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Obama Overrides Congress to Buy $690 Million Worth of Russian Choppers for Afghan Air Force

 
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Something stinks in Denmark.Apparently America has too many jobs so Obama will be spending taxpayer money to support Russia’s defense industry on behalf of Afghanistan. And he’s doing so over the bipartisan objections of Congress from both the right and left and a ban on buying them written into the NDAA.
The US Department of Defense said Thursday it plans to sidestep a Congressional ban to purchase 30 helicopters from Russian state-owned defense firm Rosoboronexport, despite objections from US lawmakerswho allege that the firm has equipped the Syrian government to commit brutal crimes against civilians.
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Re: Obama Overrides Congress to Buy $690 Million Worth of Russian Choppers for Afghan Air Force
Great, give more money to a elitist corrupt state.


WE need to support the Russian People,


NOT the fucking oligarchs....



There's a huge power vacuum still and everyone is trying to stick their hands in the cookie jar.


Giving their corrupt government and defense industry is only further hurting the good people of Russia...
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if all america has are hammers that cost $100 and DoD needs hammers and can get them from russia for $4, as commander in chief he has the authority to do what is necessary for the nations defense
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obama is not a king dammit, he cannot just go around doing whatever the hell he wants. seriously, thank you to all the fucking retards out there that voted for him. why do i even bother, it's like talking to a wall made of morons that are hearing impaired.
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WE need to support the Russian People,


NOT the fucking oligarchs....



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36542417


We dont need to support either WTF is wrong with you?
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I thought the UN arms treaty would prevent such purchases.
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Re: Obama Overrides Congress to Buy $690 Million Worth of Russian Choppers for Afghan Air Force
didnt we just ground a third of our airforce yesterday?

WTF Obanana.
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this brain damaged lunatic needs to taken out of office right now! how hard is it for people to see he is doing whatever the hell he wants because he has nothing left to loose?
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well that link seems legit
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Re: Obama Overrides Congress to Buy $690 Million Worth of Russian Choppers for Afghan Air Force
Rosoboronexport a.k.a. Putin's string puller.
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obama is not a king dammit, he cannot just go around doing whatever the hell he wants. seriously, thank you to all the fucking retards out there that voted for him. why do i even bother, it's like talking to a wall made of morons that are hearing impaired.
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^^^^THIS^^^^ in freaking spades!!!
Bypass Congressional ban,my ass.
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Re: Obama Overrides Congress to Buy $690 Million Worth of Russian Choppers for Afghan Air Force
Great, give more money to a elitist corrupt state.


WE need to support the Russian People,


NOT the fucking oligarchs....



There's a huge power vacuum still and everyone is trying to stick their hands in the cookie jar.


Giving their corrupt government and defense industry is only further hurting the good people of Russia...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36542417


I saw this the other day and my first thought was they are for over here.bump
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didn't this imposter hand out $250MM to the muslim brotherhood as well? this would rack up just shy of $1 billion dollars handed out to foreign countries(leaders and elites) plus foreign militaries
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Besides the ones they bought back in '10?

"The U.S. government is snapping up Russian-made helicopters to form the core of Afghanistan's fledgling air force, a strategy that is drawing flak from members of Congress who want to force the Afghans to fly American choppers instead. "

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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well that link seems legit
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[link to forums.militarytimes.com]
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"When Congress passed the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act, it had an interesting provision. Congress included, as a part of that law a prohibition on the United States buying helicopters from Rosoboronexport, the Russian manufacturer of the Mi-17 helicopter.

Unfortunately as always happens, when such laws are passed, Congress always gives the Regime an escape hatch. The law stated that Obama could buy from Rosoboronexport if the Secretary of Defense certified it was in the interest of National Security.

And of course, the Secretary of Defense, Chuck Hagel, a man committed to destroying the US military immediately signed off on that certification.
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t's not easy to find an issue that can leave both Connecticut Democrat Rep. Rosa DeLauro and Texas Republican Sen. John Cornyn equally outraged.

But the Pentagon paying $17 million apiece for a fleet of Russian helicopters certainly does the trick.

