw.org]
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Here is their official website

[link to www.jw.org]
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It's my belief the JWs are a zionist invention

along with all the other crackpot minorities


Some years ago, we owned acreage in a rural area

Down the hill were two houses, also on acreage, occupied by two Jehovah Witness families

They were nuts. Nuts


They individually pestered their neighbours to take their side against their Jehovah Witness neighbour

They both built fences to separate themselves from each other

you can imagine the length of those fences

So the neighbourhood was entertained by these two JW jackass families, each of which built a tall fence

Resulted in two very expensive fences just inches apart

Then it got worse. Jehovah Witness Neighbour One went around the neighbourhood whining that Jehovah Witness Neighbour Two had 'killed all his chickens'

Neighbour Two retaliated with similarly ridiculous whines


Then they took it to their church. Both wanted the other 'On wood'. It was explained to the neighbourhood that 'bad' JWs had to kneel 'on wood'. Duh

Our dog was missing. We put posters around and advertised a reward

Jehovah Witness Neighbour One knocked on our door dressed in a pilot's uniform. He warned that 'black magic' covens had kidnapped and sacrificed our dog

Except he wasn't a pilot

and our dog found his way home on his own


We were glad to leave that neighbourhood and the JWs far behind. Nuts. Nuts. Nuts

I wouldn't trust them to tell the correct time
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37221599


So just because you had a bad example of JW's you are going to paint them all bad? That is nuts.:0) Really, you are always going to find some crazy people in every group. But the majority I have met have been pretty balanced. And they have the truth of the Bible.
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Can anyone thoroughly explain to me why JW's do not believe in the doctrine of the holy trinity? Or have the belief that Jesus is God and connected to the father? It has to be a reason for this.

I figure if they consider themselves Christians, then it would only be right to believe that Jesus is God correct?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19776517


because its not true. What you believe is totally FALSE. The holy trinity are personalized space forces that run the creation, as one group. It is not Daddy God, Jesus the only son of Daddy god, and that strange holy spirit thing you believe. I am sorry but the 2nd Person Trinity is a spirtual forces that pulls you ever higher spiritually. It is not Jesus
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read John 1
and get back to us.
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It's my belief the JWs are a zionist invention

along with all the other crackpot minorities


Some years ago, we owned acreage in a rural area

Down the hill were two houses, also on acreage, occupied by two Jehovah Witness families

They were nuts. Nuts


They individually pestered their neighbours to take their side against their Jehovah Witness neighbour

They both built fences to separate themselves from each other

you can imagine the length of those fences

So the neighbourhood was entertained by these two JW jackass families, each of which built a tall fence

Resulted in two very expensive fences just inches apart

Then it got worse. Jehovah Witness Neighbour One went around the neighbourhood whining that Jehovah Witness Neighbour Two had 'killed all his chickens'

Neighbour Two retaliated with similarly ridiculous whines


Then they took it to their church. Both wanted the other 'On wood'. It was explained to the neighbourhood that 'bad' JWs had to kneel 'on wood'. Duh

Our dog was missing. We put posters around and advertised a reward

Jehovah Witness Neighbour One knocked on our door dressed in a pilot's uniform. He warned that 'black magic' covens had kidnapped and sacrificed our dog

Except he wasn't a pilot

and our dog found his way home on his own


We were glad to leave that neighbourhood and the JWs far behind. Nuts. Nuts. Nuts

I wouldn't trust them to tell the correct time
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37221599


Though I'm certainly NOT practicing I WAS raised as a JW & I can so, with no uncertainty, that what you wrote bares no, ZERO, resemblance to what I was immersed(brainwashed) in for 13 years of my life. "on wood"? Got wood over your neighbors daughter maybe? LOL What a fucking tool. Yeah, some of them are fucking nuts, nuttier than a squirrel's turd, but so's your little story. I can't fucking believe I'm going to do this but here goes. Why the hell would Jesus, while being baptized by John, throw his voice to come down from the sky, drop a dove & talk about himself in the third person? He said something like, 'This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.'. So, by the logic shown in this thread & by the OP, not only does "God" have a split personality, he also talks to himself, about himself. Pfffftttt. Come on now. You people can't really be this fucking nuts.
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It's my belief the JWs are a zionist invention

along with all the other crackpot minorities


Some years ago, we owned acreage in a rural area

Down the hill were two houses, also on acreage, occupied by two Jehovah Witness families

