Breaking: China mobilizing troops, jets near N. Korean border

Will all of our coming crippled and maimed soldiers be covered under Obama Care?

I work for a Missile Defense Contractor at our home of Missile Defense and we have numerous analysts and they all agree that the 8.2 Million reserves is highly over-exaggerated. NK does not and could not FUEL, FEED, and resource these troops. It would take their entire country's CONSTANT production just to supply the active troops. It is also common accepted knowledge in the intel group that many of NKs troops would abandon there posts immediately in a large crisis.
Even in peace time they dont have the resources to feed and fuel the population. Just imagine when something real big pops off due to NK jumping the gun; the few resources they have will be cut off instantaneous.

It's been a little too quiet here. When there is any kind of international dispute (Senkaku Islands) the Chinese media is all over it. There has been next to nothing about the NK incident on the news stations.

It's been a little too quiet here. When there is any kind of international dispute (Senkaku Islands) the Chinese media is all over it. There has been next to nothing about the NK incident on the news stations.

Good point.

If you look at the military stats, North Korea outnumbers South Korea in every branch of the military.

If North Korea was pushed back and started to lose the war they could activate their 8.2 million reserves and 5,000 tanks and finish the job on the ground.

In 1950 the Chinese 'human wave' attack only consisted of about 80,000 troops (still a lot by any measure), but if you could imagine a human wave attack of over 1 million (let alone 8.2 million) you get to see the dilemma for the South Koreans and U.S.

It puts the U.S in a position where it risks Chinese or Russian intervention by sending multiple aircraft carriers and hundreds of thousands of troops and heavy armory into China and Russia's backyard. This also means that the U.S would have to pull its carriers and heavy armor from strategically important areas protecting other allies (i.e, Israel, Persian Gulf, etc...)

If the U.S decides to revoke its 'first use' policy of nuclear weapons and deal with the NK threat by nuking its way to victory, that invites a series of variables that involve some pretty ugly miscalculations (not to mention full Japanese rearmament and acquisition of an ICBM capability that would have far-reaching global implications).

So, in summary........

If North Korea uses its FULL military might it would probably overwhelm the relatively small SK-US force and win, unless the U.S is happy to send a quarter of its military on to China's and Russia's doorstep and possibly start WW3.

I work for a Missile Defense Contractor at our home of Missile Defense and we have numerous analysts and they all agree that the 8.2 Million reserves is highly over-exaggerated. NK does not and could not FUEL, FEED, and resource these troops. It would take their entire country's CONSTANT production just to supply the active troops. It is also common accepted knowledge in the intel group that many of NKs troops would abandon there posts immediately in a large crisis.
Even in peace time they dont have the resources to feed and fuel the population. Just imagine when something real big pops off due to NK jumping the gun; the few resources they have will be cut off instantaneous.

I work for a Missile Defense Contractor at our home of Missile Defense and we have numerous analysts and they all agree that the 8.2 Million reserves is highly over-exaggerated. NK does not and could not FUEL, FEED, and resource these troops. It would take their entire country's CONSTANT production just to supply the active troops. It is also common accepted knowledge in the intel group that many of NKs troops would abandon there posts immediately in a large crisis.
Even in peace time they dont have the resources to feed and fuel the population. Just imagine when something real big pops off due to NK jumping the gun; the few resources they have will be cut off instantaneous.

Yes that number is certainly an exaggeration, it would mean NK has a bigger army than China by far. And even if they can remotely field something like that, what shape would they be in?

You are over-thinking things way, way too much. This isn't the 1940s-1960s.

This would not be a conflict. Do you even realize the US Congress has not declared a "War" since WW2? Everything else has been considered a conflict...Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan etc.

The semantics of Congress declaring war has repercussions you don't even realize. Giving the US free reign to neutralize targets by any and all means. Where every conflict since WW2 they had to worry about civilian casualties and an enemy using guerilla tactics.

That would be over in a heartbeat.

Not sure why you think the US would put any boots on the ground, when in reality that is the last thing they would do after Air and Sea.

There are many means with conventional weapons to stop a million man army from crossing the border. It is actually extremely easy to inflict devastating mass casualties since they are so grouped together.

Why you guys think all the US military tech that you see is the only things we have are beyond me. The reality is the tech is 40-50 years beyond what many comprehend.

and they should. we moved our fighters, naturally they move theirs. china wont let a peaceful communist country be taken on by america. china wont fire, neither will america. we are just getting ground on the new world order

and they should. we moved our fighters, naturally they move theirs. china wont let a peaceful communist country be taken on by america. china wont fire, neither will america. we are just getting ground on the new world order

I agree with the general thrust of your argument, I don't think most people recognize how proficient at killing the US military has become. A study of the the unprecedented and anomalous kill ratios in engaged conflict in Gulf War I and 2 should clue everyone in.

Some super sci-fi technology the US posesses could be a possible explanation (better than everything else I heard), or simply a more prosaic combination of advanced technology and training, is up in the air.

Morons, indeed.

The NK have crappier equipment and supplies than Hussein had. More than that...

THEY ARE STARVING. They execute people for cannibalism. They eat grass soup. If they go to war, THEY WILL DIE HORRIBLY because what little food they have or grow will be gone.

They MUST QUIT THREATENING IN TWO WEEKS because that is when most of the army MUST help with planting until mid to late May.

If they had ANY CHANCE of winning a war, they would attack. Instead, it's all BS, nonsense, empty threats.

All Talk. No food. End of story

No food is one of the primary reasons man has gone to war since the dawn of mankind.

Good point.
i am not trying to be a smartie as i appreciate your expertise but i think Your thinktank needs to remember that NPRK'S 2nd main ally is Iran and Iran ir very cash rich ! So Is Venezuela !
If you look at the military stats, North Korea outnumbers South Korea in every branch of the military.

If North Korea was pushed back and started to lose the war they could activate their 8.2 million reserves and 5,000 tanks and finish the job on the ground.

In 1950 the Chinese 'human wave' attack only consisted of about 80,000 troops (still a lot by any measure), but if you could imagine a human wave attack of over 1 million (let alone 8.2 million) you get to see the dilemma for the South Koreans and U.S.

It puts the U.S in a position where it risks Chinese or Russian intervention by sending multiple aircraft carriers and hundreds of thousands of troops and heavy armory into China and Russia's backyard. This also means that the U.S would have to pull its carriers and heavy armor from strategically important areas protecting other allies (i.e, Israel, Persian Gulf, etc...)

If the U.S decides to revoke its 'first use' policy of nuclear weapons and deal with the NK threat by nuking its way to victory, that invites a series of variables that involve some pretty ugly miscalculations (not to mention full Japanese rearmament and acquisition of an ICBM capability that would have far-reaching global implications).

So, in summary........

If North Korea uses its FULL military might it would probably overwhelm the relatively small SK-US force and win, unless the U.S is happy to send a quarter of its military on to China's and Russia's doorstep and possibly start WW3.