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"Shutter Island" and "Inception"

 
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I completely agree, to an extent, but your still Unser-informed. The reason why it's in your face at this point is because the elite "revel" in it. In other words they get off on it being right there in front of your face and you not being able topics upon it. It's part of their morl code so to speak hey believe they are free frm any karmic debt, if they spell it out for you... You've got more learning to do, and I mean that in a positive manner. Take it from someone who's been at it for well over a decade my friend.
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This. The so called "Revelation of the Method". If you allow them to do it, even on a subconscious level, you give them your consent.
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Then everyone consents to everything. Where is one credible bit of proof that "they have to tell you beforehand!" That is just utter nonsense.

If I tell you I will kill you, and I do, do you think that absolves me of guilt? Just how ridiculous does that sound? And don't try and tell me "that doesn't matter, THEY believe it." No one can even define who the fk THEY are. Who is they? The illuminati? The elite? Labels that mean nothing.

I'm not attacking you and the other poster, I'm truly not. I used to believe that exact same crap. But that's all it is, crap. Oh, there are elites all right, and they are pulling the strings. But all these bullshit theatrics are just that, fanciful flights of imagination from someone who is too lost in movieland and has forgotten reality. 90% of conspiracy content is just recycled movie plots some con man made a book out of in the 90s, and internet kids just rehash and repost, referring to said con man as a source, without even bothering to check if HE had a legitimate source.

Like MKULTRA. Ok, we have declassified documents and such proving its existence. From the 60s. From fifty fucking years ago. Do you REALLY think they'd still be using the same technology and methods from half a century ago today? Does that make any sense at all? I would think they would have refined it a bit by now. I also would think a govt program like that would only reveal its existence if there were no threats to doing so, because they'd already moved on to a better way. But no, we're supposed to believe they're still on that monarch trip programming people with goddamn butterflies. Oh, and that every major pop singer today was mind controlled in the same way, and they hide secrets in their videos to let you know! So make damn sure you check out every video they release! Watch em over and over again, dissect them so you dont miss the one eye or fkn Baal reference or some other such horseshit.

If they're doing mind control, it's gonna be on the people watching the videos. And they conned a hell of a lot of people into watching, didn't they?

Credit where credit is due. Want to expand your horizons? This guy will take you there: celticrebel.wordpress.com
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You south like an infant shill,no disrespect. God bless all
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I completely agree, to an extent, but your still Unser-informed. The reason why it's in your face at this point is because the elite "revel" in it. In other words they get off on it being right there in front of your face and you not being able topics upon it. It's part of their morl code so to speak hey believe they are free frm any karmic debt, if they spell it out for you... You've got more learning to do, and I mean that in a positive manner. Take it from someone who's been at it for well over a decade my friend.
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This. The so called "Revelation of the Method". If you allow them to do it, even on a subconscious level, you give them your consent.
 Quoting: theorigionalzombiekiller


Then everyone consents to everything. Where is one credible bit of proof that "they have to tell you beforehand!" That is just utter nonsense.

If I tell you I will kill you, and I do, do you think that absolves me of guilt? Just how ridiculous does that sound? And don't try and tell me "that doesn't matter, THEY believe it." No one can even define who the fk THEY are. Who is they? The illuminati? The elite? Labels that mean nothing.

I'm not attacking you and the other poster, I'm truly not. I used to believe that exact same crap. But that's all it is, crap. Oh, there are elites all right, and they are pulling the strings. But all these bullshit theatrics are just that, fanciful flights of imagination from someone who is too lost in movieland and has forgotten reality. 90% of conspiracy content is just recycled movie plots some con man made a book out of in the 90s, and internet kids just rehash and repost, referring to said con man as a source, without even


bothering to check if HE had a legitimate source.

Like MKULTRA. Ok, we have declassified documents and such proving its existence. From the 60s. From fifty fucking years ago. Do you REALLY think they'd still be using the same technology and methods from half a century ago today? Does that make any sense at all? I would think they would have refined it a bit by now. I also would think a govt program like that would only reveal its existence if there were no threats to doing so, because they'd already moved on to a better way. But no, we're supposed to believe they're still on that monarch trip programming people with goddamn butterflies. Oh, and that every major pop singer today was mind controlled in the same way, and they hide secrets in their videos to let you know! So make damn sure you check out every video they release! Watch em over and over again, dissect them so you dont miss the one eye or fkn Baal reference or some other such horseshit.



