Three Experts Explain Why North Korea Keeps Ratcheting Tensions | |
GeordieLegend User ID: 4912635 Netherlands 04/05/2013 01:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surely it's not that hard to strap some nuclear waste shit to a rocket and point it in the general direction of America? ...Jeez - it's not rocket science... Or is it..? Propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach... |
theskaven User ID: 37471010 Colombia 04/05/2013 01:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is all being orchestrated by China. Today Japan is collapsing, coincidence? Japan will have no choice but to dump treasuries to make up for the loss and then China will join, declaring their currency the reserve and flooding the US back with their dollars. Then the Norks launch. We are looking at check mate folks. The Chinese outsmarted us. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 30311833 United States 04/05/2013 01:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is all being orchestrated by China. Today Japan is collapsing, coincidence? Japan will have no choice but to dump treasuries to make up for the loss and then China will join, declaring their currency the reserve and flooding the US back with their dollars. Then the Norks launch. Quoting: theskaven 37471010 We are looking at check mate folks. The Chinese outsmarted us. idk, they seem to be ignoring fuku (for the most part) they might hang with it long enough to make that checkmate tough to do (or they will get whothefuckcareswe'refuckedanyway attitude and make it really tough going... those guys are some worthy fighters.) Remember, pretty much, that is how nukes got started... stopping them. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 30311833 United States 04/05/2013 01:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way the US handles the situation is just right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36545374 For me it’s like a 3 year old stands in front of you with a pocket knife. Do you get the 9mm Beretta out? No, you spank his butt.. lolol good point. Let the spanking commence. (that ain't going to happen either though) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 30311833 United States 04/05/2013 01:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way the US handles the situation is just right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36545374 For me it’s like a 3 year old stands in front of you with a pocket knife. Do you get the 9mm Beretta out? No, you spank his butt.. P.S. don't forget those 3 year olds were holding a 9mm Berretta... shouldn't we at least be taking it away? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32611169 Australia 04/05/2013 02:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way the US handles the situation is just right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36545374 For me it’s like a 3 year old stands in front of you with a pocket knife. Do you get the 9mm Beretta out? No, you spank his butt.. What if it's a loaded crossbow instead of a pocket knife, and the little bugger's mumbling "kill kill kill" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16725307 United States 04/05/2013 02:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.nknews.org] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30311833 4. What, if anything, do you find peculiar / unprecedented about the current torrent of North Korean ‘abuse’? "Unlike during the previous 60 years of confrontation, this time North Korea evidently has some nuclear deterrence that prompts its leadership to be particularly bold and impudent. Unlike during the previous 60 years of confrontation, this time North Korea evidently has some nuclear deterrence that prompts its leadership to be particularly bold and impudent. Nobody can do anything with a nuclear North Korea and its regime any more. The chain of mistakes made by George W. Bush was exacerbated by the inaction of Barack Obama. As a result, in 2013 North Korea has just changed the world order by rending the nuclear non-proliferation regime defunct and opening the era of nuclear permissiveness." Dr. Leonid Petrov So what about bill Clinton and Madeline Albright. They gave nk the nuke tech. My fellow countrymen are brain dead cowards. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36545374 United Kingdom 04/05/2013 02:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it is so easy to use ICBM’s, Why does America still use B52’s that are 50 + years by now? Why spend so much money on B-2’s? There is a limit on the payload you can put onto a Rocket. Remember all the hype about the Scud missiles in the beginning of the Iraq war? How much influence did they have on the outcome of the war? Zilch.. The guys in the pentagon are no idiots, belief me. The stealth bombers we know about are old head. (30 Years +) If a real Thermo nuclear war was about to start, the US will get their new toys out. The US is not going to sit quietly and wait to get evaporated. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 30311833 United States 04/05/2013 02:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.nknews.org] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30311833 4. What, if anything, do you find peculiar / unprecedented about the current torrent of North Korean ‘abuse’? "Unlike during the previous 60 years of confrontation, this time North Korea evidently has some nuclear deterrence that prompts its leadership to be particularly bold and impudent. Unlike during the previous 60 years of confrontation, this time North Korea evidently has some nuclear deterrence that prompts its leadership to be particularly bold and impudent. Nobody can do anything with a nuclear North Korea and its regime any more. The chain of mistakes made by George W. Bush was exacerbated by the inaction of Barack Obama. As a result, in 2013 North Korea has just changed the world order by rending the nuclear non-proliferation regime defunct and opening the era of nuclear permissiveness." Dr. Leonid Petrov So what about bill Clinton and Madeline Albright. They gave nk the nuke tech. My fellow countrymen are brain dead cowards. . Don't you love it when we change our mind?? (Iran comes to mind) The foundations for Iran's nuclear program were laid on 5 March 1957, when a "proposed agreement for cooperation in research in the peaceful uses of atomic energy" was announced under the auspices of Eisenhower's Atoms for Peace program.