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having a problem with the colours on the temp scale, -2.5 is the same colour on the temp scale as 9.5 so how can you tell which its meant to be?
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anyone gonna explain this ^^ to me
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having a problem with the colours on the temp scale, -2.5 is the same colour on the temp scale as 9.5 so how can you tell which its meant to be?
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anyone gonna explain this ^^ to me
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nice question.. it is a negative on what we would assume is 'normal', therefore, what you seem to equate is not a normal anomally.. it is the difference between what it should be...

repost: what you see are 'hot waters", and the deep seas examplifies that, with the recent ground action is the reaon i follow the story....

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You can't put out a nuclear blob with water. The water will make it hotter, more radioactive and spend it's fuel faster.

Also creates neutron bursts, adding large amounts of water.

Lead absorbed the free neutrons reducing further fission events.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


did you see the neutron blasts over the last two years?..... wow.......
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Some, intense I know that. Do you know the exact mechanism behind the cause of the neutron blasts?
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having a problem with the colours on the temp scale, -2.5 is the same colour on the temp scale as 9.5 so how can you tell which its meant to be?
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anyone gonna explain this ^^ to me
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nice question.. it is a negative on what we would assume is 'normal', therefore, what you seem to equate is not a normal anomally.. it is the difference between what it should be...

repost: what you see are 'hot waters", and the deep seas examplifies that, with the recent ground action is the reaon i follow the story....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


thank you
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It's simple. Years of pouring radioactive water in the ocean. Radioactive particles accumulete making it more dangerous and hotter when they stack up.

And i'm not even talking about the nuclear powerplant itself or the waste dumps.

Shit is bad. And this is our endgame.
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There is no mistaking the catastrophic dangers present here. On top of all that we have discussed, it should be noted that another quake in the same area, combined with a likely tsunami, would more than 'seal the deal' on this disaster.

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You can't put out a nuclear blob with water. The water will make it hotter, more radioactive and spend it's fuel faster.

Also creates neutron bursts, adding large amounts of water.

Lead absorbed the free neutrons reducing further fission events.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


did you see the neutron blasts over the last two years?..... wow.......
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Some, intense I know that. Do you know the exact mechanism behind the cause of the neutron blasts?
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


neutron blasts, are after a criticality of uninsured, or encapsulated nuclear activity....

over the years, we have assumed, that the pipping, control systems, of a self propergating material was 'under control'.......
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Gundersen: Death toll from Fukushima disaster to be 1,000 times IAEA estimate

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"When there’s no liquid inside the containment, there’s no capture of the cesium. So whatever cesium was inside that containment was leaking out of the containment. […] Well that changes the game dramatically. Instead of 1% of the cesium, it’s likely that 20 or 30% of the cesium were released," Gundersen explained.
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Gundersen: Death toll from Fukushima disaster to be 1,000 times IAEA estimate

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"When there’s no liquid inside the containment, there’s no capture of the cesium. So whatever cesium was inside that containment was leaking out of the containment. […] Well that changes the game dramatically. Instead of 1% of the cesium, it’s likely that 20 or 30% of the cesium were released," Gundersen explained.
 Quoting: Patient.Zer0


bingo...... 2+ years.. peapole are
a: getting sick or;
b: getting the idea of the seriousness....
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I'm not sick yet
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Air temps at the Fukushima are 39 F right now. So that should not be conributing to this rapid spike in ocean temps.
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Air temps at the Fukushima are 39 F right now. So that should not be conributing to this rapid spike in ocean temps.
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that's the point............
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It has been very worm in Tokyo over last few months.Sakura bloomed very early!
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It has been very worm in Tokyo over last few months.Sakura bloomed very early!
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ueah saw that.. is that good or bad in your speculation?
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It has been very worm in Tokyo over last few months.Sakura bloomed very early!
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ueah saw that.. is that good or bad in your speculation?
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is it heatting from the bottom up?Any drilling done to see how hot is down there?
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It has been very worm in Tokyo over last few months.Sakura bloomed very early!
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ueah saw that.. is that good or bad in your speculation?
 Quoting: Citizenperth


is it heatting from the bottom up?Any drilling done to see how hot is down there?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25393243


they cannot get near it.. mr robots fail.....

the deal is dire......
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You can't put out a nuclear blob with water. The water will make it hotter, more radioactive and spend it's fuel faster.

Also creates neutron bursts, adding large amounts of water.

Lead absorbed the free neutrons reducing further fission events.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


But the fire brigade at Chernobyl did exactly that, so much so that the pool underneath had to be swam into by divers and it took a week to drain it all out. You know the story I can see from your posts. Also Akimov and Lelechenko also spent hours (literally melting their flesh off) pumping water into the then non existent core, still no major steam explosion.

Agreed it had no chance of putting it out and made thing much worse but unless there is a large contact of fuel with a large body of water, suddenly, it is possible that we would not see the catastrophic steam explosion that is usually forecast with a melt down. If this occurs deep underground and contact timeframe is slow enough, it may just boil and build up steam pressure that pushes out in all directions, finding the path of least resistance. Also the earth can act as in insulator not allowing the mass to exchange heat and increasing the sink rate.

