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Yaltabaoth, Saklas, Samael

 
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Yaltabaoth, Saklas, Samael
why worship it?
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i don't. he is the blind fool. sophia's abortion.
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Why would you want to?
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Why would you want to?
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that's what im asking
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Also, depends on whether you are an archon, or an Aeon.
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"The first one began to create the head. Eteraphaope-Abron created his head; Meniggesstroeth created the brain; Asterechme (created) the right eye; Thaspomocha, the left eye; Yeronumos, the right ear; Bissoum, the left ear; Akioreim, the nose; Banen-Ephroum, the lips; Amen, the teeth; Ibikan, the molars; Basiliademe, the tonsils; Achcha, the uvula; Adaban, the neck; Chaaman, the vertebrae; Dearcho, the throat; Tebar, the right shoulder; [...], the left shoulder; Mniarcon, the right elbow; [...], the left elbow; Abitrion, the right underarm; Evanthen, the left underarm; Krys, the right hand; Beluai, the left hand; Treneu, the fingers of the right hand; Balbel, the fingers of the left hand; Kriman, the nails of the hands; Astrops, the right breast; Barroph, the left breast; Baoum, the right shoulder joint; Ararim, the left shoulder joint; Areche, the belly; Phthave, the navel; Senaphim, the abdomen; Arachethopi, the right ribs; Zabedo, the left ribs; Barias, the right hip; Phnouth the left hip; Abenlenarchei, the marrow; Chnoumeninorin, the bones; Gesole, the stomach; Agromauna, the heart; Bano, the lungs; Sostrapal, the liver; Anesimalar, the spleen; Thopithro, the intestines; Biblo, the kidneys; Roeror, the sinews; Taphreo, the spine of the body; Ipouspoboba, the veins; Bineborin, the arteries; Atoimenpsephei, theirs are the breaths which are in all the limbs; Entholleia, all the flesh; Bedouk, the right buttock (?); Arabeei, the left penis; Eilo, the testicles; Sorma, the genitals; Gorma-Kaiochlabar, the right thigh; Nebrith, the left thigh; Pserem, the kidneys of the right leg; Asaklas, the left kidney; Ormaoth, the right leg; Emenun, the left leg; Knyx, the right shin-bone; Tupelon, the left shin-bone; Achiel, the right knee; Phnene, the left knee; Phiouthrom, the right foot; Boabel, its toes; Trachoun, the left foot; Phikna, its toes; Miamai, the nails of the feet; Labernioum - .

"And those who were appointed over all of these are: Zathoth, Armas, Kalila, Jabel, (Sabaoth, Cain, Abel). And those who are particularly active in the limbs (are) the head Diolimodraza, the neck Yammeax, the right shoulder Yakouib, the left shoulder Verton, the right hand Oudidi, the left one Arbao, the fingers of the right hand Lampno, the fingers of the left hand Leekaphar, the right breast Barbar, the left breast Imae, the chest Pisandriaptes, the right shoulder joint Koade, the left shoulder joint Odeor, the right ribs Asphixix, the left ribs Synogchouta, the belly Arouph, the womb Sabalo, the right thigh Charcharb, the left thigh Chthaon, all the genitals Bathinoth, the right leg Choux, the left leg Charcha, the right shin-bone Aroer, the left shin-bone Toechtha, the right knee Aol, the left knee Charaner, the right foot Bastan, its toes Archentechtha, the left foot Marephnounth, its toes Abrana.

"Seven have power over all of these: Michael, Ouriel, Asmenedas, Saphasatoel, Aarmouriam, Richram, Amiorps. And the ones who are in charge over the senses (are) Archendekta; and he who is in charge over the receptions (is) Deitharbathas; and he who is in charge over the imagination (is) Oummaa; and he who is over the composition Aachiaram, and he who is over the whole impulse Riaramnacho.

"And the origin of the demons which are in the whole body is determined to be four: heat, cold, wetness, and dryness. And the mother of all of them is matter. And he who reigns over the heat (is) Phloxopha; and he who reigns over the cold is Oroorrothos; and he who reigns over what is dry (is) Erimacho; and he who reigns over the wetness (is) Athuro. And the mother of all of these, Onorthochrasaei, stands in their midst, since she is illimitable, and she mixes with all of them. And she is truly matter, for they are nourished by her.

"The four chief demons are: Ephememphi, who belongs to pleasure, Yoko, who belongs to desire, Nenentophni, who belongs to grief, Blaomen, who belongs to fear. And the mother of them all is Aesthesis-Ouch-Epi-Ptoe. And from the four demons passions came forth. And from grief (came) envy, jealousy, distress, trouble, pain, callousness, anxiety, mourning, etc. And from pleasure much wickedness arises, and empty pride, and similar things. And from desire (comes) anger, wrath, and bitterness, and bitter passion, and unsatedness, and similar things. And from fear (comes) dread, fawning, agony, and shame. All of these are like useful things as well as evil things. But the insight into their true (character) is Anaro, who is the head of the material soul, for it belongs with the seven senses, Ouch-Epi-Ptoe.
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Archons don't have much of a choice, although the Illuminati is a group of archons who seek to overthrow their creator and achieve their own godhood. Those of us who are aeonic in nature are used by both sides.
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Also, depends on whether you are an archon, or an Aeon.
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do other archons serve it?

