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"Shutter Island" and "Inception"

 
theorigionalzombiekil​ler
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"Shutter Island" and "Inception"
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I'm starting to make a connection between the concept of the Aeonic creator twin's(Christos and Sophia) seperation and grief, and the fractured/suffering mind of the male twin, and movies like Shutter Island or Inception.

Both have a male character who became somehow seperated from his female counterpart, and has children who have suffered/died because of this. In Shutter Island, he ultimatly chooses not to remember who he really is because the pain is too much to bear, and in Inception he is "cured", but might actually have just fallen into another level of his mind.

Are stories such as this retellings of the grand cosmic tragedy we have all been witness to?

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Re: "Shutter Island" and "Inception"
Thoughts?
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Re: "Shutter Island" and "Inception"
Thoughts?
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"Sure, I could have stayed in the past. I could have even been king. But in my own way, I am king".

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Lol, any thoughts as to the subject though?
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Re: "Shutter Island" and "Inception"
Bump, for justice.
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It is not HE who has forgotten HER... it is all of YOU.
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Re: "Shutter Island" and "Inception"
I have seen Shutter Island, but not Inception.

I can see parallels along the lines you put forth.

In keeping with that line, I ask then, how do you fit the other force in the movie that is fully aware of his pain, and exploits it to manipulate the male character?
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It is not HE who has forgotten HER... it is all of YOU.
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Could very well be.

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Re: "Shutter Island" and "Inception"
I have seen Shutter Island, but not Inception.

I can see parallels along the lines you put forth.

In keeping with that line, I ask then, how do you fit the other force in the movie that is fully aware of his pain, and exploits it to manipulate the male character?
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Well, I'm pretty new to some of these concepts, but I guess the Demiurge itself could be this force.
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Re: "Shutter Island" and "Inception"
I have seen Shutter Island, but not Inception.

I can see parallels along the lines you put forth.

In keeping with that line, I ask then, how do you fit the other force in the movie that is fully aware of his pain, and exploits it to manipulate the male character?
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Although now that I really think about it, in Shutter Island what he percieved as sinister forces ended up being people trying to help him "wake up" so to speak. Maybe WE are Leonardo DiCaprio's character, and the doctors etc are Christos/The Source trying to free us?
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Same thing goes for Inception, there are theories that the "inception" was actually being performed on Leo because he had somehow trapped himself within his own created worlds. So maybe what was holding him there was his regret at the loss of his wife, and again, maybe we are him, having inception performed on us to try to help us get out of our own mind traps.
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Someone should just ask Leonardo DiCaprio wtf it all means, since he starred in both movies he should know, right?
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Pathetically bumping because I truly want to know.
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Never gonna stop bumping.
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I have seen Shutter Island, but not Inception.

I can see parallels along the lines you put forth.

In keeping with that line, I ask then, how do you fit the other force in the movie that is fully aware of his pain, and exploits it to manipulate the male character?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17006327


Although now that I really think about it, in Shutter Island what he percieved as sinister forces ended up being people trying to help him "wake up" so to speak. Maybe WE are Leonardo DiCaprio's character, and the doctors etc are Christos/The Source trying to free us?
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Dude, you've got Shutter Island all wrong. SHutter island was about MK ultra and project paperclip. The doctors weren't trying to help free him, quite teh opposite. Damn son, might want to take another look.
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Very well could be. I'll take another look.

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Very well could be. I'll take another look.
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IT's actually one of the few movies that "Demands" repeated viewings. I thought the same thing when I first saw it. Research project paperclip and watch again, paying close attention to the mannerisms of the doctors, even Leo's partner... (they're constantly slipping him mind altering drugs... and his partner keeps giving him "cigarrettes"... wonder what could be in those cigarretes.. ) Anyway, it's a masterpiece.
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First you want to kill me, then you want to kiss me..............blow.
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Klaatu Barada NNNNNNecktie. Nectar. Nickel. Noodle. It's an "N" word, it's definitely an "N" word!
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Re: "Shutter Island" and "Inception"
I see a lot of parallels in scripture.

What does one believe? Truth is harder to deal with for some people. They would rather live and believe in a lie.

Also, God can make us blind and deaf - without knowledge and hearing. When God makes us aware of the evil that truly exists in people, it is horrifying.

You understand that there are people who would kill a person for a $100 pair of sneaker....what would others do for a million...?

You finally get to the point where you understand the depth of these words from Jesus:

"Father forgive them, for they know not what they do"
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Christos? I haven't seen either, but from reading the thread, would you throw "The Truman Show" in this mix also?
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I found Shutter Island a better movie over all than inception.
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havn't seen shutter island, but i'm fairly sure inception is just a movie about making movies.
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Re: "Shutter Island" and "Inception"
This video is sort of interesting in mythological parallels.

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Yes, both movies SUCKS!

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This video is sort of interesting in mythological parallels.


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This video is sort of interesting in mythological parallels.


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Very well could be. I'll take another look.
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IT's actually one of the few movies that "Demands" repeated viewings. I thought the same thing when I first saw it. Research project paperclip and watch again, paying close attention to the mannerisms of the doctors, even Leo's partner... (they're constantly slipping him mind altering drugs... and his partner keeps giving him "cigarrettes"... wonder what could be in those cigarretes.. ) Anyway, it's a masterpiece.
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I've only read Shutter Island, but think of the codes and the hair dye in addition to the drugs - gaslighting for sure.
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This is cool shit dude.

I never looked at THOSE movies like that.

hmm

I'll need to ponder that....
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5 stars!

what's your take on
'the butterfly effect'?

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