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Who is your money on? N.Korea/China or S.Korea/US?

 
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china have already defeated the US economically, They don't need warfare.

N korea won't do anything, they are a dog who barks with no bite.
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My money is on the US to destroy the US. Think about it.
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My money is on the US to destroy the US. Think about it.
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I so should have added that to the poll.
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NK could take SK and then halt military operations dragging on peace negotiations for decades with China's help.

The missile threat talk is just cover for a ground operation on the Korean Peninsula.
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Funny how the red dawn movie was forced to change from Chinese people to Koreans.
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That kinda' pissed me off. When they reshot it, they eliminated the communist Chinese wanted posters. That made my avatar really obscure. Nobody knows where th pic came from. When the movie was being shot, you could go to their web site and put your pic in the poster. It seemed like a good idea.
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Any American who bet against his/her own country should be fed to hogs.
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my money is on a false flag
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+1
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It's not going to be just S.Korea/US if China gets involved, Canada would jump in as well as United Kingdom and the rest of the NATO forces. There will be no specific victor in WW3 except the Anti-Christ so he can finally establish a one world government.
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The answer to the poll question depends on what the objective is:

If it's long-term strategic objective, my money is on China. That is because their proxy will do the job of taking out U.S bases in South Korea, Guam, Okinawa and maybe even Hawaii. Also, it's likely that as a result the North Korean regime will be wiped off the map, eliminating a trouble-maker on China's border and unifying the two Koreas with a caretaker regime in Pyonyang that China will undoubtedly influence.

So, with U.S and South Korean military bases incapacitated (if not destroyed entirely) in China's backyard, the Chinese will emerge the biggest victor because not one of their soldiers, tanks, aircraft, ships, submarines, missiles or piece of infrastructure will have been lost during such a war. To boot, they will probably acquire any strategic coastal location and/or port in North Korea free of charge or effort.

To be, that's maximum gain for minimal effort.
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there will be no winners!
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It'll fade away and back to Illuminati and alien abduction...
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I think we all know who the real winners are here,

The Jews
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28885982


What makes you think that?
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Vote

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I will vote after you add the key player. UK/UN/EU/NATO

Are they really that clever that only wise men can see them?

COMMON YOU PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE AMERICANS
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This is the battle of battles. The battle spoke of in scripture. GOOD AGAINST EVIL and all you list are the good?

Please, wake my brother/sister.
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04/04/2013 05:27 PM
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Who gets more gold medals in the Olympics?
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North Korea will come out strong. They'll force the US navy to stay a long way out to see and also to use resources trying to coral their sub fleet. Their army will roll deep into the south. A week later the North will be stalled as US aircraft unleash a never ending hell from above. Strategic strikes inside NK will hurt them badly. Several hundred cruise missiles will also be employed to hit the North where it hurts.

Two weeks later an allied counter attack will send NK reeling. Simultaneously the US navy will roar in with 3 carriers and enough attack subs to squash the feeble NK navy.

Seeing the North faltering China will begin clandestine assistance and end up getting involved overtly. Now the US and china are in open war. The US disavows it's debt to China and sets out to quash it's rival. Ships and aircraft launch a blistering missile attack on Chinese naval assets and destroy half their navy. F22 strikes on coastal airbases leave China with a diminished ability to prosecute offensive war.

The US and China exchange electronic attacks, but in the end the US wins. Meanwhile a massive international armada begin a long range blockade of China that cuts off their food and raw materials. Deep strikes into China choke their ability to produce electricity and steel.

China pledges an unending war, but they are helpless to break the blockade that is too far away to reach. Meanwhile, Japan goes postal and begins an arms build up that is shockingly rapid and prosperous.

3 years into the war China is starving and only able to protest it's fate with the occassional small victory. The US economy is in full swing. Australia has diverted it's raw materials to the US where steel mills are being built as the US churns out new destroyers. Retired carriers are pressed into service even as the new ones are rushed to completion. By 2015 the US has added 6 carriers to the 9 or 10 that survived the opening of the war. China has no ships at all.

