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Fukushima... Corium quake??? activity right now..... sea temp unbelievable...

 
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Personally I dunno whats to deny. Water temps aside, have those cores been brought under control (the coriumed ones) or are they likely to be before they do some real damage, Estella?
 Quoting: Marxist


Great post, EV.

Could the Corium cause an explosion bigger than any seen by mankind? It could totally destroy eastern Asia, and also western US? Could this be the catalyst to Cayces' future map of the world?

Yeah, I think big. :esplode:
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it's never happened before, so we don't know......
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Exactly, a real China syndrome has never happened before.. No real world data.. We are getting it all now.

The forecast for the corium blast that was prevented at Chernobyl was 3-5 megatons.. This has more cores, and more fuel involved. But I think that the worst that could occur would be an ELE from fission products in the environment, not a super sized supercritical blast.. The super blast would almost be preferred in my book as it would distribute the corium far apart as to not allow for continued melting and reaction and movement.. (But epic pollution) As a large blob it's very dangerous and as said before, we have no data for prediction, just theory.

Weapons in the megaton range use different physics, they are thermonuclear, as in they use a atomic bomb to start a fire to burn a fuel. This is worse, not from blast... But poison of all life on earth. This is slow, silent doom you have all been waiting for.

Start making your own plans to evacuate the northern hemisphere, I'm not kidding folks. And even that will only buy you a little more time.
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So, sea temps slightly elevated. Are you saying the the quake is due to the corium? the epicentres not near where the corium would even be. Please clarify your interpretation of the data so i can either agree with you or call you a fearmongering whore
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CP, you are getting hammered in another thread...

Thread: Fukushima: "Wolf, Wolf, there is a Wolf in Fukushima"!
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Personally I dunno whats to deny. Water temps aside, have those cores been brought under control (the coriumed ones) or are they likely to be before they do some real damage, Estella?
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Pay close attention to the graph at the bottom of the page.
This isn't some extraordinary event that hasn't happened pre-Fuk.
Also look at my source. I would say their information is unbiased as opposed the OP's.

Yes, the cores could do real damage and it's a dangerous situation. Which is why we should be very carefully about crying wolf.


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Personally I dunno whats to deny. Water temps aside, have those cores been brought under control (the coriumed ones) or are they likely to be before they do some real damage, Estella?
 Quoting: Marxist



Pay close attention to the graph at the bottom of the page.
This isn't some extraordinary event that hasn't happened pre-Fuk.
Also look at my source. I would say their information is unbiased as opposed the OP's.

Yes, the cores could do real damage and it's a dangerous situation. Which is why we should be very carefully about crying wolf.


[link to www.surf-forecast.com]
 Quoting: Estella<3


Huh! I really am trying hard to follow your logic. Frankly I can't be bothered whether the water is hot enough to make a cuppa or not.

What I want to know is can these cores be contained in time? Do they even know whats going in in the corium zones? Thats something I have never yet been able to fathom in between the decontaminants and thyroid tests

These are fuckin democracies for fucks sakes. People have a right to know these things or else we might as well have paternal dictatorships and sling the elections.
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Personally I dunno whats to deny. Water temps aside, have those cores been brought under control (the coriumed ones) or are they likely to be before they do some real damage, Estella?
 Quoting: Marxist



Pay close attention to the graph at the bottom of the page.
This isn't some extraordinary event that hasn't happened pre-Fuk.
Also look at my source. I would say their information is unbiased as opposed the OP's.

Yes, the cores could do real damage and it's a dangerous situation. Which is why we should be very carefully about crying wolf.


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 Quoting: Estella<3


my graph is uploading... looks somewhat different to yours... same as the apple i-app that was proven to show neg irraddiation when tested on real material....


you need to join this thread.... Thread: Fukushima: "Wolf, Wolf, there is a Wolf in Fukushima"!
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The containment of Fuk could go 101 different ways.
I can assure you that my self nor anyone on this site has enough factual information to provide that answer for you.



