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Comet ISON S1 C/2012 WTF NASA??? Part 2 : HOW BIG IS THIS COMET???

 
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This series of LASCO images made into a movie has been intentionally censored and I have the real images to prove it.

There are many frames missing and the really good stuff is not shown at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous astro, 1367896


i'd love to see those frames, any chance you could upload them somewhere and link in this thread?

between the sundiving comets producing large cmes and lovejoy havin fun i can't see why nasa wouldn't be hyping this stuff to create excitement in science, unless they had something big to hide...
rhombus will set you free...

some try to tell me thoughts they cannot defend. just what you want to be, you will be in the end!

if you can't face the truth it's probably raping you from behind.
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Google itself and even google sky is irrelevant. I used it to distribute the data easily so that even a complete moron can work with it.
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You have no room to be condescending. You are a complete idiot. You don't even know what a star really is. When you do, get back with me and we will talk.
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Tell you what Astromutt, get hold of a IR telescope and report back with footage of comet ISON.
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Tell you what Astromutt, get hold of a IR telescope and report back with footage of comet ISON.
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Ohhhh wait. You cant no matter how much ££ or $$ you have!
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NO DOOM ... yawn
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'Vixen VC200L VISAC Vixen Sixth-Order Aspherical Cassegrain Telescope with Flip Mirror, Mount rail and 7x50 IR Finderscope
Model 72632'

[link to www.365astronomy.com]

Love it how it's only the spotter ;). Dont feed me the "it's to expensive excuse" ;)
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Btw astromutt is the amature astronomer that has a laptop which gets slowed down by youtube videos......
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They're called "stars"

 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Name ONE of them, just for the hell of it,
 Quoting: Anonymous astro, 1367896

Here are the labeled positions and names for the two brightest stars in the field of view.
[link to nova.astrometry.net]
or name a constellation they are a part of or in the general direction of the source of this image.
 Quoting: IDW

I gave you the exact coordinates of the image already. Thanks for proving how clueless you are about astronomy. By the way, those coordinates fall within the borders of Auriga, but it's very close to Gemini.
and if you knew half of what I know you would know that you can astrometrically solve the image for yourself

 Quoting: Dr. Astro

I am guessing if you knew 1/10th what you claim you do you would probably know how to spell astronomically. There is no word astrometrically to my knowledge.
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No dumbass, I meant astrometrically, not "astronomically." Thanks for proving once again (as if we needed more proof) you know less about astronomy than me, you're not even familiar with the concept of astrometry.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"Astrometry is responsible for the detection of many record-breaking solar system objects. To find such objects astrometrically, astronomers use telescopes to survey the sky and large-area cameras to take pictures at various determined intervals. By studying these images, they can detect solar system objects by their movements relative to the background stars, which remain fixed."
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Tell you what Astromutt, get hold of a IR telescope and report back with footage of comet ISON.
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Already did.

There's not much to see.
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Btw astromutt is the amature astronomer that has a laptop which gets slowed down by youtube videos......
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When people post huge threads filled with embedded youtube videos, yes it slows down my old laptop. So what? I use an old laptop in the field for a good reason; if it gets damaged or water condensation from dew ruins it, it's not a big loss financially and can be cheaply replaced.
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Tell you what Astromutt, get hold of a IR telescope and report back with footage of comet ISON.
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Ohhhh wait. You cant no matter how much ££ or $$ you have!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37796173


Wrong.
[link to www.youtube.com]
Even my own personal telescope can do IR.
m42infraredbw
So fuck off.
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Tell you what Astromutt, get hold of a IR telescope and report back with footage of comet ISON.
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Already did.

There's not much to see.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


LOL....Wait the guy who's laptop gets slowed down by youtube vids has manage to buy a IR telescope?

Or is this the GLP telescope?.....The one that dissalows any contradictory comments on this very site? Futhermore DELETES any threads that give evidence?
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Btw astromutt is the amature astronomer that has a laptop which gets slowed down by youtube videos......
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When people post huge threads filled with embedded youtube videos, yes it slows down my old laptop. So what? I use an old laptop in the field for a good reason; if it gets damaged or water condensation from dew ruins it, it's not a big loss financially and can be cheaply replaced.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro
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ASSclown = Fail Lol. Now get off this thread Phil...
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And regarding the gif animation with the comet and stars next to it within the circle.