The US is reaffirmed as the one great world superpower and the number one economy. The West reasserts it's dominion over the East. Russia keeps it's fucking mouth shut for decades.

Last Edited by Unixlike on 04/04/2013 05:42 PM
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04/04/2013 05:41 PM
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1dunno1
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China isn't going to fuck their trade agreements with the world for nk. Drive your own economy into the ground for nk. What a fucking joke, some people really have no idea of whats going on.
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04/04/2013 05:43 PM
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S.Korea/US for the win. China won't get involved, at least not overtly.
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Funny how the red dawn movie was forced to change from Chinese people to Koreans.
 Quoting: Dr. Manhattan


China would not allow the film to be shown if the invaders were Chinese, hence they changed it so the film could be released in China.

I doubt it would ever be released in N.Korea anyway whether the invaders in the movie were N.Korean or not.
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North Korea will come out strong. They'll force the US navy to stay a long way out to see and also to use resources trying to coral their sub fleet. Their army will roll deep into the south. A week later the North will be stalled as US aircraft unleash a never ending hell from above. Strategic strikes inside NK will hurt them badly. Several hundred cruise missiles will also be employed to hit the North where it hurts.

Two weeks later an allied counter attack will send NK reeling. Simultaneously the US navy will roar in with 3 carriers and enough attack subs to squash the feeble NK navy.

Seeing the North faltering China will begin clandestine assistance and end up getting involved overtly. Now the US and china are in open war. The US disavows it's debt to China and sets out to quash it's rival. Ships and aircraft launch a blistering missile attack on Chinese naval assets and destroy half their navy. F22 strikes on coastal airbases leave China with a diminished ability to prosecute offensive war.

The US and China exchange electronic attacks, but in the end the US wins. Meanwhile a massive international armada begin a long range blockade of China that cuts off their food and raw materials. Deep strikes into China choke their ability to produce electricity and steel.

China pledges an unending war, but they are helpless to break the blockade that is too far away to reach. Meanwhile, Japan goes postal and begins an arms build up that is shockingly rapid and prosperous.

3 years into the war China is starving and only able to protest it's fate with the occassional small victory. The US economy is in full swing. Australia has diverted it's raw materials to the US where steel mills are being built as the US churns out new destroyers. Retired carriers are pressed into service even as the new ones are rushed to completion. By 2015 the US has added 6 carriers to the 9 or 10 that survived the opening of the war. China has no ships at all.

The US is reaffirmed as the one great world superpower and the number one economy. The West reasserts it's dominion over the East. Russia keeps it's fucking mouth shut for decades.
 Quoting: Unixlike


So the US wins, yet it struggles up until the allied forces intervene (UK, Germany, France, basically Nato).
Surely you mean we all win...

Though I doubt Russia would just stay quiet...

PS: You do know during the Korean war, when America got a bit cocky and went too close to China... you got your asses handed to Ya'
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The only winners in wars are the bankers and the bullet makers...
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My money is on Antartica because it will be the only bloody place to live without nuclear fallout and thats where the aliens will start evacuating people towards various colonies among the solar system, especially that infrared cylinder in Saturn's ring.
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North Korea has nothing to lose.

The Us has nothing to lose.

The only thing I see as a gain here is an ego boost.

The US is going to be broke as North Korea at some point in the future.

so, they will most likely go to war.

There will be blood.

Who comes out on top depends on the helping hands at this point.
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North Korea will come out strong. They'll force the US navy to stay a long way out to see and also to use resources trying to coral their sub fleet. Their army will roll deep into the south. A week later the North will be stalled as US aircraft unleash a never ending hell from above. Strategic strikes inside NK will hurt them badly. Several hundred cruise missiles will also be employed to hit the North where it hurts.