They were nuts. Nuts


They individually pestered their neighbours to take their side against their Jehovah Witness neighbour

They both built fences to separate themselves from each other

you can imagine the length of those fences

So the neighbourhood was entertained by these two JW jackass families, each of which built a tall fence

Resulted in two very expensive fences just inches apart

Then it got worse. Jehovah Witness Neighbour One went around the neighbourhood whining that Jehovah Witness Neighbour Two had 'killed all his chickens'

Neighbour Two retaliated with similarly ridiculous whines


Then they took it to their church. Both wanted the other 'On wood'. It was explained to the neighbourhood that 'bad' JWs had to kneel 'on wood'. Duh

Our dog was missing. We put posters around and advertised a reward

Jehovah Witness Neighbour One knocked on our door dressed in a pilot's uniform. He warned that 'black magic' covens had kidnapped and sacrificed our dog

Except he wasn't a pilot

and our dog found his way home on his own


We were glad to leave that neighbourhood and the JWs far behind. Nuts. Nuts. Nuts

I wouldn't trust them to tell the correct time
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37221599


So just because you had a bad example of JW's you are going to paint them all bad? That is nuts.:0) Really, you are always going to find some crazy people in every group. But the majority I have met have been pretty balanced. And they have the truth of the Bible.
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YES THEY HAVE THE BIBLE
and NO THEY DO NOT HAVE THE TRUTH from THEIR BIBLE.

simply take their bIble and open it to John 1....in the beginning....
they refuse to recognize the Divinity of Christ
and for all the rest-
read John 6 through and NOTE WELL CHRIST WAS NOT GIVING OUT A PARABLE LESSON.
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Can anyone thoroughly explain to me why JW's do not believe in the doctrine of the holy trinity? Or have the belief that Jesus is God and connected to the father? It has to be a reason for this.

I figure if they consider themselves Christians, then it would only be right to believe that Jesus is God correct?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19776517


Not only JW, anyone with a brain who has read the bible can easily see that the trinity is total and utter bullshit, pagan rituals adapted by the catholic church to appease those pagans.
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It's my belief the JWs are a zionist invention

along with all the other crackpot minorities


Some years ago, we owned acreage in a rural area

Down the hill were two houses, also on acreage, occupied by two Jehovah Witness families

They were nuts. Nuts


They individually pestered their neighbours to take their side against their Jehovah Witness neighbour

They both built fences to separate themselves from each other

you can imagine the length of those fences

So the neighbourhood was entertained by these two JW jackass families, each of which built a tall fence

Resulted in two very expensive fences just inches apart

Then it got worse. Jehovah Witness Neighbour One went around the neighbourhood whining that Jehovah Witness Neighbour Two had 'killed all his chickens'

Neighbour Two retaliated with similarly ridiculous whines


Then they took it to their church. Both wanted the other 'On wood'. It was explained to the neighbourhood that 'bad' JWs had to kneel 'on wood'. Duh

Our dog was missing. We put posters around and advertised a reward

Jehovah Witness Neighbour One knocked on our door dressed in a pilot's uniform. He warned that 'black magic' covens had kidnapped and sacrificed our dog

Except he wasn't a pilot

and our dog found his way home on his own


We were glad to leave that neighbourhood and the JWs far behind. Nuts. Nuts. Nuts

I wouldn't trust them to tell the correct time
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37221599


I know a couple Southern Baptist families that are like that....there are crazy Atheists, Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Protestants, Buddhists...need I continue?

I would bet that if they were disfelloweshipped, (shunned) by the JW's because of these shenanigans, you would be the first to say how unfair JW's are for disfellowshipping, right?