Personally I dunno whats to deny. Water temps aside, have those cores been brought under control (the coriumed ones) or are they likely to be before they do some real damage, Estella?
 Quoting: Marxist



Pay close attention to the graph at the bottom of the page.
This isn't some extraordinary event that hasn't happened pre-Fuk.
Also look at my source. I would say their information is unbiased as opposed the OP's.

Yes, the cores could do real damage and it's a dangerous situation. Which is why we should be very carefully about crying wolf.


[link to www.surf-forecast.com]
 Quoting: Estella<3


Huh! I really am trying hard to follow your logic. Frankly I can't be bothered whether the water is hot enough to make a cuppa or not.

What I want to know is can these cores be contained in time? Do they even know whats going in in the corium zones? Thats something I have never yet been able to fathom in between the decontaminants and thyroid tests

These are fuckin democracies for fucks sakes. People have a right to know these things or else we might as well have paternal dictatorships and sling the elections.
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I really don't understand why the temperatures should be bad?
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citz_rad1

today... bite me....
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Is this land temps?
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I really don't understand why the temperatures should be bad?
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quake of unknown origin is assumed......

dunno till i hear back either

[link to fukushimaemergencywhatcanwedo.blogspot.com.au]

what i do have from a reliable.....

one comment was from geo-survey satelites was how quick the ice was melting in the similar area...

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The containment of Fuk could go 101 different ways.
I can assure you that my self nor anyone on this site has enough factual information to provide that answer for you.



Personally I dunno whats to deny. Water temps aside, have those cores been brought under control (the coriumed ones) or are they likely to be before they do some real damage, Estella?
 Quoting: Marxist



Pay close attention to the graph at the bottom of the page.
This isn't some extraordinary event that hasn't happened pre-Fuk.
Also look at my source. I would say their information is unbiased as opposed the OP's.

Yes, the cores could do real damage and it's a dangerous situation. Which is why we should be very carefully about crying wolf.


[link to www.surf-forecast.com]
 Quoting: Estella<3


Huh! I really am trying hard to follow your logic. Frankly I can't be bothered whether the water is hot enough to make a cuppa or not.

What I want to know is can these cores be contained in time? Do they even know whats going in in the corium zones? Thats something I have never yet been able to fathom in between the decontaminants and thyroid tests

These are fuckin democracies for fucks sakes. People have a right to know these things or else we might as well have paternal dictatorships and sling the elections.
 Quoting: Marxist

 Quoting: Estella<3


So 2 years later, these red hot blobs (3 apparently) which have the capacity to erode all the way down to an obstruction such as water or a lava layer with serious risk, are basically unmonitored and its not being discussed. And you don't see anything wrong in that picture but reckon discussion, even perhaps hasty discussion, is inadvisable. Well, yeah, what can I say.
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The red hot blobs are monitored 24/7 even via live streaming web cam for the public.

[link to www.tepco.co.jp]

I can't imagine what more can be done to inform the public.


The containment of Fuk could go 101 different ways.
I can assure you that my self nor anyone on this site has enough factual information to provide that answer for you.



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Pay close attention to the graph at the bottom of the page.
This isn't some extraordinary event that hasn't happened pre-Fuk.
Also look at my source. I would say their information is unbiased as opposed the OP's.

Yes, the cores could do real damage and it's a dangerous situation. Which is why we should be very carefully about crying wolf.


[link to www.surf-forecast.com]
 Quoting: Estella<3


Huh! I really am trying hard to follow your logic. Frankly I can't be bothered whether the water is hot enough to make a cuppa or not.

What I want to know is can these cores be contained in time? Do they even know whats going in in the corium zones? Thats something I have never yet been able to fathom in between the decontaminants and thyroid tests

These are fuckin democracies for fucks sakes. People have a right to know these things or else we might as well have paternal dictatorships and sling the elections.
 Quoting: Marxist

 Quoting: Estella<3


So 2 years later, these red hot blobs (3 apparently) which have the capacity to erode all the way down to an obstruction such as water or a lava layer with serious risk, are basically unmonitored and its not being discussed. And you don't see anything wrong in that picture but reckon discussion, even perhaps hasty discussion, is inadvisable. Well, yeah, what can I say.
 Quoting: Marxist
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I really don't understand why the temperatures should be bad?
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If the melted reactor core (corium) has burned it's way to the groundwater and is pumping superheated steam into an aquifer, or other channel under the ground, the possibilities are endless.

