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What is Hell? Fire and Brimstone

 
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Hell is what you make it.

If one multiplies their suffering in life, their reality can become rather hellish.
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mumcub The thing about hell is that it should be looked at from a very personal point of view, because that's the place that we are all headed to, unless we turn to the Lord, as this man was fortunate enough to find out.

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Hell is from a pagan belief.
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Like hell it is!!! It's an invention of the damn church.

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Hell is from a pagan belief.
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Tell that to the people who used to live here-

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I have three thoughts and am hoping this is open for discussion.

First, Hell is not a deterrent from disbelief. If one doesn't believe it to exist because the belief requires faith and that lack of faith merits consequences, punishing the individual by proving it exists seems to serve no purpose in setting a precedent for other sinners. It's worth noting that if it could be proven to exist, it would eliminate the concept of faith in the first place.

Secondly, if everything happens for a reason then we are to learn from our mistakes. It can be concluded that the purpose of consequences is rehabilitation. But, what is the purpose of knowledge that can't be used? If the sentence lasts for eternity, what would God have to gain from it?

Finally, is the purpose of Hell to punish the sinner or reward the saint? For me to remain an idealist, I have to live my life believing that those who may do harm to others do so out of misunderstanding, either for what the victim's intentions are or towards a reasonable privilege everyone is entitled to. That being said, it takes quite a great deal of cynicism and bitterness to find comfort in the suffering of others through eternal torture for mistakes they made in this short, complicated life that revolves around logic and reason.
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There are two Kingdoms. One is hell and the other is the Kingdom of God and his Son Jesus Christ. What we are in is the result of trying to forge the two.

The spiritual victory of Christ over death is done. The first shall be last and the last shall be first. Christ is the alpha and omega. This place of smoke and mirrors is being brought to a point. The wheat shall be separated from the chaff. The beginning will meet the end. The eternally damned will be thrown into the lake of fire with hell and death.

That which is for and of Heaven will see newness in the form a new earth and a New Heaven.

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Lets begin with DNA... a more 'sure word' of Prophecy.

unclemikey-373

We see that the Center is comprised of Hydrogen bonds... kind of like the Sun in our sky... which is made of Hydrogen as well as other compounds.

'Orbiting' the 'Sun'... we have two Phosp-Horus planets... kinda like Venus.

What is Venus/Phosp-Horus?

LUCIFER

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

What is Lucifer?

FIRE.

Lucifer/Fire is Element 15. Sulphur/Brimstone is element 16.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Sooo... the term "Fire and Brimstone" is Lucifer and Hell... or Lucifer and Satan/Death if you want.

Elements 15 and 16.

Now that we understand the basics... we can see in which way we would like to go in life.


I've created a 'BALANCE' scale to see this better.

unclemikey-364

On the left we have 'Christ/Hydrogen/Life/Light'... numero UNO.

On the right we have Lucifer/Fire and Brimstone/Satan/Death.

At the very center we have 'Balance'.

balanced

I'm using a chicken to represent all of the scared individuals out there that 'Sit on the fence' of 'Balance' and are afraid of venturing towards one side or the other.

The 'Hero's Journey' is the one that walks towards the Light of Christ.

The 'Fools Journey' is the one that walks towards the False Light of Lucifer.

You cannot climb to heaven that way, but you can always try!

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there is no heaven and no hell. Even if hell was real wouldn't our souls need nerve endings with pain receptors to make the fire pain of hell possible? Just a thoughtl
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it takes quite a great deal of cynicism and bitterness to find comfort in the suffering of others
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Most of the fundementalists on here have those qualities in abundance ;)
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cold winter
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kool thread and 5 stars
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Hell is the life we are living in on earth. Once you accept that it is this then life is calmer. Better things await my friend ......l.
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Heaven and Hell are the same place, this is the great trick of the bible.

I will do my own thread on this but now consider this ...

Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

Revelations 1:14-15 His head and his hair were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; And his feet like to fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace.
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No demons, just you falling for black magic tricks.
 Quoting: Gnostic Warrior


sooo, the entire exorcist arm of the
Vatican is a complete propaganda hoax
and there is no such thing as demon
possession ???

I see
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37433609


we manufacture our own hells, yes. I have seen them in my dreams only and there are good spirits and bad spirits. earthy and heavenly
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You don't need words to speak on this thread.
Icon symbols work just fine.

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Putin winks Tell the KGB I said hello hi
 Quoting: Gnostic Warrior


^^LIKE^^^
 Quoting: Kootsweet


hf
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it takes quite a great deal of cynicism and bitterness to find comfort in the suffering of others
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27317240


Most of the fundementalists on here have those qualities in abundance ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8909143


Hell is a place people WISH TO GO.

Yes... you heard that right.

Weak individuals that want to suck on mommy's titties for all eternity.

Go to her... she calls you... you can't refuse...

unclemikey-310

You New Age types that promote the Luciferian "Divine Feminine".

Wait until she arrives in the flesh and steals your wives and husbands away from you.



Balance indeed.

lmao
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we're already in Hell. Reincarnated here over and over (for an eternity)..... Look around you, we're in hell, and we are here for eternity.
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to me
this makes logical sense

also explains why we are
slaves to the elite

also explains why religion
teaches obedience so we
do not upset hell's
hierarchy structure
by rebellion.
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we are reincarnated into the material world on a planet that has rulers as does every planet with intelligent life I AM sure. we do live one a planet where one can essentially buy himself out of servitude so at least there is that option.

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Heaven and Hell are the same place, this is the great trick of the bible.

I will do my own thread on this but now consider this ...

Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

Revelations 1:14-15 His head and his hair were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; And his feet like to fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace.
.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308


When you learn to control the elements, you can achieve amazing things!