The JW's I have had for neighbors have been the best neighbors a person could ask for.
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It's my belief the JWs are a zionist invention

along with all the other crackpot minorities


Some years ago, we owned acreage in a rural area

Down the hill were two houses, also on acreage, occupied by two Jehovah Witness families

They were nuts. Nuts


They individually pestered their neighbours to take their side against their Jehovah Witness neighbour

They both built fences to separate themselves from each other

you can imagine the length of those fences

So the neighbourhood was entertained by these two JW jackass families, each of which built a tall fence

Resulted in two very expensive fences just inches apart

Then it got worse. Jehovah Witness Neighbour One went around the neighbourhood whining that Jehovah Witness Neighbour Two had 'killed all his chickens'

Neighbour Two retaliated with similarly ridiculous whines


Then they took it to their church. Both wanted the other 'On wood'. It was explained to the neighbourhood that 'bad' JWs had to kneel 'on wood'. Duh

Our dog was missing. We put posters around and advertised a reward

Jehovah Witness Neighbour One knocked on our door dressed in a pilot's uniform. He warned that 'black magic' covens had kidnapped and sacrificed our dog

Except he wasn't a pilot

and our dog found his way home on his own


We were glad to leave that neighbourhood and the JWs far behind. Nuts. Nuts. Nuts

I wouldn't trust them to tell the correct time
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37221599


Though I'm certainly NOT practicing I WAS raised as a JW & I can so, with no uncertainty, that what you wrote bares no, ZERO, resemblance to what I was immersed(brainwashed) in for 13 years of my life. "on wood"? Got wood over your neighbors daughter maybe? LOL What a fucking tool. Yeah, some of them are fucking nuts, nuttier than a squirrel's turd, but so's your little story. I can't fucking believe I'm going to do this but here goes. Why the hell would Jesus, while being baptized by John, throw his voice to come down from the sky, drop a dove & talk about himself in the third person? He said something like, 'This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.'. So, by the logic shown in this thread & by the OP, not only does "God" have a split personality, he also talks to himself, about himself. Pfffftttt. Come on now. You people can't really be this fucking nuts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2782120

Why don't you tear that ONE page out of your bible, since you obviously have never read the entire book of John. Otherwise you would see is nothing else to support the belief in the pagan belief of a Triune God. The Trinity is such a stupid belief.
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Great info here, by a non-JW with references on the research

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[link to www.heraldmag.org]


The Origin of the Trinity: From Paganism to Constantine
by Cher-El L. Hagensick

The Rabbi ‘s deep voice echoes through the dusk, ‘Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God is one Lord’.{# De 6:4} What a far cry that is from Judaism’s offspring, Christianity, and its belief in the Trinity. While the majority of the Christian world considers the concept of the Trinity vital to Christianity, many historians and Bible scholars agree that the Trinity of Christianity owes more to Greek philosophy and pagan polytheism than to the monotheism of the Jew and the Jewish Jesus.

The search for the origins of the Trinity begins with the earliest writings of man. Records of early Mesopotamian and Mediterranean civilizations show polytheistic religions, though many scholars assert that earliest man believed in one god. The 19th century scholar and Protestant minister, Alexander Hislop, devotes several chapters of his book The Two Babylons to showing how this original belief in one god was replaced by the triads of paganism which were eventually absorbed into Catholic Church dogmas. A more recent Egyptologist, Erick Hornung, refutes the original monotheism of Egypt: ‘[Monotheism is] a phenomenon restricted to the wisdom texts,’ which were written between 2600 and 2530 BC (50-51); but there is no question that ancient man believed in ‘one infinite and Almighty Creator, supreme over all’ (Hislop 14); and in a multitude of gods at a later point. Nor is there any doubt that the most common grouping of gods was a triad.1

Most of ancient theology is lost under the sands of time. However, archaeological expeditions in ancient Mesopotamia have uncovered the fascinating culture of the Sumerians, which flourished over 4,000 years ago. Though Sumeria was overthrown first by Assyria, and then by Babylon, its gods lived on in the cultures of those who conquered. The historian S. H. Hooke tells in detail of the ancient Sumerian trinity: Anu was the primary god of heaven, the ‘Father’, and the ‘King of the Gods’; Enlil, the ‘wind-god’ was the god of the earth, and a creator god; and Enki was the god of waters and the ‘lord of wisdom’ (15-18). The historian, H. W. F. Saggs, explains that the Babylonian triad consisted of ‘three gods of roughly equal rank... whose inter-relationship is of the essence of their natures’ (316).

