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BREAKING UPDATE April 21st, 2014 / 421st case / 145 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 228 Cases, 92 deaths

 
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The case reports continue to trickle out of China today, with word of a fifth case from Shandong Province; a 4 year-old who is the child of the first case, reported on Tuesday
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Thanks for the feedback everyone spock

Couple new posts from Recombinomics:

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"In addition to A/Shanghai/1/2013, which was wild type at position 226, A/Hangzhou/1/2013 and A/Jiangsu/1/2013 had L226I, (see map) a receptor binding domain change that signals clonal expansion and human to human transmission"

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"L226I is present in seasonal flu, and signals a human adaptation. It has not been reported in any of the avian sequences, and its presence in identical human sequences raises serious pandemic concerns."
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24 deaths

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And now for the really scary statistics, that will strike fear into the heart of the bravest of us.

Falling out of bed kills 450 people annually in the U.S

Dogs kill 34 people per year in the U.S.

Ants kill 30 people per year

Icicles kill 100 people per year in Russia

Approximately 150 people are killed each year by coconuts

Every year lightning kills 1000 people.

Pen caps cause 100 deaths a year. These deaths occur when people play with pen caps in their mouths and the cap slips in too far, creating a choking hazard.

In 2008, more than 36,000 people died from drug overdoses, and most of these deaths were caused by prescription drugs

Seasonal Influenza and Pneumonia kill 50,097 people a year in the USA alone.


And folks if you really want a reason to be afraid or panic, then its cancer. I won't even tell you the figure, you dont want to know, and i dont wish to cause panic.
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Thanks for the feedback everyone spock

Couple new posts from Recombinomics:

[link to www.recombinomics.com]

"In addition to A/Shanghai/1/2013, which was wild type at position 226, A/Hangzhou/1/2013 and A/Jiangsu/1/2013 had L226I, (see map) a receptor binding domain change that signals clonal expansion and human to human transmission"

[link to www.recombinomics.com]

"L226I is present in seasonal flu, and signals a human adaptation. It has not been reported in any of the avian sequences, and its presence in identical human sequences raises serious pandemic concerns."
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gaah Thanks for this post, I think....gaah
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And now for the really scary statistics, that will strike fear into the heart of the bravest of us.

Falling out of bed kills 450 people annually in the U.S

Dogs kill 34 people per year in the U.S.

Ants kill 30 people per year

Icicles kill 100 people per year in Russia

Approximately 150 people are killed each year by coconuts

Every year lightning kills 1000 people.

Pen caps cause 100 deaths a year. These deaths occur when people play with pen caps in their mouths and the cap slips in too far, creating a choking hazard.

In 2008, more than 36,000 people died from drug overdoses, and most of these deaths were caused by prescription drugs

Seasonal Influenza and Pneumonia kill 50,097 people a year in the USA alone.


And folks if you really want a reason to be afraid or panic, then its cancer. I won't even tell you the figure, you dont want to know, and i dont wish to cause panic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38443210


This flu is NOT seasonal- this is a flu new to humans- don't even think of this virus as a "flu" it is much, much worse.
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Thanks for the feedback everyone spock

Couple new posts from Recombinomics:

[link to www.recombinomics.com]

"In addition to A/Shanghai/1/2013, which was wild type at position 226, A/Hangzhou/1/2013 and A/Jiangsu/1/2013 had L226I, (see map) a receptor binding domain change that signals clonal expansion and human to human transmission"

[link to www.recombinomics.com]

"L226I is present in seasonal flu, and signals a human adaptation. It has not been reported in any of the avian sequences, and its presence in identical human sequences raises serious pandemic concerns."
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Great info, thanks for those links.
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Approximately 150 people are killed each year by coconuts
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Fruit Ninjas! tounge
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And now for the really scary statistics, that will strike fear into the heart of the bravest of us.

Falling out of bed kills 450 people annually in the U.S

Dogs kill 34 people per year in the U.S.

Ants kill 30 people per year

Icicles kill 100 people per year in Russia

Approximately 150 people are killed each year by coconuts

Every year lightning kills 1000 people.

Pen caps cause 100 deaths a year. These deaths occur when people play with pen caps in their mouths and the cap slips in too far, creating a choking hazard.

