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Survey reveals Britain now has 7 social classes (class calculator in link)

 
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Survey reveals Britain now has 7 social classes (class calculator in link)
People in the UK now fit into seven social classes, a major survey conducted by the BBC suggests.

It says the traditional categories of working, middle and upper class are outdated, fitting 39% of people.

It found a new model of seven social classes ranging from the elite at the top to a "precariat" - the poor, precarious proletariat - at the bottom.

More than 161,000 people took part in the Great British Class Survey, the largest study of class in the UK.


More at link: [link to www.bbc.co.uk]

Class Calculator: [link to www.bbc.co.uk]

Interestingly another thread on here today about the state of democracy in America, now the reason I am linking this is because I see an increase in the number of classes as an interesting transition, almost like we are looping back to square one - bondage: which for Britain was represented by a more classes..

That thread can be found here: The eight stages of Democracy -- how much more time does America have left?
Thread: The eight stages of Democracy -- how much more time does America have left?

For what it is worth I took the class calculator test which came back defining my position as elite.. Not a great thing to admit here, I am not "elite" in any sense of the term, nor am I middle class (I consider myself a master craftsman) however it is interesting that they are using that particular word rather than upper class.

It seems to reaffirm other peoples views that we are indeed returning to bondage controlled by the elite.
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Interesting!
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Interesting!
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I always think the more classes the more rigid the society the less upward mobility the people have and the more bound they are to their position..

Still it is interesting that we frequently talk of the elite, and now it seems they are adopting that moniker.
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Re: Survey reveals Britain now has 7 social classes (class calculator in link)
Our new model includes seven classes.
What class are you?
Class figures


Elite: This is the most privileged class in Great Britain who have high levels of all three capitals. Their high amount of economic capital sets them apart from everyone else.
Established Middle Class: Members of this class have high levels of all three capitals although not as high as the Elite. They are a gregarious and culturally engaged class.
Technical Middle Class: This is a new, small class with high economic capital but seem less culturally engaged. They have relatively few social contacts and so are less socially engaged.
New Affluent Workers: This class has medium levels of economic capital and higher levels of cultural and social capital. They are a young and active group.
Emergent Service Workers: This new class has low economic capital but has high levels of 'emerging' cultural capital and high social capital. This group are young and often found in urban areas.
Traditional Working Class: This class scores low on all forms of the three capitals although they are not the poorest group. The average age of this class is older than the others.
Precariat: This is the most deprived class of all with low levels of economic, cultural and social capital. The everyday lives of members of this class are precarious.

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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That was very interesting!

I am an American, but I was classified in the *elite* sector. This test demonstrates how it is very true that one can "rise" in the US class system. I probably do belong in the elite category based on education, economic, and cultural distinctions, but I am also the grand-daughter of a man from the Appalachian Mountains who couldn't read and write (only a 2nd grade education). I am furthermore, the daughter of a man with a 40 year unionized factory job. I attended a public university (B.A.) and a private university (Masters). My children attend private high schools and elite universities.
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Apparently I am from the established middle class!
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check me out - i, apparently, am the elite


pretty sure the elite have more than one echelon though, coz i know a bunch of people who have way way WAY more to their names than i do


way more, like yachts and nannies n shit like that
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That was very interesting!

I am an American, but I was classified in the *elite* sector. This test demonstrates how it is very true that one can "rise" in the US class system. I probably do belong in the elite category based on education, economic, and cultural distinctions, but I am also the grand-daughter of a man from the Appalachian Mountains who couldn't read and write (only a 2nd grade education). I am furthermore, the daughter of a man with a 40 year unionized factory job. I attended a public university (B.A.) and a private university (Masters). My children attend private high schools and elite universities.
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i am from 'working class stock' myself. i think the deciding factor is that my old man was the black sheep and a tory. self made man, unlike his labour-for-life father and every other relative in his tree
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Anybody here read the book, Class, by the late Paul Fussell?

His book is interesting because he points out how the lowest of the lower classes and the highest of the upper classes actually have traits in common.

That book also has a class indicator quiz included that is geared more to American society. More material class markers (like condition of your Persian rug, number and type of window coverings you have, etc.)are used in his analysis.

The book is a bit dated, but most Americans who read it find it VERY eye opening.
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That was very interesting!

I am an American, but I was classified in the *elite* sector. This test demonstrates how it is very true that one can "rise" in the US class system. I probably do belong in the elite category based on education, economic, and cultural distinctions, but I am also the grand-daughter of a man from the Appalachian Mountains who couldn't read and write (only a 2nd grade education). I am furthermore, the daughter of a man with a 40 year unionized factory job. I attended a public university (B.A.) and a private university (Masters). My children attend private high schools and elite universities.
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i am from 'working class stock' myself. i think the deciding factor is that my old man was the black sheep and a tory. self made man, unlike his labour-for-life father and every other relative in his tree
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:)

Same here - my people were yellow dog Democrats. I became a Reagan Conservative in college (and thus the family black sheep). I'd call myself a conservative/libertarian now.
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People in the UK now fit into seven social classes, a major survey conducted by the BBC suggests.

It says the traditional categories of working, middle and upper class are outdated, fitting 39% of people.

