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My grandmothers breast cancer has came back for the 3rd time. she wants to try the natural way now. any advice?

 
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Google soda bicarbonate and cancer.. She needs to get her alkaline levels up. Sugar feeds the cancer cells.
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Oh...and prayers for your Grandma for her complete recovery...hf
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Oh...and prayers for your Grandma for her complete recovery...hf
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Pray all you want, but if she's not willing to stop smoking, why bother....
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Your grandmother may have the spirit of cancer. It keeps coming back because the spirit of cancer has not been casted out.

There is a person named brother carlos on youtube, he can cast out the spirit related to cancer just by watching the video.

Ask your grandmother to watch the video "CANCER Demon Diagnosis - HEALTH CHANNEL"


Please this is not a joke, my back pain, arthritis and addiction were all related to evil spirits and were CURED BY JESUS

Just watch that video, then tell her to read this prayer

[link to s1359.photobucket.com]

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One tablespoon of apple cider vinegar every morning followed by a large cup of hot tea, honey and lemon. Try this for 30 consecutive days then have her go get rechecked. This will make a difference.
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Gerson therapy.
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One tablespoon of apple cider vinegar every morning followed by a large cup of hot tea, honey and lemon. Try this for 30 consecutive days then have her go get rechecked. This will make a difference.
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Why not just advise her to put a gun to her own head? That's what you're doing with this BS.
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One tablespoon of apple cider vinegar every morning followed by a large cup of hot tea, honey and lemon. Try this for 30 consecutive days then have her go get rechecked. This will make a difference.
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It certainly will.


It will mean that she's not had any effective treatment for 30 days which could mean the difference between life and death.

Well done for suggesting this you fucking gullible cunt.
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Calin: It was YOU who brought me that knowledge.Hope your sister is well and recovering!
THANK YOU!
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Hi my friend! So, you have been enlightened about salvestrols!?? High five!

My sister was given 6 months if she took chemo and radiation. She finished them over a month ago. She has now stopped all treatment and is on hospice / palliative care. No more chemo. I started her on salvestrols weeks ago - 6000 points per day as recommended by Dr Potter.

She is 87 pounds and still throws up in the middle of the night from the chemo side effects I think. She is weak and on morphine... but still here! Now if she would just stop smoking, I think she would have a better chance to kick the inoperable cancer nodules in her lungs using only salvestrols. Carbon monoxide from smoking inhibits the CYP1B1 enzyme in cancer cells and we want them expressed so the salvestrols can cause apoptosis (cell death) in the cells.

Thank you for your inquiry. ;)

I order them from www.salvestrols.ca
 Quoting: calin


WoW! Smoking doesn't help anything and if she haven't quit yet it's because she doesn't think to have much chance of survival...I say this because a father of friend of mine had the same attitude.But,who am I to say or know what your sister feels?
It's up to you,family and friends to turn her around!I really hope she gets well hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37239867

Yes... tell me about it! She has changed from regular smokes to pure tobacco and paper. However, it is the carbon monoxide that inhibits the enzyme that needs to be targeted. I was told that if she takes one portion of the salvestrols at night (while she is not smoking) that it will still work. The enzyme is only inhibited for 3 days. So, she has a fighting chance now with salvestrol therapy. Before she was told she was going to die. So, she decided to continue to smoke. Oh, I also gave her e-cig to use.

Also, the salvestrols will go right to work on the cancer cells outside of her lungs that travel and create metastatic issues. The carbon monoxide only affects her esophagus and lungs.

Many times you will hear of cancer patients dying from the treatments such as chemo. I know that because one of my friends died that way.
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Subject: MIRACLE DRINK ...IT KILLS CANCER CELLS TOO.....MUST READ ~~

This MIRACLE DRINK has been circulating for a long time long ago. It is worth your while to take note. There is a celebrity Mr. Seto who swears by it. He wants to make it public to draw the attention of people who have cancers. This is a drink that can protect bad cells forming in your body or it will restrain its growth! Mr. Seto had lung cancer.

He was recommended to take this drink by a famous Herbalist from China. He has taken this drink diligently for 3 months and now his health is restored, and he is ready to take a pleasure trip. Thanks to this drink! It does not hurt for you to try.

It is like a Miracle Drink! It is simple.

You need one beet root, one carrot and one apple that
combine together to make the JUICE! Wash the above, cut with the skin on into pieces and put them into the juicer and
immediately you drink the juice.

You can add some lime or lemon for more refreshing taste.
This Miracle Drink will be effective for the following ailments:

1. Prevent cancer cells to develop.It will restrain cancer cells to grow.
2. Prevent liver, kidney,pancreas diseaseand it can cure ulcer as well.
3. Strengthen the lung, prevent heart attack and high blood pressure.
4. Strengthen the immune system
5. Good for the eyesight, eliminate red and tired eyes or dry eyes
6. Help to eliminate pain from physical training, muscle ache
7. Detoxify, assist bowel movement, eliminate constipation.Therefore it will make skin healthy & LOOK more radiant.
It is God sent for acne problem.
8. Improve bad breath due to indigestion, throat infection,
9.pain
10. Assist Hay Fever Sufferer from Hay Fever attack.

There is absolutely no side effect. Highly nutritious and easily absorbed.Very effective if you need to loose weight.You will notice your immune system will be improved after 2 week routine.

Please make sure to drink immediately from the juicer for best effect.