Is this positive proof that the Christian Trinity descended from the ancient Sumerian, Assyrian, and Babylonian triads? No. However, Hislop furthers the comparison, ‘In the unity of that one, Only God of the Babylonians there were three persons, and to symbolize [sic] that doctrine of the Trinity, they employed... the equilateral triangle, just as it is well known the Romish Church does at this day’ (16).

Egypt’s history is similar to Sumeria’s in antiquity. In his Egyptian Myths, George Hart, lecturer for the British Museum and professor of ancient Egyptian heiroglyphics at the University of London, shows how Egypt also believed in a ‘transcendental, above creation, and preexisting’ one, the god Amun. Amun was really three gods in one. Re was his face, Ptah his body, and Amun his hidden identity (24). The well-known historian Will Durant concurs that Ra, Amon, and Ptah were ‘combined as three embodiments or aspects of one supreme and triune deity’ (Oriental Heritage 201). Additionally, a hymn to Amun written in the 14th century BC defines the Egyptian trinity: ‘All Gods are three: Amun, Re, Ptah; they have no equal. His name is hidden as Amun, he is Re... before [men], and his body is Ptah’ (Hornung 219).

Is this positive proof that the Christian Trinity descended from the ancient Egyptian triads? No. However, Durant submits that ‘from Egypt came the ideas of a divine trinity...’ (Caesar 595). Dr. Gordon Laing, retired Dean of the Humanities Department at the University of Chicago, agrees that ‘the worship of the Egyptian triad Isis, Serapis, and the child Horus’ probably accustomed the early church theologians to the idea of a triune God, and was influential ‘in the formulation of the doctrine of the Trinity as set forth in the Nicaean and Athanasian creeds’ (128-129).

These were not the only trinities early Christians were exposed to. The historical lecturer, Jesse Benedict Carter, tells us of the Etruscans. As they slowly passed from Babylon through Greece and went on to Rome (16-19), they brought with them their trinity of Tinia, Uni, and Menerva. This trinity was a ‘new idea to the Romans,’ and yet it became so ‘typical of Rome’ that it quickly spread throughout Italy (26). Even the names of the Roman trinity: Jupiter, Juno, and Minerva, reflect the ancestry. That Christianity was not ashamed to borrow from pagan culture is amply shown by Durant: ‘Christianity did not destroy paganism; it adopted it’ (Caesar 595).

Is this positive proof that the Christian Trinity descended from the Etruscan and Roman triads? No. However, Laing convincingly devotes his entire book Survivals of the Roman Gods to the comparison of Roman paganism and the Roman Catholic Church. Dr. Jaroslav Pelikan, a Catholic scholar and professor at Yale, confirms the Church’s respect for pagan ideas when he states that the Apologists and other early church fathers used and cited the [pagan] Roman Sibylline Oracles so much that they were called ‘Sibyllists’ by the 2nd century critic, Celsus. There was even a medieval hymn, ‘Dies irae,’ which foretold the ‘coming of the day of wrath’ based on the ‘dual authority of ‘David and the Sibyl”(Emergence 64-65). The attitude of the Church toward paganism is best summed up in Pope Gregory the Great’s words to a missionary: ‘You must not interfere with any traditional belief or religious observance that can be harmonized with Christianity’ (qtd. in Laing 130).

In contrast, Judaism is strongly monotheistic with no hint of a trinity. The Hebrew Bible (the Old Testament) is filled with scriptures such as ‘before Me there was no God formed, Neither shall any be after Me’ (#Isa 43:10 qtd. in Isaiah), and ‘there is no other God...I am the Lord and there is none else’ (#Isa 45:14,18 qtd. in Isaiah). A Jewish commentary affirms that ‘[no] other gods exist, for to declare this would be blasphemous...’ (Chumash 458). Even though ‘Word,’ ‘Spirit,’ ‘Presence,’ and ‘Wisdom’ are used as personifications of God, Biblical scholars agree that the Trinity is neither mentioned nor intended by the authors of the Old Testament (Lonergan 130; Fortman xv; Burns 2).