 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You use Google Sky? Seriously.....Have you looked at who owns google?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37796173


Google itself and even google sky is irrelevant. I used it to distribute the data easily so that even a complete moron can work with it. Most people don't have the software already on their computer to work with raw fits files, or I would distribute a fits file with embedded WCS data instead. The only important point is that the stars in the circle are just background stars. What, you thought google took that image for google sky? Hell no, like I said, it's a sky survey image USED by google sky, it long predates google sky. You want a WCS embedded FITS instead so that you can compare directly with sky survey data without using google? Here, be my guest:
[link to nova.astrometry.net]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


How is it irrelivant? You think the owners with billions of $$££ are going to show whats realy going on? Are you that naive?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37796173

It's irrelevant, they're just using pre-existing sky survey images. I distributed it in that form so that idiots like you could use it. Clearly you're incapable of using the WCS embedded fits file I just so kindly gave you, which is why you're still bitching at me about nonsense. You don't have to use google at all. With that fits file you can cross-reference it with any survey data you like.
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Tell you what Astromutt, get hold of a IR telescope and report back with footage of comet ISON.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37796173


Already did.

There's not much to see.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


LOL....Wait the guy who's laptop gets slowed down by youtube vids has manage to buy a IR telescope?

Or is this the GLP telescope?.....The one that dissalows any contradictory comments on this very site? Futhermore DELETES any threads that give evidence?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37796173

My threads give evidence all the time, I just shoved more evidence in your face, I don't see it being deleted. I use an old laptop for astronomy for a reason. I don't dare risk a new shiny one to the rough conditions I put it through in the field.
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Btw astromutt is the amature astronomer that has a laptop which gets slowed down by youtube videos......
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When people post huge threads filled with embedded youtube videos, yes it slows down my old laptop. So what? I use an old laptop in the field for a good reason; if it gets damaged or water condensation from dew ruins it, it's not a big loss financially and can be cheaply replaced.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro
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ASSclown = Fail Lol. Now get off this thread Phil...
 Quoting: FOTN


My name is not "Phil." You wouldn't know what to do with my equipment if your life depended on it.
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Im going away lol, btw your source code on BB gives it away ;)
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Im going away lol, btw your source code on BB gives it away ;)
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What source code?
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Btw astromutt is the amature astronomer that has a laptop which gets slowed down by youtube videos......
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When people post huge threads filled with embedded youtube videos, yes it slows down my old laptop. So what? I use an old laptop in the field for a good reason; if it gets damaged or water condensation from dew ruins it, it's not a big loss financially and can be cheaply replaced.
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ASSclown = Fail Lol. Now get off this thread Phil...
 Quoting: FOTN


My name is not "Phil." You wouldn't know what to do with my equipment if your life depended on it.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You are Phil Plait from " Bad Astronomy". Also Phil rhymes with Shill- how fitting...
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They're called "stars"

 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Name ONE of them, just for the hell of it,
 Quoting: Anonymous astro, 1367896

Here are the labeled positions and names for the two brightest stars in the field of view.
[link to nova.astrometry.net]
or name a constellation they are a part of or in the general direction of the source of this image.
 Quoting: IDW

I gave you the exact coordinates of the image already. Thanks for proving how clueless you are about astronomy. By the way, those coordinates fall within the borders of Auriga, but it's very close to Gemini.
and if you knew half of what I know you would know that you can astrometrically solve the image for yourself

 Quoting: Dr. Astro

I am guessing if you knew 1/10th what you claim you do you would probably know how to spell astronomically. There is no word astrometrically to my knowledge.
 Quoting: IDW

No dumbass, I meant astrometrically, not "astronomically." Thanks for proving once again (as if we needed more proof) you know less about astronomy than me, you're not even familiar with the concept of astrometry.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"Astrometry is responsible for the detection of many record-breaking solar system objects. To find such objects astrometrically, astronomers use telescopes to survey the sky and large-area cameras to take pictures at various determined intervals. By studying these images, they can detect solar system objects by their movements relative to the background stars, which remain fixed."
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Why did you feel the need to have me banned?

There is no such word as astrometically. It isn't in the dictionary and it does not exist as word in any publication.
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Im going away lol, btw your source code on BB gives it away ;)
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What source code?
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You're dumb enough to be Phil Plait. You're a fag, too. That's obvious. And you don't know shit from shinola about the subject matter you espouse to
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WIKIPEDIA IS NOT a legitimate reference and can be edited by disinformation ops at will. That is what it is there for.
This is well known by nearly everyone. Look up the word in a dictionary or put it through any spell checking program and see if it is a word. You fucking bafoon

Now explain hydrogen fusion to us again!
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They're called "stars"

 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Name ONE of them, just for the hell of it,
 Quoting: Anonymous astro, 1367896

Here are the labeled positions and names for the two brightest stars in the field of view.
[link to nova.astrometry.net]
or name a constellation they are a part of or in the general direction of the source of this image.
 Quoting: IDW

I gave you the exact coordinates of the image already. Thanks for proving how clueless you are about astronomy. By the way, those coordinates fall within the borders of Auriga, but it's very close to Gemini.
and if you knew half of what I know you would know that you can astrometrically solve the image for yourself

