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Please Post Your Historical Evidence Supporting the Resurrection of Jesus Christ !!!

I've been reading a paper by Professor McDowell on this topic. I intend to post parts of it for a discussion. If you know of any other supporting evidence then please share!

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Paper Title:

Evidence for the Resurrection

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FACT #1: BROKEN ROMAN SEAL
As we have said, the first obvious fact was the breaking of the seal that stood for the power and authority of the Roman Empire. The consequences of breaking the seal were extremely severe. The FBI and CIA of the Roman Empire were called into action to find the man or men who were responsible. If they were apprehended, it meant automatic execution by crucifixion upside down. People feared the breaking of the seal. Jesus' disciples displayed signs of cowardice when they hid themselves. Peter, one of these disciples, went out and denied Christ three times.

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"FACT #2: EMPTY TOMB
As we have already discussed, another obvious fact after the resurrection was the empty tomb. The disciples of Christ did not go off to Athens or Rome to preach that Christ was raised from the dead. Rather, they went right back to the city of Jerusalem, where, if what they were teaching was false, the falsity would be evident. The empty tomb was "too notorious to be denied." Paul Althaus states that the resurrection "could have not been maintained in Jerusalem for a single day, for a single hour, if the emptiness of the tomb had not been established as a fact for all concerned."

Both Jewish and Roman sources and traditions admit an empty tomb. Those resources range from Josephus to a compilation of fifth-century Jewish writings called the "Toledoth Jeshu." Dr. Paul Maier calls this "positive evidence from a hostile source, which is the strongest kind of historical evidence. In essence, this means that if a source admits a fact decidedly not in its favor, then that fact is genuine."

Gamaliel, who was a member of the Jewish high court, the Sanhedrin, put forth the suggestion that the rise of the Christian movement was God's doing; he could not have done that if the tomb were still occupied, or if the Sanhedrin knew the whereabouts of Christ's body.

Paul Maier observes that " . . . if all the evidence is weighed carefully and fairly, it is indeed justifiable, according to the canons of historical research, to conclude that the sepulcher of Joseph of Arimathea, in which Jesus was buried, was actually empty on the morning of the first Easter. And no shred of evidence has yet been discovered in literary sources, epigraphy, or archaeology that would disprove this statement."


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"FACT #3: LARGE STONE MOVED
On that Sunday morning the first thing that impressed the people who approached the tomb was the unusual position of the one and a half to two ton stone that had been lodged in front of the doorway. All the Gospel writers mention it.

[[There exists no document from the ancient world, witnessed by so excellent a set of textual and historical testimonies . . . Skepticism regarding the historical credentials of Christianity is based upon an irrational bias.

Clark Pinnock
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Those who observed the stone after the resurrection describe its position as having been rolled up a slope away not just from the entrance of the tomb, but from the entire massive sepulcher. It was in such a position that it looked as if it had been picked up and carried away. Now, I ask you, if the disciples had wanted to come in, tiptoe around the sleeping guards, and then roll the stone over and steal Jesus' body, how could they have done that without the guards' awareness?"

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FACT #4: ROMAN GUARD GOES AWOL
The Roman guards fled. They left their place of responsibility. How can their attrition he explained, when Roman military discipline was so exceptional? Justin, in Digest #49, mentions all the offenses that required the death penalty. The fear of their superiors' wrath and the possibility of death meant that they paid close attention to the minutest details of their jobs. One way a guard was put to death was by being stripped of his clothes and then burned alive in a fire started with his garments. If it was not apparent which soldier had failed in his duty, then lots were drawn to see which one would be punished with death for the guard unit's failure. Certainly the entire unit would not have fallen asleep with that kind of threat over their heads."


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"FACT #5: GRAVECLOTHES TELL A TALE
In a literal sense, against all statements to the contrary, the tomb was not totally empty--because of an amazing phenomenon. John, a disciple of Jesus, looked over to the place where the body of Jesus had lain, and there were the grave clothes, in the form of the body, slightly caved in and empty--like the empty chrysalis of a caterpillar's cocoon. That's enough to make a believer out of anybody. John never did get over it. The first thing that stuck in the minds of the disciples was not the empty tomb, but rather the empty grave clothes--undisturbed in form and position."

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FACT #6: JESUS' APPEARANCES CONFIRMED
Christ appeared alive on several occasions after the cataclysmic events of that first Easter . When studying an event in history, it is important to know whether enough people who were participants or eyewitnesses to the event were alive when the facts about the event were published. To know this is obviously helpful in ascertaining the accuracy of the published report. If the number of eyewitnesses is substantial, the event can he regarded as fairly well established. For instance, if we all witness a murder, and a later police report turns out to he a fabrication of lies, we as eyewitnesses can refute it."


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Jesus Christ fulfilled ancient Jewish prophecy through His birth, ministry, and death. Then, the Lord Jesus Christ appeared to more than 500 people after His Resurrection in about 40 days before His ascension into Heaven. His life has impacted World History more than any other life and will continue to do so until His return.
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This paper indicates that the books in the

New Testament all date before A.D. 80 !!!



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This paper indicates that the books in the

New Testament all date before A.D. 80 !!!


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It also indicates that...

the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus has more

supporting evidence than most facts "of ancient history."



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The FACT that the tomb is empty is accepted by all.

Not one person disputes this important information !!!



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This paper indicates that the books in the

New Testament all date before A.D. 80 !!!


 Quoting: Once4All


It also indicates that...

the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus has more

supporting evidence than most facts "of ancient history."



 Quoting: Once4All


It further states that many of the writers of the New Testament are first hand witnesses.

