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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32938997 United States 04/05/2013 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have seen Shutter Island, but not Inception. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17006327 I can see parallels along the lines you put forth. In keeping with that line, I ask then, how do you fit the other force in the movie that is fully aware of his pain, and exploits it to manipulate the male character? Although now that I really think about it, in Shutter Island what he percieved as sinister forces ended up being people trying to help him "wake up" so to speak. Maybe WE are Leonardo DiCaprio's character, and the doctors etc are Christos/The Source trying to free us? That's great! I think every breath we take is a step in that direction. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1595910 United States 04/05/2013 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | havn't seen shutter island, but i'm fairly sure inception is just a movie about making movies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1595910 Apparently you didn't watch Inception either, or you must have slept through the movie just as the hero did. dude seriously, that movie is about making movies. i was entranced when i saw it and rushed to read other people's take's on the movie.. and the one thing i came to more and more that made the most sense is that it's nolan's metaphor for making movies. leo is the director and has a vision, that chick is the set designer, there's a writer and the tech guy stringing the wires. it's just got a coat of pseudo-occult paint tossed on top ala lost. google "inception is about making movies" there are a ton of write ups that sum it up better than i am |
theorigionalzombiekiller (OP) User ID: 15965235 United States 04/05/2013 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: theorigionalzombiekiller One thing though, even though MK-Ultra etc. is absolutly a thing, I get the impression it is mostly used as a means to an end. It is a tool for TPTB, one of many, but not the reason they exist, nor does it represent their goals. Sometimes it is too easy to just chalk this stuff up to "Oh, there is the butterfly, so MIND CONTROL" and stop there. This is one reason I don't give VC much credit anymore, because his interpretation usually stops at just that point. There are deep esoteric motivations behind TPTB and what they present to us, and not all of it even represents the same uniform agenda. Dude, I am so with you. If I hear one more thing about fkn butterflies I'm gonna fkn puke. At this point I'm pretty well convinced that the Illuminati is a staged distraction and all that VC shit a ploy to prop up the pop music industry and get people watching music vids again. And you sir are an idiot, either an idiot or extremely misinformed/ naive... No, I'm really not. I've been into this shit for quite a while now, there's pretty much not a single theory I haven't heard of or given a chance. If anything I'm OVER informed. You think this shit going mainstream is a coincidence? You're being played, running around chasing Illuminati boogeymen and looking for fkn butterflies and shit. Thinking you've got it all figured out. The only true knowledge consists in knowing that you know nothing. Yeah, I think the mind control stuff has always been there and is coming out more so now just the same as everything else about these people is coming to light. I think they are easing us in to accepting this stuff, its been their way of life for generations and they would prefer not having to hide it. I don't think that very many of the movies/music videos are "just" about mind control. MK-Ultra, or whatever you want to call it, is just a method they employ, I honestly get the sense they are proud of it, as in they feel it allows them to unlock hidden potential. Last Edited by theorigionalzombiekiller on 04/05/2013 09:48 PM |
theorigionalzombiekiller (OP) User ID: 15965235 United States 04/05/2013 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | havn't seen shutter island, but i'm fairly sure inception is just a movie about making movies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1595910 Apparently you didn't watch Inception either, or you must have slept through the movie just as the hero did. dude seriously, that movie is about making movies. i was entranced when i saw it and rushed to read other people's take's on the movie.. and the one thing i came to more and more that made the most sense is that it's nolan's metaphor for making movies. leo is the director and has a vision, that chick is the set designer, there's a writer and the tech guy stringing the wires. it's just got a coat of pseudo-occult paint tossed on top ala lost. google "inception is about making movies" there are a ton of write ups that sum it up better than i am Lol, its about creating and maintaining reality. Reality is a "movie" you are being tricked in to participating in. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1595910 United States 04/05/2013 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | havn't seen shutter island, but i'm fairly sure inception is just a movie about making movies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1595910 Apparently you didn't watch Inception either, or you must have slept through the movie just as the hero did. dude seriously, that movie is about making movies. i was entranced when i saw it and rushed to read other people's take's on the movie.. and the one thing i came to more and more that made the most sense is that it's nolan's metaphor for making movies. leo is the director and has a vision, that chick is the set designer, there's a writer and the tech guy stringing the wires. it's just got a coat of pseudo-occult paint tossed on top ala lost. google "inception is about making movies" there are a ton of write ups that sum it up better than i am Lol, its about creating and maintaining reality. Reality is a "movie" you are being tricked in to participating in. well, yeah. but seriously, read this guy's write up at chud [link to www.chud.com] it let the air out of that movie for me. not saying there isn't any deeper symbolism or anything, but this guy's idea seems fairly dead on |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33223464 United States 04/05/2013 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I completely agree, to an extent, but your still Unser-informed. The reason why it's in your face at this point is because the elite "revel" in it. In other words they get off on it being right there in front of your face and you not being able topics upon it. It's part of their morl code so to speak hey believe they are free frm any karmic debt, if they spell it out for you... You've got more learning to do, and I mean that in a positive manner. Take it from someone who's been at it for well over a decade my friend. |
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theorigionalzombiekiller (OP) User ID: 15965235 United States 04/05/2013 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I completely agree, to an extent, but your still Unser-informed. The reason why it's in your face at this point is because the elite "revel" in it. In other words they get off on it being right there in front of your face and you not being able topics upon it. It's part of their morl code so to speak hey believe they are free frm any karmic debt, if they spell it out for you... You've got more learning to do, and I mean that in a positive manner. Take it from someone who's been at it for well over a decade my friend. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33223464 This. The so called "Revelation of the Method". If you allow them to do it, even on a subconscious level, you give them your consent. Last Edited by theorigionalzombiekiller on 04/05/2013 10:02 PM |
theorigionalzombiekiller (OP) User ID: 15965235 United States 04/05/2013 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I completely agree, to an extent, but your still Unser-informed. The reason why it's in your face at this point is because the elite "revel" in it. In other words they get off on it being right there in front of your face and you not being able topics upon it. It's part of their morl code so to speak hey believe they are free frm any karmic debt, if they spell it out for you... You've got more learning to do, and I mean that in a positive manner. Take it from someone who's been at it for well over a decade my friend. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33223464 This. The so called "revelation of the method". If you allow them to do it, even on a subconscious level, you give them your consent. "Making Manifest All that is Hidden". Last Edited by theorigionalzombiekiller on 04/05/2013 10:02 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33223464 United States 04/05/2013 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | havn't seen shutter island, but i'm fairly sure inception is just a movie about making movies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1595910 Apparently you didn't watch Inception either, or you must have slept through the movie just as the hero did. dude seriously, that movie is about making movies. i was entranced when i saw it and rushed to read other people's take's on the movie.. and the one thing i came to more and more that made the most sense is that it's nolan's metaphor for making movies. leo is the director and has a vision, that chick is the set designer, there's a writer and the tech guy stringing the wires. it's just got a coat of pseudo-occult paint tossed on top ala lost. google "inception is about making movies" there are a ton of write ups that sum it up better than i am Lol, its about creating and maintaining reality. Reality is a "movie" you are being tricked in to participating in. Correct, just as you were tricked into accepting your previous notion of the plot, it's clearly about project paper clip, anyone who says otherwise is plain wrong. Actually watch the movie, then report back... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1595910 United States 04/05/2013 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35731453 Apparently you didn't watch Inception either, or you must have slept through the movie just as the hero did. dude seriously, that movie is about making movies. i was entranced when i saw it and rushed to read other people's take's on the movie.. and the one thing i came to more and more that made the most sense is that it's nolan's metaphor for making movies. leo is the director and has a vision, that chick is the set designer, there's a writer and the tech guy stringing the wires. it's just got a coat of pseudo-occult paint tossed on top ala lost. google "inception is about making movies" there are a ton of write ups that sum it up better than i am Lol, its about creating and maintaining reality. Reality is a "movie" you are being tricked in to participating in. Correct, just as you were tricked into accepting your previous notion of the plot, it's clearly about project paper clip, anyone who says otherwise is plain wrong. Actually watch the movie, then report back... inception is about paperclip? correct me if i'm wrong, isn't that where "we" brought all the nazi scientists over here and gave them jobs and new names an junk? because i missed that by a mile, i had a lot of wild ideas about what it might have been about, but that never crossed my mind at all. or are you talking about shutter island? i'm about to go watch it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33223464 United States 04/05/2013 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't want to sound like an ashole at this point, but you've got it all wrong.. There is no argument here. It is 100% about my ultra after ww2. Else arch the director. Yes, some films are meant to decieve, this one is meant to enlighten, but only if you are studious, vigilant and diligent. End of discussion. |