 Quoting: Dr. Astro

I am guessing if you knew 1/10th what you claim you do you would probably know how to spell astronomically. There is no word astrometrically to my knowledge.
 Quoting: IDW

No dumbass, I meant astrometrically, not "astronomically." Thanks for proving once again (as if we needed more proof) you know less about astronomy than me, you're not even familiar with the concept of astrometry.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"Astrometry is responsible for the detection of many record-breaking solar system objects. To find such objects astrometrically, astronomers use telescopes to survey the sky and large-area cameras to take pictures at various determined intervals. By studying these images, they can detect solar system objects by their movements relative to the background stars, which remain fixed."
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Why did you feel the need to have me banned?
 Quoting: A. Astrophysicist 1314385

Why did you feel the need to threaten to cut my knees off?
There is no such word as astrometically. It isn't in the dictionary and it does not exist as word in any publication.
 Quoting: IDW

[link to dictionary.reference.com]
[link to www.lexic.us]
[link to nicedefinition.com]

"The Hipparcos Star Globe depicts the celestial sphere that was astrometrically viewed as a whole for the first time by the Hipparcos satellite."
[link to sci.esa.int]

"For this analysis, we investigate the dependence of the uncertainty of astrometrically determined angular Einstein ring radius, δθE/ θE,0), on the lens parameters by testing various types of events."
[link to mnras.oxfordjournals.org]

Once again IDW is proven completely wrong.
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Look up the word in a dictionary or put it through any spell checking program and see if it is a word. You fucking bafoon
 Quoting: A. Astrophysicist 1314385


Yeah, because "spell checkers" are the final authority on technical terminology. You are such an idiot. That sounds about right though, your technical knowledge in astronomy is about as deep as your spell checker.

[link to dictionary.reference.com]
[link to www.lexic.us]
[link to nicedefinition.com]

"The Hipparcos Star Globe depicts the celestial sphere that was astrometrically viewed as a whole for the first time by the Hipparcos satellite."
[link to sci.esa.int]

"For this analysis, we investigate the dependence of the uncertainty of astrometrically determined angular Einstein ring radius, δθE/ θE,0), on the lens parameters by testing various types of events."
[link to mnras.oxfordjournals.org]

"Over one night, we achieve an astrometric precision typically well below 1 mas and occasionally as small as 40 μas. Such a precision is in principle sufficient to astrometrically detect planetary mass objects around the components of nearby binary and multiple stars."
[link to mnras.oxfordjournals.org]

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No dumbass, I meant astrometrically, not "astronomically."
 Quoting: ASStroll


why can't you seem to spell words fundamental to the discipline of astronomy?

lmao
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No dumbass, I meant astrometrically, not "astronomically."
 Quoting: ASStroll


why can't you seem to spell words fundamental to the discipline of astronomy?

lmao
 Quoting: A. Astrophysicist 1314385


hahaha
You don't even know what astrometry is and you have the gall to accuse me of "misspelling" "astronomically" when I deliberately meant astrometrically?

[link to dictionary.reference.com]
[link to www.lexic.us]
[link to nicedefinition.com]

"The Hipparcos Star Globe depicts the celestial sphere that was astrometrically viewed as a whole for the first time by the Hipparcos satellite."
[link to sci.esa.int]

"For this analysis, we investigate the dependence of the uncertainty of astrometrically determined angular Einstein ring radius, δθE/ θE,0), on the lens parameters by testing various types of events."
[link to mnras.oxfordjournals.org]

"Over one night, we achieve an astrometric precision typically well below 1 mas and occasionally as small as 40 μas. Such a precision is in principle sufficient to astrometrically detect planetary mass objects around the components of nearby binary and multiple stars."
[link to mnras.oxfordjournals.org]

How many more non-Wikipedia references would you like, eh dipshit?
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Im going away lol, btw your source code on BB gives it away ;)
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What source code?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I know who you are, and I clearly stated I was speaking metaphorically when I said I was going to cut you off at the knees and you can't be dumb enough nor to know what a metaphor is.

The problem is I DID cut you off at the knees intellectually, isn't it?
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Im going away lol, btw your source code on BB gives it away ;)
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What source code?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I know who you are,
 Quoting: A. Astrophysicist 1314385

Apparently not if you think I have "source code" on "BB" whatever that is.
The problem is I DID cut you off at the knees intellectually, isn't it?
 Quoting: IDW

No, in fact you just got done exposing your complete ignorance of astrometry.
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And regarding the gif animation with the comet and stars next to it within the circle.

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Good enough for government work isn't going to cut it with me in the house. Get lost, or have me banned, or I am going to cut you off at the knees you brainless fucktard
 Quoting: Anonymous astro, 1367896


Just to make it clear I am speaking metaphorically concerning our relative intellectual prowess, don't be childish and call this some kind of threat of physical violence. I know how desperate and dishonest you fucks can be.
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