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Why do people still belive in the Holocaust?

 
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The main reason for why most people believe in the Holocaust is that they want to believe it. It is a form of “group thinking” which bonds them with so many others–--and totally liberates them from any guilt feelings for their own moral depravity and heinous crimes.

The Anglo-American mass incineration of countless innocent women and children mean nothing if the other side did worse things. The facts are that even if the holocaust were true, the crimes committed by the Allies, especially the US, are far worse than anything the Nazis are even accused of committing.

Why do people continue to espouse forensically refuted lies even after being confronted with the incontrovertible facts that refute them?

Because you can’t convince a true-believer of anything - for their beliefs are not based on science and reason - they’re based on blind faith and a weak-willed NEED to believe. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool critical thinkers - but rather; Only to give self-deceiving cowards an excuse not to think at all.

Cognitive dissonance theory explains human behavior by positing that people have a bias to seek consonance between their expectations and reality. According to Festinger, people engage in a process he termed "dissonance reduction", which can be achieved in one of three ways: lowering the importance of one of the discordant factors, adding consonant elements, or changing one of the dissonant factors. This bias sheds light on otherwise puzzling, irrational, and even destructive behavior, such as belief in fairy tales.
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The first time you enter public school they will force you to believe the holocaust was the worst thing.

It's a jew agenda thing, to make the jew look peacefull.
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I find europe a very ugly land design specialy upside down with Scandinavië.

And canada sucks.
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With modern forensic technology, it would be disproven in minutes, yet there is a large segment of the world who actually still believe it happened.

It truly is the "need to believe", just like as children we need to believe in Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy.

It is amazing to just sit back and watch people defend this tale as if their life depended on it.
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Why did some coward give this one star without even having the balls to support his position?

Typical believer.
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Re: Why do people still belive in the Holocaust?
The main reason
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It's because there are just too many photographs and footage about it. You can't ignore them. You can't just say "no, it didn't happen - or else, you have to have some very good reasons.
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The main reasons that proof, that there was no HOLOCAUST:

GO!

Convince me!

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The main reason for why most people believe in the Holocaust is that they want to believe it. It is a form of “group thinking” which bonds them with so many others–--and totally liberates them from any guilt feelings for their own moral depravity and heinous crimes.

The Anglo-American mass incineration of countless innocent women and children mean nothing if the other side did worse things. The facts are that even if the holocaust were true, the crimes committed by the Allies, especially the US, are far worse than anything the Nazis are even accused of committing.

Why do people continue to espouse forensically refuted lies even after being confronted with the incontrovertible facts that refute them?

Because you can’t convince a true-believer of anything - for their beliefs are not based on science and reason - they’re based on blind faith and a weak-willed NEED to believe. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool critical thinkers - but rather; Only to give self-deceiving cowards an excuse not to think at all.

Cognitive dissonance theory explains human behavior by positing that people have a bias to seek consonance between their expectations and reality. According to Festinger, people engage in a process he termed "dissonance reduction", which can be achieved in one of three ways: lowering the importance of one of the discordant factors, adding consonant elements, or changing one of the dissonant factors. This bias sheds light on otherwise puzzling, irrational, and even destructive behavior, such as belief in fairy tales.
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Have you ever met somebody who survived a concentration camp?
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So now that very few eye witnesses are still alive, its time for OP to play the revisionism game? putin
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Because it is a hope that all this enslaving system changes or simply ends.
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Re: Why do people still belive in the Holocaust?
Because Mustafa Kemal Atatürk murdered them all, that's why...or do you think they were just engaging in the "relocation" of Armenians for "security reasons"?

Oh, wait, are we not talking about the Armenians?
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Re: Why do people still belive in the Holocaust?
The main reason for why most people believe in the Holocaust is that they want to believe it. It is a form of “group thinking” which bonds them with so many others–--and totally liberates them from any guilt feelings for their own moral depravity and heinous crimes.

The Anglo-American mass incineration of countless innocent women and children mean nothing if the other side did worse things. The facts are that even if the holocaust were true, the crimes committed by the Allies, especially the US, are far worse than anything the Nazis are even accused of committing.

Why do people continue to espouse forensically refuted lies even after being confronted with the incontrovertible facts that refute them?

