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Proper writing, including paragraphs is essential to recovery. I promise.
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Wall of text. Summary of my experience follows:

I stopped 120 mg oxy cold turkey.

I got diarrhea and muscle aches.

big deal.

I stopped IV dilaudid

see above

opiates/opoids never did a thing for me, one way or the other.

I am now a pot head. I am much happier.
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I think suboxone is misused by the doctors to just get you hooked on something else that's even HARDER to get rid of.

SWIM was doing maybe 5 - 6 blues a day. SWIM saw people trying to quit using subs. SWIM saw people getting higher and higher doses per day and SWIM thought it was just replacing one addiction with another, except all that money was going to the doctors pocket.

After doing some research, SWIM decided to get a tiny bit of suboxone (1 8mg pill). SWIM took tiny pieces of it, starting with a quarter (by weight). SWIM wouldn't take anymore until the withdrawal came back. Then SWIM would take a smaller (by weight) piece. Each time SWIM did this, the withdrawal came back later and with less intensity than the last time. Eventually, when the pill was gone, SWIM was able to withstan the withdrawals.

SWIM didn't sleep very well for a few weeks after that, but it was one of the most life changing experiences of SWIM's life. Certainly made SWIM get SWIM's shit together.

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I am now a pot head. I am much happier.
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That shit probably saved SWIM's life. Certainly helped SWIM get through things.
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Wall of text. Summary of my experience follows:

I stopped 120 mg oxy cold turkey.

I got diarrhea and muscle aches.

big deal.

I stopped IV dilaudid

see above

opiates/opoids never did a thing for me, one way or the other.

I am now a pot head. I am much happier.
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What happened in your life that you need drugs to make you happy?
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dude paragraphs man. Thats almost impossible to read.
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What happened in your life that you need drugs to make you happy?
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The heriditary (fatal) neuropathy. Only thing that worked on my Dad at the end was Ketamine.

We've also had an almost black humor group of hangings (among affected family members), shootings and even the guy who offed himself with a sharpened butter knife to the femoral artery (that'll teach the wife to hide the guns!). I continue to live on, stubbornly, just to confuse my doctors. And re-edit my posts.

Every day is an adventure, kind of like being chased by lions through the veldt. Then caught, and chewed on a bit.stoner

Op, stay hydrated, you may wish to try Immodium for the bowel issues.
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What happened in your life that you need drugs to make you happy?
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The heriditary (fatal) neuropathy. Only thing that worked on my Dad at the end was Ketamine.

We've also had an almost black humor group of hangings (among affected family members), shootings and even the guy who offed himself with a sharpened butter knife to the femoral artery (that'll teach the wife to hide the guns!). I continue to live on, stubbornly, just to confuse my doctors. And re-edit my posts.

Every day is an adventure, kind of like being chased by lions through the veldt. Then caught, and chewed on a bit.stoner

Op, stay hydrated, you may wish to try Immodium for the bowel issues.
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I know what u mean. My family is riddled with mental health issues, and I inherited bi-polar and depression issues.