The problem stems from the fact that there is no prior real world data for any of our conjecture.. Anything is possible IMO
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Hey Perth!

Good thread bro.

Fukishima is a tumor. If its not dealt with, it will kill us all.
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Here's a larger image:

[link to www.weather.unisys.com]

Yup, definitely from today.....
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Didn't see the red and yellow near Fukushima on other link . That looks real bad , if that pink area is warmer too , then doom is on .
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Can anyone find that map, but from like 2009?
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Google just went there.



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Hey Perth!

Good thread bro.

Fukishima is a tumor. If its not dealt with, it will kill us all.
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from my data, to late my late might friend........ welcome up ;)
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Hey Perth!

Good thread bro.

Fukishima is a tumor. If its not dealt with, it will kill us all.
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


from my data, to late my late might friend........ welcome up ;)
 Quoting: Citizenperth


you the dark one, and me as pope, we need to sit and talk..............
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I'm not sick yet
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If you are not eating the Hiroshima diet, Please google it and start!!!!
IT CAN AND WILL SAVE YOU FROM A HORRIBLE DEATH
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yawn, conspiracy nuts bore me now.
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I'm not sick yet
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If you are not eating the Hiroshima diet, Please google it and start!!!!
IT CAN AND WILL SAVE YOU FROM A HORRIBLE DEATH
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from another thread.. listen to this man... good advice...
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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The red hot blobs are monitored 24/7 even via live streaming web cam for the public.

[link to www.tepco.co.jp]

I can't imagine what more can be done to inform the public.


The containment of Fuk could go 101 different ways.
I can assure you that my self nor anyone on this site has enough factual information to provide that answer for you.



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Huh! I really am trying hard to follow your logic. Frankly I can't be bothered whether the water is hot enough to make a cuppa or not.

What I want to know is can these cores be contained in time? Do they even know whats going in in the corium zones? Thats something I have never yet been able to fathom in between the decontaminants and thyroid tests

These are fuckin democracies for fucks sakes. People have a right to know these things or else we might as well have paternal dictatorships and sling the elections.
 Quoting: Marxist

 Quoting: Estella<3


So 2 years later, these red hot blobs (3 apparently) which have the capacity to erode all the way down to an obstruction such as water or a lava layer with serious risk, are basically unmonitored and its not being discussed. And you don't see anything wrong in that picture but reckon discussion, even perhaps hasty discussion, is inadvisable. Well, yeah, what can I say.
 Quoting: Marxist

 Quoting: Estella<3


Just, stfu, please.
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Japanese Authorities deny any /fukushima techtonic anomilly...all is well....

AB in 3.. 2....... to confirm.. go playin the snow...

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You can't put out a nuclear blob with water. The water will make it hotter, more radioactive and spend it's fuel faster.

Also creates neutron bursts, adding large amounts of water.

Lead absorbed the free neutrons reducing further fission events.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


But the fire brigade at Chernobyl did exactly that, so much so that the pool underneath had to be swam into by divers and it took a week to drain it all out. You know the story I can see from your posts. Also Akimov and Lelechenko also spent hours (literally melting their flesh off) pumping water into the then non existent core, still no major steam explosion.

Agreed it had no chance of putting it out and made thing much worse but unless there is a large contact of fuel with a large body of water, suddenly, it is possible that we would not see the catastrophic steam explosion that is usually forecast with a melt down. If this occurs deep underground and contact timeframe is slow enough, it may just boil and build up steam pressure that pushes out in all directions, finding the path of least resistance. Also the earth can act as in insulator not allowing the mass to exchange heat and increasing the sink rate.

The problem stems from the fact that there is no prior real world data for any of our conjecture.. Anything is possible IMO
 Quoting: EscapeVelocity


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You can't put out a nuclear blob with water. The water will make it hotter, more radioactive and spend it's fuel faster.

Also creates neutron bursts, adding large amounts of water.

Lead absorbed the free neutrons reducing further fission events.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


But the fire brigade at Chernobyl did exactly that, so much so that the pool underneath had to be swam into by divers and it took a week to drain it all out. You know the story I can see from your posts. Also Akimov and Lelechenko also spent hours (literally melting their flesh off) pumping water into the then non existent core, still no major steam explosion.

Agreed it had no chance of putting it out and made thing much worse but unless there is a large contact of fuel with a large body of water, suddenly, it is possible that we would not see the catastrophic steam explosion that is usually forecast with a melt down. If this occurs deep underground and contact timeframe is slow enough, it may just boil and build up steam pressure that pushes out in all directions, finding the path of least resistance. Also the earth can act as in insulator not allowing the mass to exchange heat and increasing the sink rate.

The problem stems from the fact that there is no prior real world data for any of our conjecture.. Anything is possible IMO
 Quoting: EscapeVelocity


King James Version of Isaiah 5:14.
Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.
- King James Bible "Authorized Version", Pure Cambridge Edition
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all of Earth will become "Hell on Earth"

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