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THE HEBREWS OF WEST AFRICA JUDAH AND "ASAN" LEVITES CLOSE TOGETHER | |
| Neim-Ya'shar Offer Upgrade  User ID: 36535288  United States04/09/2013 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AS you read further more evidence from the book of jubilees closer down confirming the allocation of lands to Noahs sons Did another search to see what the meaning was about "beyond the rivers of ethiopia".Needed to verify it was just rivers and not the sea which will confirm that the prophecy was about the people and the place were in the African Continents and not outside of it  In Isaiah chapter 18 of your bibles you will see something like this 1 Woe to the land shadowing with wings, which is beyond the rivers of Ethiopia: 2 That sendeth ambassadors by the sea, even in vessels of bulrushes upon the waters, saying, Go, ye swift messengers, to a nation scattered and peeled, to a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden down, whose land the rivers have spoiled! **Israel was peeled from the land and scattered and ran over to the wilderness over the moutains.Messiah warned them to do so**  This is ISAIAH CHP 18 1-2 the first translation from the hebrew to english bible by tynsdale before gregory and king james changed up the wordings.Tyndale was assasinated by rome and his work was taken and done over by gregory and king james.  Woe be unto the land of *flying ships, which is this side the *flood*[rivers] of Ethiopia: which sendeth her message *over the sea in ships* of reeds upon the water: and sayeth go soon, and do your message unto a strange and hard folk: to a fearful people, and to a people that is further than this: to a desperate and *pilled folk, whose land is divided from us with rivers of water. I pondered across this nation beyond the african continents with flying ships whom used the sea. Now you see the prophecy points the coloialists who used that passage way for the transatlantic slave trade and the introduction of new christianity to the hebrews.These were mainly the spaniards conquistadores of Tarshish same side of the rivers as ethiopia  THE GOLD COAST & SLAVE COAST IS THAT PLACE WHERE THE COLONIALIST HAD SETUP THEIR FORTS AND SLAVE TRADING POSTS AND FALSE CHRISTIAN RELIGION WAS THE MESSAGE TO THE HEBEWS AS THEY WERE NOW SHIPPED OF AS SLAVES This totally proves that the land shadowing with wings is not AMERICA or some far out country outside of the african continents but a part of its land mass.This again confirms that prophecy in this case was addressing the hebrews in the west africa region. The judeans did live amongst the hamites and raise families becoming daughters of the dipersed.  Does anyone REALLY! understand how huge this is and what this does to the traditional christian teachings? This discovery also confirms revelation chapter 12 Here is an old map of Israel same year 1747 of the tribes of israel.Notice please the language.You will observe *JUDEA!* *THE KINGDOM OF JUDA* & *THE TRIBE OF JUDA*  Let is look at the map of west africa same year 1747 and notice where the colonialist called *THE SLAVE COAST* it is called *THE KINGDOM OF JUDA*  THE BOOK OF JUBILEE CHAPTER 8: SOME OF THE LAND MASS SHEM POSSESSED And all that is towards the north is Japheth's, and all that is towards the 13 south belongs to Shem. And it extends till it reaches Karaso: this is in the bosom of the tongue 14 which looks towards the south. And his portion extends along the great sea, and it extends in a straight line till it reaches the west of the tongue which looks towards the south: for this sea is 15 named the tongue of the Egyptian Sea. And it turns from here towards the south towards the mouth of the great sea on the shore of (its) waters, and it extends to the west to 'Afra, and it extends till it reaches the waters of the river Gihon, and to the south of the waters of Gihon, to the 16 banks of this river. And it extends towards the east, till it reaches the Garden of Eden, to the south thereof, [to the south] and from the east of the whole land of Eden and of the whole east, it turns to the east and proceeds till it reaches the east of the mountain named Rafa, and it descends 17 to the bank of the mouth of the river Tina. This portion came forth by lot for Shem and his sons, THATS RIGHT WEST AFRA IS WEST AFRICA! REV CHAPTER 12 And when the dragon saw, that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman, which brought forth the man child. And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, times, and half a time, from the presence of the serpent. Heb chp 7:14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Judah; of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood And the dragon cast out of his mouth water after the woman as it had been a river, because she should have been caught of the flood. And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth and swallowed, up the river, which the dragon cast out of his mouth. And the dragon was wroth with the woman: and went and made war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Yehshiyeh Christ. Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 03/19/2014 09:48 AM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 17510645  Sweden04/09/2013 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do scholars say Negroes are not African? Zondervan's Compact Bible Dictionary: Ham - The youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood; and one of eight persons to live through the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races; not the Negroes, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites. why does it say not the negroes? if negroes are not Hamitic then who are they from? Caucasians claim to be japhetic, false jews claim to be semitic. so who are the negroes which scholars claim are not africans  THE EVIDENCE IS ALL ABOVE IN THE THREAD!! Historical maps and biblical facts WHY WILL THE SCROLLS OF THE ESSENCE LIE? Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 04/09/2013 08:24 PM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 2721187  Germany04/09/2013 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you Neim. Keep it up. Don't let them get to you. Your work is much appreciated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37715073 Thanks for the uplifting..I thought about it lastnight and realized there is a reason for the onslaught.It is because I am telling the truth and they all want it to stop. 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 754536 United States04/09/2013 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The notion that Ham was the progenitor of the Negroes is laughable, at best. According to biblical timelines Ham was born centuries if not millennia too late to have been guilty of such. |