If they're doing mind control, it's gonna be on the people watching the videos. And they conned a hell of a lot of people into watching, didn't they?

Credit where credit is due. Want to expand your horizons? This guy will take you there: celticrebel.wordpress.com
 Quoting: LostInForever



Ya, I have typos, but itm a veteran in he conspiracy circuit and trying to enlighten you in my downtime... Don't take it for granted, don't mean to sound pompous..... But for real, practice your rhetoric, until then, don't speak with such falsified convictions. That's Real talk from a from a a veteran New York philanthropist/ philosopher/ conspiracy veteran since the age of 16, I'm now 25. Keep learning..
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I'm older than you and been at it longer too. How about you refute me instead of dismissing me with vague nonsense. I'm open to being wrong.
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This. The so called "Revelation of the Method". If you allow them to do it, even on a subconscious level, you give them your consent.
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Then everyone consents to everything. Where is one credible bit of proof that "they have to tell you beforehand!" That is just utter nonsense.

If I tell you I will kill you, and I do, do you think that absolves me of guilt? Just how ridiculous does that sound? And don't try and tell me "that doesn't matter, THEY believe it." No one can even define who the fk THEY are. Who is they? The illuminati? The elite? Labels that mean nothing.

I'm not attacking you and the other poster, I'm truly not. I used to believe that exact same crap. But that's all it is, crap. Oh, there are elites all right, and they are pulling the strings. But all these bullshit theatrics are just that, fanciful flights of imagination from someone who is too lost in movieland and has forgotten reality. 90% of conspiracy content is just recycled movie plots some con man made a book out of in the 90s, and internet kids just rehash and repost, referring to said con man as a source, without even


bothering to check if HE had a legitimate source.

Like MKULTRA. Ok, we have declassified documents and such proving its existence. From the 60s. From fifty fucking years ago. Do you REALLY think they'd still be using the same technology and methods from half a century ago today? Does that make any sense at all? I would think they would have refined it a bit by now. I also would think a govt program like that would only reveal its existence if there were no threats to doing so, because they'd already moved on to a better way. But no, we're supposed to believe they're still on that monarch trip programming people with goddamn butterflies. Oh, and that every major pop singer today was mind controlled in the same way, and they hide secrets in their videos to let you know! So make damn sure you check out every video they release! Watch em over and over again, dissect them so you dont miss the one eye or fkn Baal reference or some other such horseshit.



If they're doing mind control, it's gonna be on the people watching the videos. And they conned a hell of a lot of people into watching, didn't they?

Credit where credit is due. Want to expand your horizons? This guy will take you there: celticrebel.wordpress.com
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Ya, I have typos, but itm a veteran in he conspiracy circuit and trying to enlighten you in my downtime... Don't take it for granted, don't mean to sound pompous..... But for real, practice your rhetoric, until then, don't speak with such falsified convictions. That's Real talk from a from a a veteran New York philanthropist/ philosopher/ conspiracy veteran since the age of 16, I'm now 25. Keep learning..
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I'm older than you and been at it longer too. How about you refute me instead of dismissing me with vague nonsense. I'm open to being wrong.
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Says the fucking shill with no idea ho or how old I am???you callee yourself out you Austrian faggot. Done
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I don't mean to sound mean, but you sound fucking stupid, it doesn't take much to point out a shilling egotistical faggot.
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Because you have a username you know more,than me, do yourself a favor and research the meaning of the name godlike productions, until u can discuss that, ur an amateurvaustrian. Blow me
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pigchef go bill!
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Christos? I haven't seen either, but from reading the thread, would you throw "The Truman Show" in this mix also?
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I'd say this depends on what you want to call this mix.
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You mean The TRUE MAN show? Why yes, yes I would.
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The Truman Show is one of those movies which leave you kind of uneasy - just as Inception and Shutter Island do. Don't you think so ?
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I don't mean to sound mean, but you sound fucking stupid, it doesn't take much to point out a shilling egotistical faggot.
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It doesn't ?
I think you are disparaging yourself now, aren't you ?
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Shutter Island was about man who wanted to die.
He acts like having an amnesia and new personal identity.
He tricks a system so shrinks would give him lobotomy to turn himself into vegetable. That was his mission and he succeed.