Gatorade is very good to drink to stay hydrated.:lkj:
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Apparently, immodium acts exactly like the opiates but ONLY on your stomach.
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I like many other opiate addicts have experienced first hand and more then once I might add(do to our sick natured minds) the god aweful horrendous effects of withdrawl from opiates... now, I can only speak for MYSELF and share my personal experiences and battles with this demon. I have been an opiate addict for 6.5 years now and started out with the infamous oxy 80's and a little bit of heroin how I would describe the withdrawing experience for myself from these is misuarable it slowly progressed over the first 5 days my first time i detoxed (runny nose, watering eyes, constent yawning when your not even tired, very hypersensitive to smell and sound especially) around day 5 or six without any oxy I would say it peaked with all of the previous listed symptoms as well as SEVERE diariha and restless leg and arm syndrom after day 7 or 8 i slowly started to improve and by day 14 I would say functional. still absolutly misuarable and craving for oxy like i cant describe but able to walk around and get out a litte bit have something small to eat....several weeks went by before I relapsed back to oxy and this time for help decided to see a buprinorphine aka suboxone/subutex dr whom started me at 8 mg a day and gradually pushed my dose to 24 mg a day over the course of 3 months I stayed on this dose for about 2 years before I got complacent and un-focussed with my recovery , at this time I started to binge on xanex i wasnt taking it every day but once a week usually on the weekends I would zombify myself with that stuff maybe 7-8 zanny bars on a saterday... Anyway my family took notice and decided to form a group effort to get me to rehab which surprisingly I agreed too( things had gotten so incredibly fucked up in my life and just every good relationship i had was destroyed... i actually sat down one day and thought to myself right before i went to rehab " i have absolutly no real friends , I've robbed cheated and stole my way through the past 3 months and im a huuuuge piece of shit" so the next day I go to rehab and its a serious rehab no one week type deal im talking months long rehab inpatient... they wein me off my suboxone in 4 days 24 mg down to zero in 4 days, which looking back on it was a huge mistake. Now the withdrawl I experienced from suboxone was much much muuch differnt then the ones I experienced from oxy and heroin and for me they didnt even start at all untill day 3 without any suboxone at all. I was not prepared at all for the prolonged, absolute misary I was about to experience I honestly cannot even put it into words nor would anyone who hasen't experienced withdrawl from prolonged suboxone use begain to even come close to understanding what its like by someone explaining it to them like myself, you just cant and would not be able to grasp what the experience for ME was like coming off of that stuff but ill try to inform you the best I can ... Absolute hell on planet earth to a point where I thought I was going to go absolutly insane... it starts out not bad at all for the first 2-3 days but this is because the half life of suboxone is relitivly long and I had alot of it in my system therefore it took about three days for the withdrawls to start to set in. Day 4-5 I felt alot of the similar effects as I did with oxy where I yawn every 30 seconds but I am not tired at all and at this point my eyes are watering perfusley my nose is running i cant really sit still but I dont feel like moving(if that makes any sense) and my anxiety level is at about a 5 out of 10 at this point I think im in the thick of it and ill be feeling better in 4-6 more days so my anxiety isnt to to bad.. I could not be more wrong. Day 6-9 i am still experiencing all of the same symptoms as previosuly listed except more intensly.. alot more intensly.. My eyes did not stop watering period for about 2 days, i didnt realize how much liquid could come out of your tear ducts. extremely hypersensitive to smell,sound and something I haden't experienced before with the oxy withdrawls as compared to suboxone I experienced a hypersensitivity to taste... everything i tried to eat or drink even water tasted absolutly rancid to the point where I literrally vommitted if I put anything in my mouth, this went on for about 5 days untill my body got used to the sensitivity to taste, I can also vividly remember how intensly restless I was at this point.. I could not stop moving at all because if I did my limbs really hurt and the only cure for that was to keep pacing or rocking or doing some movement of some sort, I also spent alot of time in the bath tub because for me that actually helpped I wish I could have just stayed in that tub for a month... I dont think i could have made it without that bath tub...day 10-14 was just more of the same absolute hell on planet earth for some reason i was not feeling any better and instead still progressivly feeling worse each day my anxiety level at this point was approching max... around this time maybe a little before i started not to be able to sleep at all so here i am experiencing these god aweful suboxone withdrawls and all you want to do is lay down and sleep and you cant because you cant stop moving ( legs and arm spasems, tossing and turning) its almost worth it to not even try to sleep looking back on it because there is nothing you can do or take to help you sleep in rehab( unless you can convince them to responsibly give you some sort of benzo in extreme moderation, other then that nothing helps at all... So you start to really worry and panic... i didnt sleep at all from around day 10-14 I was having auditory and visual hallucinations before finally i fell asleep and i couldnt tell you what day it was but i was very very grateful to have fallen asleep...this story is dragging on but basically my physical withdrawl symptoms from suboxone lasted around 27 days( the yawning,watering eyes, running nose,severe diariha,restless limb syndrom, ,hot and cold flashes,intense anxiety and panic you name it and suboxone withdrawl will deliver it... just all around absolute agonizing misery) and at that point(day 27 or so) is when i think I gradually started to feel better and it became more mental. By day 35 the physical withdrawls had pretty much subsided and I was able to comprehensivly reflect on what i had just endured. I can honestly say without a shadow of a doubt that my experience from suboxone withdrawl was the single most horrific,mind altering and at the same time enlightening experience of my entire life... I look back on that experience after being clean now and am glad i went through it but at the same time will never in a million years put myself through it again..if I could make one recomendation for anyone attempting to come off of that god aweful drug it would be to completely surrender yourself to the care of clean and sober professionals But you want to find clean sober professionals who themselves have experienced the horror of suboxone withdrawl because no one who hasent experienced it can possibly even begain to grasp what its like you HAVE to reasponsibly be given either ativan, lorasapam or alprasolam during days 10-20 or you will literally go insane and lose touch with reality.. its that bad. and if you want to do it yourself which i think might be close to impossible you want to wein yourself off of it very very very slowly over the corse of about 4 months untill you get down to 1 mg a day... then you can start trying to take 1 mg every other day and eventually a half a mg every other day untill your taking a half a milligram every 3-4 days. just stick with it and remember that you can do anything that you truely put your mind to and once you have experienced enough pain and suffering from drug abuse and adiction you willtruly put your mind to it, if you are still alive. good luck :)
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Wall of text. Summary of my experience follows:

I stopped 120 mg oxy cold turkey.

