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BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths

 
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Frightening evolution: China reports new bird flu case spreads to Hunan province: 23 dead

Posted on April 27, 2013by The Extinction Protocol

Looking for the culprit: Health officers examine a pigeon for H7N9 at a poultry market in Changsha, Hunan province April 7, 2013. Credit: Reuters/China Daily

April 27, 2013 – CHINA – China on Saturday reported its first case of H7N9 bird flu in the southern province of Hunan, the latest sign the virus that has killed 23 people in the country is continuing to spread. The official Xinhua news agency said the patient was a 64-year-old woman from Shaoyang city who developed a fever on April 14, four days after having contact with poultry. Her condition had improved with treatment, it added. The flu was first detected in March. This week, the World Health Organization called the virus “one of the most lethal,” and said it is more easily transmitted than an earlier strain that has killed hundreds around the world since 2003.None of the 41 people who had come into contact with the newly-confirmed Hunan patient, identified only by the surname Guan, had shown symptoms, Xinhua said. A 54-year-old man who fell ill in Jiangxi province was also being treated in Hunan, where he was diagnosed with H7N9, Xinhua said. The Hunan cases come a day after the eastern province of Fujian reported its first case and during the same week that a man in Taiwan become the first case of the flu outside mainland China. He caught the flu while travelling in China. Chinese scientists confirmed on Thursday that chickens had transmitted the flu to humans. –Reuters



Flu mutating 8 times faster than any flu virus known: The new bird flu could be mutating up to eight times faster than an average flu virus around a protein that binds it to humans, a team of research scientists in Shenzhen says. Dr .He Jiankui, an associate professor at South University of Science and Technology of China, said yesterday that the authorities should be alarmed by the results of their research and step up monitoring and control efforts to prevent a possible pandemic. With genetic code of the virus obtained from mainland authorities, the team scrutinized haemagglutinin, a protein that plays a crucial rule in the process of infection. The protein binds the virus to an animal cell, such as respiratory cells in humans, and bores a hole in the cell’s membrane to allow entry by the virus. The researchers found dramatic mutation of haemagglutinin in one of the four flu strains released for study by the central government. Nine of the protein’s 560 amino acids had changed. In a typical flu virus, only one or two amino acids could change in such a short period of time, He said. “It happened in just one or two weeks. The speed may not have caught up with the HIV, but it’s quite unusual for a flu.” The fast mutation makes the virus’ evolutionary development very hard to predict. “We don’t know whether it will evolve into something harmless or dangerous,” He said. “Our samples are too limited. But the authorities should definitely be alarmed and get prepared for the worst-case scenario.” The origin of the virus was puzzling due to its novelty, but his research suggested some clues that differ from the mainland authorities’ theories. His team compared the new virus strain to all other H7N9 viruses identified in Europe and in other Asian countries that were cited by the Ministry of Agriculture as possible origins of the new bird flu, but found them all very different. In fact, the new bird flu was quite similar to some familiar domestic viruses such as H9N2, H11N9 and H7N3 found in Zhejiang and Jiangsu. He said researchers could not rule out the possibility that the new virus was carried into China by wild birds, but it was more likely to be of local origin. –South China Morning Post [link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com]
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Makes you wonder where this is all going, all the threads you look at the scientist seem to be baffled, which is worrying to say the least.
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The way one or two cases pop up daily make me wonder if people are getting exposed thru dried bird droppings-blowing in the wind.???
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The H7N9 virus has mutations that mean that it spreads from birds to humans more easily than does H5N1. Proximity between bird and mammal populations could also give the virus opportunities for further adaptation to mammals, including humans. An international team of researchers compiled maps for
Nature showing the population densities of chickens, pigs, ducks and humans in many parts of China and throughout Asia.