PLEASE SHARE IT WITH YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS.
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.
Winston Churchill
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You see, the problem isn't that the oncologist can't get it to go away. The oncologist keeps getting it to go away.

The problem is AFTER IT'S GONE, it comes back. So, now that it's back, why do something different than what worked twice already?

The time for natural shit is after it's gone, not after it's come back.
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Yes, I get your point. However, you have not researched salvestols. When you do we can have a friendly chat as you will understand!
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Subject: MIRACLE DRINK ...IT KILLS CANCER CELLS TOO.....MUST READ ~~

This MIRACLE DRINK has been circulating for a long time long ago. It is worth your while to take note. There is a celebrity Mr. Seto who swears by it. He wants to make it public to draw the attention of people who have cancers. This is a drink that can protect bad cells forming in your body or it will restrain its growth! Mr. Seto had lung cancer.

He was recommended to take this drink by a famous Herbalist from China. He has taken this drink diligently for 3 months and now his health is restored, and he is ready to take a pleasure trip. Thanks to this drink! It does not hurt for you to try.

It is like a Miracle Drink! It is simple.

You need one beet root, one carrot and one apple that
combine together to make the JUICE! Wash the above, cut with the skin on into pieces and put them into the juicer and
immediately you drink the juice.

You can add some lime or lemon for more refreshing taste.
This Miracle Drink will be effective for the following ailments:

1. Prevent cancer cells to develop.It will restrain cancer cells to grow.
2. Prevent liver, kidney,pancreas diseaseand it can cure ulcer as well.
3. Strengthen the lung, prevent heart attack and high blood pressure.
4. Strengthen the immune system
5. Good for the eyesight, eliminate red and tired eyes or dry eyes
6. Help to eliminate pain from physical training, muscle ache
7. Detoxify, assist bowel movement, eliminate constipation.Therefore it will make skin healthy & LOOK more radiant.
It is God sent for acne problem.
8. Improve bad breath due to indigestion, throat infection,
9.pain
10. Assist Hay Fever Sufferer from Hay Fever attack.

There is absolutely no side effect. Highly nutritious and easily absorbed.Very effective if you need to loose weight.You will notice your immune system will be improved after 2 week routine.

Please make sure to drink immediately from the juicer for best effect.

PLEASE SHARE IT WITH YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS.
 Quoting: Alexander

This is a fine drink... however if it is not organic fruits it will do nothing as the salvestrols are not in pesticide and fungicide sprayed fruits. The salvestrols in the fruits are what makes this cancer fighting. ;)

hf
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Calin: It was YOU who brought me that knowledge.Hope your sister is well and recovering!
THANK YOU!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37239867


Hi my friend! So, you have been enlightened about salvestrols!?? High five!

My sister was given 6 months if she took chemo and radiation. She finished them over a month ago. She has now stopped all treatment and is on hospice / palliative care. No more chemo. I started her on salvestrols weeks ago - 6000 points per day as recommended by Dr Potter.

She is 87 pounds and still throws up in the middle of the night from the chemo side effects I think. She is weak and on morphine... but still here! Now if she would just stop smoking, I think she would have a better chance to kick the inoperable cancer nodules in her lungs using only salvestrols. Carbon monoxide from smoking inhibits the CYP1B1 enzyme in cancer cells and we want them expressed so the salvestrols can cause apoptosis (cell death) in the cells.

Thank you for your inquiry. ;)

I order them from www.salvestrols.ca
 Quoting: calin


WoW! Smoking doesn't help anything and if she haven't quit yet it's because she doesn't think to have much chance of survival...I say this because a father of friend of mine had the same attitude.But,who am I to say or know what your sister feels?
It's up to you,family and friends to turn her around!I really hope she gets well hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37239867

Yes... tell me about it! She has changed from regular smokes to pure tobacco and paper. However, it is the carbon monoxide that inhibits the enzyme that needs to be targeted. I was told that if she takes one portion of the salvestrols at night (while she is not smoking) that it will still work. The enzyme is only inhibited for 3 days. So, she has a fighting chance now with salvestrol therapy. Before she was told she was going to die. So, she decided to continue to smoke. Oh, I also gave her e-cig to use.

Also, the salvestrols will go right to work on the cancer cells outside of her lungs that travel and create metastatic issues. The carbon monoxide only affects her esophagus and lungs.

Many times you will hear of cancer patients dying from the treatments such as chemo. I know that because one of my friends died that way.
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Hey, you were doing okay until you threw that quack-nugget in.
How many people are saved because of chaemo eh?
Far more percentage-wise than those saved by all of the other "cures" mentioned in this thread combined.

Salvestrols have some potential but certainly not in the way you're promoting them. There a very, VERY long way off from being the miracle wonder-drug that you suggest.

BTW, has Gerry Potter recovered completely from his manic depression yet?
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Though I believe in the benefits of a good healthy diet, I am not so sure that I believe in "natural" cures for cancer. If I were your grandmother, I would make sure that the advice I took was from a licensed pharmacist. A few of them are into natural cures.

I think that you grandmom should have started this path long before now in hopes that the cancer wouldn't come back.

My advice is that she should take her doctor's advice.
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Why not just advise her to put a gun to her own head? That's what you're doing with this BS.
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ANOTHER PAID SHILL!! Undoubtedly a troll from the AMA!!! Here's what Granny thinks of your load of crap 5917739!

granny shill

Ever notice how shills never have any solid rebuttal with evidence to counter a tried and proven alternative cancer therapy? I know I'm feeding the troll here, but use discernment when this anonymous shit bag posts anything. That also goes for anonymous 36256833, obviously a British FAG!