I got diarrhea and muscle aches.

big deal.

I stopped IV dilaudid

see above

opiates/opoids never did a thing for me, one way or the other.

I am now a pot head. I am much happier.
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


The withdrawal can be much worse for some individuals....

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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The withdrawal can be much worse for some individuals....
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Like many drug experiences, expectation plays an important role in how you repond to having the flu for a few days. OP sounds like he was suffering from the effects of long term dehydration and electrolyte imbalance for the last bit. Or they really want you to keep taking subloxone forever(~shudder~).

And, in OP's case after reading the wall...lack of supportive therapy, besides hydrotherapy (the tub)probably led to prolonged discomfort.

There are fairly safe non addictive pharma drugs that really help with the leg twitch problem and the anxiety. Naltrexone is used in various ways, the required late pm dosing schedule has always been to hard for me to follow with my erratic sleep habits.

Clonidine has been previously mentioned:
[link to www.nlm.nih.gov]

This is available over the counter:

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

DISCUSSION:

Acetyl-L-carnitine acted as an effective antihyperalgesic agent for relieving opiate-withdrawal hyperalgesia in animals and displayed clinical efficacy on other withdrawal symptoms such as muscular tension, muscular cramps, and insomnia. Considering its tolerability, the excellent side effect profile, the absence of significant interactions, and the lack of abuse potential, ALC can be considered as a useful pharmacological adjunct in the treatment of opiate withdrawal.


My withdrawl shopping checklist (yours may vary):

Pedialyte-at least a case (12 jugs)

[link to pedialyte.com]

hard candy (I like Preggo pops)

[link to www.amazon.com]

Immodium

L-carnatine liquid, tropical fruit flavor

[link to www.amazon.com]

(always check with your physician when starting any nutritional supplement)

When starting this process, preparation helps-you are not trying to punish yourself, you're trying to get through a simple physiological process of allowing your body to readjust to making its own opioids.

A good memory foam mattress topper, eye shades and ear plugs can also assist in achieving restful sleep, as can about a quarter oz of decent indica.


And don't watch Trainspotting!
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To add a very serious footnote to this thread...Since folks have been conditioned by the rehab industry to believe that "withdrawl" is what they see in the movies- Often people mistake serious illness for "continued withdrawl".

The two most common problems in heroin addicts which may be passed off as "withdrawl symptoms" are Hep C and heart damage

[link to www.mayoclinic.com]

Hepatitis C infection usually produces no signs or symptoms during its earliest stages. When signs and symptoms do occur, they're generally mild and flu-like and may include:
Fatigue
Fever
Nausea or poor appetite
Muscle and joint pains
Tenderness in the area of your liver


It is only common sense, if one has been "masking" the early symptoms of Hep C with repeated injections of heroin,or speed, going off heroin (or speed) will make the disease much more noticable.

If you have these symptoms, and they persist after discontinuing an injectable drug of abuse, get tested.

Heart damage from illict heroin use, like hep C, kidney damage etc. has nothing to do with heroin itself, but is the result of lack of sterility when injecting. Shortness of breath and ankle swelling may be noticable.

Anyone who is on opiates long term may develop the following, very painful condition, which may not resolve with withdrawl:


[link to www.integration.samhsa.gov]


[link to www.medscape.org]

Opioid-induced pain sensitivity is a phenomenon that we are only beginning to understand, according to Jianren Mao, MD, PhD, of the Massachusetts General Hospital Center for Translational Pain Research.[3] Many studies have reported that opioid administration causes an unanticipated hyperalgesia (enhanced pain response to noxious stimuli) and allodynia (pain elicited by innocuous stimuli) in both animals and humans.[1]

Preclinical research suggests that abnormal pain sensitivity such as hyperalgesia or allodynia occurs in the absence of overt opioid withdrawal in animals that have been administered opioid drugs. Opioid-induced hyperalgesia can occur with both acute and chronic opioid administration.[3] A paradoxic opioid-induced pain sensitivity may contribute to apparent opioid tolerance in humans because the individual must increase the analgesic dose to maintain the same effect or the duration of action of the opioid will decrease.[4] Both continuous infusion and bolus injections of opioids shift the analgesic dose-response curve to the right so that progressively higher opioid doses are required for the same analgesic effect