1) what we know fore sure, epic biosphere pollution

2) radioactive geysers popping up in strange places

3) criticality events (explosions)

4) contact with hydrocarbons in the strata (epic explosions)

5) spreading of heat and radioactivity to far away places via hydrological channels

6) core contact with magma

Pick one friend.. Who knows?

The fact that the heat or quake is not directly under the plant means nothing if the mass has reached the water table or voids underground. The beast could pop up god knows where.
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When the corium hits water, BA-BA-BOOM!

Because, water cools the corium, which brings the atoms closer, allowing more fission events to take place. Putting the mass into hotter fission.

Which releases more heat from the steam, which cools the corium more.

The rising steam will pull more water in from the ground.


If the corium blob ever hit a large mass of water, EVERYONE will know about it. Because there will be a massive steam explosion.

An explosion that would shoot radioactive steam and nuclear byproducts HIGH into the atmosphere. Which is a REAl danger for spreading globally.

In other words, that corium blob will be out of Japan soon and into the global jet streams.
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I really don't understand why the temperatures should be bad?
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If the melted reactor core (corium) has burned it's way to the groundwater and is pumping superheated steam into an aquifer, or other channel under the ground, the possibilities are endless.

1) what we know fore sure, epic biosphere pollution

2) radioactive geysers popping up in strange places

3) criticality events (explosions)

4) contact with hydrocarbons in the strata (epic explosions)

5) spreading of heat and radioactivity to far away places via hydrological channels

6) core contact with magma

Pick one friend.. Who knows?

The fact that the heat or quake is not directly under the plant means nothing if the mass has reached the water table or voids underground. The beast could pop up god knows where.
 Quoting: EscapeVelocity


sigh* finally*.......
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I really don't understand why the temperatures should be bad?
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If the melted reactor core (corium) has burned it's way to the groundwater and is pumping superheated steam into an aquifer, or other channel under the ground, the possibilities are endless.

1) what we know fore sure, epic biosphere pollution

2) radioactive geysers popping up in strange places

3) criticality events (explosions)

4) contact with hydrocarbons in the strata (epic explosions)

5) spreading of heat and radioactivity to far away places via hydrological channels

6) core contact with magma

Pick one friend.. Who knows?

The fact that the heat or quake is not directly under the plant means nothing if the mass has reached the water table or voids underground. The beast could pop up god knows where.
 Quoting: EscapeVelocity


The majority of Earths material is Uranium once you get deep enough. A fraction of which could be fissile.
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and what can be done to stop this?



When the corium hits water, BA-BA-BOOM!

Because, water cools the corium, which brings the atoms closer, allowing more fission events to take place. Putting the mass into hotter fission.

Which releases more heat from the steam, which cools the corium more.

The rising steam will pull more water in from the ground.


If the corium blob ever hit a large mass of water, EVERYONE will know about it. Because there will be a massive steam explosion.

An explosion that would shoot radioactive steam and nuclear byproducts HIGH into the atmosphere. Which is a REAl danger for spreading globally.

In other words, that corium blob will be out of Japan soon and into the global jet streams.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--
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The red hot blobs are monitored 24/7 even via live streaming web cam for the public.

[link to www.tepco.co.jp]

I can't imagine what more can be done to inform the public.


The containment of Fuk could go 101 different ways.
I can assure you that my self nor anyone on this site has enough factual information to provide that answer for you.



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Huh! I really am trying hard to follow your logic. Frankly I can't be bothered whether the water is hot enough to make a cuppa or not.