Two weeks later an allied counter attack will send NK reeling. Simultaneously the US navy will roar in with 3 carriers and enough attack subs to squash the feeble NK navy.

Seeing the North faltering China will begin clandestine assistance and end up getting involved overtly. Now the US and china are in open war. The US disavows it's debt to China and sets out to quash it's rival. Ships and aircraft launch a blistering missile attack on Chinese naval assets and destroy half their navy. F22 strikes on coastal airbases leave China with a diminished ability to prosecute offensive war.

The US and China exchange electronic attacks, but in the end the US wins. Meanwhile a massive international armada begin a long range blockade of China that cuts off their food and raw materials. Deep strikes into China choke their ability to produce electricity and steel.

China pledges an unending war, but they are helpless to break the blockade that is too far away to reach. Meanwhile, Japan goes postal and begins an arms build up that is shockingly rapid and prosperous.

3 years into the war China is starving and only able to protest it's fate with the occassional small victory. The US economy is in full swing. Australia has diverted it's raw materials to the US where steel mills are being built as the US churns out new destroyers. Retired carriers are pressed into service even as the new ones are rushed to completion. By 2015 the US has added 6 carriers to the 9 or 10 that survived the opening of the war. China has no ships at all.

The US is reaffirmed as the one great world superpower and the number one economy. The West reasserts it's dominion over the East. Russia keeps it's fucking mouth shut for decades.
 Quoting: Unixlike



The two issues I have with this is that China and the U.S each understand that they need one another, both for genuine bilateral reasons and for external national security reasons.

Since the global economy is run by a combination of consumer confidence and investment, a US-China war would be mutually suicidal to both economies. The leaders of both countries understand this.

It's for that reason alone that China would not back the North Koreans, and the U.S would keep away from a war with China.

If, for argument's sake, a war did break out between the US and China for some bizarre and insane reason, Russia would not sit on the sidelines and have its borders used as a nuclear battlefield.

Russia would, in my opinion, immediately go to its version of DEFCON-2 and send its long-range strategic bombers carrying 10-20 megaton nuclear bombs, nuclear attack submarines and its most lethal Destroyers and Cruisers out to mobilize in the Pacific, Atlantic, Indian Ocean and in the Mediterranean.

Moreover, Russian bases in Armenia, Ukraine, Cuba, Vietnam and Syria would go to maximum combat-alert.

Then you would see one of two things happen here:

1. Both U.S and China come to an agreement and diffuse total and global all-out war.

or...

2. Both U.S and China keep fighting, escalate the war and invite the pinnacle of Vladimir Putin's wrath.


If the second of those two happened, the world would wake up the next day to a geopolitical situation in which there were no Superpowers, only a handful of decimated nuclear wastelands burying their dead.
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The only winners in wars are the bankers and the bullet makers...
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True , more lives sacrificed to the cabal.
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Well the Orthodox Jews are certainly abuzz with Biblical prophecies possibly indicating the End Time Messianic event a Korean War might bring!

[link to shiratdevorah.blogspot.co.il]

[link to yeranenyaakov.blogspot.co.il]

[link to yearsofawe.blogspot.co.il]

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I think we all know who the real winners are here,

The Jews
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28885982


I can't even see how even they could benefit from all this.
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Well the Orthodox Jews are certainly abuzz with Biblical prophecies possibly indicating the End Time Messianic event a Korean War might bring!

[link to shiratdevorah.blogspot.co.il]

[link to yeranenyaakov.blogspot.co.il]

[link to yearsofawe.blogspot.co.il]

[link to yearsofawe.blogspot.co.il]

[link to soulmazal.blogspot.co.il]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37443458


only the few thousand nutbars who follow blogs like these
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It would be an easy vote for America... but we have no leadership.

There is no telling whose side Obama is on. I think that he is setting a trap for our military in order to destroy America. That could easily tip the scales in China's favor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37020648


exactly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3922391


Especially since we don't really know who Obama is!

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