Opioid-induced pain sensitivity should not be confused with withdrawl, and may take years to clear up, if ever.
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The withdrawal can be much worse for some individuals....
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Like many drug experiences, expectation plays an important role in how you repond to having the flu for a few days. OP sounds like he was suffering from the effects of long term dehydration and electrolyte imbalance for the last bit. Or they really want you to keep taking subloxone forever(~shudder~).
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Well for me 10 years ago I had a major back operation that left me bed-ridden for a month following the surgery and I was prescribed oxycontin & oxycodone for pain management at my doctor's recommendation. I was prescribed 240 mg oxycontin a day (120mg every 12 hours) and after approx 35-45 days I weened all the way down to 10 mg every 12 hours before stopping completely. I had no knowledge of the substance/chemical prior to taking it following my surgery so I was completely in the dark about what to expect was going to come next.

What ensued were 2-3 weeks of awful & very uncomfortable withdrawal symptoms. The absolute worst part was not being able to sleep at all and tossing and turning endlessly for hours in bed each night with cold sweats and severe restless leg syndrome. It was no 2-3 day 'flu symptoms' for me and I have had very bad cases of the flu before that have lasted for weeks and that would have been a picnic in the park compared to what I experienced.

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What ensued were 2-3 weeks of awful & very uncomfortable withdrawal symptoms. The absolute worst part was not being able to sleep at all and tossing and turning endlessly for hours in bed each night with cold sweats and severe restless leg syndrome.
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Did you have spinal anesthesia, perchance? (goes to look and finds out they have declaired that cause of Akathisia invalid, so scratch that, unless they are wrong again:
[link to www.nejm.org]

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Let me go check for restless leg after spinal rod placement in specific...That said Oxy is evil, I do not know why they want us to use thebaine.

Check out this post surgical potential nightmare which might look like withdrawl:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.spineuniverse.com]


The predominant symptom of arachnoiditis is chronic and persistent pain in the lower back, lower limbs or, in severe cases, throughout the entire body. Other symptoms may include:
Tingling, numbness, or weakness in the legs
Bizarre sensations such as insects crawling on the skin or water trickling down the leg
Severe shooting pain (which some liken to an electric shock sensation)
Muscle cramps, spasms, and uncontrollable twitching
Bladder, bowel, and/or sexual dysfunction

If the disease progresses, symptoms may become more severe or even permanent. This disorder can be very debilitating, as the pain is constant and intractable. Most people with arachnoiditis are unable to work and have significant disability.


So many things that can go wrong. Looks like that can happen after surgery and resolve, as well.
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What ensued were 2-3 weeks of awful & very uncomfortable withdrawal symptoms. The absolute worst part was not being able to sleep at all and tossing and turning endlessly for hours in bed each night with cold sweats and severe restless leg syndrome.
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Did you have spinal anesthesia, perchance?
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I had rods fused to my spine during the operation. I was completely under for 10 hours. Unfortunately I didn't have any trippy experiences or OBE's during the surgery but my mind was definitely open to it.

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I made it halfway through before my eyes went crazy. I hope you can beat this stuff, been there - it's the worst thing imagineable. I'd rather die than go through it again. If you do get off - stay off!!!! Good luck man.
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Try going though pharma meds detox, its worst then opiates....
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What happened in your life that you need drugs to make you happy?
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The heriditary (fatal) neuropathy. Only thing that worked on my Dad at the end was Ketamine.

We've also had an almost black humor group of hangings (among affected family members), shootings and even the guy who offed himself with a sharpened butter knife to the femoral artery (that'll teach the wife to hide the guns!). I continue to live on, stubbornly, just to confuse my doctors. And re-edit my posts.

Every day is an adventure, kind of like being chased by lions through the veldt. Then caught, and chewed on a bit.stoner

Op, stay hydrated, you may wish to try Immodium for the bowel issues.
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I know what u mean. My family is riddled with mental health issues, and I inherited bi-polar and depression issues.

Gatorade is very good to drink to stay hydrated.:lkj:
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You are being swindeled.
The American Psychiatric Instituion was founded by nazis brought over after the war. Most "mental illnesses" are hoaxes created by them to label. Even worst there is no explanation on what causes them, do not buy into the bs that it is a chemical imbalance, there is NO PROOF OF THAT. And if they try and give you the excuse that you inherited it that is bs as well, targets are usually done from generation to generation.

Depression is just sadness it is not a mental illness, in fact now they want to label just being sad as a mental illness. And the severe cases like bi polar or schizo are straight up lies and if you suffer from symptoms like this chances are your being targeted and bombarded with mind control frequencys. At what age were you diagnosed?