Inception was about man who had convinced himself he was guilty. That guilt made him run away from his kids and familiar world. His father in law helps him to solve that issue by sending him into mental mission during which he also solves the puzzle in his mind (with a help of female psychology student his father in law sends to him)
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pigchef go bill!
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what u can see as a metaphor in Shutter Island is a man
being under control of Nazis and he finally choose death instead of their "cure".

I dont see Shutter Island similar to Deception.

I think as a metaphor Shutter Island is more similar to Apocalypto.

Aggressor takes control over your life and hero has to find a way out.
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oh and cheers to zombiekiller, i was doing a bunch of research on samael/iabdolath today and an hour or so came across your other post. i'm astounded at how much synchronous stuff this board spits at me.
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Yeah, sometimes its uncanny.
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I completely agree, to an extent, but your still Unser-informed. The reason why it's in your face at this point is because the elite "revel" in it. In other words they get off on it being right there in front of your face and you not being able topics upon it. It's part of their morl code so to speak hey believe they are free frm any karmic debt, if they spell it out for you... You've got more learning to do, and I mean that in a positive manner. Take it from someone who's been at it for well over a decade my friend.
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This. The so called "Revelation of the Method". If you allow them to do it, even on a subconscious level, you give them your consent.
 Quoting: theorigionalzombiekiller


Then everyone consents to everything. Where is one credible bit of proof that "they have to tell you beforehand!" That is just utter nonsense.

If I tell you I will kill you, and I do, do you think that absolves me of guilt? Just how ridiculous does that sound? And don't try and tell me "that doesn't matter, THEY believe it." No one can even define who the fk THEY are. Who is they? The illuminati? The elite? Labels that mean nothing.

I'm not attacking you and the other poster, I'm truly not. I used to believe that exact same crap. But that's all it is, crap. Oh, there are elites all right, and they are pulling the strings. But all these bullshit theatrics are just that, fanciful flights of imagination from someone who is too lost in movieland and has forgotten reality. 90% of conspiracy content is just recycled movie plots some con man made a book out of in the 90s, and internet kids just rehash and repost, referring to said con man as a source, without even bothering to check if HE had a legitimate source.

Like MKULTRA. Ok, we have declassified documents and such proving its existence. From the 60s. From fifty fucking years ago. Do you REALLY think they'd still be using the same technology and methods from half a century ago today? Does that make any sense at all? I would think they would have refined it a bit by now. I also would think a govt program like that would only reveal its existence if there were no threats to doing so, because they'd already moved on to a better way. But no, we're supposed to believe they're still on that monarch trip programming people with goddamn butterflies. Oh, and that every major pop singer today was mind controlled in the same way, and they hide secrets in their videos to let you know! So make damn sure you check out every video they release! Watch em over and over again, dissect them so you dont miss the one eye or fkn Baal reference or some other such horseshit.

If they're doing mind control, it's gonna be on the people watching the videos. And they conned a hell of a lot of people into watching, didn't they?

Credit where credit is due. Want to expand your horizons? This guy will take you there: celticrebel.wordpress.com
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Well, first of all, if you tell me repeatedly that you are going to kill me, and then one day you just walk up and kill me, then maybe the argument could be made that the fact I never did anything to avoid that from happening makes me somewhat responsable as well. This is how TPTB look at it. I think. This is just based on hours and hours of research mind you, I could of course be wrong, its not like I've ever met a generational elite at a party and had them explain all their beliefs and methods to me. After what I have learned, I do not think I am wrong though.

As far as defining who "They" are. Read this. [link to cdn.preterhuman.net] It really can't be more comprehensivly covered in one document.

Now as to whether "They" still call their mind control process "MK-ULTRA" I agree with you, they surley do not. MK-ULTRA was just the military's code name for that particular branch of the project, and that spun our of Project Bluebird, and then Project Artichoke. So technically we could all still call it Project Artichoke if we wanted to, but that would sound fucking ridiculous. "MK-ULTRA" however, sounds badass.

Seriously though, its the same as using the terms "Illuminati" or "TPTB" etc. These groups do not use the terms to refer to themselves, I doubt satanist call themselves "satanist", but we have to call them something. These are just commonly accepted and understood labels that the conspiracy theory community has come up with to better be able to communicate with eachother. We would never get anything acclomplished if everytime we tried to talk about these things we had to say "the government sponsered research into understanding and manipulating the human mind" just say "mind control"- or "MK-ULTRA" (gets right to the point if refering to the military research aspect). Its easier, trust me.