One, hostile witness, [Saul] makes the others even more credible by his testimony that he changed his life after he also saw Jesus Christ alive from the dead.


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Jesus is Alive, Alleluia !!!

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Jesus is Risen, Alleluia !!!

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Any evidence around that is not in the Bible?
Maybe at all?
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Any evidence around that is not in the Bible?
Maybe at all?
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Any evidence around that is not in the Bible?
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What an honor bestowed upon us...

To partake in calling out those whom the LORD has predestined to receive eternal life.

Thank you for your labor of love in sharing such a ministry.

Glory to The Christ and To The Father.

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FACT #1: BROKEN ROMAN SEAL
As we have said, the first obvious fact was the breaking of the seal that stood for the power and authority of the Roman Empire. The consequences of breaking the seal were extremely severe. The FBI and CIA of the Roman Empire were called into action to find the man or men who were responsible. If they were apprehended, it meant automatic execution by crucifixion upside down. People feared the breaking of the seal. Jesus' disciples displayed signs of cowardice when they hid themselves. Peter, one of these disciples, went out and denied Christ three times.

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Yes, it just seems like if Rome is going to take the time to Seal the tomb then they would do so with a firm purpose. Pilate told them they have enough of a guard to secure the tomb. So, obviously they did but it just wasn't enough.
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Any evidence around that is not in the Bible?
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lol The paper is not THAT long! Is there a desire inside of you to want to know The Truth? Why don't you take some time to read and THINK about what the paper says?
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To partake in calling out those whom the LORD has predestined to receive eternal life.

Thank you for your labor of love in sharing such a ministry.

Glory to The Christ and To The Father.

peace,
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"FACT #2: EMPTY TOMB
As we have already discussed, another obvious fact after the resurrection was the empty tomb. The disciples of Christ did not go off to Athens or Rome to preach that Christ was raised from the dead. Rather, they went right back to the city of Jerusalem, where, if what they were teaching was false, the falsity would be evident. The empty tomb was "too notorious to be denied." Paul Althaus states that the resurrection "could have not been maintained in Jerusalem for a single day, for a single hour, if the emptiness of the tomb had not been established as a fact for all concerned."

Both Jewish and Roman sources and traditions admit an empty tomb. Those resources range from Josephus to a compilation of fifth-century Jewish writings called the "Toledoth Jeshu." Dr. Paul Maier calls this "positive evidence from a hostile source, which is the strongest kind of historical evidence. In essence, this means that if a source admits a fact decidedly not in its favor, then that fact is genuine."

Gamaliel, who was a member of the Jewish high court, the Sanhedrin, put forth the suggestion that the rise of the Christian movement was God's doing; he could not have done that if the tomb were still occupied, or if the Sanhedrin knew the whereabouts of Christ's body.

Paul Maier observes that " . . . if all the evidence is weighed carefully and fairly, it is indeed justifiable, according to the canons of historical research, to conclude that the sepulcher of Joseph of Arimathea, in which Jesus was buried, was actually empty on the morning of the first Easter. And no shred of evidence has yet been discovered in literary sources, epigraphy, or archaeology that would disprove this statement."


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In Acts we read that thousands and thousands were added to the church. This is precisely because everybody knew the tomb was empty and there was no good explanation for it except the fact that Jesus Christ said He would rise from the dead and then He just went and did it! Praise God.
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"FACT #3: LARGE STONE MOVED
On that Sunday morning the first thing that impressed the people who approached the tomb was the unusual position of the one and a half to two ton stone that had been lodged in front of the doorway. All the Gospel writers mention it.

[[There exists no document from the ancient world, witnessed by so excellent a set of textual and historical testimonies . . . Skepticism regarding the historical credentials of Christianity is based upon an irrational bias.

Clark Pinnock
Mcmaster University]]

Those who observed the stone after the resurrection describe its position as having been rolled up a slope away not just from the entrance of the tomb, but from the entire massive sepulcher. It was in such a position that it looked as if it had been picked up and carried away. Now, I ask you, if the disciples had wanted to come in, tiptoe around the sleeping guards, and then roll the stone over and steal Jesus' body, how could they have done that without the guards' awareness?"

 Quoting: Once4All


Yes, the stone was obviously rolled away. Regarding the underlined portion, i wonder what his sources are for this. If anyone knows please let me know.
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FACT #4: ROMAN GUARD GOES AWOL
The Roman guards fled. They left their place of responsibility. How can their attrition he explained, when Roman military discipline was so exceptional? Justin, in Digest #49, mentions all the offenses that required the death penalty. The fear of their superiors' wrath and the possibility of death meant that they paid close attention to the minutest details of their jobs. One way a guard was put to death was by being stripped of his clothes and then burned alive in a fire started with his garments. If it was not apparent which soldier had failed in his duty, then lots were drawn to see which one would be punished with death for the guard unit's failure. Certainly the entire unit would not have fallen asleep with that kind of threat over their heads."


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This ancient world was a brutal world. Roman soldiers don't just flee without good reason. From everything i've read, flee your post means death. Something very frightful must have caused these men to flee! So, testimony of them departing their post is historical evidence.
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OP, I command you in the name of Trinity to spend five of your life listening to Santos Bonacci explain who Jesus is. Love and blessing to you.
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Any evidence around that is not in the Bible?
Maybe at all?
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ohyeah
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im convinced
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lol The paper is not THAT long! Is there a desire inside of you to want to know The Truth? Why don't you take some time to read and THINK about what the paper says?
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i did read it.
it used only bible sources.
and what people think.
no actual evidence, no tomb, no cross, no evidence outside the bible.
at least on this paper.

i didnt see any in this thread.



is there anyone who can prove the bible to be fact, not using the bible, or faith?

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