And the meds they give you only make things worst and are chemicals that destroy your body and especially brain, its basically like a slow lobotomy.

Never trust a shrink and refuse to take the poison they try to give you. The meds will in fact make you do "crazier" stuff.

Dont beleive me? Read this:

[link to www.naturalnews.com]
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Fuck Subutex! I feel for you, OP, I really do. I quit it cold-turkey at 24 mg. per day. Holy shit... I'd rather be beaten with a baseball bat, every hour, on the hour, for a month. I didn't feel right for 3 months, and couldn't leave bed for a straight month. I'd eat about once a week, and couldn't sleep but maybe an hour every 3-4 days. I almost lost my mind!

It was the hardest psychological thing I've ever done, period, and I was in Army SpecOps later, where we did "hard" shit on a daily basis. My doctor put me on it for something other than opioid addiction, and I had no idea it was addictive. This doctor later ended up in prison for Medicaid fraud, and once even injected me with ketamine, telling me it was a "vitamin" shot...

Long story short, if you can afford it, I highly recommend RDUA (Rapid Detox Under Anaesthesia.) It really, truly works. I even quit smoking after I had it done.

This is all shit I read on the forumsd for people trying to get off this stuff: eat immodium like candy. It will help the physical WD's, which are far, far worse than the psychological WD's. Stay hydrated, and maybe take low-dose benzo's as SPARINGLY AS POSSIBLE, because they are very addictive, too. Neurontin/Lyrica are very helpful I hear, but likewise habit-forming. Effexor once a week can help, so you only need like 4 pills of that.

I even considered using morphine to taper, and just kicking that. It would suck, for sure, but the WD's from morphine would make Subutex WD look like a mild case of the flu. You'll beat it. Good luck.
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Question...if someone started taking the medication to relieve severe cronic pain, and then stops taking the meds so as to not be additicted to them...what about the severe cronic pain? What do you guys do about that?

Are the ones quitting and going through detox only those that abused the medication, and started taking more than prescribed? Or, are people just deciding to stop taking the meds, to hell with the pain?
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Wall of text. Summary of my experience follows:

I stopped 120 mg oxy cold turkey.

I got diarrhea and muscle aches.

big deal.

I stopped IV dilaudid

see above

opiates/opoids never did a thing for me, one way or the other.

I am now a pot head. I am much happier.
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


The withdrawal can be much worse for some individuals....
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I made it halfway through before my eyes went crazy. I hope you can beat this stuff, been there - it's the worst thing imagineable. I'd rather die than go through it again. If you do get off - stay off!!!! Good luck man.
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Try going though pharma meds detox, its worst then opiates....
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SSRI withdrawl. That is awful. The electric shock pain...I'd rather shit my brains out for the next six weeks than get off of Paxil again.
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After a certain age, say 68 with cancer, just take the pills.

Younger? You can learn to live with the pain. Don't be a little bitch about it. eh?
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I made it halfway through before my eyes went crazy. I hope you can beat this stuff, been there - it's the worst thing imagineable. I'd rather die than go through it again. If you do get off - stay off!!!! Good luck man.
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Try going though pharma meds detox, its worst then opiates....
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SSRI withdrawl. That is awful. The electric shock pain...I'd rather shit my brains out for the next six weeks than get off of Paxil again.
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That's what makes tramadol such a bitch. You get the SNRI antidepressant withdrawal (brain zaps) in addition to the physical opiate withdrawal.
I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain.
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Re: response to the worst opiate withdrawl
Lord, we all suffer so much to feel good. That is why I believe weed is "the lesser of evils."

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Subutex/suboxone is a bitch to come off. Good luck my friend.
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Re: response to the worst opiate withdrawl
Wall of text. Summary of my experience follows:

I stopped 120 mg oxy cold turkey.

I got diarrhea and muscle aches.

big deal.

I stopped IV dilaudid

see above

opiates/opoids never did a thing for me, one way or the other.

I am now a pot head. I am much happier.
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What happened in your life that you need drugs to make you happy?
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What happened in your life that you need to spend twelve hours a day trolling GLP to make you happy?
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What happened in your life that you need to spend twelve hours a day trolling GLP to make you happy?
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rofl Because the trolls here are of the absolute highest quality imaginable. If only I was able to maintain that sort of mental agility. Unfortunately, I am woefuly inadequate to the task of being a GLP troll, so I will simply post some links in a semi confused manner.

A serious issue in rehab is lack of real health care. If you're still in physical pain weeks after stopping an opiate or opoid, something may be wrong.

Untreated pain may cause you to restart drugs of abuse, this can be a problem.

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