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DEMPSEY: North Korea Putting Nuke On Missile Classified, 'Must Assume Worst Case'... NK Analyst, 'War on Peninsula is 70-80%'!!!

 
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Only the GLP Quantum Effect can stop the Korean war now! lol
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The odds will slowly grow to 100% in the next 2 weeks.

15th of April is just for idiots.
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i read the full article from him an hour ago on german news, is there an english version? everybody here should read this, this is not just this empty sentence, seems like he really knows what he is talking about!
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Can you link to the German story please?
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i read the full article from him an hour ago on german news, is there an english version? everybody here should read this, this is not just this empty sentence, seems like he really knows what he is talking about!
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Can you link to the German story please?
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[link to translate.google.de]

translated via google translator, hope you can read it
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You better pray that it doesn't go nuclear. We are in a global Mexican standoff, and any nuclear strike will immediately trigger preemptive and retaliator strikes across the board.

That means Pakistan, India, Israel, China, Russia, Europe, USA all launching simultaneously. Did I miss anybody? Does it matter?
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Raymond Pritchett @Galrahn 11m
John Kerry has a tremendous opportunity to reorganize Pacific security if China and North Korea relations continue to decline.




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Does the decline of DPRK-China relations represent an early sign North Korea has miscalculated, and may continue to do so?




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@jstogdill his alignment is clearly with hard liners, but it's unclear if that alignment is by choice or by pressure.
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You better pray that it doesn't go nuclear. We are in a global Mexican standoff, and any nuclear strike will immediately trigger preemptive and retaliator strikes across the board.

That means Pakistan, India, Israel, China, Russia, Europe, USA all launching simultaneously. Did I miss anybody? Does it matter?
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Why would an NK nuclear strike automatically trigger such a huge chain of nuclear responses?

Say hypothetically NK successfully nuked Seoul and USA used small enough nukes to cripple them but not big enough to send significant radiation to China. As long as the USA retaliation only affected NK would other nations really respond with nuclear weapons?
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You better pray that it doesn't go nuclear. We are in a global Mexican standoff, and any nuclear strike will immediately trigger preemptive and retaliator strikes across the board.

That means Pakistan, India, Israel, China, Russia, Europe, USA all launching simultaneously. Did I miss anybody? Does it matter?
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


Why would an NK nuclear strike automatically trigger such a huge chain of nuclear responses?

Say hypothetically NK successfully nuked Seoul and USA used small enough nukes to cripple them but not big enough to send significant radiation to China. As long as the USA retaliation only affected NK would other nations really respond with nuclear weapons?
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You're right I think. It wouldn't automatically trigger some global nuclear holocaust. But crossing the nuclear threshold, would make it more likely that any other countries which are dragged in, would also use nuclear weapons.
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You better pray that it doesn't go nuclear. We are in a global Mexican standoff, and any nuclear strike will immediately trigger preemptive and retaliator strikes across the board.

That means Pakistan, India, Israel, China, Russia, Europe, USA all launching simultaneously. Did I miss anybody? Does it matter?
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


Why would an NK nuclear strike automatically trigger such a huge chain of nuclear responses?

Say hypothetically NK successfully nuked Seoul and USA used small enough nukes to cripple them but not big enough to send significant radiation to China. As long as the USA retaliation only affected NK would other nations really respond with nuclear weapons?
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Any nuclear exchange will most probably result in a series of escalations that will spiral out of control, setting off exchanges between enemies utilizing a "use it or lose it" philosophy. Then, there will be exchanges among the treaty allies of the relevant nuclear powers and their allies. This continues until most of the planets' nuclear weapons are exhausted. There are no "limited nuclear war" calculations. Remember this: Whatever can go wrong, will go wrong. If you think that any nation can conduct limited nuclear strikes, you are DEAD wrong.

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@TheReallyRick if they have fueled the missiles, 95% they launch soon. The fuel becomes corrosive after about 10 days.@ISNJH
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If the trade between the west and east stops...China will collapse.
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In March, in New York there was a secret meeting of North Korea and the United States. (Source: The Foreign Policy Journal).

The U.S. were represented by Clifford Hart (he represents the country in the six-party talks on the denuclearization of North Korea), and North Korea sent it’s deputy permanent representative to the UN, Han Song Rel. The meeting was held in the framework of the "New York channel" of interaction between the U.S. and North Korea in absence of formal diplomatic relations.

And then, on Monday it was reported that North Korea may be preparing for the fourth nuclear test, and U.S. and South Korea agreed on a symmetric counterattack in case of aggression from Pyongyang.