What I want to know is can these cores be contained in time? Do they even know whats going in in the corium zones? Thats something I have never yet been able to fathom in between the decontaminants and thyroid tests

These are fuckin democracies for fucks sakes. People have a right to know these things or else we might as well have paternal dictatorships and sling the elections.
 Quoting: Marxist

 Quoting: Estella<3


So 2 years later, these red hot blobs (3 apparently) which have the capacity to erode all the way down to an obstruction such as water or a lava layer with serious risk, are basically unmonitored and its not being discussed. And you don't see anything wrong in that picture but reckon discussion, even perhaps hasty discussion, is inadvisable. Well, yeah, what can I say.
 Quoting: Marxist

 Quoting: Estella<3


All I saw were cranes. So you are telling me that they can see the blobs, do reasonable guestimates as to how many inches they have bored, etc, etc. If so why dont ya say so. If the blobs haven't penetrated far into the ground beneath them it follows that they are nowhere near the water table and CP is wrong. Is that what you're saying?
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I really don't understand why the temperatures should be bad?
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If the melted reactor core (corium) has burned it's way to the groundwater and is pumping superheated steam into an aquifer, or other channel under the ground, the possibilities are endless.

1) what we know fore sure, epic biosphere pollution

2) radioactive geysers popping up in strange places

3) criticality events (explosions)

4) contact with hydrocarbons in the strata (epic explosions)

5) spreading of heat and radioactivity to far away places via hydrological channels

6) core contact with magma

Pick one friend.. Who knows?

The fact that the heat or quake is not directly under the plant means nothing if the mass has reached the water table or voids underground. The beast could pop up god knows where.
 Quoting: EscapeVelocity


The majority of Earths material is Uranium once you get deep enough. A fraction of which could be fissile.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


that's why they picked it out, messed with it, and now went a step further and created MOX.... and now it's who knows where... observance and observation is the key to this... silent ignorance is not the answer.....
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It is impossible to have even corium quakes without seeing steam explosions... Do you know that the plants are close to the sea (yes what smart people)? do you know that if the corium dig so deep it would soon meet the water?
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what shocked me last month is they did two things
1. admitted to ground water cooling and;
2. ejecting it into the ocean....
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and what can be done to stop this?



When the corium hits water, BA-BA-BOOM!

Because, water cools the corium, which brings the atoms closer, allowing more fission events to take place. Putting the mass into hotter fission.

Which releases more heat from the steam, which cools the corium more.

The rising steam will pull more water in from the ground.


If the corium blob ever hit a large mass of water, EVERYONE will know about it. Because there will be a massive steam explosion.

An explosion that would shoot radioactive steam and nuclear byproducts HIGH into the atmosphere. Which is a REAl danger for spreading globally.

In other words, that corium blob will be out of Japan soon and into the global jet streams.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--

 Quoting: Estella<3


- According to public modern science, nothing.

- According to the Soviets, sacrifice thousands of lives to dump lead on top of the corium.

- According to Tesla, shield it from primary rays.

- According to the Red neck, nuke the fucker and burn up the coriums fuel.
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What is a "Corium quake"?
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been what they have shrugged at since it happened...

basically they don't know....

it surmises that when the mix of everything from the reactors suddenly hits the water that it will react in unknown ways.. this is only what they are surmising at the moment given the current information....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Thanks. It would be very cool if thatmapyou show of the water temps could be clicked to show a larger version if you have it. That's really interesting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32041464


This is zoom-able and from the data collection point;

[link to weather.unisys.com]
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I really don't understand why the temperatures should be bad?
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If the melted reactor core (corium) has burned it's way to the groundwater and is pumping superheated steam into an aquifer, or other channel under the ground, the possibilities are endless.

1) what we know fore sure, epic biosphere pollution

2) radioactive geysers popping up in strange places

3) criticality events (explosions)

4) contact with hydrocarbons in the strata (epic explosions)

5) spreading of heat and radioactivity to far away places via hydrological channels

6) core contact with magma

Pick one friend.. Who knows?