They calculate that 131 million people, 241 million domestic chickens, 47 million domestic ducks and 22 million pigs live within a 50-kilometre radius of each of the 60 H7N9 human cases that had occurred up to 16 April.
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I am very surprised that there has been no mention of testing mice or rats. Hantavirus is passed by inhaling dried mouse droppings. The black plague was spread by fleas, infesting rats. If you have an open market, then you definitely have rodents. You will also have chicken fleas, which can infest dogs, cats, people etc. The connection may be the open markets, but the vector my be rodents or fleas. It would not take too many rodents, nibbling on infected poultry, to enable a species crossover. The same for pigs. Chinese farmers feed just about anything to their pigs. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that there have been many cases of people feeding dead birds to their pigs. Kinda makes you wonder about the mammalian adaptation, and the many carcases floating down the rivers.

By the way, does anyone else think its a bit worrisome, that Taiwan has not released an update for the 3 health care workers? Then again, the same goes for the mystery flu in Germany.
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The H7N9 virus has mutations that mean that it spreads from birds to humans more easily than does H5N1. Proximity between bird and mammal populations could also give the virus opportunities for further adaptation to mammals, including humans. An international team of researchers compiled maps for
Nature showing the population densities of chickens, pigs, ducks and humans in many parts of China and throughout Asia.

They calculate that 131 million people, 241 million domestic chickens, 47 million domestic ducks and 22 million pigs live within a 50-kilometre radius of each of the 60 H7N9 human cases that had occurred up to 16 April.
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Great find, thanks for this post!
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I am very surprised that there has been no mention of testing mice or rats. Hantavirus is passed by inhaling dried mouse droppings. The black plague was spread by fleas, infesting rats. If you have an open market, then you definitely have rodents. You will also have chicken fleas, which can infest dogs, cats, people etc. The connection may be the open markets, but the vector my be rodents or fleas. It would not take too many rodents, nibbling on infected poultry, to enable a species crossover. The same for pigs. Chinese farmers feed just about anything to their pigs. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that there have been many cases of people feeding dead birds to their pigs. Kinda makes you wonder about the mammalian adaptation, and the many carcases floating down the rivers.

By the way, does anyone else think its a bit worrisome, that Taiwan has not released an update for the 3 health care workers? Then again, the same goes for the mystery flu in Germany.
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The lack of updates is alarming, agreed.
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I am very surprised that there has been no mention of testing mice or rats. Hantavirus is passed by inhaling dried mouse droppings. The black plague was spread by fleas, infesting rats. If you have an open market, then you definitely have rodents. You will also have chicken fleas, which can infest dogs, cats, people etc. The connection may be the open markets, but the vector my be rodents or fleas. It would not take too many rodents, nibbling on infected poultry, to enable a species crossover. The same for pigs. Chinese farmers feed just about anything to their pigs. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that there have been many cases of people feeding dead birds to their pigs. Kinda makes you wonder about the mammalian adaptation, and the many carcases floating down the rivers.

By the way, does anyone else think its a bit worrisome, that Taiwan has not released an update for the 3 health care workers? Then again, the same goes for the mystery flu in Germany.
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My answer to your question would be yes, I think it is worrisome, haven't heard a thing about either story.???
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I am very surprised that there has been no mention of testing mice or rats. Hantavirus is passed by inhaling dried mouse droppings. The black plague was spread by fleas, infesting rats. If you have an open market, then you definitely have rodents. You will also have chicken fleas, which can infest dogs, cats, people etc. The connection may be the open markets, but the vector my be rodents or fleas. It would not take too many rodents, nibbling on infected poultry, to enable a species crossover. The same for pigs. Chinese farmers feed just about anything to their pigs. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that there have been many cases of people feeding dead birds to their pigs. Kinda makes you wonder about the mammalian adaptation, and the many carcases floating down the rivers.