Because you can’t convince a true-believer of anything - for their beliefs are not based on science and reason - they’re based on blind faith and a weak-willed NEED to believe. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool critical thinkers - but rather; Only to give self-deceiving cowards an excuse not to think at all.

Cognitive dissonance theory explains human behavior by positing that people have a bias to seek consonance between their expectations and reality. According to Festinger, people engage in a process he termed "dissonance reduction", which can be achieved in one of three ways: lowering the importance of one of the discordant factors, adding consonant elements, or changing one of the dissonant factors. This bias sheds light on otherwise puzzling, irrational, and even destructive behavior, such as belief in fairy tales.
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Have you ever met somebody who survived a concentration camp?
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Plenty! And there number seems to grow every year.

It's quite amusing to see so many "Holocaust survivors" from the "dead camps", don't you think?

Now, to answer the OP's question, I think one of the main reasons is that it is criminal to deny the Holocaust in some countries.

You look better in the eyes of the masses when you're heavily opposed to Holocaust deniers.

Very smart hoax!
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The Holocaust did happen, but the numbers are a little hard to prove.

None the less... Why dont Christians get all bent out of shape? No one mentions the 20 million European Christians who died.

What about the 20 million Russians? They dont cry, and we are not forced to lean their story of WW2.




What I am saying is So fucking what!?
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The Holocaust did happen, but the numbers are a little hard to prove.

None the less... Why dont Christians get all bent out of shape? No one mentions the 20 million European Christians who died.

What about the 20 million Russians? They dont cry, and we are not forced to lean their story of WW2.




What I am saying is So fucking what!?
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What I am trying to say is that war is terrible. People die in war.

50 million people died in WW2. Why are the Jews placed on some kind of alter because they died, yet no one else is?

What about the Americans, French, Germans, Japanese, Polish, Russian etc.? No one cares about them, right?
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Surviving a concentration camp does not make a Holocaust, nor do photographs.
What we are discussing here is the systematic gassing and disposing of many 100's of thousands of Jews.

It is absurd and I would have thought that no rational person could actually believe this anymore.

It's easy to say "talk to a survivor" but what would they say? How can we be sure their memory is accurate, not skewed by Hollywood movies or even being just another self aggrandizing promoter like Irene Weisberg Zisblatt...who claimed that she escaped from inside a gas chamber.

She barely avoided having her unblemished skin turned into a lampshade.

Doctor Mengele removed her tattoo.

She was thrown over the electrified barbed wire at the camps after escaping the gas chamber, naked, onto a train to another camp.

A Nazi nurse gave her a phony lethal injection, (1995 - Today)

She repeatedly swallowed and defecated four diamonds for almost a year and a half while an inmate of the German concentration camps....and after the war she had them made into a diamond ring.

What do you think?
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wth

ROFL i got 2 bad karma votes for the above opinion. Well that's sad. One red vote " Why the hate?" Well I dont hate jews you moron. It's a fact that you get brainwashed into believing crap.

If you give red, give you name to. Cowards.

And the other red one is just cruise

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:wth:

ROFL i got 2 bad karma votes for the above opinion. Well that's sad. One red vote " Why the hate?" Well I dont hate jews you moron. It's a fact that you get brainwashed into believing crap.

If you give red, give you name to. Cowards.

And the other red one is just cruise
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Unfortunately, it is the modus operandi of those who blindly believe in the Holocaust. No courage to publicly speak their convictions. Of course, I am no one to talk because I am posting anonymously as well, but even so, I would not give bad karma for those who disagree with me.

All I am asking is for someone to stand up and explain their irrational beliefs regarding this singular event. It needn't be confrontational, I just want to understand what makes people believe in strange things.

To me, this is in the same realm with Grimm's Fairy Tales, Santa Claus and alien abduction.
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The bigger question is, why do semi intelligent human beings still believe the b.s theories that come from a part of the world with an average IQ of 85?
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The silence speaks volumes.
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Because, there's No Business, Like Shoah Business!

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Re: Why do people still belive in the Holocaust?
The Holocaust did happen, but the numbers are a little hard to prove.

None the less... Why dont Christians get all bent out of shape? No one mentions the 20 million European Christians who died.

What about the 20 million Russians? They dont cry, and we are not forced to lean their story of WW2.




What I am saying is So fucking what!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18723832


What I am trying to say is that war is terrible. People die in war.