ATTN: In mid-March, the NK secretly meets with the U.S., and in April NK suddenly starts banging its shoe on the table – a coincidence? Hardly ... The whole performance with NK threats is playing out the U.S. scenario to justify the deployment of military forces to the border with China and the presence of naval ships there.
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U.S JOINT CHIEF OF STAFF DEMPSEY SAYS N. KOREA ABILITY TO PUT NUKE ON MISSILE IS CLASSIFIED BUT HAVE TO ASSUME THE WORST CASE
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U.S JOINT CHIEF OF STAFF DEMPSEY SAYS N. KOREA ABILITY TO PUT NUKE ON MISSILE IS CLASSIFIED BUT HAVE TO ASSUME THE WORST CASE
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hmmmmm
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There is no announced flight path for a ballistic missile launch. Usually there is an exclusion zone that warns commercial ships and planes.
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@Galrahn x2 I have been noting this for last few days, they have not announced any when they normally announce a week in advance or 4 days.
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The tipping point. C'mon kids . It's bedtime time. Put all your toys away.
Fuck me...if this shite goes atomic/nuclear, we are well and truly fucked...
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U.S JOINT CHIEF OF STAFF DEMPSEY SAYS N. KOREA ABILITY TO PUT NUKE ON MISSILE IS CLASSIFIED BUT HAVE TO ASSUME THE WORST CASE
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That statement alone speaks volumes.
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U.S JOINT CHIEF OF STAFF DEMPSEY SAYS N. KOREA ABILITY TO PUT NUKE ON MISSILE IS CLASSIFIED BUT HAVE TO ASSUME THE WORST CASE
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That statement alone speaks volumes.
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Yep
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Assume the worst case from Dempsey? Oh boy, shit just got real ...real.
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There is no announced flight path for a ballistic missile launch. Usually there is an exclusion zone that warns commercial ships and planes.

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What are your thoughts on this GLP? North Korea usually lets it known and gives a warning.... This time, nothing...
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There is no announced flight path for a ballistic missile launch. Usually there is an exclusion zone that warns commercial ships and planes.

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What are your thoughts on this GLP? North Korea usually lets it known and gives a warning.... This time, nothing...
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They've gone totally rogue and are dismissing all protocol. This is a bad sign.
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There is no announced flight path for a ballistic missile launch. Usually there is an exclusion zone that warns commercial ships and planes.

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What are your thoughts on this GLP? North Korea usually lets it known and gives a warning.... This time, nothing...
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trouble
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I was always thinking these missile tests would be a nuke on a medium ranged missile... Another "surprise" to our intelligence agencies..
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There is no announced flight path for a ballistic missile launch. Usually there is an exclusion zone that warns commercial ships and planes.

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What are your thoughts on this GLP? North Korea usually lets it known and gives a warning.... This time, nothing...
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If you are going to strike someone, in war. You don't let them know the exact time and date ahead of time.

But, you do warn them.

NK is doing exactly what US did before Iraq. Letting everyone know it is coming...but "shock and awe" when it does.

Hopefully I am completely wrong.
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If the old lady is calling the shots, as I think she is, (Kim Jong Umm being in a secondary position - sort of like our Vice President) then the odds are VERY HIGH that there will be a War on the Peninsula.

If I am correct then look for the NK's to START mobilizing their reserves over the weekend, but probably not before, so that they can be ready to move by the middle of next week.

Currently NK is merely doing the necessary "spade work" but has not yet taken the last couple of steps it NEEDS to take before an actual War can begin.
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U.S JOINT CHIEF OF STAFF DEMPSEY SAYS N. KOREA ABILITY TO PUT NUKE ON MISSILE IS CLASSIFIED BUT HAVE TO ASSUME THE WORST CASE
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Interesting. That almost comes across as "I can't tell you, but yes".
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U.S JOINT CHIEF OF STAFF DEMPSEY SAYS N. KOREA ABILITY TO PUT NUKE ON MISSILE IS CLASSIFIED BUT HAVE TO ASSUME THE WORST CASE
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Interesting. That almost comes across as "I can't tell you, but yes".
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Zhang Lianghui, a prominent and respected North Korea analyst in China, said today chance of war on Korean Peninsula is 70-80%.


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Respected North Korea Analyst, 'War on Peninsula is 70-80%'.. DEMPSEY: NK Putting Nuke On Missile Classified, Must Assume Worst Case!!!
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