The fact that the heat or quake is not directly under the plant means nothing if the mass has reached the water table or voids underground. The beast could pop up god knows where.
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The majority of Earths material is Uranium once you get deep enough. A fraction of which could be fissile.
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Oh yeah, that too..

A lot of folks don't know that there have been natural reactors which vent steam from decay heat, the deeper you go, the more dense the stuff is.

Also add mechanical displacement from steam filling voids.

The point that has been stated often is that nobody knows what is next. I'm sorry but I don't believe one scrap of information from Tepco, even telemetry and video can and will be falsified by those save-asses.

We can only hope that if there is a China syndrome in progress that the sand acts much like the bio shield sand pack of Chernobyl and contains the mass somewhat. Then we can start looking for the giant Chernobylite geode under Japan.
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Re: Fukushima... Corium quake??? activity right now..... sea temp unbelievable...
It is impossible to have even corium quakes without seeing steam explosions... Do you know that the plants are close to the sea (yes what smart people)? do you know that if the corium dig so deep it would soon meet the water?
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That´s why the russians undermined the whole Chernobyl reactor and filled the giant cavity with concrete with integrated cooling.

Because if the molten core would have hit groundwater (they had no (!) water cooling at site but chilled with lead thrown on top of the core) there would be a giant explosion spreading the corium and making vast parts of asia and europe uninhabitable.

They had luck as the so called "bio-shield" shielding the reactor broke and the tons of sand inside the shield poured into the core and diluted it and the chain reaction going on. That is why the cellar of Chernobyl contains a huge blob of glass.

The japanese are not so lucky as their reactor has no sand-bio-shield in place.
So there "could be" a huge blob containing reactor fuel with minor pollution from molten reactor parts slowly eating trough the ground towards the ground/sea water below the plant.

And the only thing they can do is pump water on top of it to cool it.

Nice.

There are 2 outcomes.

As long as they can keep the core(s) covered with water nothing much will happen.

Or there could be a nice huge boom followed by a tower of steam raining down on japan and the pacific containing core particles.

Which would make nuclear fallout from bombs (short lived isotopes !) look like a nice, warm summer rain.
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Re: Fukushima... Corium quake??? activity right now..... sea temp unbelievable...
what shocked me last month is they did two things
1. admitted to ground water cooling and;
2. ejecting it into the ocean....
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I FN knew they were doing that the whole time. The reactors blow up,destroy the cooling mechanisms and they acted like they just had to re-tighten a few nuts and add water.

They can't fix this,ever. They will just dump water on it and drain it into the ocean.
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Re: Fukushima... Corium quake??? activity right now..... sea temp unbelievable...
I used to work as a tax barrister and if theres one thing I have learnt, its get to the story quick. I am still none the wiser as to just where those blobs are in relation to the ground water. I looked at the cams and all I saw were cranes.

Perhap someone could chip in at some stage and explain whether they have seen said blobs and what depth they are at. I'll favourite this thread and check from time to time.

As it is there is bugger all on google.
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Re: Fukushima... Corium quake??? activity right now..... sea temp unbelievable...
Sorry to disappoint but no actual red hot blobs have been spotted.



The red hot blobs are monitored 24/7 even via live streaming web cam for the public.

[link to www.tepco.co.jp]

I can't imagine what more can be done to inform the public.


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I can assure you that my self nor anyone on this site has enough factual information to provide that answer for you.



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So 2 years later, these red hot blobs (3 apparently) which have the capacity to erode all the way down to an obstruction such as water or a lava layer with serious risk, are basically unmonitored and its not being discussed. And you don't see anything wrong in that picture but reckon discussion, even perhaps hasty discussion, is inadvisable. Well, yeah, what can I say.
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All I saw were cranes. So you are telling me that they can see the blobs, do reasonable guestimates as to how many inches they have bored, etc, etc. If so why dont ya say so. If the blobs haven't penetrated far into the ground beneath them it follows that they are nowhere near the water table and CP is wrong. Is that what you're saying?
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