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Because you have a username you know more,than me, do yourself a favor and research the meaning of the name godlike productions, until u can discuss that, ur an amateurvaustrian. Blow me
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I'm sure the name of this website is refering to the idea of some kind of "ascension". Godlike, i.e becoming like a god. The woman who started this site went on to run another, where she channels aliens who answer all sorts of questions about, well, pretty much anything they get asked lol.
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Shutter Island was about man who wanted to die.
He acts like having an amnesia and new personal identity.
He tricks a system so shrinks would give him lobotomy to turn himself into vegetable. That was his mission and he succeed.

Inception was about man who had convinced himself he was guilty. That guilt made him run away from his kids and familiar world. His father in law helps him to solve that issue by sending him into mental mission during which he also solves the puzzle in his mind (with a help of female psychology student his father in law sends to him)
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Yep, that describes the surface narrative of both films pretty well. Now, what is the subtext?

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Shutter Island was about man who wanted to die.
He acts like having an amnesia and new personal identity.
He tricks a system so shrinks would give him lobotomy to turn himself into vegetable. That was his mission and he succeed.

Inception was about man who had convinced himself he was guilty. That guilt made him run away from his kids and familiar world. His father in law helps him to solve that issue by sending him into mental mission during which he also solves the puzzle in his mind (with a help of female psychology student his father in law sends to him)
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Really? I thought he simply slipped back into his delusion in the end.
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Shutter Island was about man who wanted to die.
He acts like having an amnesia and new personal identity.
He tricks a system so shrinks would give him lobotomy to turn himself into vegetable. That was his mission and he succeed.

Inception was about man who had convinced himself he was guilty. That guilt made him run away from his kids and familiar world. His father in law helps him to solve that issue by sending him into mental mission during which he also solves the puzzle in his mind (with a help of female psychology student his father in law sends to him)
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Really? I thought he simply slipped back into his delusion in the end.
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The therapy worked by the end, however he pretended it did not in order to get the lobotomy. He wanted to forget. As he said- "live like a monster or die a good man".
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why u need to think that there is anything else beside the story?

lets then analyze also "One flew over cuckoos nest" and what is subtext there.

or what is subtext in A Beautiful Mind?
If you look for such puzzles then first u need to look who directed it.

Scorsese is not a hidden content type.
Nolan is much more that type, but in that case also not.
Director who works directly with subconscious symbols is Lynch.
Director who combined story, hidden meaning and secrets into movie was Kubrick.

so do i understand correctly that u saw a similar subtext in those films - that humans who are dominated by their rational side are missing their intuitive side and thats what drives humanity nuts?
do you really think that scorsese sat down the other day and thought "Oh people are nuts, they are missing their intuition. What if do a movie with a secret meaning that symbolically speaks about it?" Well, it does not work that way.

what i believe more is allegory that reflects nowadays situation, just like Apocalypto is perfect allegory of nowadays world.
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It's all right there guys, the movie IS about MK ultra. If you don't see that, you either don't want to, or don't know enough about the topic. Once again, the movie can be looked at as a Rorschach test of sorts. You see what YOU see, but there is one clear story going on if you can detect it. Really, it's not complicated, just do your research and stop beliving everything you hear on the net. Also, it doesn't matter whether or not it's still called MK ultra, why even argue that? The fact is they are continuing these same types of mind altering experiments on unsuspecting victims...
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And yes, Scorcesse most definitely is a "hidden" type, whatever the hell that means. Many of his movies are multilayered and require you to dig deep and pay attention to see what's really going on i.e. Taxi Driver (hint: Travis Bickle was a dead soul looking back on his life hence the smoke that comes out from behind him in the beginning scene when he comes through the door, on top of many other things) Then there's cape fear... go read some analysis' of his movies... these are Scorcesse's words, not mine, i'm just a film buff.
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why u need to think that there is anything else beside the story?

lets then analyze also "One flew over cuckoos nest" and what is subtext there.

or what is subtext in A Beautiful Mind?
If you look for such puzzles then first u need to look who directed it.