In 2008, more than 36,000 people died from drug overdoses, and most of these deaths were caused by prescription drugs

Seasonal Influenza and Pneumonia kill 50,097 people a year in the USA alone.


And folks if you really want a reason to be afraid or panic, then its cancer. I won't even tell you the figure, you dont want to know, and i dont wish to cause panic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38443210


This flu is NOT seasonal- this is a flu new to humans- don't even think of this virus as a "flu" it is much, much worse.
 Quoting: SpiderJones


Spider is correct. When news of H7N9 first came out, the specter of efficient human to human transmission was a lot farther away than it is today. More family connected cases, gene mutations that bring it closer to h2h every day, cases in more widespread areas. The big 'IF' is rapidly becoming a 'when'. Humans have no natural immunity to this, if it goes hot the only way to avoid it will be to bug-in for months.
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and the when is very close indeed ........it is irrisponsable not to prepare for the worst at this point, not panic but sensible decisions will help authority to be able to do its work more effectivly , and help those who are unable to help themselves hf
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any time this could become human to human transmission if it hasn;t all ready
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prepare for human to human transmission
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39030915


"For lack of a solution, they advertised that no problem existed."
Does anyone here really believe they're above doing the same again?
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the mammalian change has already taken place , and there have been reported family clusters , as well as patients who have had no direct contact with birds , contracting h7n9 its clear that present testing is not 100%
accurate ......then consider the incubation period up to 10 days in some people , the asymptomatic cases ......the truth is here not sure if this is human to human transmission .
It is limited granted ...but already transmitting between people ....
Perhaps one or two then the virus dies , would explain the slow build up rate ,
hf
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"For lack of a solution, they advertised that no problem existed."
Does anyone here really believe they're above doing the same again?
 Quoting: Vic-chick13


I believe that for reasons of finance , current world depression they will try to delay announcig a pandemic for as long as possible .
They can not say theres no problem but they manipulate numbers to try calm fears and business , might be good to which money moving out of china markets ....
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Wow, these people pull no punches. Ugh.
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"For lack of a solution, they advertised that no problem existed."
Does anyone here really believe they're above doing the same again?
 Quoting: Vic-chick13


That's the norm, and until there's something they can point to as a panacea, you can bet the lid will stay on this. They were pretty open, sending out gene sequences and information until they discovered that the anti-virals don't work. Whoops. Lid back on.
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This is important:

During March 28 and April 9, 2013, the patient traveled to Suzhou. On April 9, he returned to Taiwan from Shanghai. According to the case, he had not been exposed to birds and poultry during his stay in Suzhou and had not consumed undercooked poultry or eggs. On April 12, he developed fever, sweating, and fatigue, but no respiratory or gastrointestinal symptoms. On April 16, he sought medical attention at a clinic when he developed high fever and was transferred to a hospital by the physician. He was then hospitalized in a single-patient room for further treatment. On April 16, he was administered Tamiflu. On April 18, his chest x-ray showed interstitial infiltrate in the right lower lung. On the night of April 19, his conditions worsened. On April 20, he was transferred to a medical center for further treatment. He was then intubated due to respiratory failure and placed in the negative-pressure isolation room in the intensive care unit. During his stay in the hospitals, two throat swab specimens were collected and both tested negative for avian influenza A (H7N9) virus by real-time RT-PCR. On April 22, the medical center collected a sputum specimen from the patient and the specimen was tested positive for influenza A. In the morning of April 24, avian influenza A (H7N9) virus was detected in the sputum specimen using real-time RT-PCR. In the later afternoon of April 24, the National Influenza Center in Taiwan confirmed the identification and completed the genome sequencing of the virus.