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Why not just advise her to put a gun to her own head? That's what you're doing with this BS.
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ANOTHER PAID SHILL!! Undoubtedly a troll from the AMA!!! Here's what Granny thinks of your load of crap 5917739!

granny shill

Ever notice how shills never have any solid rebuttal with evidence to counter a tried and proven alternative cancer therapy? I know I'm feeding the troll here, but use discernment when this anonymous shit bag posts anything. That also goes for anonymous 36256833, obviously a British FAG!
 Quoting: fearno1


The burden of proof is on you vinegar-boy.
You need to prove your bullshit.
I need to disprove nothing.

Your move.

(Oh, and it's my personal view that quack-lickers like you who post nonsensical cures on the internet should be cited as accessories to manslaughter)
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Going natural is the best.

Remember that we are bombarded by so many unnatural things. These cause the cells to mutate.

Fungus, Molds, Candida. Look into these culprits as well.
They mimic cancer on x-rays. No way to tell them apart except a biopsy. You already know that these are mutated cells but keeping your healthy cells in great shape helps your body kill off the mutated ones. The battle is inside the body. chemo always kills the good cells as well hence weakening the natural bodies defense. We were created with this fighting ability.
Remember everyone has mutated cells, we just kill them off and flush them out.

Find ways to do this. Enhance good cells with good food and clean oxygen.

Check out your walls and air ducts for mold and fungus. Also check out the magnetic fields around your house. Electronics are terrible at creating stress on the cells. That is why we feel so great when we go out to the "great outdoors" - a lot less electricity combining with our own electrical currents in ourselves.

Stress is the straw that breaks the camels back. Cells are effected with that as well. Emotional stress.

We are also spiritual. You can not push that aside. You are a created being with a spiritual link. Prayer to your creator. Forgiveness through HIS Son Jeshua of Nazareth. We all have bad thoughts, extressions. He is the spiritual Son who can cleanse the spiritual pains. The spiritual world is both evil and good right now. Seek and you will find.

May God help you and lead you to the truth for your Grandmother. We are all struggling to find the truth. I too have struggled and found a lot of truth. Letting go of habits, traditions, and wrong values is hard to do but possible. It's a world that has creped up in us and we are paying the price in our mental, spiritual and physical health. The world's solutions in chemicals are against everything we were meant to live in. Man never has all the answers. We all seek and look to each other for help. If you are a believer, seek your heavenly father. He will guide you to the answers in your own body. It's there where you live. This is the one thing no one considers. You became what you are today in the environment you are in. Think about that and look.
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Hi my friend! So, you have been enlightened about salvestrols!?? High five!

My sister was given 6 months if she took chemo and radiation. She finished them over a month ago. She has now stopped all treatment and is on hospice / palliative care. No more chemo. I started her on salvestrols weeks ago - 6000 points per day as recommended by Dr Potter.

She is 87 pounds and still throws up in the middle of the night from the chemo side effects I think. She is weak and on morphine... but still here! Now if she would just stop smoking, I think she would have a better chance to kick the inoperable cancer nodules in her lungs using only salvestrols. Carbon monoxide from smoking inhibits the CYP1B1 enzyme in cancer cells and we want them expressed so the salvestrols can cause apoptosis (cell death) in the cells.

Thank you for your inquiry. ;)

I order them from www.salvestrols.ca
 Quoting: calin


WoW! Smoking doesn't help anything and if she haven't quit yet it's because she doesn't think to have much chance of survival...I say this because a father of friend of mine had the same attitude.But,who am I to say or know what your sister feels?
It's up to you,family and friends to turn her around!I really hope she gets well hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37239867

Yes... tell me about it! She has changed from regular smokes to pure tobacco and paper. However, it is the carbon monoxide that inhibits the enzyme that needs to be targeted. I was told that if she takes one portion of the salvestrols at night (while she is not smoking) that it will still work. The enzyme is only inhibited for 3 days. So, she has a fighting chance now with salvestrol therapy. Before she was told she was going to die. So, she decided to continue to smoke. Oh, I also gave her e-cig to use.

Also, the salvestrols will go right to work on the cancer cells outside of her lungs that travel and create metastatic issues. The carbon monoxide only affects her esophagus and lungs.

Many times you will hear of cancer patients dying from the treatments such as chemo. I know that because one of my friends died that way.
 Quoting: calin


Hey, you were doing okay until you threw that quack-nugget in.
How many people are saved because of chaemo eh?
Far more percentage-wise than those saved by all of the other "cures" mentioned in this thread combined.

Salvestrols have some potential but certainly not in the way you're promoting them. There a very, VERY long way off from being the miracle wonder-drug that you suggest.

BTW, has Gerry Potter recovered completely from his manic depression yet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36256833

Please reread what you highlighted. I wrote "many times". My friend was completely free of cancer until they did one more round just to make sure. She died. Her immune system was completely destroyed to fight off any cancer roaming.

Yes, chemo does help. It is not selective though as salvestrols are. Read the statistic on cancer treatment percentages. Alarming to say the least. Cancer docs now say that when you are cured from this one cancer you will die of another later. They are very well aware of the percentages.

Gerry seems to be just fine. He has just recently been awarded his third Royal Society of Chemistry Award for Industrial Innovation for his design and development of Abiraterone acetate. He is the only scientist to win this award more than once.