Some perspective...

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Hell is from a pagan belief.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


Tell that to the people who used to live here-


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VERY Interesting, thanks for the video hf
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What we are in is the result of trying to forge the two.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


Caught in the middle...

unclemikey-375

unclemikey-389

unclemikey-378

unclemikey-388

unclemikey-399

Heart or Feather??!??

unclemikey-360

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Some have figured out how to serve two masters at the same time and take control of very powerful Magick.

I wonder who?

unclemikey-359
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The Orthodox Church has taught for thousands of years that heaven and hell are both states of Gods Love, God loves the people in hell just as much as he does those in heaven, but those who have strived towards God through asceticism, prayer and poverty while giving glory to the Most Holy Trinity in this life essentially will feel this love as warmth, where on the other hand those who rejected the image of God within them and choose not to be living icons of God (genesis) will feel this love as fire a d torment, basically in the words of Seraphim Rose, what is constant is standing before Christ\" and those who loved him and strove towards him will be illumined, and those who rejected him will be burned. Some Christian sects say hell is separation from God, where that couldn\'t be further from the truth, God is everywhere- even in hell.

\"Our God is a consuming fire\" - Hebrews

He either illumined or burns

Glory to the Most Holy and life giving Trinity.
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Hell is a recent construct, compared to Tartarus, which is where the bad angels were said to have been placed.

As far below Earth as Earth is below Heaven.

It's all bullshit anyway. In this world 'God' does nothing to stop anyone being evil - and this is true for the rest of existence. However, people will go to their own personal 'hells' according to their core beliefs and deeds in this world.

It's not forever either, which is just a concept for something our minds can't comprehend.
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Nothin' like a good ol' soul barbecue.
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\"Our God is a consuming fire\" - Hebrews

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 322602


The fire also guards the way.

Love let's you pass...

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Lets begin with DNA... a more 'sure word' of Prophecy.

unclemikey-373

We see that the Center is comprised of Hydrogen bonds... kind of like the Sun in our sky... which is made of Hydrogen as well as other compounds.

'Orbiting' the 'Sun'... we have two Phosp-Horus planets... kinda like Venus.

What is Venus/Phosp-Horus?

LUCIFER

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

What is Lucifer?

FIRE.

Lucifer/Fire is Element 15. Sulphur/Brimstone is element 16.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Sooo... the term "Fire and Brimstone" is Lucifer and Hell... or Lucifer and Satan/Death if you want.

Elements 15 and 16.

Now that we understand the basics... we can see in which way we would like to go in life.


I've created a 'BALANCE' scale to see this better.

unclemikey-364

On the left we have 'Christ/Hydrogen/Life/Light'... numero UNO.

On the right we have Lucifer/Fire and Brimstone/Satan/Death.

At the very center we have 'Balance'.

balanced

I'm using a chicken to represent all of the scared individuals out there that 'Sit on the fence' of 'Balance' and are afraid of venturing towards one side or the other.

The 'Hero's Journey' is the one that walks towards the Light of Christ.

The 'Fools Journey' is the one that walks towards the False Light of Lucifer.

You cannot climb to heaven that way, but you can always try!

unclemikey-367
 Quoting: Uncle Mikey


Thanks Uncle Mikey and much of this is new to me, but here is my interpretation.

Phosphorus which is also known as the philosopher’s stone is the Alpha and Omega of both our DNA and all life. Phosphorus is also known as Lucifer, the morning star and got its name because it glows in the dark like the planet Jupiter. It is the light bringer who in Hebrew is known as Heylel because phosphorus is the number one chemical substance in nature and life that brings light to the dark.

Revelation 22:16 – “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”

This is the manna spoken of by Saint John in Revelation 2:17 – He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will give some of the hidden manna. I will also give him a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it. And in Psalm 78:24 - he rained down manna for the people to eat, he gave them the grain of heaven.

In the book, Hermetic Chemistry (1894) by Paracelsus and author Arthur Edward Waite, it explains this process;

This operation is esteemed by the Magi as a mixture and conjunction by the uniting of three constituents, body, soul, and spirit. When this union is completed there results from it a pure Mercury. Now if this, when flowing down through its subterranean passages and veins, meets with a chaotic Sulphur, the Mercury is coagulated by it according to the condition of the Sulphur.

mmmmmm CHAOTIC SULFER?

So the goal is Gold by way of pure mercury, but when it meets with a chaotic Sulphur, the Mercury is coagulated by it according to the condition of the Sulphur.

Almadir, had written – “We extract our Mercury from one perfect body and two perfect natural conditions incorporated together, which indeed puts forth externally its perfection, whereby it is able to resist the fire, so that its internal imperfection may be protected by the external perfections.”

Water, let me get to that in a second ;)
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Nothin' like a good ol' soul barbecue.
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A sweet aroma.

I wonder why the Brazen BBQ had Ox Horns?

unclemikey-270

Lucifer hungy?

isis
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To him who overcomes, I will give some of the hidden manna. I will also give him a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it.
 Quoting: Gnostic Warrior


I've been looking into that.

My latest theory is that this 'White Stone' is a future DNA 'upgrade' that either replaces our Phosphorus bonds, or compliments it somehow.

A "New Name" is a type of "Encryption Key", tied to a person, so that it cannot be used by someone else.

This White Stone is tied to Chief Cornerstone and there are passages that say it can turn someone into dust.

This to me is hinting at something nuclear... which would be required to master our new Light Bodies and appear as whirlwinds...

unclemikey-388

No UFO required. It would simply be mind over matter.

ohyeah
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I wonder what soul tastes like.
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Some have figured out how to serve two masters at the same time and take control of very powerful Magick.

I wonder who?

unclemikey-359
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dine in hell

bart sex

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