[link to www.cdc.gov.tw]
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How many have survived and are out of the hospital?
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This is important:

During March 28 and April 9, 2013, the patient traveled to Suzhou. On April 9, he returned to Taiwan from Shanghai. According to the case, he had not been exposed to birds and poultry during his stay in Suzhou and had not consumed undercooked poultry or eggs. On April 12, he developed fever, sweating, and fatigue, but no respiratory or gastrointestinal symptoms. On April 16, he sought medical attention at a clinic when he developed high fever and was transferred to a hospital by the physician. He was then hospitalized in a single-patient room for further treatment. On April 16, he was administered Tamiflu. On April 18, his chest x-ray showed interstitial infiltrate in the right lower lung. On the night of April 19, his conditions worsened. On April 20, he was transferred to a medical center for further treatment. He was then intubated due to respiratory failure and placed in the negative-pressure isolation room in the intensive care unit. During his stay in the hospitals, two throat swab specimens were collected and both tested negative for avian influenza A (H7N9) virus by real-time RT-PCR. On April 22, the medical center collected a sputum specimen from the patient and the specimen was tested positive for influenza A. In the morning of April 24, avian influenza A (H7N9) virus was detected in the sputum specimen using real-time RT-PCR. In the later afternoon of April 24, the National Influenza Center in Taiwan confirmed the identification and completed the genome sequencing of the virus.

[link to www.cdc.gov.tw]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35496356


The reason I posted this excerpt is that this patient was admitted on April 16, but did not test positive for H7N9 until April 24.

There were almost 12 days from the time he felt bad enough to go to a doctor to when they dx H7N9. That is way too long, and makes me concerned that there could be alot more cases of H7N9 being misdiagnosed.
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and china will catch a cold.. they are going to thin the herd over there..
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"china will catch a cold"

Where have I heard that..
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I don't know.

u tel me
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This is important:

During March 28 and April 9, 2013, the patient traveled to Suzhou. On April 9, he returned to Taiwan from Shanghai. According to the case, he had not been exposed to birds and poultry during his stay in Suzhou and had not consumed undercooked poultry or eggs. On April 12, he developed fever, sweating, and fatigue, but no respiratory or gastrointestinal symptoms. On April 16, he sought medical attention at a clinic when he developed high fever and was transferred to a hospital by the physician. He was then hospitalized in a single-patient room for further treatment. On April 16, he was administered Tamiflu. On April 18, his chest x-ray showed interstitial infiltrate in the right lower lung. On the night of April 19, his conditions worsened. On April 20, he was transferred to a medical center for further treatment. He was then intubated due to respiratory failure and placed in the negative-pressure isolation room in the intensive care unit. During his stay in the hospitals, two throat swab specimens were collected and both tested negative for avian influenza A (H7N9) virus by real-time RT-PCR. On April 22, the medical center collected a sputum specimen from the patient and the specimen was tested positive for influenza A. In the morning of April 24, avian influenza A (H7N9) virus was detected in the sputum specimen using real-time RT-PCR. In the later afternoon of April 24, the National Influenza Center in Taiwan confirmed the identification and completed the genome sequencing of the virus.

[link to www.cdc.gov.tw]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35496356


The reason I posted this excerpt is that this patient was admitted on April 16, but did not test positive for H7N9 until April 24.

There were almost 12 days from the time he felt bad enough to go to a doctor to when they dx H7N9. That is way too long, and makes me concerned that there could be alot more cases of H7N9 being misdiagnosed.
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I caught that, but why didn't it show up on real-time, if he already had lung infiltrates when they took the sample?
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How many have survived and are out of the hospital?
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Nine people have left hospital so far.
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This is important:

During March 28 and April 9, 2013, the patient traveled to Suzhou. On April 9, he returned to Taiwan from Shanghai. According to the case, he had not been exposed to birds and poultry during his stay in Suzhou and had not consumed undercooked poultry or eggs. On April 12, he developed fever, sweating, and fatigue, but no respiratory or gastrointestinal symptoms. On April 16, he sought medical attention at a clinic when he developed high fever and was transferred to a hospital by the physician. He was then hospitalized in a single-patient room for further treatment. On April 16, he was administered Tamiflu. On April 18, his chest x-ray showed interstitial infiltrate in the right lower lung. On the night of April 19, his conditions worsened. On April 20, he was transferred to a medical center for further treatment. He was then intubated due to respiratory failure and placed in the negative-pressure isolation room in the intensive care unit. During his stay in the hospitals, two throat swab specimens were collected and both tested negative for avian influenza A (H7N9) virus by real-time RT-PCR. On April 22, the medical center collected a sputum specimen from the patient and the specimen was tested positive for influenza A. In the morning of April 24, avian influenza A (H7N9) virus was detected in the sputum specimen using real-time RT-PCR. In the later afternoon of April 24, the National Influenza Center in Taiwan confirmed the identification and completed the genome sequencing of the virus.