And.... "Professor Potter is author of over 60 research publications. This research has resulted in his successful patenting of 20 anticancer agents. A common theme throughout his research is the quest for anticancer agents that are selective and harmless to healthy tissue. This research has recently taken Professor Potter into a search for natural anticancer agents that are selective, effective and without side effects. It is this recent research that forms the foundation of the Salvestrol Concept."

So, tell me more about what you know regarding cancer treatments. I am open to your vast knowledge!

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Going natural is the best.

Remember that we are bombarded by so many unnatural things. These cause the cells to mutate.

Fungus, Molds, Candida. Look into these culprits as well.
They mimic cancer on x-rays.
No way to tell them apart except a biopsy. You already know that these are mutated cells but keeping your healthy cells in great shape helps your body kill off the mutated ones. The battle is inside the body. chemo always kills the good cells as well hence weakening the natural bodies defense. We were created with this fighting ability.
Remember everyone has mutated cells, we just kill them off and flush them out.

Find ways to do this. Enhance good cells with good food and clean oxygen.

Check out your walls and air ducts for mold and fungus. Also check out the magnetic fields around your house. Electronics are terrible at creating stress on the cells. That is why we feel so great when we go out to the "great outdoors" - a lot less electricity combining with our own electrical currents in ourselves.

Stress is the straw that breaks the camels back. Cells are effected with that as well. Emotional stress.

We are also spiritual. You can not push that aside. You are a created being with a spiritual link. Prayer to your creator. Forgiveness through HIS Son Jeshua of Nazareth. We all have bad thoughts, extressions. He is the spiritual Son who can cleanse the spiritual pains. The spiritual world is both evil and good right now. Seek and you will find.

May God help you and lead you to the truth for your Grandmother. We are all struggling to find the truth. I too have struggled and found a lot of truth. Letting go of habits, traditions, and wrong values is hard to do but possible. It's a world that has creped up in us and we are paying the price in our mental, spiritual and physical health. The world's solutions in chemicals are against everything we were meant to live in. Man never has all the answers. We all seek and look to each other for help. If you are a believer, seek your heavenly father. He will guide you to the answers in your own body. It's there where you live. This is the one thing no one considers. You became what you are today in the environment you are in. Think about that and look.
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What a pile of shit.

Typical bollocks written by someone who hasn't got a fucking clue what he's talking about.
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Hunny dont buy into all the money making natural herb bull crap.Im telling you none of it works.. my mother had cancer and she bought into all the stupied natual herb mess and all it did was cause her cancer to spread at a much faster rate.. she took chemo for 6 months and was in remission and she was told by someone that if she drinks this so called magic potion full of antioxidents that she woud stay cancer free forever..Well... that didnt happen, after much research I found that the chemo stays in your system a good while after taking it so in other words her remission stage was only up till a point that the chemo was completely expelled from her system.Well when she began taking the so called herb drink full of "wonderful herbs and antioxidents" It caused the chemo to expell completely from her body in a manner of weeks instead of months and itcaused her cancer to come back 10 fold and within a matter of months she was gone.. The antioxidents in those drinks and pills has a reverse reaction to chemo..It actually kills the chemo "which is a toxin by the way" so the antioxidents expells it from your body.. I know you said that the cancer had already come back but if she still has even just a lil amount of chemo that is in her system helping the process to be slow then I would advise you not to rush and go to herbs and antioxidents cause it will cause the cancer to spread at a much faster pace..Please be cautious with that is all im saying..
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WoW! Smoking doesn't help anything and if she haven't quit yet it's because she doesn't think to have much chance of survival...I say this because a father of friend of mine had the same attitude.But,who am I to say or know what your sister feels?
It's up to you,family and friends to turn her around!I really hope she gets well hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37239867

Yes... tell me about it! She has changed from regular smokes to pure tobacco and paper. However, it is the carbon monoxide that inhibits the enzyme that needs to be targeted. I was told that if she takes one portion of the salvestrols at night (while she is not smoking) that it will still work. The enzyme is only inhibited for 3 days. So, she has a fighting chance now with salvestrol therapy. Before she was told she was going to die. So, she decided to continue to smoke. Oh, I also gave her e-cig to use.

Also, the salvestrols will go right to work on the cancer cells outside of her lungs that travel and create metastatic issues. The carbon monoxide only affects her esophagus and lungs.

Many times you will hear of cancer patients dying from the treatments such as chemo. I know that because one of my friends died that way.
 Quoting: calin


Hey, you were doing okay until you threw that quack-nugget in.
How many people are saved because of chaemo eh?
Far more percentage-wise than those saved by all of the other "cures" mentioned in this thread combined.

Salvestrols have some potential but certainly not in the way you're promoting them. There a very, VERY long way off from being the miracle wonder-drug that you suggest.

BTW, has Gerry Potter recovered completely from his manic depression yet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36256833

Please reread what you highlighted. I wrote "many times". My friend was completely free of cancer until they did one more round just to make sure. She died. Her immune system was completely destroyed to fight off any cancer roaming.

Yes, cancer does help. Read the statistic on cancer treatment percentages. alarming to say the least. Cancer docs now say that when you are cured from this one cancer you will dies of another later. they are very well aware of the percentages.

Gerry seems to be just fine. He has just recently been awarded his third Royal Society of Chemistry Award for Industrial Innovation for his design and development of Abiraterone acetate. He is the only scientist to win this award more than once.