theorigionalzombiekiller (OP) User ID: 15965235 United States 04/05/2013 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1595910 dude seriously, that movie is about making movies. i was entranced when i saw it and rushed to read other people's take's on the movie.. and the one thing i came to more and more that made the most sense is that it's nolan's metaphor for making movies. leo is the director and has a vision, that chick is the set designer, there's a writer and the tech guy stringing the wires. it's just got a coat of pseudo-occult paint tossed on top ala lost. google "inception is about making movies" there are a ton of write ups that sum it up better than i am Lol, its about creating and maintaining reality. Reality is a "movie" you are being tricked in to participating in. Correct, just as you were tricked into accepting your previous notion of the plot, it's clearly about project paper clip, anyone who says otherwise is plain wrong. Actually watch the movie, then report back... inception is about paperclip? correct me if i'm wrong, isn't that where "we" brought all the nazi scientists over here and gave them jobs and new names an junk? because i missed that by a mile, i had a lot of wild ideas about what it might have been about, but that never crossed my mind at all. or are you talking about shutter island? i'm about to go watch it. Neither film is completly "about" Paperclip, he is just trying to simplify it. |
theorigionalzombiekiller (OP) User ID: 15965235 United States 04/05/2013 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: theorigionalzombiekiller Lol, its about creating and maintaining reality. Reality is a "movie" you are being tricked in to participating in. Correct, just as you were tricked into accepting your previous notion of the plot, it's clearly about project paper clip, anyone who says otherwise is plain wrong. Actually watch the movie, then report back... inception is about paperclip? correct me if i'm wrong, isn't that where "we" brought all the nazi scientists over here and gave them jobs and new names an junk? because i missed that by a mile, i had a lot of wild ideas about what it might have been about, but that never crossed my mind at all. or are you talking about shutter island? i'm about to go watch it. Neither film is completly "about" Paperclip, he is just trying to simplify it. And Inception has nothing to do with Paperclip. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1595910 United States 04/05/2013 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: theorigionalzombiekiller Lol, its about creating and maintaining reality. Reality is a "movie" you are being tricked in to participating in. Correct, just as you were tricked into accepting your previous notion of the plot, it's clearly about project paper clip, anyone who says otherwise is plain wrong. Actually watch the movie, then report back... inception is about paperclip? correct me if i'm wrong, isn't that where "we" brought all the nazi scientists over here and gave them jobs and new names an junk? because i missed that by a mile, i had a lot of wild ideas about what it might have been about, but that never crossed my mind at all. or are you talking about shutter island? i'm about to go watch it. Neither film is completly "about" Paperclip, he is just trying to simplify it. right right. but still i saw none of that in inception. to boil it down, his wife, or ex wife, whatever, is his "muse" and without her he loses his "perfect vision" of the "film" he is trying to make (ie, a family, his kids that never age). the kid from 3rd rock is the audience that gets taken for a ride for 2 hours and enveloped in the creation, the guy financing it is the producer, etc. dicaprio even compared the movie to 8 1/2, an autobiographical movie of Fellini's. again i'm not saying you guys are wrong, i just fail to see the connection |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33223464 United States 04/05/2013 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last post to op: before stating neither is about part clip, actually look up the history, I repeat, there is no question... It is... Not inception... But certainly shutter island. I do find the similarity you mentioned in terms of the character dynamics of both films interesting as well though... But once again, the meaning of shutter island is clear as day to an informed mind on the particular topic,. I'm sure there's other threads on glp breaking it down even more so, look it up, then continue your discourse. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33223464 United States 04/05/2013 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Correct.... Likei said, the interpretation is up to you, but the artist points you towards ONE clear answer if you stay keen on the details.... |
