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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34998081 Australia 04/05/2013 12:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have seen Shutter Island, but not Inception. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17006327 I can see parallels along the lines you put forth. In keeping with that line, I ask then, how do you fit the other force in the movie that is fully aware of his pain, and exploits it to manipulate the male character? Although now that I really think about it, in Shutter Island what he percieved as sinister forces ended up being people trying to help him "wake up" so to speak. Maybe WE are Leonardo DiCaprio's character, and the doctors etc are Christos/The Source trying to free us? Dude, you've got Shutter Island all wrong. SHutter island was about MK ultra and project paperclip. The doctors weren't trying to help free him, quite teh opposite. Damn son, might want to take another look. ^This! They were trying to brainwash him, control his mind, memories. |
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theorigionalzombiekiller (OP) User ID: 24816411 United States 04/05/2013 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have seen Shutter Island, but not Inception. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17006327 I can see parallels along the lines you put forth. In keeping with that line, I ask then, how do you fit the other force in the movie that is fully aware of his pain, and exploits it to manipulate the male character? Although now that I really think about it, in Shutter Island what he percieved as sinister forces ended up being people trying to help him "wake up" so to speak. Maybe WE are Leonardo DiCaprio's character, and the doctors etc are Christos/The Source trying to free us? Dude, you've got Shutter Island all wrong. SHutter island was about MK ultra and project paperclip. The doctors weren't trying to help free him, quite teh opposite. Damn son, might want to take another look. One thing though, even though MK-Ultra etc. is absolutly a thing, I get the impression it is mostly used as a means to an end. It is a tool for TPTB, one of many, but not the reason they exist, nor does it represent their goals. Sometimes it is too easy to just chalk this stuff up to "Oh, there is the butterfly, so MIND CONTROL" and stop there. This is one reason I don't give VC much credit anymore, because his interpretation usually stops at just that point. There are deep esoteric motivations behind TPTB and what they present to us, and not all of it even represents the same uniform agenda. |
LostInForever User ID: 1588087 04/05/2013 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's clear that the guys delusions in Shutter Island were very real. The ending of the film with their so neatly wrapping it up should make it obvious. It's got a "move along, nothing to see here" kinda vibe. At the same time though, why wouldn't they have just shot him? Last Edited by LostInForever on 04/05/2013 12:20 PM |
LostInForever User ID: 1588087 04/05/2013 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have seen Shutter Island, but not Inception. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17006327 I can see parallels along the lines you put forth. In keeping with that line, I ask then, how do you fit the other force in the movie that is fully aware of his pain, and exploits it to manipulate the male character? Although now that I really think about it, in Shutter Island what he percieved as sinister forces ended up being people trying to help him "wake up" so to speak. Maybe WE are Leonardo DiCaprio's character, and the doctors etc are Christos/The Source trying to free us? Dude, you've got Shutter Island all wrong. SHutter island was about MK ultra and project paperclip. The doctors weren't trying to help free him, quite teh opposite. Damn son, might want to take another look. One thing though, even though MK-Ultra etc. is absolutly a thing, I get the impression it is mostly used as a means to an end. It is a tool for TPTB, one of many, but not the reason they exist, nor does it represent their goals. Sometimes it is too easy to just chalk this stuff up to "Oh, there is the butterfly, so MIND CONTROL" and stop there. This is one reason I don't give VC much credit anymore, because his interpretation usually stops at just that point. There are deep esoteric motivations behind TPTB and what they present to us, and not all of it even represents the same uniform agenda. Dude, I am so with you. If I hear one more thing about fkn butterflies I'm gonna fkn puke. At this point I'm pretty well convinced that the Illuminati is a staged distraction and all that VC shit a ploy to prop up the pop music industry and get people watching music vids again. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16453458 United States 04/05/2013 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should watch Memento again with this understanding. Since you are "seeing", all movies, stories, art will be a revelation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37380816 Oh, yes. Art absolutely can be a revelation... [link to www.corax.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16453458 United States 04/05/2013 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to deoxy.org] Quoting: theorigionalzombiekiller I'm starting to make a connection between the concept of the Aeonic creator twin's(Christos and Sophia) seperation and grief, and the fractured/suffering mind of the male twin, and movies like Shutter Island or Inception. Both have a male character who became somehow seperated from his female counterpart, and has children who have suffered/died because of this. In Shutter Island, he ultimatly chooses not to remember who he really is because the pain is too much to bear, and in Inception he is "cured", but might actually have just fallen into another level of his mind. Are stories such as this retellings of the grand cosmic tragedy we have all been witness to? But is it a cosmic tragedy or cosmic joke? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33223464 United States 04/05/2013 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: theorigionalzombiekiller Although now that I really think about it, in Shutter Island what he percieved as sinister forces ended up being people trying to help him "wake up" so to speak. Maybe WE are Leonardo DiCaprio's character, and the doctors etc are Christos/The Source trying to free us? Dude, you've got Shutter Island all wrong. SHutter island was about MK ultra and project paperclip. The doctors weren't trying to help free him, quite teh opposite. Damn son, might want to take another look. One thing though, even though MK-Ultra etc. is absolutly a thing, I get the impression it is mostly used as a means to an end. It is a tool for TPTB, one of many, but not the reason they exist, nor does it represent their goals. Sometimes it is too easy to just chalk this stuff up to "Oh, there is the butterfly, so MIND CONTROL" and stop there. This is one reason I don't give VC much credit anymore, because his interpretation usually stops at just that point. There are deep esoteric motivations behind TPTB and what they present to us, and not all of it even represents the same uniform agenda. Dude, I am so with you. If I hear one more thing about fkn butterflies I'm gonna fkn puke. At this point I'm pretty well convinced that the Illuminati is a staged distraction and all that VC shit a ploy to prop up the pop music industry and get people watching music vids again. And you sir are an idiot, either an idiot or extremely misinformed/ naive... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33223464 United States 04/05/2013 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have seen Shutter Island, but not Inception. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17006327 I can see parallels along the lines you put forth. In keeping with that line, I ask then, how do you fit the other force in the movie that is fully aware of his pain, and exploits it to manipulate the male character? Although now that I really think about it, in Shutter Island what he percieved as sinister forces ended up being people trying to help him "wake up" so to speak. Maybe WE are Leonardo DiCaprio's character, and the doctors etc are Christos/The Source trying to free us? Dude, you've got Shutter Island all wrong. SHutter island was about MK ultra and project paperclip. The doctors weren't trying to help free him, quite teh opposite. Damn son, might want to take another look. One thing though, even though MK-Ultra etc. is absolutly a thing, I get the impression it is mostly used as a means to an end. It is a tool for TPTB, one of many, but not the reason they exist, nor does it represent their goals. Sometimes it is too easy to just chalk this stuff up to "Oh, there is the butterfly, so MIND CONTROL" and stop there. This is one reason I don't give VC much credit anymore, because his interpretation usually stops at just that point. There are deep esoteric motivations behind TPTB and what they present to us, and not all of it even represents the same uniform agenda. And to retort, no it's not that easy, hence why you, yourself had the interpretation wrong until it was explained to you and light was shed on the truth of story. Most watch this and think the main character wd insane.... But if you watch with eyes to see and ears to hear.. It's clearly the opposite. |
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theorigionalzombiekiller (OP) User ID: 15965235 United States 04/05/2013 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The last thing ill mention, as a connoisseur of film, this is a very multilayered movie and requires your utmost attention to understand the reality of what is happening on screen, an ink blot text on film, you see what you see and perceive.. It's a masterpiece Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33223464 So what was the subtext of his interaction(or lack of, his overcomitment to his work lead to her mental illness escalating) with his wife and the resulting death of the children? And him shooting her? What did that specifically have to do with MK-Ultra? Last Edited by theorigionalzombiekiller on 04/05/2013 09:05 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35731453 Belgium 04/05/2013 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's clear that the guys delusions in Shutter Island were very real. The ending of the film with their so neatly wrapping it up should make it obvious. It's got a "move along, nothing to see here" kinda vibe. Quoting: LostInForever At the same time though, why wouldn't they have just shot him? Because it was an experiment in mind control ? You don't want to shoot your lab rat, you know. |
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LostInForever User ID: 1599795 04/05/2013 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5940759 Dude, you've got Shutter Island all wrong. SHutter island was about MK ultra and project paperclip. The doctors weren't trying to help free him, quite teh opposite. Damn son, might want to take another look. One thing though, even though MK-Ultra etc. is absolutly a thing, I get the impression it is mostly used as a means to an end. It is a tool for TPTB, one of many, but not the reason they exist, nor does it represent their goals. Sometimes it is too easy to just chalk this stuff up to "Oh, there is the butterfly, so MIND CONTROL" and stop there. This is one reason I don't give VC much credit anymore, because his interpretation usually stops at just that point. There are deep esoteric motivations behind TPTB and what they present to us, and not all of it even represents the same uniform agenda. Dude, I am so with you. If I hear one more thing about fkn butterflies I'm gonna fkn puke. At this point I'm pretty well convinced that the Illuminati is a staged distraction and all that VC shit a ploy to prop up the pop music industry and get people watching music vids again. And you sir are an idiot, either an idiot or extremely misinformed/ naive... No, I'm really not. I've been into this shit for quite a while now, there's pretty much not a single theory I haven't heard of or given a chance. If anything I'm OVER informed. You think this shit going mainstream is a coincidence? You're being played, running around chasing Illuminati boogeymen and looking for fkn butterflies and shit. Thinking you've got it all figured out. The only true knowledge consists in knowing that you know nothing. |
Matt C User ID: 12216826 United States 04/05/2013 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should watch Memento again with this understanding. Since you are "seeing", all movies, stories, art will be a revelation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37380816 Agreed, Memento is a good one to watch with this perspective. However, I think there are many more. Almost as if movies etc.. are the current medium for modern day prophets. |