And.... "Professor Potter is author of over 60 research publications. This research has resulted in his successful patenting of 20 anticancer agents. A common theme throughout his research is the quest for anticancer agents that are selective and harmless to healthy tissue. This research has recently taken Professor Potter into a search for natural anticancer agents that are selective, effective and without side effects. It is this recent research that forms the foundation of the Salvestrol Concept."

So, tell me more about what you know regarding cancer treatments. I am open to your vast knowledge!
 Quoting: calin


Are you his agent or do just just have a financial interest in him?

How come Gerry's gone to the side of quackery now then?
Is it because he was finding it hard making money doing it the proper way? And did his depression cause him to re-think his financial strategy?
He is (was) indeed a very good scientists and the abiraterone was an amazing achievement. I believe though he went about things in a very scientific manner with that though, hence the awards.
Now though he relies upon posting anecdotal "case studies" on his website to "prove" how well salvestrols work. Why is it I can't find even one of these studies which is corroborated by a full case history and proper documentation?
Red flags raised.

As for my knowledge on cancer treatments?
Let's just say it is quite extensive to say the least.
However, one thing I would never do (just because I'm a responsible adult) is to promote any type of cancer therapy over the internet to someone I'd never met before.
That's also because I have no vested interest in any cancer therapies unlike some on here.
I do however have an absolute abhorrence of quacks and their lackeys.
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Hunny dont buy into all the money making natural herb bull crap.Im telling you none of it works.. my mother had cancer and she bought into all the stupied natual herb mess and all it did was cause her cancer to spread at a much faster rate.. she took chemo for 6 months and was in remission and she was told by someone that if she drinks this so called magic potion full of antioxidents that she woud stay cancer free forever..Well... that didnt happen, after much research I found that the chemo stays in your system a good while after taking it so in other words her remission stage was only up till a point that the chemo was completely expelled from her system.Well when she began taking the so called herb drink full of "wonderful herbs and antioxidents" It caused the chemo to expell completely from her body in a manner of weeks instead of months and itcaused her cancer to come back 10 fold and within a matter of months she was gone.. The antioxidents in those drinks and pills has a reverse reaction to chemo..It actually kills the chemo "which is a toxin by the way" so the antioxidents expells it from your body.. I know you said that the cancer had already come back but if she still has even just a lil amount of chemo that is in her system helping the process to be slow then I would advise you not to rush and go to herbs and antioxidents cause it will cause the cancer to spread at a much faster pace..Please be cautious with that is all im saying..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9161017


You are right about antioxidants.
They can only go so far.

That is why one must take salvestrols in the diet by large amounts. Therefore a supplement was compounded for that high dosage needed.

"Antioxidants strive to protect our cells from DNA damage but are ineffective once the damage is done. Salvestrols work beyond antioxidants by eliminating the damaged cells, and only the damaged cells. Since we all have damaged cells in our bodies, taking Salvestrols helps us heal ourselves before a sufficient accumulation can make us sick."
[link to www.salvestrol.ca] Read more
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that's a zillion remedies here...wonder if any of them really works.
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Hunny dont buy into all the money making natural herb bull crap.Im telling you none of it works.. my mother had cancer and she bought into all the stupied natual herb mess and all it did was cause her cancer to spread at a much faster rate.. she took chemo for 6 months and was in remission and she was told by someone that if she drinks this so called magic potion full of antioxidents that she woud stay cancer free forever..Well... that didnt happen, after much research I found that the chemo stays in your system a good while after taking it so in other words her remission stage was only up till a point that the chemo was completely expelled from her system.Well when she began taking the so called herb drink full of "wonderful herbs and antioxidents" It caused the chemo to expell completely from her body in a manner of weeks instead of months and itcaused her cancer to come back 10 fold and within a matter of months she was gone.. The antioxidents in those drinks and pills has a reverse reaction to chemo..It actually kills the chemo "which is a toxin by the way" so the antioxidents expells it from your body.. I know you said that the cancer had already come back but if she still has even just a lil amount of chemo that is in her system helping the process to be slow then I would advise you not to rush and go to herbs and antioxidents cause it will cause the cancer to spread at a much faster pace..Please be cautious with that is all im saying..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9161017


You are right about antioxidants.
They can only go so far.

That is why one must take salvestrols in the diet by large amounts. Therefore a supplement was compounded for that high dosage needed.

"Antioxidants strive to protect our cells from DNA damage but are ineffective once the damage is done. Salvestrols work beyond antioxidants by eliminating the damaged cells, and only the damaged cells. Since we all have damaged cells in our bodies, taking Salvestrols helps us heal ourselves before a sufficient accumulation can make us sick."
[link to www.salvestrol.ca] Read more
 Quoting: calin


Yes, you should BUY a least 20 bottles more than you will actually need. And don't forget, it may months and months before you see any positive effect so keep on buying them..."

That's almost a verbatim quote from Gerry's site.

Fucking quack.
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Yes... tell me about it! She has changed from regular smokes to pure tobacco and paper. However, it is the carbon monoxide that inhibits the enzyme that needs to be targeted. I was told that if she takes one portion of the salvestrols at night (while she is not smoking) that it will still work. The enzyme is only inhibited for 3 days. So, she has a fighting chance now with salvestrol therapy. Before she was told she was going to die. So, she decided to continue to smoke. Oh, I also gave her e-cig to use.

Also, the salvestrols will go right to work on the cancer cells outside of her lungs that travel and create metastatic issues. The carbon monoxide only affects her esophagus and lungs.