Scorsese is not a hidden content type.
Nolan is much more that type, but in that case also not.
Director who works directly with subconscious symbols is Lynch.
Director who combined story, hidden meaning and secrets into movie was Kubrick.

so do i understand correctly that u saw a similar subtext in those films - that humans who are dominated by their rational side are missing their intuitive side and thats what drives humanity nuts?
do you really think that scorsese sat down the other day and thought "Oh people are nuts, they are missing their intuition. What if do a movie with a secret meaning that symbolically speaks about it?" Well, it does not work that way.

what i believe more is allegory that reflects nowadays situation, just like Apocalypto is perfect allegory of nowadays world.
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No, I think he made a movie that shows the tragic seperation of Christos and Sophia. Its not that complicated. He is an insider. Insiders know this story, their entire occult belief system is based around it. It is the story of the fabric of reality.
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I'd say he's one of the "good" insiders, and haven't seen any proof or reason to suspect otherwise.. All of his movies are intelligent and have positive life lessons.. just like Shutter Island. A truly humble, insightful director. Now Speilberg, I'd sock his ass in the face, Lincoln was the biggest brainwashing peice of propoganda shit i've ever seen.
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Oh nevermind, i see you were talking about Nolan, not Scorecesse, not sure about the Inception thing, guess i'll look more into it.
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from earlier post:

"so do i understand correctly that u saw a similar subtext in those films - that humans who are dominated by their rational side are missing their intuitive side and thats what drives humanity nuts?
do you really think that scorsese sat down the other day and thought "Oh people are nuts, they are missing their intuition. What if do a movie with a secret meaning that symbolically speaks about it?" Well, it does not work that way."

Actually, it is not so far-fetched, considering the ubiquity of the Jungian concept of anima/animus integration in the individual psyche as a primary goal of psychological therapy.
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hey i have not said its not about MK ULTRA which is very clear and in your face layer. also project paperclip.

but...

we were talking about gnostic layers. subconscious layers.
male energy missing his female part.
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Oh nevermind, i see you were talking about Nolan, not Scorecesse, not sure about the Inception thing, guess i'll look more into it.
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No, I meant Scorecesse. Scorcesse comes off more as gnostic to me. Nolan is a fucking TPTB mouthpiece.
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what u think of abel ferrera then?

did u noticed his transformation with Mary?
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hey i have not said its not about MK ULTRA which is very clear and in your face layer. also project paperclip.

but...

we were talking about gnostic layers. subconscious layers.
male energy missing his female part.
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Curious as to what you'd find in Goodfellas.
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Both films beautifully expressed both the "madness" and wonder of the journey to find that which was never lost. The cyclic nature shines, regardless of the individual intent of the filmakers. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is one to add to the mix.

There are 7 billion points of human conciousness on earth defining the indefinable, which is infinite and not bound by time. And each one calls it "reality".

Accomplished and experienced by perceiving borders through whatever linguistics one programmed to think. Never finished and always expanding within linear time.

SHE represents what is outside linear time, measurement, and language. The beauty of indefinable, which movies, music, art, stories, dreams, symbolism, geometry, synchronicity, etc..express as infinite layers to peel back and reveal.

Why wouldn't we mourn the loss of that larger awareness and continously seek her mystery? That pain of re-membering is what drives the desire of re-creation.

This is a wonderful OP which posed a question to break the boxed mind. Several posters have "figured it all out" and "summed it all up". Stephen Hawking stated in 2012, he wanted to "figure out" the mystery of the female mind. Ah the madness, feel the marvel and wonder.

Any one of the "CONclusions" presented (all joyful to observe) be it MK ultra, paperclip, movie-making, etc... are all simutaneously correct and incorrect because it is never done, never summed up, and never figured all out.

By all means follow through, yet don't stop your mind there, keep peeling back the layers. There will always be those who seek to impose boundaries, limits, and boxes. Micro-Macro. Thesis-Antithesis.


Nolan paralelled the fish (pisces) in the opening scene-look for it, and used the spinning top for precession of the equinox.
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Re: "Shutter Island" and "Inception"
Oh nevermind, i see you were talking about Nolan, not Scorecesse, not sure about the Inception thing, guess i'll look more into it.
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No, I meant Scorecesse. Scorcesse comes off more as gnostic to me. Nolan is a fucking TPTB mouthpiece.
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You're interjecting an oPINion...stop. Nolan nor Scorecesse will be "catagorised".

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