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| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 33746283  Czechia04/09/2013 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well actually, you contradict the word of God since it was only the house of Israel that was prophesied to lose it's identity, not the House of Judah. The World has always know who the Jews were. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37700964 israel is used in the bible as a whole and at times to describe the northern kingom “So Israel has been in rebellion against the house of David to this day” (1 Kings 12:19). The northern kingdom is called “Israel” (or sometimes “Ephraim”) in Scripture, and the southern kingdom is called “Judah.” From the divine viewpoint, the division was a judgment on not keeping God’s commands, specifically the commands prohibiting idolatry. From a human viewpoint, the division was the result of tribal discord and political unrest. The principle is that sin brings division (1 Corinthians 1:13, 11:18; James 4:1). The good news is that God, in His mercy, has promised a reuniting of the northern and southern kingdoms. “He will raise a banner for the nations / and gather the exiles of Israel; / he will assemble the scattered people of Judah / from the four quarters of the earth. / Ephraim’s jealousy will vanish, / and Judah’s enemies will be destroyed; / Ephraim will not be jealous of Judah, / nor Judah hostile toward Ephraim” (Isaiah 11:12-13). When the Prince of Peace—Jesus Christ—reigns in His millennial kingdom, all hostility, jealousy, and conflict among the tribes will be put to rest. Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 04/09/2013 01:10 PM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 33746283 Czechia04/09/2013 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well prove the historical and biblical findings wrong..and get your map 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 33746283 Czechia04/09/2013 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Which credible scholar claims that negroes are not African? The negroid race came specifically from sub-Saharan Africa. Any teaching contrary to what we can physically and historically verify is foolish. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754536 The notion that Ham was the progenitor of the Negroes is laughable, at best. According to biblical timelines Ham was born centuries if not millennia too late to have been guilty of such. conjecture 1 find the evidence and research as per the topic instead of your conversation 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 33746283 Czechia04/09/2013 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The word of God has made the distinction between the House of Israel and the House of Judah ever since the civil war in King Solomon's time. It was only the House of Israel that was prophesied to lose it's identity, NOT the House of Judah. Your teaching is false. The Bible never mentioned the House of Judah losing it identity. That is a biblical fact. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37700964 Wrong got to duet chapter 28 it was all isreal the curse were for.They split after and one was called israel and the other judah but all Israel 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 754536 United States04/09/2013 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Which credible scholar claims that negroes are not African? The negroid race came specifically from sub-Saharan Africa. Any teaching contrary to what we can physically and historically verify is foolish. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754536 The notion that Ham was the progenitor of the Negroes is laughable, at best. According to biblical timelines Ham was born centuries if not millennia too late to have been guilty of such. conjecture 1 find the evidence and research as per the topic instead of your conversation Yes, the topic is interesting, to say the least, and I appreciate you posting the thread. My question was what the statement regarding negroes had to do with your topic. Next time, I'll know to phrase it as a question since debate about a peripheral subject that you interjected is not allowed. Thank you and good day. |
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| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 1236529 United States04/09/2013 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The word of God makes no mention of Judah being in Africa. You teach contrary to the word of God. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37700964 Because lack of undersanding you don't get it.Ethiopia in your bible is reference to that h=whole land mass and also the wilderness. 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 1236529 United States04/09/2013 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Urantia Book is far more accurate than the Bible on these matters. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 981337 I don't mess with those books 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37700964 United States04/09/2013 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Wrong got to duet chapter 28 it was all isreal the curse were for.They split after and one was called israel and the other judah but all Israel" What is wrong? That only the lost tribes of Israel were prophesied to lose it's identity, NOT the House of Judah. You even admit to the separation of the House of Israel and the House of Judah and by the time the lost tribes of Israel had lost their identity, that was well after the civil war of King Solomons day and the bible by that time always made the distinction between the two and nowhere did it mention the House of Judah losing it's identity. In fact, there are many end-times prophecies for Judah and only the Jews match them, certainly not any Negroes. |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 1236529 United States04/09/2013 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Which credible scholar claims that negroes are not African? The negroid race came specifically from sub-Saharan Africa. Any teaching contrary to what we can physically and historically verify is foolish. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754536 The notion that Ham was the progenitor of the Negroes is laughable, at best. According to biblical timelines Ham was born centuries if not millennia too late to have been guilty of such. conjecture 1 find the evidence and research as per the topic instead of your conversation Yes, the topic is interesting, to say the least, and I appreciate you posting the thread. My question was what the statement regarding negroes had to do with your topic. Next time, I'll know to phrase it as a question since debate about a peripheral subject that you interjected is not allowed. Thank you and good day. The map I showed is what your ancestors put on the map so i was just referencing the maps which were created by Europeans scholars and Expeditionists/explorers. Notice on the map of west Africa they called it Negroeland..it is big and bold that is why I mentioned that so you all see the location we are referring to 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 1236529 United States04/09/2013 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Wrong got to duet chapter 28 it was all isreal the curse were for.They split after and one was called israel and the other judah but all Israel" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37700964 What is wrong? That only the lost tribes of Israel were prophesied to lose it's identity, NOT the House of Judah. You even admit to the separation of the House of Israel and the House of Judah and by the time the lost tribes of Israel had lost their identity, that was well after the civil war of King Solomons day and the bible by that time always made the distinction between the two and nowhere did it mention the House of Judah losing it's identity. In fact, there are many end-times prophecies for Judah and only the Jews match them, certainly not any Negroes. DUET CHAPTER 28 IS ISREAL AS A WHOLE! JUDAH WAS CAST OUT SYSTEMATICALLY IN THE DAYS OF JEREMIAH AND BARUCH AND THEN AGAIN MESSIAH WARNED WHEN THE ROMANS CAME WHICH WAS DANIEL PROPHECY. 70 AD WAS THE FINAL CLEANSING AND DISPERSION OF JUDAH HERE IS GOD PRONOUNCING THE JUDGEMENT ON JUDAH AS HE DID ISRAEL IN 2ND KING CHAPTER 17 2ND KINGS CHAPTER 23 26 Notwithstanding the LORD turned not from the fierceness of his great wrath, wherewith his anger was kindled against Judah, because of all the provocations that Manasseh had provoked him withal. 27 And the LORD said, I will remove Judah also out of my sight, as I have removed Israel, and will cast off this city Jerusalem which I have chosen, and the house of which I said, My name shall be there. 28 Now the rest of the acts of Josiah, and all that he did, are they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Judah? Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 04/09/2013 01:33 PM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37700964 United States04/09/2013 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No I think you lack understanding. The bible does not refer to the whole continent of Africa as Ethiopia. Have you forgotten of Egypt? That is not biblical. The bible does say this about Ethiopians, Numbers 12:1: And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman. Isaiah 18:1 Woe to the land shadowing with wings, which is beyond the rivers of Ethiopia 20:3 And the LORD said, Like as my servant Isaiah hath walked naked and barefoot three years for a sign and wonder upon Egypt and upon Ethiopia 20:4 So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt. 20:5 And they shall be afraid and ashamed of Ethiopia their expectation, and of Egypt their glory. 37:9 And he heard say concerning Tirhakah king of Ethiopia, He is come forth to make war with thee. And when he heard it, he sent messengers to Hezekiah, saying,Isa.43 43:3 For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee. 45:14 Thus saith the LORD, The labour of Egypt, and merchandise of Ethiopia and of the Sabeans, men of stature, shall come over unto thee, and they shall be thine: they shall come after thee; in chains they shall come over, and they shall fall down unto thee, they shall make supplication unto thee, saying, Surely God is in thee; and there is none else, there is no God. Jeremiah 13:23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil. Amos.9 9:7 Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the LORD. Have not I brought up Israel out of the land of Egypt? and the Philistines from Caphtor, and the Syrians from Kir? |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 15559821  Austria04/09/2013 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Wrong got to duet chapter 28 it was all isreal the curse were for.They split after and one was called israel and the other judah but all Israel" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37700964 What is wrong? That only the lost tribes of Israel were prophesied to lose it's identity, NOT the House of Judah. You even admit to the separation of the House of Israel and the House of Judah and by the time the lost tribes of Israel had lost their identity, that was well after the civil war of King Solomons day and the bible by that time always made the distinction between the two and nowhere did it mention the House of Judah losing it's identity. In fact, there are many end-times prophecies for Judah and only the Jews match them, certainly not any Negroes. DUET CHAPTER 28 IS ISREAL AS A WHOLE! JUDAH WAS CAST OUT SYSTEMATICALLY IN THE DAYS OF JEREMIAH AND BARUCH AND THEN AGAIN MESSIAH WARNED WHEN THE ROMANS CAME WHICH WAS DANIEL PROPHECY. 