Many times you will hear of cancer patients dying from the treatments such as chemo. I know that because one of my friends died that way.
 Quoting: calin


Hey, you were doing okay until you threw that quack-nugget in.
How many people are saved because of chaemo eh?
Far more percentage-wise than those saved by all of the other "cures" mentioned in this thread combined.

Salvestrols have some potential but certainly not in the way you're promoting them. There a very, VERY long way off from being the miracle wonder-drug that you suggest.

BTW, has Gerry Potter recovered completely from his manic depression yet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36256833

Please reread what you highlighted. I wrote "many times". My friend was completely free of cancer until they did one more round just to make sure. She died. Her immune system was completely destroyed to fight off any cancer roaming.

Yes, cancer does help. Read the statistic on cancer treatment percentages. alarming to say the least. Cancer docs now say that when you are cured from this one cancer you will dies of another later. they are very well aware of the percentages.

Gerry seems to be just fine. He has just recently been awarded his third Royal Society of Chemistry Award for Industrial Innovation for his design and development of Abiraterone acetate. He is the only scientist to win this award more than once.

And.... "Professor Potter is author of over 60 research publications. This research has resulted in his successful patenting of 20 anticancer agents. A common theme throughout his research is the quest for anticancer agents that are selective and harmless to healthy tissue. This research has recently taken Professor Potter into a search for natural anticancer agents that are selective, effective and without side effects. It is this recent research that forms the foundation of the Salvestrol Concept."

So, tell me more about what you know regarding cancer treatments. I am open to your vast knowledge!
 Quoting: calin


Are you his agent or do just just have a financial interest in him?

How come Gerry's gone to the side of quackery now then?
Is it because he was finding it hard making money doing it the proper way? And did his depression cause him to re-think his financial strategy?
He is (was) indeed a very good scientists and the abiraterone was an amazing achievement. I believe though he went about things in a very scientific manner with that though, hence the awards.
Now though he relies upon posting anecdotal "case studies" on his website to "prove" how well salvestrols work. Why is it I can't find even one of these studies which is corroborated by a full case history and proper documentation?
Red flags raised.

As for my knowledge on cancer treatments?
Let's just say it is quite extensive to say the least.
However, one thing I would never do (just because I'm a responsible adult) is to promote any type of cancer therapy over the internet to someone I'd never met before.
That's also because I have no vested interest in any cancer therapies unlike some on here.
I do however have an absolute abhorrence of quacks and their lackeys.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36256833


Wow, you changed your tune quickly. funny!

Of course I don't have a financial interest. I have been on GLP for years and just found out about this from researching since my sister got diagnosed.

If you do know about cancer research, then you also should know that one has to pay millions of dollars for clinical trials. There are clinical trials on resveratrol (which is one type of salvestrol) and a few other kinds. Case studies were published in journals for peer review. Dr Dan Burke give lectures on it. He worked with Potter. You may call him a quack as well if you like. I am sure that doesn't keep him or Potter from making strides in this endeavor. Many doctors are now recommending salvestrol products. Do the research! I just bought some from a local doctor.

You also should know that you can't patent a herb or a plant or a fruit. No one would fund clinical trials - it's insane!

I am surprised that you are even reacting this way. Researchers should be open to all opportunities. So far salvestrols have been proven to eliminate cancer. All cancers.

Good for you that you have an abhorance to quacks and lackys. That is why the FDA and governments are passing laws that over regulate and ban a good deal of natural substances instead of banning proven clinical trial evidence of prescription harmful drugs with harmful side effects.

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Hunny dont buy into all the money making natural herb bull crap.Im telling you none of it works.. my mother had cancer and she bought into all the stupied natual herb mess and all it did was cause her cancer to spread at a much faster rate.. she took chemo for 6 months and was in remission and she was told by someone that if she drinks this so called magic potion full of antioxidents that she woud stay cancer free forever..Well... that didnt happen, after much research I found that the chemo stays in your system a good while after taking it so in other words her remission stage was only up till a point that the chemo was completely expelled from her system.Well when she began taking the so called herb drink full of "wonderful herbs and antioxidents" It caused the chemo to expell completely from her body in a manner of weeks instead of months and itcaused her cancer to come back 10 fold and within a matter of months she was gone.. The antioxidents in those drinks and pills has a reverse reaction to chemo..It actually kills the chemo "which is a toxin by the way" so the antioxidents expells it from your body.. I know you said that the cancer had already come back but if she still has even just a lil amount of chemo that is in her system helping the process to be slow then I would advise you not to rush and go to herbs and antioxidents cause it will cause the cancer to spread at a much faster pace..Please be cautious with that is all im saying..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9161017


You are right about antioxidants.
They can only go so far.

That is why one must take salvestrols in the diet by large amounts. Therefore a supplement was compounded for that high dosage needed.

"Antioxidants strive to protect our cells from DNA damage but are ineffective once the damage is done. Salvestrols work beyond antioxidants by eliminating the damaged cells, and only the damaged cells. Since we all have damaged cells in our bodies, taking Salvestrols helps us heal ourselves before a sufficient accumulation can make us sick."
[link to www.salvestrol.ca] Read more
 Quoting: calin


Yes, you should BUY a least 20 bottles more than you will actually need. And don't forget, it may months and months before you see any positive effect so keep on buying them..."

That's almost a verbatim quote from Gerry's site.

Fucking quack.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36256833


Geez,... now you are being silly!