By the way, does anyone else think its a bit worrisome, that Taiwan has not released an update for the 3 health care workers? Then again, the same goes for the mystery flu in Germany.
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Yes they cannot keep the lid on this for too long, can they?
Can't find any info on the German policeman at all. Which makes it look like a cover up.
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thanks for all the updates, guys.
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H7N9, Guangdong: Poultry suspected to be positive for new birdflu virus 

 At present, the batch of poultry no clinical symptoms. Yet found infection.
Dongguan is a big city sprawling between Guangzhou to the north and Shenzhen (just north of Hong Kong) on the south. I recall it as mostly farmland and small towns in 1983, but clearly times have changed. And if H7N9 is confirmed in animals there, Hong Kong will be going to battle stations.
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My apologies if this is not new, I may be losing track. But I'm pretty sure it is.
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H7N9 bird flu spreads to central China's Hunan
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H7N9, Guangdong: Poultry suspected to be positive for new birdflu virus 

 At present, the batch of poultry no clinical symptoms. Yet found infection.
Dongguan is a big city sprawling between Guangzhou to the north and Shenzhen (just north of Hong Kong) on the south. I recall it as mostly farmland and small towns in 1983, but clearly times have changed. And if H7N9 is confirmed in animals there, Hong Kong will be going to battle stations.
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This is a sad find Vic-chick13, what IHave been dreading, the most populated province in China, I think, this is bad bad bad!
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I think this virus is well on it's way, Hong Kong viral soup will give this virus plenty of chances to mutate some more. poor people...
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My guess

to the end of next month we gonna have more than 5000 infected..
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[link to www.cidrap.umn.edu]


does this mean if you had h1n1 your more likely to contract h7n9 ?
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Yes thats right here is some info on your question, read the full article interesting reading.

Original Antigenic Sin was coined in 1960 by Thomas Francis, Jr. in the article On the Doctrine of Original Antigenic Sin) that postulates that when the body’s immune system is exposed to and develops an immunological memory to one virus, it may be less able to mount a defense against a subsequent exposure to a second slightly different version of the virus.
[link to afludiary.blogspot.ca]
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Does that mean people who were vaccinated or only the people who actually had it?
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Going to somewhat repeat my post here as well.

With the recent H7N9 virus being utterly deadly news, the empty cities in the Chinese desert. They are also contesting some islands and whatnot. I am starting to think China will screen their population for the virus and ship off those not infected to places farthest away and give them a chance of survival someplace isolated. Just something that clicked in my mind as I was reading the forum today. I am not usually big on conspiracy theories at all.
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Interesting read, I found this part ringing familiar.

"B: The Chinese population? Or everyone on the planet? Is this part of the population reduction plan? What did they say?

W: Well, there was talk about biological agents being used, described as being flu-like and it would spread like wildfire. Now, they didn't mention it at this meeting, but I know now that it will attack people genetically, not everybody together. How that would happen... I'm not a geneticist, I really don't know. One can only assume that it's linked to DNA in some way."

[link to projectcamelot.org]
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apologies vic chich did not realise you had posted
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does this mean if you had h1n1 your more likely to contract h7n9 ?
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Yes thats right here is some info on your question, read the full article interesting reading.

Original Antigenic Sin was coined in 1960 by Thomas Francis, Jr. in the article On the Doctrine of Original Antigenic Sin) that postulates that when the body’s immune system is exposed to and develops an immunological memory to one virus, it may be less able to mount a defense against a subsequent exposure to a second slightly different version of the virus.
[link to afludiary.blogspot.ca]
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Does that mean people who were vaccinated or only the people who actually had it?
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People who we're vaccinated
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Going to somewhat repeat my post here as well.

With the recent H7N9 virus being utterly deadly news, the empty cities in the Chinese desert. They are also contesting some islands and whatnot. I am starting to think China will screen their population for the virus and ship off those not infected to places farthest away and give them a chance of survival someplace isolated. Just something that clicked in my mind as I was reading the forum today. I am not usually big on conspiracy theories at all.
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Could be You know one of those towns they built was modelled
on a town like mine, I think they are going to use them for propaganda videos for when they take over the world...
But that is just my theory.
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I think this virus is well on it's way, Hong Kong viral soup will give this virus plenty of chances to mutate some more. poor people...
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I know, I think so too. I wish they would hurry up and figure out how the damn chickens are getting it. So far no poultry farms have tested positive, just birds from the markets. I saw on Tandyms OBE thread someone had posted that Ed Dames said in a recent interview that he was concerned with a global pandemic, and that H7N9 might fit the bill!!
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apologies vic chich did not realise you had posted
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No worries! So many articles overlap, it's hard to keep track!
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China reported 10 more cases of the H7N9 avian influenza since early Friday, bringing the total number to 122 including 24 deaths, according to data compiled by Bloomberg and the official Xinhua News Agency. The central province of Hunan confirmed its first case yesterday, while eastern Jiangxi added three more for a total of five, according to Xinhua.