70 AD WAS THE FINAL CLEANSING AND DISPERSION OF JUDAH HERE IS GOD PRONOUNCING THE JUDGEMENT ON JUDAH AS HE DID ISRAEL IN 2ND KING CHAPTER 17 2ND KINGS CHAPTER 23 26 Notwithstanding the LORD turned not from the fierceness of his great wrath, wherewith his anger was kindled against Judah, because of all the provocations that Manasseh had provoked him withal. 27 And the LORD said, I will remove Judah also out of my sight, as I have removed Israel, and will cast off this city Jerusalem which I have chosen, and the house of which I said, My name shall be there. 28 Now the rest of the acts of Josiah, and all that he did, are they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Judah? 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37700964 United States04/09/2013 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "DUET CHAPTER 28 IS ISREAL AS A WHOLE!" I didn't say the covenant did not apply to both the House of Israel and the House of Judah, just that the word of God makes the distinction between the two which even you admit and that it was only the House of Israel that was prophesied to lose it identity. See here, In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers. Jeremiah 3:18 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37700964 United States04/09/2013 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "DUET CHAPTER 28 IS ISREAL AS A WHOLE! JUDAH WAS CAST OUT SYSTEMATICALLY IN THE DAYS OF JEREMIAH AND BARUCH AND THEN AGAIN MESSIAH WARNED WHEN THE ROMANS CAME WHICH WAS DANIEL PROPHECY. 70 AD WAS THE FINAL CLEANSING AND DISPERSION OF JUDAH HERE IS GOD PRONOUNCING THE JUDGEMENT ON JUDAH AS HE DID ISRAEL IN 2ND KING CHAPTER 17 2ND KINGS CHAPTER 23 26 Notwithstanding the LORD turned not from the fierceness of his great wrath, wherewith his anger was kindled against Judah, because of all the provocations that Manasseh had provoked him withal. 27 And the LORD said, I will remove Judah also out of my sight, as I have removed Israel, and will cast off this city Jerusalem which I have chosen, and the house of which I said, My name shall be there. 28 Now the rest of the acts of Josiah, and all that he did, are they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Judah?" You are taking that out of context, that refers to Judah's captivity in Babylon. |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 15559821 Austria04/09/2013 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "DUET CHAPTER 28 IS ISREAL AS A WHOLE! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37700964 JUDAH WAS CAST OUT SYSTEMATICALLY IN THE DAYS OF JEREMIAH AND BARUCH AND THEN AGAIN MESSIAH WARNED WHEN THE ROMANS CAME WHICH WAS DANIEL PROPHECY. 70 AD WAS THE FINAL CLEANSING AND DISPERSION OF JUDAH HERE IS GOD PRONOUNCING THE JUDGEMENT ON JUDAH AS HE DID ISRAEL IN 2ND KING CHAPTER 17 2ND KINGS CHAPTER 23 26 Notwithstanding the LORD turned not from the fierceness of his great wrath, wherewith his anger was kindled against Judah, because of all the provocations that Manasseh had provoked him withal. 27 And the LORD said, I will remove Judah also out of my sight, as I have removed Israel, and will cast off this city Jerusalem which I have chosen, and the house of which I said, My name shall be there. 28 Now the rest of the acts of Josiah, and all that he did, are they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Judah?" You are taking that out of context, that refers to Judah's captivity in Babylon. Why when you folk get scriptures you cannot argue with you resort to things like..You are blind..you are taking it out of context...Come on now brother read the book.. I am done here hope you continue to research 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37700964 United States04/09/2013 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also. Jeremiah 3:8 |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 31658851 United States04/09/2013 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "DUET CHAPTER 28 IS ISREAL AS A WHOLE!" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37700964 I didn't say the covenant did not apply to both the House of Israel and the House of Judah, just that the word of God makes the distinction between the two which even you admit and that it was only the House of Israel that was prophesied to lose it identity. See here, In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers. Jeremiah 3:18 are you confused ?who is talking about a covenant ? Really we are not connecting if you keep disreagarding the order of the book..sorry 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37700964 United States04/09/2013 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Why when you folk get scriptures you cannot argue with you resort to things like..You are blind..you are taking it out of context...Come on now brother read the book.. I am done here hope you continue to research" You have clearly taken it out of context. That is simply a fact. It refers to Judah's captivity in Babylon. Use the word of God to prove me wrong otherwise. You will not be able to because you are wrong and I am right. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37700964 United States04/09/2013 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37700964 United States04/09/2013 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I found the scripture that clearly refutes your false teaching, And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also. Jeremiah 3:8 The clear distinction! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37700964 United States04/09/2013 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father’s children shall bow down before thee. Judah is a lion’s whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up? The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass’s colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes: His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk".—Genesis 49:8-12 Please explain to all of us what negro people match that end-times prophecy for Judah. |