The compounds are extracts - specific ones. Many have gotten over their detectible cancer problems within months taking 6000 points (6 capsules as day) - Taking smaller amounts like one capsule a day after cure will sweep up any circulating malignant cells.


What site are you referring to? I didn't know Gerry had a site. hmmm...

And you are who???
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Hey, you were doing okay until you threw that quack-nugget in.
How many people are saved because of chaemo eh?
Far more percentage-wise than those saved by all of the other "cures" mentioned in this thread combined.

Salvestrols have some potential but certainly not in the way you're promoting them. There a very, VERY long way off from being the miracle wonder-drug that you suggest.

BTW, has Gerry Potter recovered completely from his manic depression yet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36256833

Please reread what you highlighted. I wrote "many times". My friend was completely free of cancer until they did one more round just to make sure. She died. Her immune system was completely destroyed to fight off any cancer roaming.

Yes, cancer does help. Read the statistic on cancer treatment percentages. alarming to say the least. Cancer docs now say that when you are cured from this one cancer you will dies of another later. they are very well aware of the percentages.

Gerry seems to be just fine. He has just recently been awarded his third Royal Society of Chemistry Award for Industrial Innovation for his design and development of Abiraterone acetate. He is the only scientist to win this award more than once.

And.... "Professor Potter is author of over 60 research publications. This research has resulted in his successful patenting of 20 anticancer agents. A common theme throughout his research is the quest for anticancer agents that are selective and harmless to healthy tissue. This research has recently taken Professor Potter into a search for natural anticancer agents that are selective, effective and without side effects. It is this recent research that forms the foundation of the Salvestrol Concept."

So, tell me more about what you know regarding cancer treatments. I am open to your vast knowledge!
 Quoting: calin


Are you his agent or do just just have a financial interest in him?

How come Gerry's gone to the side of quackery now then?
Is it because he was finding it hard making money doing it the proper way? And did his depression cause him to re-think his financial strategy?
He is (was) indeed a very good scientists and the abiraterone was an amazing achievement. I believe though he went about things in a very scientific manner with that though, hence the awards.
Now though he relies upon posting anecdotal "case studies" on his website to "prove" how well salvestrols work. Why is it I can't find even one of these studies which is corroborated by a full case history and proper documentation?
Red flags raised.

As for my knowledge on cancer treatments?
Let's just say it is quite extensive to say the least.
However, one thing I would never do (just because I'm a responsible adult) is to promote any type of cancer therapy over the internet to someone I'd never met before.
That's also because I have no vested interest in any cancer therapies unlike some on here.
I do however have an absolute abhorrence of quacks and their lackeys.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36256833


Wow, you changed your tune quickly. funny!

Of course I don't have a financial interest. I have been on GLP for years and just found out about this from researching since my sister got diagnosed.

If you do know about cancer research, then you also should know that one has to pay millions of dollars for clinical trials. There are clinical trials on resveratrol (which is one type of salvestrol) and a few other kinds. Case studies were published in journals for peer review. Dr Dan Burke give lectures on it. He worked with Potter. You may call him a quack as well if you like. I am sure that doesn't keep him or Potter from making strides in this endeavor. Many doctors are now recommending salvestrol products. Do the research! I just bought some from a local doctor.

You also should know that you can't patent a herb or a plant or a fruit. No one would fund clinical trials - it's insane!

I am surprised that you are even reacting this way. Researchers should be open to all opportunities. So far salvestrols have been proven to eliminate cancer. All cancers.

Good for you that you have an abhorance to quacks and lackys. That is why the FDA and governments are passing laws that over regulate and ban a good deal of natural substances instead of banning proven clinical trial evidence of prescription harmful drugs with harmful side effects.
 Quoting: calin


Typical quack response.
How have I changed my tune? Seriously, how?

Dan Burke is an orthomolecular practitioner I believe, that says it all for me.

What you should know is that although you can't patent a specific herb or plant you can patent a use for it or one of its constituents. Another quack-based myth I'm afraid.
The vast majority of regulated drugs out there are based upon plants.
ALL of these drugs have had clinical trials so why can't you perform them on salvestrols? Are they exempt for some reason?

And the closing gambit of the big, bad FDA.

A classic quack rebuttal.
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Hunny dont buy into all the money making natural herb bull crap.Im telling you none of it works.. my mother had cancer and she bought into all the stupied natual herb mess and all it did was cause her cancer to spread at a much faster rate.. she took chemo for 6 months and was in remission and she was told by someone that if she drinks this so called magic potion full of antioxidents that she woud stay cancer free forever..Well... that didnt happen, after much research I found that the chemo stays in your system a good while after taking it so in other words her remission stage was only up till a point that the chemo was completely expelled from her system.Well when she began taking the so called herb drink full of "wonderful herbs and antioxidents" It caused the chemo to expell completely from her body in a manner of weeks instead of months and itcaused her cancer to come back 10 fold and within a matter of months she was gone.. The antioxidents in those drinks and pills has a reverse reaction to chemo..It actually kills the chemo "which is a toxin by the way" so the antioxidents expells it from your body.. I know you said that the cancer had already come back but if she still has even just a lil amount of chemo that is in her system helping the process to be slow then I would advise you not to rush and go to herbs and antioxidents cause it will cause the cancer to spread at a much faster pace..Please be cautious with that is all im saying..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9161017


You are right about antioxidants.
They can only go so far.