[link to www.bloomberg.com]

noticing different numbers of cases from different sources now. They are starting to pile up more quickly and it seems an accurate number is going to be hard to come by.
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Interesting read, I found this part ringing familiar.

"B: The Chinese population? Or everyone on the planet? Is this part of the population reduction plan? What did they say?

W: Well, there was talk about biological agents being used, described as being flu-like and it would spread like wildfire. Now, they didn't mention it at this meeting, but I know now that it will attack people genetically, not everybody together. How that would happen... I'm not a geneticist, I really don't know. One can only assume that it's linked to DNA in some way."

[link to projectcamelot.org]
 Quoting: x0boxMega720


Hmmmm, that is interesting. Especially considering this virus seems to be targeting older men more so than any other group so far.
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Interesting read, I found this part ringing familiar.

"B: The Chinese population? Or everyone on the planet? Is this part of the population reduction plan? What did they say?

W: Well, there was talk about biological agents being used, described as being flu-like and it would spread like wildfire. Now, they didn't mention it at this meeting, but I know now that it will attack people genetically, not everybody together. How that would happen... I'm not a geneticist, I really don't know. One can only assume that it's linked to DNA in some way."

[link to projectcamelot.org]
 Quoting: x0boxMega720


Hmmmm, that is interesting. Especially considering this virus seems to be targeting older men more so than any other group so far.
 Quoting: Vic-chick13


I was noticing that also and I find it interesting that due to China's one child policy, many of the Chinese have opted to keep a boy child. So it would seem that China has an over abundance of males. Interesting fit if you ask me. co-inkydink, I doubt it.

But then again maybe its because there is far more men than women that we are seeing more men afflicted.

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BEIJING, April 28 (Xinhua) -- Three more H7N9 bird flu cases were confirmed Sunday in east China's Zhejiang and Jiangxi Provinces, according to local authorities.
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does this mean if you had h1n1 your more likely to contract h7n9 ?
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Yes thats right here is some info on your question, read the full article interesting reading.

Original Antigenic Sin was coined in 1960 by Thomas Francis, Jr. in the article On the Doctrine of Original Antigenic Sin) that postulates that when the body’s immune system is exposed to and develops an immunological memory to one virus, it may be less able to mount a defense against a subsequent exposure to a second slightly different version of the virus.
[link to afludiary.blogspot.ca]
 Quoting: prodlikegod


Does that mean people who were vaccinated or only the people who actually had it?
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Both, both create antibodies which recognise the virus filled cell as an invader.
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I think this virus is well on it's way, Hong Kong viral soup will give this virus plenty of chances to mutate some more. poor people...
 Quoting: SpiderJones


I know, I think so too. I wish they would hurry up and figure out how the damn chickens are getting it. So far no poultry farms have tested positive, just birds from the markets. I saw on Tandyms OBE thread someone had posted that Ed Dames said in a recent interview that he was concerned with a global pandemic, and that H7N9 might fit the bill!!
 Quoting: Vic-chick13


They keep mentioning the fact that people and birds test negative during certian windows of exposure- like between 4-6 days after exposure, is neg. result, and neg. blood tests, etc. this is worrisome because they may be getting a lot of false negs. People are ill, but test neg. for a while- very weird virus. They also got neg results from throat swabs, but when they went deeper into the resp. system, got positive results. The people doing the testing do not look like professionals to me, look at the pix of testers, and others handeling chickens. They should be in full bio- hazard gear, and often are not.
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BEIJING, April 28 (Xinhua) -- Three more H7N9 bird flu cases were confirmed Sunday in east China's Zhejiang and Jiangxi Provinces, according to local authorities.
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Hi Vic-chick13, hear any more re: Guangdong province?


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