It found a new model of seven social classes ranging from the elite at the top to a "precariat" - the poor, precarious proletariat - at the bottom.

More than 161,000 people took part in the Great British Class Survey, the largest study of class in the UK.


More at link: [link to www.bbc.co.uk]

Class Calculator: [link to www.bbc.co.uk]

Interestingly another thread on here today about the state of democracy in America, now the reason I am linking this is because I see an increase in the number of classes as an interesting transition, almost like we are looping back to square one - bondage: which for Britain was represented by a more classes..

That thread can be found here: The eight stages of Democracy -- how much more time does America have left?
Thread: The eight stages of Democracy -- how much more time does America have left?

For what it is worth I took the class calculator test which came back defining my position as elite.. Not a great thing to admit here, I am not "elite" in any sense of the term, nor am I middle class (I consider myself a master craftsman) however it is interesting that they are using that particular word rather than upper class.

It seems to reaffirm other peoples views that we are indeed returning to bondage controlled by the elite.
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I am an Individual, I adhere to no class only CRASS.

BE exactly who you want to be, do what you want to do
I am he and she is she but you’re the only you

No one else has got your eyes, can see the things you see
It’s up to you to change your life and my life’s up to me

The problems that you suffer from are problems that you make
The shit we have to climb through is the shit we choose to take

If you don’t like the life you live, change it now it’s yours
Nothing has effect if you don’t recognise the cause

If the programme’s not the one you want, get up, turn off the set
It’s only you that can decide what life you’re gonna get

If you don’t like religion you can be the antichrist
If your tired of politics you can be an anarchist

But no one ever changed the church by pulling down a steeple
And you’ll never change the system by bombing number ten

Systems just aren’t made of bricks they’re mostly made of people
You may send them into hiding, but they’ll be back again

If you don’t like the rules they make, refuse to play their game
If you don’t want to be a number, don’t give them your name

If you don’t want to be caught out, refuse to hear their question
Silence is a virtue, use it for your own protection

They’ll try to make you play their game, refuse to show your face
Be exactly who you want to be, do what you want to do

I am he and she is she but you’re the only you


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Re: Survey reveals Britain now has 7 social classes (class calculator in link)
Anybody here read the book, Class, by the late Paul Fussell?

His book is interesting because he points out how the lowest of the lower classes and the highest of the upper classes actually have traits in common.

That book also has a class indicator quiz included that is geared more to American society. More material class markers (like condition of your Persian rug, number and type of window coverings you have, etc.)are used in his analysis.

The book is a bit dated, but most Americans who read it find it VERY eye opening.
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yeah i think the highest and lowest classes probably do have stuff in common. its the fuzzy bit in the middle/the whole tory-labour-lite thing comes from trying to please everyone

we see this in the fact that UKIP (who consider themselves libertarian) actually get a lot of their votes from 'old' labour types (as opposed to new labour)

ukip are made up of people with principles they stick to, whatever their 'colour'
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Precariat - poorest of the poor...


knew that already
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That was very interesting!

I am an American, but I was classified in the *elite* sector. This test demonstrates how it is very true that one can "rise" in the US class system. I probably do belong in the elite category based on education, economic, and cultural distinctions, but I am also the grand-daughter of a man from the Appalachian Mountains who couldn't read and write (only a 2nd grade education). I am furthermore, the daughter of a man with a 40 year unionized factory job. I attended a public university (B.A.) and a private university (Masters). My children attend private high schools and elite universities.
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i am from 'working class stock' myself. i think the deciding factor is that my old man was the black sheep and a tory. self made man, unlike his labour-for-life father and every other relative in his tree
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34765812


:)

Same here - my people were yellow dog Democrats. I became a Reagan Conservative in college (and thus the family black sheep). I'd call myself a conservative/libertarian now.
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yeah, same here. well, more libertarian

i remember my dad saying that he one week day, he left school at lunch time to go get some fish and chips. he was walking along and spotted a post office van (his old man was a postman)

in the van was his dad, asleep. in the middle of the day

'the lazy bastard', said my dad 'union man through and through'
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Re: Survey reveals Britain now has 7 social classes (class calculator in link)
The U.K. only has two ethical classes. Those that make money on financialization scams like LIBOR. and everybody else.
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What are the questions?
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Apparently I am from the established middle class!
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Same here
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Re: Survey reveals Britain now has 7 social classes (class calculator in link)
The U.K. only has two ethical classes. Those that make money on financialization scams like LIBOR. and everybody else.
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hear hear. You could go further and say it's the City vs the rest of us. And they are winning.
I don't think so,
he's up there with the others laying low,
vying with those who you've traded your life to to bless your soul,
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Precariat - poorest of the poor...


knew that already
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Me too , you're not alone....
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Here is a similar quiz based on the Class book:

[link to www.okcupid.com]

(I am ranked upper middle class in this one.)
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traditional working class....
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traditional worker here to
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Precariat - poorest of the poor...


knew that already
 Quoting: Nanna-Ree



Same here

Result: the class group you most closely match is:
Precariat

This is the poorest and most deprived class group. According to the Great British Class Survey results, lots of people in this group:





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