The Defense Department wants to spend taxpayers' money to buy 30 more Russian-made Mi-17 helicopters to give to the Afghan army, through what is effectively a no-bid contract that blocks competing bids from such American helicopter manufacturers as Sikorsky, Bell and Boeing.
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Maybe this is one of the things he now has "more flexibility" for, as he promised Putin through Medvedev.
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Re: Obama Overrides Congress to Buy $690 Million Worth of Russian Choppers for Afghan Air Force
quid pro quo you want Russia to play nice while you do the shit your bosses want doin you gotta pay, look at the deals and territories the US has given Russia in the last 3 years, you're clearly paying them off
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Re: Obama Overrides Congress to Buy $690 Million Worth of Russian Choppers for Afghan Air Force
fuck buying choppers for afghans, buy me a fucking house
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Payback time
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Re: Obama Overrides Congress to Buy $690 Million Worth of Russian Choppers for Afghan Air Force
if all america has are hammers that cost $100 and DoD needs hammers and can get them from russia for $4, as commander in chief he has the authority to do what is necessary for the nations defense
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That's dangerous logical talk. agent
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fuck buying choppers for afghans, buy me a fucking house
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Get to work and buy your own damn house.
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I'm going to sleep so much better now that he has armed the otherside, meanwhile back at home...
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Re: Obama Overrides Congress to Buy $690 Million Worth of Russian Choppers for Afghan Air Force
if all america has are hammers that cost $100 and DoD needs hammers and can get them from russia for $4, as commander in chief he has the authority to do what is necessary for the nations defense
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That's dangerous logical talk. agent
 Quoting: Reckless Driver


According to wikipedia our own military only pays about $21 million for a blackhawk. It seems silly to cut our own precious military industrial complex out of hundreds of millions of dollars over a measley $4 million savings per aircraft. Money that would actually continue to circulated in our country and keep Americans working.

Better yet, get smart and give them some well used birds and spend the money buying new ones for our own troops.
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But what about the Sequester?????

A third of our Air Force is grounded because of the sequester, yet we have money to make sure the Afghans are in the air compliments of the Russians???? Here's a prediction - the Afghans hate to perform maintenance, and that fleet will be scrap within 12 months.
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Re: Obama Overrides Congress to Buy $690 Million Worth of Russian Choppers for Afghan Air Force
if all america has are hammers that cost $100 and DoD needs hammers and can get them from russia for $4, as commander in chief he has the authority to do what is necessary for the nations defense
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That's dangerous logical talk. agent
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Yup! But bean counters' mentality cannot see much further than that...
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The current administration has a list of top priorities.

Unfortunately, funding our military did not make that list.
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Re: Obama Overrides Congress to Buy $690 Million Worth of Russian Choppers for Afghan Air Force
Something stinks in Denmark.Apparently America has too many jobs so Obama will be spending taxpayer money to support Russia’s defense industry on behalf of Afghanistan. And he’s doing so over the bipartisan objections of Congress from both the right and left and a ban on buying them written into the NDAA.
The US Department of Defense said Thursday it plans to sidestep a Congressional ban to purchase 30 helicopters from Russian state-owned defense firm Rosoboronexport, despite objections from US lawmakerswho allege that the firm has equipped the Syrian government to commit brutal crimes against civilians.
[link to nesaranews.blogspot.com]
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Besides the ones they bought back in '10?

"The U.S. government is snapping up Russian-made helicopters to form the core of Afghanistan's fledgling air force, a strategy that is drawing flak from members of Congress who want to force the Afghans to fly American choppers instead. "

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: THX 1138


"When Congress passed the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act, it had an interesting provision. Congress included, as a part of that law a prohibition on the United States buying helicopters from Rosoboronexport, the Russian manufacturer of the Mi-17 helicopter.

Unfortunately as always happens, when such laws are passed, Congress always gives the Regime an escape hatch. The law stated that Obama could buy from Rosoboronexport if the Secretary of Defense certified it was in the interest of National Security.

And of course, the Secretary of Defense, Chuck Hagel, a man committed to destroying the US military immediately signed off on that certification.
"

[link to www.teapartynation.com]
 Quoting: THX 1138


Sequester? What Sequester, I don't know what your talking about *blows a billion on foreign choppers*...

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Obama sends thousands of American jobs to Russia who may return the favor by selling us built to fail helicopters.

And congress may have to return millions of dollars in campaign contributions because they failed to deliver to the right corporations.
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Getting real tired of our tax money helping other countries, real fuc*ing tired of it.





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