[50] [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 30311833 United States 04/05/2013 02:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it is so easy to use ICBM’s, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36545374 Why does America still use B52’s that are 50 + years by now? Why spend so much money on B-2’s? There is a limit on the payload you can put onto a Rocket. Remember all the hype about the Scud missiles in the beginning of the Iraq war? How much influence did they have on the outcome of the war? Zilch.. The guys in the pentagon are no idiots, belief me. The stealth bombers we know about are old head. (30 Years +) If a real Thermo nuclear war was about to start, the US will get their new toys out. The US is not going to sit quietly and wait to get evaporated. Agreed. It does make you wonder what's really going on though, correct? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36545374 United Kingdom 04/05/2013 02:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it is so easy to use ICBM’s, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36545374 Why does America still use B52’s that are 50 + years by now? Why spend so much money on B-2’s? There is a limit on the payload you can put onto a Rocket. Remember all the hype about the Scud missiles in the beginning of the Iraq war? How much influence did they have on the outcome of the war? Zilch.. The guys in the pentagon are no idiots, belief me. The stealth bombers we know about are old head. (30 Years +) If a real Thermo nuclear war was about to start, the US will get their new toys out. The US is not going to sit quietly and wait to get evaporated. Agreed. It does make you wonder what's really going on though, correct? US defence budget 2009/2010 was $ 683 billion. NK GDP @ 40 billion in total.. Get real guys.. You can’t make a silk purse out of a Kim’s (sow’s) ear.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36545374 United Kingdom 04/05/2013 02:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What’s going on? China and the US have done a deal to oust Little Kim. Both don’t need a nuclear war (who does?) This is all about money.. China would lose not billions but Trillions if they would side with NK. China worked so hard to get some credibility in the eyes of the world. They are not going to lose all that for some beggar that leaches of them since ages. If China says in a stamen “We are unhappy with NK” that translates into they are Fuming! Mark my words, Kimi is out, he just doesn’t know it yet. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 30311833 United States 04/05/2013 03:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it is so easy to use ICBM’s, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36545374 Why does America still use B52’s that are 50 + years by now? Why spend so much money on B-2’s? There is a limit on the payload you can put onto a Rocket. Remember all the hype about the Scud missiles in the beginning of the Iraq war? How much influence did they have on the outcome of the war? Zilch.. The guys in the pentagon are no idiots, belief me. The stealth bombers we know about are old head. (30 Years +) If a real Thermo nuclear war was about to start, the US will get their new toys out. The US is not going to sit quietly and wait to get evaporated. Agreed. It does make you wonder what's really going on though, correct? US defence budget 2009/2010 was $ 683 billion. NK GDP @ 40 billion in total.. Get real guys.. You can’t make a silk purse out of a Kim’s (sow’s) ear.. hahahaaa (made me think of the pigsy reference) [link to www.news.com.au] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 30311833 United States 04/05/2013 03:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What’s going on? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36545374 China and the US have done a deal to oust Little Kim. Both don’t need a nuclear war (who does?) This is all about money.. China would lose not billions but Trillions if they would side with NK. China worked so hard to get some credibility in the eyes of the world. They are not going to lose all that for some beggar that leaches of them since ages. If China says in a stamen “We are unhappy with NK” that translates into they are Fuming! Mark my words, Kimi is out, he just doesn’t know it yet. Keyword there is "if." Makes no sense they haven't done it before now. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36545374 United Kingdom 04/05/2013 03:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What’s going on? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36545374 China and the US have done a deal to oust Little Kim. Both don’t need a nuclear war (who does?) This is all about money.. China would lose not billions but Trillions if they would side with NK. China worked so hard to get some credibility in the eyes of the world. They are not going to lose all that for some beggar that leaches of them since ages. If China says in a stamen “We are unhappy with NK” that translates into they are Fuming! Mark my words, Kimi is out, he just doesn’t know it yet. Keyword there is "if." Makes no sense they haven't done it before now. NK has officially declared war on the US and is aiming missiles at the US. So it would be legitimate for the US to do a pre-emptive strike, right? China called on the US to hold off, why? China and the US need plans for the time after NK collapse. China demands a troop reduction from the US in Korea and offers to leave South Korea alone in return. There are two ways this could turn out; If America does nothing to attack NK, the NK Generals could turn against Kim, bringing the system down / aligning the NK system more to the Chinese semi capitalism. If Kim starts to attack, both China and the US will stomp on his head. = End of.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37475246 United States 04/05/2013 03:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Come on! People. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30311833 Is no one considering the residuals of letting North Korea get away with this?? Definition of DEFUNCT: no longer living, existing, or functioning <that firm is now defunct> Get away with what exactly? Having nuclear weapons and acting in an arrogant fashion without concern for international opinion? Gee I wonder where we've seen that done before... It is saying SO much more thn that!! Now there is NO control over nuclear, anybody can do anything they want with them. (not that I am saying they did it well, but at least they tried.) Can't back up what you say, there is no point in saying it. That would be Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Depleted uranium in Iraq. Pretty arrogant if you ask me. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211208 United States 04/05/2013 04:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Calm down people; Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36545374 First, doing some Nuke test is one thing. Building a “Finished product” is another! NK uses Uranium based Nukes due to the fact that they have no Plutonium. To get a “worthwhile” Uranium based Nuke it has to be @ 1000 kg in size. ICBM are usually delivered by going @ 1000 miles into space. That’s why “Star wars” was built in the 90’s, remember? The NK satellite was send into lower orbit by a 3 stage rocket. The satellite was @ 200 Kg and barely made it up there. The leading edge technology satellite plays a children’s song for Christ sake. Little Kim is not Darth Vader, “Fart Vader” is more like it.. Star wars never got off the ground...looks like no help for Australia.. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14006371 Netherlands 04/05/2013 05:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.nknews.org] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30311833 North Korea has just changed the world order by rending the nuclear non-proliferation regime defunct and opening the era of nuclear permissiveness." Dr. Leonid Petrov Maybe it's time for a new one? Oh, wait... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26257191 United States 04/05/2013 06:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More people care about fkg receding hairline?? I fucking hate my receded hairline. Page 1, 2, 3, 4 Anonymous Coward 92 1,264 Priorities are seriously fkd here.. I'd rather make fun of my ex-husbands growing bald spot on the back of his head.....he, he, he, he. Like everyone else on NK, we can't do anything but watch and wait. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15433861 United States 04/05/2013 06:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it is so easy to use ICBM’s, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36545374 Why does America still use B52’s that are 50 + years by now? Why spend so much money on B-2’s? There is a limit on the payload you can put onto a Rocket. Remember all the hype about the Scud missiles in the beginning of the Iraq war? How much influence did they have on the outcome of the war? Zilch.. The guys in the pentagon are no idiots, belief me. The stealth bombers we know about are old head. (30 Years +) If a real Thermo nuclear war was about to start, the US will get their new toys out. The US is not going to sit quietly and wait to get evaporated. I will go slow so you fucking inbred limey's can understand. Strategic forces Triad. That means 3 layers of nuclear weapons delivery systems. Manned bombers are politically the best because they are re-usable, controllable and in the air, very survivable to deliver a nuke. ICBMs are weapons that will never be used. Once you do fire them, they are gone. Usually fixed site, vulnerable to first strike. Last, Sub launched weapons. Stealthy, they are the insurance policy. If you hit a nations ICBMs in a first strike, it is a good bet that the subs (or bombers) will zap your population centers and industrial targets later, thus deterring that first strike in the first place. Got it? |
LostInForever User ID: 1562602 04/05/2013 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nobody is going to nuke anything on either side. There would be no benefit to it. NK especially is not going to, why would they? They would only get nuked in return. Here's an idea: how about we stop the retarded sanctions so the NK people won't be starving to death? I imagine everything would become much more peaceful, and it's money in the bank with another country to sell shit to. If you consider Kim a tyrant, then sanctions don't do anything to hurt him anyway. He would just keep the small resources left and let people die. Yet, seems to me that's what this whole thing is about, NK getting those sanctions lifted. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 30311833 United States 04/05/2013 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way the US handles the situation is just right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36545374 For me it’s like a 3 year old stands in front of you with a pocket knife. Do you get the 9mm Beretta out? No, you spank his butt.. What if it's a loaded crossbow instead of a pocket knife, and the little bugger's mumbling "kill kill kill" Oops, my post didn't work, which is a shame, this post made me laugh when I got the visual :D (come on people, you can't lose your humour) [link to media.photobucket.com] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 30311833 United States 04/05/2013 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What’s going on? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36545374 China and the US have done a deal to oust Little Kim. Both don’t need a nuclear war (who does?) This is all about money.. China would lose not billions but Trillions if they would side with NK. China worked so hard to get some credibility in the eyes of the world. They are not going to lose all that for some beggar that leaches of them since ages. If China says in a stamen “We are unhappy with NK” that translates into they are Fuming! Mark my words, Kimi is out, he just doesn’t know it yet. Keyword there is "if." Makes no sense they haven't done it before now. NK has officially declared war on the US and is aiming missiles at the US. So it would be legitimate for the US to do a pre-emptive strike, right? China called on the US to hold off, why? China and the US need plans for the time after NK collapse. China demands a troop reduction from the US in Korea and offers to leave South Korea alone in return. There are two ways this could turn out; If America does nothing to attack NK, the NK Generals could turn against Kim, bringing the system down / aligning the NK system more to the Chinese semi capitalism. If Kim starts to attack, both China and the US will stomp on his head. = End of.. Define "starts." |