50 million people died in WW2. Why are the Jews placed on some kind of alter because they died, yet no one else is?

What about the Americans, French, Germans, Japanese, Polish, Russian etc.? No one cares about them, right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18723832


none of the others were deliberately killed simply by the religion that they happened to be born into. everyone's death counts the same, it's the circumstances that are different
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Surviving a concentration camp does not make a Holocaust, nor do photographs.
What we are discussing here is the systematic gassing and disposing of many 100's of thousands of Jews.

It is absurd and I would have thought that no rational person could actually believe this anymore.

It's easy to say "talk to a survivor" but what would they say? How can we be sure their memory is accurate, not skewed by Hollywood movies or even being just another self aggrandizing promoter like Irene Weisberg Zisblatt...who claimed that she escaped from inside a gas chamber.

She barely avoided having her unblemished skin turned into a lampshade.

Doctor Mengele removed her tattoo.

She was thrown over the electrified barbed wire at the camps after escaping the gas chamber, naked, onto a train to another camp.

A Nazi nurse gave her a phony lethal injection, (1995 - Today)

She repeatedly swallowed and defecated four diamonds for almost a year and a half while an inmate of the German concentration camps....and after the war she had them made into a diamond ring.

What do you think?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30356553


yeah, you must be right. they all died of typhus. noone was intentionally harmed. not a single jew was put to death on purpose.
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You could say the civil war didn't happen... Talk to any eyewitnesses?
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when it is illegal to talk about, there is something being hidden!!
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The main reason for why most people believe in the Holocaust is that they want to believe it. It is a form of “group thinking” which bonds them with so many others–--and totally liberates them from any guilt feelings for their own moral depravity and heinous crimes.

The Anglo-American mass incineration of countless innocent women and children mean nothing if the other side did worse things. The facts are that even if the holocaust were true, the crimes committed by the Allies, especially the US, are far worse than anything the Nazis are even accused of committing.

Why do people continue to espouse forensically refuted lies even after being confronted with the incontrovertible facts that refute them?

Because you can’t convince a true-believer of anything - for their beliefs are not based on science and reason - they’re based on blind faith and a weak-willed NEED to believe. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool critical thinkers - but rather; Only to give self-deceiving cowards an excuse not to think at all.

Cognitive dissonance theory explains human behavior by positing that people have a bias to seek consonance between their expectations and reality. According to Festinger, people engage in a process he termed "dissonance reduction", which can be achieved in one of three ways: lowering the importance of one of the discordant factors, adding consonant elements, or changing one of the dissonant factors. This bias sheds light on otherwise puzzling, irrational, and even destructive behavior, such as belief in fairy tales.
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The best reason is; because it's TRUE!
Only fools believe the lies spread by Haters.
Then try to "rationalize", why others won't believe in the lie.
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Failure to research. Many people in Europe have been jailed for researching the truth; the contrived story of 6 million. You will know who owns you by the very fact that you cannot openly discuss them, or in this case, research what really happened.

The very ones that wrote the false history are the ones today that run government, banking, all forms of media, educational institutions (connected with History Books), religious institution, Federal Reserve (1913), American Defamation League (1913), etc..

Check out the power of the American Defamation League, and how they are part of our educational system, brainwashing generations for over 100 years.


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Re: Why do people still belive in the Holocaust?
Dresden was a true holocaust, burned alive, not even 'gassed' first.

Toyoko was a true holocaust, burned alive, not even 'gassed' first.

London was a true holocaust, for the same reason,

Hamburg was true holocaust, for the same reason,

Berlin was a true holocaust, Aschiwtiz was not.

Hiroshima was a true holocaust.

Nagaskai was a true holocaust.
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Re: Why do people still belive in the Holocaust?
Why the Op and other People do not speak/spoke with
the People "who participate" the Holocaust?

To talk with Victims is one Side
but to get the full truth you need to listen
to both Sides!

I can tell you: "Yes, the Holocaust happened"
but Gas Chambers are only a tiny Part of the it,
the Holocaust is a "Toetungsmaschinerie"
organised by a highly bureaucratic System
that let not much space for escape!
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OP, my grandmother survived Auschwitz. Her parents and a dozen other relatives did not. This wasn't a bedtime Story from her, i saw her number on her arm. So, OP i recommend you to STFU.

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