That is why one must take salvestrols in the diet by large amounts. Therefore a supplement was compounded for that high dosage needed.

"Antioxidants strive to protect our cells from DNA damage but are ineffective once the damage is done. Salvestrols work beyond antioxidants by eliminating the damaged cells, and only the damaged cells. Since we all have damaged cells in our bodies, taking Salvestrols helps us heal ourselves before a sufficient accumulation can make us sick."
[link to www.salvestrol.ca] Read more
 Quoting: calin


Yes, you should BUY a least 20 bottles more than you will actually need. And don't forget, it may months and months before you see any positive effect so keep on buying them..."

That's almost a verbatim quote from Gerry's site.

Fucking quack.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36256833


Geez,... now you are being silly!

The compounds are extracts - specific ones. Many have gotten over their detectible cancer problems within months taking 6000 points (6 capsules as day) - Taking smaller amounts like one capsule a day after cure will sweep up any circulating malignant cells.


What site are you referring to? I didn't know Gerry had a site. hmmm...

And you are who???
 Quoting: calin


If they did what they're supposed to they should be proportionately quantifiable, it shouldn't be a "stick your finger in the air" therapy.
And, given that they've been around for several years now there should be plenty of evidence around but strangely there isn'y.
I wonder why?

As for Gerry's site, do your research!
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Please reread what you highlighted. I wrote "many times". My friend was completely free of cancer until they did one more round just to make sure. She died. Her immune system was completely destroyed to fight off any cancer roaming.

Yes, cancer does help. Read the statistic on cancer treatment percentages. alarming to say the least. Cancer docs now say that when you are cured from this one cancer you will dies of another later. they are very well aware of the percentages.

Gerry seems to be just fine. He has just recently been awarded his third Royal Society of Chemistry Award for Industrial Innovation for his design and development of Abiraterone acetate. He is the only scientist to win this award more than once.

And.... "Professor Potter is author of over 60 research publications. This research has resulted in his successful patenting of 20 anticancer agents. A common theme throughout his research is the quest for anticancer agents that are selective and harmless to healthy tissue. This research has recently taken Professor Potter into a search for natural anticancer agents that are selective, effective and without side effects. It is this recent research that forms the foundation of the Salvestrol Concept."

So, tell me more about what you know regarding cancer treatments. I am open to your vast knowledge!
 Quoting: calin


Are you his agent or do just just have a financial interest in him?

How come Gerry's gone to the side of quackery now then?
Is it because he was finding it hard making money doing it the proper way? And did his depression cause him to re-think his financial strategy?
He is (was) indeed a very good scientists and the abiraterone was an amazing achievement. I believe though he went about things in a very scientific manner with that though, hence the awards.
Now though he relies upon posting anecdotal "case studies" on his website to "prove" how well salvestrols work. Why is it I can't find even one of these studies which is corroborated by a full case history and proper documentation?
Red flags raised.

As for my knowledge on cancer treatments?
Let's just say it is quite extensive to say the least.
However, one thing I would never do (just because I'm a responsible adult) is to promote any type of cancer therapy over the internet to someone I'd never met before.
That's also because I have no vested interest in any cancer therapies unlike some on here.
I do however have an absolute abhorrence of quacks and their lackeys.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36256833


Wow, you changed your tune quickly. funny!

Of course I don't have a financial interest. I have been on GLP for years and just found out about this from researching since my sister got diagnosed.

If you do know about cancer research, then you also should know that one has to pay millions of dollars for clinical trials. There are clinical trials on resveratrol (which is one type of salvestrol) and a few other kinds. Case studies were published in journals for peer review. Dr Dan Burke give lectures on it. He worked with Potter. You may call him a quack as well if you like. I am sure that doesn't keep him or Potter from making strides in this endeavor. Many doctors are now recommending salvestrol products. Do the research! I just bought some from a local doctor.

You also should know that you can't patent a herb or a plant or a fruit. No one would fund clinical trials - it's insane!

I am surprised that you are even reacting this way. Researchers should be open to all opportunities. So far salvestrols have been proven to eliminate cancer. All cancers.

Good for you that you have an abhorance to quacks and lackys. That is why the FDA and governments are passing laws that over regulate and ban a good deal of natural substances instead of banning proven clinical trial evidence of prescription harmful drugs with harmful side effects.
 Quoting: calin


Typical quack response.
How have I changed my tune? Seriously, how?

Dan Burke is an orthomolecular practitioner I believe, that says it all for me.

What you should know is that although you can't patent a specific herb or plant you can patent a use for it or one of its constituents. Another quack-based myth I'm afraid.
The vast majority of regulated drugs out there are based upon plants.
ALL of these drugs have had clinical trials so why can't you perform them on salvestrols? Are they exempt for some reason?

And the closing gambit of the big, bad FDA.

A classic quack rebuttal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36256833

You are not being logical. Salvestrol is NOT a drug.

Please do your research before you make comments that are not logical.

Prof Dan Burke:

Emeritus Professor of Pharmaceutical Metabolism

Professor Burke has authored over 200 published research articles and is an expert on the metabolism, toxicity and interaction of drugs, environmental chemicals and natural compounds.

His specialism is the Cytochrome P450, or CYP, enzyme system which he has researched in everything from humans to citrus fruits.

In the 1990s he and his research group discovered the CYP1B1 enzyme which was intrinsic to cancer cells but absent from healthy tissue. This discovery sparked worldwide research into new methods of cancer detection, prevention and treatment.

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