[link to www.cdc.gov.tw]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35496356


Yes, the way people can be infected, ill, and still be negative is really messed-up. This has been reported in a few other instances. This is a stealth virus, which makes it even more frightening.
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This is important:

During March 28 and April 9, 2013, the patient traveled to Suzhou. On April 9, he returned to Taiwan from Shanghai. According to the case, he had not been exposed to birds and poultry during his stay in Suzhou and had not consumed undercooked poultry or eggs. On April 12, he developed fever, sweating, and fatigue, but no respiratory or gastrointestinal symptoms. On April 16, he sought medical attention at a clinic when he developed high fever and was transferred to a hospital by the physician. He was then hospitalized in a single-patient room for further treatment. On April 16, he was administered Tamiflu. On April 18, his chest x-ray showed interstitial infiltrate in the right lower lung. On the night of April 19, his conditions worsened. On April 20, he was transferred to a medical center for further treatment. He was then intubated due to respiratory failure and placed in the negative-pressure isolation room in the intensive care unit. During his stay in the hospitals, two throat swab specimens were collected and both tested negative for avian influenza A (H7N9) virus by real-time RT-PCR. On April 22, the medical center collected a sputum specimen from the patient and the specimen was tested positive for influenza A. In the morning of April 24, avian influenza A (H7N9) virus was detected in the sputum specimen using real-time RT-PCR. In the later afternoon of April 24, the National Influenza Center in Taiwan confirmed the identification and completed the genome sequencing of the virus.

[link to www.cdc.gov.tw]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35496356


The reason I posted this excerpt is that this patient was admitted on April 16, but did not test positive for H7N9 until April 24.

There were almost 12 days from the time he felt bad enough to go to a doctor to when they dx H7N9. That is way too long, and makes me concerned that there could be alot more cases of H7N9 being misdiagnosed.
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I caught that, but why didn't it show up on real-time, if he already had lung infiltrates when they took the sample?
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I don't know - either the test is inadequate or the viral load was not heavy enough to catch.
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This is important:

During March 28 and April 9, 2013, the patient traveled to Suzhou. On April 9, he returned to Taiwan from Shanghai. According to the case, he had not been exposed to birds and poultry during his stay in Suzhou and had not consumed undercooked poultry or eggs. On April 12, he developed fever, sweating, and fatigue, but no respiratory or gastrointestinal symptoms. On April 16, he sought medical attention at a clinic when he developed high fever and was transferred to a hospital by the physician. He was then hospitalized in a single-patient room for further treatment. On April 16, he was administered Tamiflu. On April 18, his chest x-ray showed interstitial infiltrate in the right lower lung. On the night of April 19, his conditions worsened. On April 20, he was transferred to a medical center for further treatment. He was then intubated due to respiratory failure and placed in the negative-pressure isolation room in the intensive care unit. During his stay in the hospitals, two throat swab specimens were collected and both tested negative for avian influenza A (H7N9) virus by real-time RT-PCR. On April 22, the medical center collected a sputum specimen from the patient and the specimen was tested positive for influenza A. In the morning of April 24, avian influenza A (H7N9) virus was detected in the sputum specimen using real-time RT-PCR. In the later afternoon of April 24, the National Influenza Center in Taiwan confirmed the identification and completed the genome sequencing of the virus.

[link to www.cdc.gov.tw]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35496356


The reason I posted this excerpt is that this patient was admitted on April 16, but did not test positive for H7N9 until April 24.

There were almost 12 days from the time he felt bad enough to go to a doctor to when they dx H7N9. That is way too long, and makes me concerned that there could be alot more cases of H7N9 being misdiagnosed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35496356


I caught that, but why didn't it show up on real-time, if he already had lung infiltrates when they took the sample?
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Because they were doing an upper throat swab, or blood tests, both have given false negatives! This sucks.
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How many have survived and are out of the hospital?
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Nine people have left hospital so far.
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