"Shutter Island" and "Inception"

Then everyone consents to everything. Where is one credible bit of proof that "they have to tell you beforehand!" That is just utter nonsense.

If I tell you I will kill you, and I do, do you think that absolves me of guilt? Just how ridiculous does that sound? And don't try and tell me "that doesn't matter, THEY believe it." No one can even define who the fk THEY are. Who is they? The illuminati? The elite? Labels that mean nothing.

I'm not attacking you and the other poster, I'm truly not. I used to believe that exact same crap. But that's all it is, crap. Oh, there are elites all right, and they are pulling the strings. But all these bullshit theatrics are just that, fanciful flights of imagination from someone who is too lost in movieland and has forgotten reality. 90% of conspiracy content is just recycled movie plots some con man made a book out of in the 90s, and internet kids just rehash and repost, referring to said con man as a source, without even bothering to check if HE had a legitimate source.

Like MKULTRA. Ok, we have declassified documents and such proving its existence. From the 60s. From fifty fucking years ago. Do you REALLY think they'd still be using the same technology and methods from half a century ago today? Does that make any sense at all? I would think they would have refined it a bit by now. I also would think a govt program like that would only reveal its existence if there were no threats to doing so, because they'd already moved on to a better way. But no, we're supposed to believe they're still on that monarch trip programming people with goddamn butterflies. Oh, and that every major pop singer today was mind controlled in the same way, and they hide secrets in their videos to let you know! So make damn sure you check out every video they release! Watch em over and over again, dissect them so you dont miss the one eye or fkn Baal reference or some other such horseshit.

If they're doing mind control, it's gonna be on the people watching the videos. And they conned a hell of a lot of people into watching, didn't they?

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You mean The TRUE MAN show? Why yes, yes I would.

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oh and cheers to zombiekiller, i was doing a bunch of research on samael/iabdolath today and an hour or so came across your other post. i'm astounded at how much synchronous stuff this board spits at me.

Then everyone consents to everything. Where is one credible bit of proof that "they have to tell you beforehand!" That is just utter nonsense.

If I tell you I will kill you, and I do, do you think that absolves me of guilt? Just how ridiculous does that sound? And don't try and tell me "that doesn't matter, THEY believe it." No one can even define who the fk THEY are. Who is they? The illuminati? The elite? Labels that mean nothing.

I'm not attacking you and the other poster, I'm truly not. I used to believe that exact same crap. But that's all it is, crap. Oh, there are elites all right, and they are pulling the strings. But all these bullshit theatrics are just that, fanciful flights of imagination from someone who is too lost in movieland and has forgotten reality. 90% of conspiracy content is just recycled movie plots some con man made a book out of in the 90s, and internet kids just rehash and repost, referring to said con man as a source, without even bothering to check if HE had a legitimate source.

Like MKULTRA. Ok, we have declassified documents and such proving its existence. From the 60s. From fifty fucking years ago. Do you REALLY think they'd still be using the same technology and methods from half a century ago today? Does that make any sense at all? I would think they would have refined it a bit by now. I also would think a govt program like that would only reveal its existence if there were no threats to doing so, because they'd already moved on to a better way. But no, we're supposed to believe they're still on that monarch trip programming people with goddamn butterflies. Oh, and that every major pop singer today was mind controlled in the same way, and they hide secrets in their videos to let you know! So make damn sure you check out every video they release! Watch em over and over again, dissect them so you dont miss the one eye or fkn Baal reference or some other such horseshit.

If they're doing mind control, it's gonna be on the people watching the videos. And they conned a hell of a lot of people into watching, didn't they?

Credit where credit is due. Want to expand your horizons? This guy will take you there: celticrebel.wordpress.com

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Shutter Island was about man who wanted to die.
He acts like having an amnesia and new personal identity.
He tricks a system so shrinks would give him lobotomy to turn himself into vegetable. That was his mission and he succeed.

Inception was about man who had convinced himself he was guilty. That guilt made him run away from his kids and familiar world. His father in law helps him to solve that issue by sending him into mental mission during which he also solves the puzzle in his mind (with a help of female psychology student his father in law sends to him)

Shutter Island was about man who wanted to die.
He acts like having an amnesia and new personal identity.
He tricks a system so shrinks would give him lobotomy to turn himself into vegetable. That was his mission and he succeed.

Inception was about man who had convinced himself he was guilty. That guilt made him run away from his kids and familiar world. His father in law helps him to solve that issue by sending him into mental mission during which he also solves the puzzle in his mind (with a help of female psychology student his father in law sends to him)

Really? I thought he simply slipped back into his delusion in the end.

why u need to think that there is anything else beside the story?

lets then analyze also "One flew over cuckoos nest" and what is subtext there.

or what is subtext in A Beautiful Mind?
If you look for such puzzles then first u need to look who directed it.

Scorsese is not a hidden content type.
Nolan is much more that type, but in that case also not.
Director who works directly with subconscious symbols is Lynch.
Director who combined story, hidden meaning and secrets into movie was Kubrick.

so do i understand correctly that u saw a similar subtext in those films - that humans who are dominated by their rational side are missing their intuitive side and thats what drives humanity nuts?
do you really think that scorsese sat down the other day and thought "Oh people are nuts, they are missing their intuition. What if do a movie with a secret meaning that symbolically speaks about it?" Well, it does not work that way.

what i believe more is allegory that reflects nowadays situation, just like Apocalypto is perfect allegory of nowadays world.

Oh nevermind, i see you were talking about Nolan, not Scorecesse, not sure about the Inception thing, guess i'll look more into it.

hey i have not said its not about MK ULTRA which is very clear and in your face layer. also project paperclip.

but...

we were talking about gnostic layers. subconscious layers.
male energy missing his female part.

No, I meant Scorecesse. Scorcesse comes off more as gnostic to me. Nolan is a fucking TPTB mouthpiece.

You're interjecting an oPINion...stop. Nolan nor Scorecesse will be "catagorised".

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I'm starting to make a connection between the concept of the Aeonic creator twin's(Christos and Sophia) seperation and grief, and the fractured/suffering mind of the male twin, and movies like Shutter Island or Inception.

Both have a male character who became somehow seperated from his female counterpart, and has children who have suffered/died because of this. In Shutter Island, he ultimatly chooses not to remember who he really is because the pain is too much to bear, and in Inception he is "cured", but might actually have just fallen into another level of his mind.

Are stories such as this retellings of the grand cosmic tragedy we have all been witness to?

dude seriously, that movie is about making movies. i was entranced when i saw it and rushed to read other people's take's on the movie.. and the one thing i came to more and more that made the most sense is that it's nolan's metaphor for making movies. leo is the director and has a vision, that chick is the set designer, there's a writer and the tech guy stringing the wires. it's just got a coat of pseudo-occult paint tossed on top ala lost. google "inception is about making movies" there are a ton of write ups that sum it up better than i am