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LostInForever User ID: 1599795 04/05/2013 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I completely agree, to an extent, but your still Unser-informed. The reason why it's in your face at this point is because the elite "revel" in it. In other words they get off on it being right there in front of your face and you not being able topics upon it. It's part of their morl code so to speak hey believe they are free frm any karmic debt, if they spell it out for you... You've got more learning to do, and I mean that in a positive manner. Take it from someone who's been at it for well over a decade my friend. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33223464 This. The so called "Revelation of the Method". If you allow them to do it, even on a subconscious level, you give them your consent. Then everyone consents to everything. Where is one credible bit of proof that "they have to tell you beforehand!" That is just utter nonsense. If I tell you I will kill you, and I do, do you think that absolves me of guilt? Just how ridiculous does that sound? And don't try and tell me "that doesn't matter, THEY believe it." No one can even define who the fk THEY are. Who is they? The illuminati? The elite? Labels that mean nothing. I'm not attacking you and the other poster, I'm truly not. I used to believe that exact same crap. But that's all it is, crap. Oh, there are elites all right, and they are pulling the strings. But all these bullshit theatrics are just that, fanciful flights of imagination from someone who is too lost in movieland and has forgotten reality. 90% of conspiracy content is just recycled movie plots some con man made a book out of in the 90s, and internet kids just rehash and repost, referring to said con man as a source, without even bothering to check if HE had a legitimate source. Like MKULTRA. Ok, we have declassified documents and such proving its existence. From the 60s. From fifty fucking years ago. Do you REALLY think they'd still be using the same technology and methods from half a century ago today? Does that make any sense at all? I would think they would have refined it a bit by now. I also would think a govt program like that would only reveal its existence if there were no threats to doing so, because they'd already moved on to a better way. But no, we're supposed to believe they're still on that monarch trip programming people with goddamn butterflies. Oh, and that every major pop singer today was mind controlled in the same way, and they hide secrets in their videos to let you know! So make damn sure you check out every video they release! Watch em over and over again, dissect them so you dont miss the one eye or fkn Baal reference or some other such horseshit. If they're doing mind control, it's gonna be on the people watching the videos. And they conned a hell of a lot of people into watching, didn't they? Credit where credit is due. Want to expand your horizons? This guy will take you there: celticrebel.wordpress.com |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33223464 United States 04/05/2013 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I completely agree, to an extent, but your still Unser-informed. The reason why it's in your face at this point is because the elite "revel" in it. In other words they get off on it being right there in front of your face and you not being able topics upon it. It's part of their morl code so to speak hey believe they are free frm any karmic debt, if they spell it out for you... You've got more learning to do, and I mean that in a positive manner. Take it from someone who's been at it for well over a decade my friend. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33223464 This. The so called "Revelation of the Method". If you allow them to do it, even on a subconscious level, you give them your consent. Then everyone consents to everything. Where is one credible bit of proof that "they have to tell you beforehand!" That is just utter nonsense. If I tell you I will kill you, and I do, do you think that absolves me of guilt? Just how ridiculous does that sound? And don't try and tell me "that doesn't matter, THEY believe it." No one can even define who the fk THEY are. Who is they? The illuminati? The elite? Labels that mean nothing. I'm not attacking you and the other poster, I'm truly not. I used to believe that exact same crap. But that's all it is, crap. Oh, there are elites all right, and they are pulling the strings. But all these bullshit theatrics are just that, fanciful flights of imagination from someone who is too lost in movieland and has forgotten reality. 90% of conspiracy content is just recycled movie plots some con man made a book out of in the 90s, and internet kids just rehash and repost, referring to said con man as a source, without even bothering to check if HE had a legitimate source. Like MKULTRA. Ok, we have declassified documents and such proving its existence. From the 60s. From fifty fucking years ago. Do you REALLY think they'd still be using the same technology and methods from half a century ago today? Does that make any sense at all? I would think they would have refined it a bit by now. I also would think a govt program like that would only reveal its existence if there were no threats to doing so, because they'd already moved on to a better way. But no, we're supposed to believe they're still on that monarch trip programming people with goddamn butterflies. Oh, and that every major pop singer today was mind controlled in the same way, and they hide secrets in their videos to let you know! So make damn sure you check out every video they release! Watch em over and over again, dissect them so you dont miss the one eye or fkn Baal reference or some other such horseshit. If they're doing mind control, it's gonna be on the people watching the videos. And they conned a hell of a lot of people into watching, didn't they? Credit where credit is due. Want to expand your horizons? This guy will take you there: celticrebel.wordpress.com I completely agree, to an extent, but your still Unser-informed. The reason why it's in your face at this point is because the elite "revel" in it. In other words they get off on it being right there in front of your face and you not being able topics upon it. It's part of their morl code so to speak hey believe they are free frm any karmic debt, if they spell it out for you... You've got more learning to do, and I mean that in a positive manner. Take it from someone who's been at it for well over a decade my friend. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33223464 This. The so called "Revelation of the Method". If you allow them to do it, even on a subconscious level, you give them your consent. Then everyone consents to everything. Where is one credible bit of proof that "they have to tell you beforehand!" That is just utter nonsense. If I tell you I will kill you, and I do, do you think that absolves me of guilt? Just how ridiculous does that sound? And don't try and tell me "that doesn't matter, THEY believe it." No one can even define who the fk THEY are. Who is they? The illuminati? The elite? Labels that mean nothing. I'm not attacking you and the other poster, I'm truly not. I used to believe that exact same crap. But that's all it is, crap. Oh, there are elites all right, and they are pulling the strings. But all these bullshit theatrics are just that, fanciful flights of imagination from someone who is too lost in movieland and has forgotten reality. 90% of conspiracy content is just recycled movie plots some con man made a book out of in the 90s, and internet kids just rehash and repost, referring to said con man as a source, without even bothering to check if HE had a legitimate source. Like MKULTRA. Ok, we have declassified documents and such proving its existence. From the 60s. From fifty fucking years ago. Do you REALLY think they'd still be using the same technology and methods from half a century ago today? Does that make any sense at all? I would think they would have refined it a bit by now. I also would think a govt program like that would only reveal its existence if there were no threats to doing so, because they'd already moved on to a better way. But no, we're supposed to believe they're still on that monarch trip programming people with goddamn butterflies. Oh, and that every major pop singer today was mind controlled in the same way, and they hide secrets in their videos to let you know! So make damn sure you check out every video they release! Watch em over and over again, dissect them so you dont miss the one eye or fkn Baal reference or some other such horseshit. If they're doing mind control, it's gonna be on the people watching the videos. And they conned a hell of a lot of people into watching, didn't they? Credit where credit is due. Want to expand your horizons? This guy will take you there: celticrebel.wordpress.com You clearly don't know shit,honestly, it's painfully obvious.. You got,ore studying to do, the sounds of a eminent, god bless you. Though |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33223464 United States 04/05/2013 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I completely agree, to an extent, but your still Unser-informed. The reason why it's in your face at this point is because the elite "revel" in it. In other words they get off on it being right there in front of your face and you not being able topics upon it. It's part of their morl code so to speak hey believe they are free frm any karmic debt, if they spell it out for you... You've got more learning to do, and I mean that in a positive manner. Take it from someone who's been at it for well over a decade my friend. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33223464 This. The so called "Revelation of the Method". If you allow them to do it, even on a subconscious level, you give them your consent. Then everyone consents to everything. Where is one credible bit of proof that "they have to tell you beforehand!" That is just utter nonsense. If I tell you I will kill you, and I do, do you think that absolves me of guilt? Just how ridiculous does that sound? And don't try and tell me "that doesn't matter, THEY believe it." No one can even define who the fk THEY are. Who is they? The illuminati? The elite? Labels that mean nothing. I'm not attacking you and the other poster, I'm truly not. I used to believe that exact same crap. But that's all it is, crap. Oh, there are elites all right, and they are pulling the strings. But all these bullshit theatrics are just that, fanciful flights of imagination from someone who is too lost in movieland and has forgotten reality. 90% of conspiracy content is just recycled movie plots some con man made a book out of in the 90s, and internet kids just rehash and repost, referring to said con man as a source, without even bothering to check if HE had a legitimate source. Like MKULTRA. Ok, we have declassified documents and such proving its existence. From the 60s. From fifty fucking years ago. Do you REALLY think they'd still be using the same technology and methods from half a century ago today? Does that make any sense at all? I would think they would have refined it a bit by now. I also would think a govt program like that would only reveal its existence if there were no threats to doing so, because they'd already moved on to a better way. But no, we're supposed to believe they're still on that monarch trip programming people with goddamn butterflies. Oh, and that every major pop singer today was mind controlled in the same way, and they hide secrets in their videos to let you know! So make damn sure you check out every video they release! Watch em over and over again, dissect them so you dont miss the one eye or fkn Baal reference or some other such horseshit. If they're doing mind control, it's gonna be on the people watching the videos. And they conned a hell of a lot of people into watching, didn't they? Credit where credit is due. Want to expand your horizons? This guy will take you there: celticrebel.wordpress.com Ya, I have typos, but itm a veteran in he conspiracy circuit and trying to enlighten you in my downtime... Don't take it for granted, don't mean to sound pompous..... But for real, practice your rhetoric, until then, don't speak with such falsified convictions. That's Real talk from a from a a veteran New York philanthropist/ philosopher/ conspiracy veteran since the age of 16, I'm now 25. Keep learning.. |