We can conclude without much difficulty that the concept of the Trinity did not come from Judaism. Nor did Jesus speak of a trinity. The message of Jesus was of the coming kingdom; it was a message of love and forgiveness. As for his relationship with the Father, Jesus said, ‘... I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me’,{# Joh 5:30} and in another place ‘my doctrine is not mine, but His that sent me’;{# Joh 7:16} and his words ‘my Father is greater than I’ {#Joh 14:28} leave no doubt as to their relationship.
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It's my belief the JWs are a zionist invention

along with all the other crackpot minorities


Some years ago, we owned acreage in a rural area

Down the hill were two houses, also on acreage, occupied by two Jehovah Witness families

They were nuts. Nuts


They individually pestered their neighbours to take their side against their Jehovah Witness neighbour

They both built fences to separate themselves from each other

you can imagine the length of those fences

So the neighbourhood was entertained by these two JW jackass families, each of which built a tall fence

Resulted in two very expensive fences just inches apart

Then it got worse. Jehovah Witness Neighbour One went around the neighbourhood whining that Jehovah Witness Neighbour Two had 'killed all his chickens'

Neighbour Two retaliated with similarly ridiculous whines


Then they took it to their church. Both wanted the other 'On wood'. It was explained to the neighbourhood that 'bad' JWs had to kneel 'on wood'. Duh

Our dog was missing. We put posters around and advertised a reward

Jehovah Witness Neighbour One knocked on our door dressed in a pilot's uniform. He warned that 'black magic' covens had kidnapped and sacrificed our dog

Except he wasn't a pilot

and our dog found his way home on his own


We were glad to leave that neighbourhood and the JWs far behind. Nuts. Nuts. Nuts

I wouldn't trust them to tell the correct time
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37221599


Though I'm certainly NOT practicing I WAS raised as a JW & I can so, with no uncertainty, that what you wrote bares no, ZERO, resemblance to what I was immersed(brainwashed) in for 13 years of my life. "on wood"? Got wood over your neighbors daughter maybe? LOL What a fucking tool. Yeah, some of them are fucking nuts, nuttier than a squirrel's turd, but so's your little story. I can't fucking believe I'm going to do this but here goes. Why the hell would Jesus, while being baptized by John, throw his voice to come down from the sky, drop a dove & talk about himself in the third person? He said something like, 'This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.'. So, by the logic shown in this thread & by the OP, not only does "God" have a split personality, he also talks to himself, about himself. Pfffftttt. Come on now. You people can't really be this fucking nuts.
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Yes, Constantine, while trying to bring peace to the Roman Empire, really screwed up the beliefs of first century Christianity by merging pagan beliefs into it. Thus the trinity false doctrine. And no it doesn't make sense when you really think about it. It is a rare Christian denomination that will speak the truth that it is not a first century teaching but a pagan one. But then the path to life is very narrow and not many are going to be on it unfortunately.
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Can anyone thoroughly explain to me why JW's do not believe in the doctrine of the holy trinity? Or have the belief that Jesus is God and connected to the father? It has to be a reason for this.

I figure if they consider themselves Christians, then it would only be right to believe that Jesus is God correct?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19776517


Not only JW, anyone with a brain who has read the bible can easily see that the trinity is total and utter bullshit, pagan rituals adapted by the catholic church to appease those pagans.
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True, if you are a thinking person you will see that the trinity is false.
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This site shows you how far off JWs are from true Christianity.

[link to 4jehovah.org]

[link to 4jehovah.org]
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This site shows you how far off JWs are from true Christianity.

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[link to 4jehovah.org]
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The one thing that stands out for me is the love they have for their neighbors and their enemies. They do like Jesus says to do and to love and pray for their enemies. They don't go out to murder them in wars like others do who claim to be Christian. Just that one fact shows how close they are to true Christianity. You cannot murder others in war and claim to be Christian.
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The Holy Bible: King James Version. 2000.
Ecclesiastes


A Time for Everything
1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
2 a time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
3 a time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
4 a time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
5 a time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
6 a time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
7 a time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
8 a time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
9 What profit hath he that worketh in that wherein he laboreth?
10 ¶ I have seen the travail, which God hath given to the sons of men to be exercised in it.
11 He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.
12 I know that there is no good in them, but for a man to rejoice, and to do good in his life.
13 And also that every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labor, it is the gift of God.
14 I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.
15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.
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