it seems like humans might accidentally be serving it

why serve the one who trapped us in matter?
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Btw, Dune is about the Illumaniti's Lucifer/promethius "Messiah" figure achieveing his glory against the Demiurge. We are the sandworms, spice is the loosh which our archon rulers harvest from us.
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Archons don't have much of a choice, although the Illuminati is a group of archons who seek to overthrow their creator and achieve their own godhood. Those of us who are aeonic in nature are used by both sides.
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when you say aeonic in nature what do you mean?
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Also, depends on whether you are an archon, or an Aeon.
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do other archons serve it?

it seems like humans might accidentally be serving it

why serve the one who trapped us in matter?
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We are energy to them. Some humans willingly colloborate.
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Btw, Dune is about the Illumaniti's Lucifer/promethius "Messiah" figure achieveing his glory against the Demiurge. We are the sandworms, spice is the loosh which our archon rulers harvest from us.
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when will all the sparks be freed from this material realm?
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Archons don't have much of a choice, although the Illuminati is a group of archons who seek to overthrow their creator and achieve their own godhood. Those of us who are aeonic in nature are used by both sides.
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when you say aeonic in nature what do you mean?
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True humans are aeons, but can become corrupted over to an archonic signiture.
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What the heck r y'all talkin bout. Where's this from the Kabbala?
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Archons don't have much of a choice, although the Illuminati is a group of archons who seek to overthrow their creator and achieve their own godhood. Those of us who are aeonic in nature are used by both sides.
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when you say aeonic in nature what do you mean?
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True humans are aeons, but can become corrupted over to an archonic signiture.
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ah ok

I think it would be cool if all humans became free from the material realm and archontic influence, what do you think?

hf
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Btw, Dune is about the Illumaniti's Lucifer/promethius "Messiah" figure achieveing his glory against the Demiurge. We are the sandworms, spice is the loosh which our archon rulers harvest from us.
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when will all the sparks be freed from this material realm?
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I hope soon. There may not be any "savior" for us though. We may have to secure own own freedome via gnosis.
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What the heck r y'all talkin bout. Where's this from the Kabbala?
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the apocryphon of john

[link to www.gnosis.org]
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Archons don't have much of a choice, although the Illuminati is a group of archons who seek to overthrow their creator and achieve their own godhood. Those of us who are aeonic in nature are used by both sides.
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when you say aeonic in nature what do you mean?
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True humans are aeons, but can become corrupted over to an archonic signiture.
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ah ok

I think it would be cool if all humans became free from the material realm and archontic influence, what do you think?

hf
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Would be pretty sweet.
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What the heck r y'all talkin bout. Where's this from the Kabbala?
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the apocryphon of john

[link to www.gnosis.org]
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Nag Hammadi.
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Btw, Dune is about the Illumaniti's Lucifer/promethius "Messiah" figure achieveing his glory against the Demiurge. We are the sandworms, spice is the loosh which our archon rulers harvest from us.
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when will all the sparks be freed from this material realm?
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I hope soon. There may not be any "savior" for us though. We may have to secure own own freedome via gnosis.
 Quoting: theorigionalzombiekiller


the "saviour" is within, yes

but how do we know when we reach that point?
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when you say aeonic in nature what do you mean?
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True humans are aeons, but can become corrupted over to an archonic signiture.
 Quoting: theorigionalzombiekiller


ah ok

I think it would be cool if all humans became free from the material realm and archontic influence, what do you think?

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37504714


Would be pretty sweet.
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is it unrealistic to hope for this?
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i don't. he is the blind fool. sophia's abortion.
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why didn't Sophia prevent him from trapping us in matter?
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Never come across this before... Thanks guys
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Never come across this before... Thanks guys
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hf
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i don't. he is the blind fool. sophia's abortion.
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why didn't Sophia prevent him from trapping us in matter?
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ironic that only gnostics believe in wisdom, but also in stupid gods.
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i don't. he is the blind fool. sophia's abortion.
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why didn't Sophia prevent him from trapping us in matter?
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ironic that only gnostics believe in wisdom, but also in stupid gods.
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Well, gods in quotation marks. Ultimatly, we are the only true gods. They are parasites.
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i don't. he is the blind fool. sophia's abortion.
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no not aborted just didnt see the connection to life "it" shared
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i don't. he is the blind fool. sophia's abortion.
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why didn't Sophia prevent him from trapping us in matter?
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ironic that only gnostics believe in wisdom, but also in stupid gods.
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Well, gods in quotation marks. Ultimatly, we are the only true gods. They are parasites.
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I still can't figure out why Sophia allowed us to be trapped in matter.

Don't give me wrong I still love Sophia
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why didn't Sophia prevent him from trapping us in matter?
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ironic that only gnostics believe in wisdom, but also in stupid gods.
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Well, gods in quotation marks. Ultimatly, we are the only true gods. They are parasites.
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I still can't figure out why Sophia allowed us to be trapped in matter.

Don't give me wrong I still love Sophia
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get me wrong that is
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ironic that only gnostics believe in wisdom, but also in stupid gods.
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Well, gods in quotation marks. Ultimatly, we are the only true gods. They are parasites.
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I still can't figure out why Sophia allowed us to be trapped in matter.

Don't give me wrong I still love Sophia
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get me wrong that is
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She sure messed up. Maybe we will get to ask her what happened someday.
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Well, gods in quotation marks. Ultimatly, we are the only true gods. They are parasites.
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I still can't figure out why Sophia allowed us to be trapped in matter.

Don't give me wrong I still love Sophia
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get me wrong that is
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She sure messed up. Maybe we will get to ask her what happened someday.
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after dropping all material attachments, how else does one escape from this realm?

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