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Obama's 94 cents per pack cigarette tax hike

 
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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Its more crap but best to quit anyhow guys.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6409759


what gives you the friggin right
to tell me I should quit anything ??

it's MY choice - not the gov !!

fixing the price so people cannot afford
a product is called economic
extortion.

this administration is trying to
play GOD with people's lives
and it won't affect you until
it is a product YOU use everyday
that gets effected.
Useless Cookie Eater

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04/10/2013 05:37 PM

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Its more crap but best to quit anyhow guys.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6409759


what gives you the friggin right
to tell me I should quit anything ??

it's MY choice - not the gov !!

fixing the price so people cannot afford
a product is called economic
extortion.

this administration is trying to
play GOD with people's lives
and it won't affect you until
it is a product YOU use everyday
that gets effected.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


Wait until ObamaCare hits.
You are just seeing the tip of the iceberg.
Anonymous Coward
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04/10/2013 05:39 PM
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Re: Obama's 94 cents per pack cigarette tax hike
Big fricken deal.

We pay prov tax of 25 cents per cig that's $50.00/carton of 200.
Then there is federal tax on top.

A carton of 200 runs you between $90.00 and $115.00 or $11. to $14 /pack of 25.

I quit 39 days ago and have saved $400. so far.

You have a long way to go to catch up with the tax on our smokes.

On the plus side, I feel a 1000 times better since I quit the evil white cancer sticks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


some people don't want to quit.
I am one.

I want my cigs left alone.

fvck regulation by enforcement
of taxes on a product.

it's times like these that I miss
GH Bush

"Read my lips: NO NEW TAXES!!"

that includes cigs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


HA HA to fucking bad, I hate cig smokers, you smell, you make my air smell, you smell up my local bar, your teeth are yellow and you cost us millions in healthcare cost, cigs should either be outlawed or taxed $5 a pack..

Eat Shit Cig Smokers..

bartmoon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37522476


Goofy Thum
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HA HA to fucking bad, I hate cig smokers, you smell, you make my air smell, you smell up my local bar, your teeth are yellow and you cost us millions in healthcare cost, cigs should either be outlawed or taxed $5 a pack..

Eat Shit Cig Smokers..

bartmoon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37522476


fvck off dirtbag

you're missing the point

what if I said I hate people
who drink coffee ???

and I hope tax on coffee
goes up to $3 a can so you
couldn't afford to drink it.

would you get pissed if it was
a product you used everyday ??
of course

you are turning this into a debate
about smoking

when it is NOT

it is a debate about gov regulation
of a consumer product.

so STFU !!
Useless Cookie Eater

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04/10/2013 05:41 PM

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Re: Obama's 94 cents per pack cigarette tax hike
Big fricken deal.

We pay prov tax of 25 cents per cig that's $50.00/carton of 200.
Then there is federal tax on top.

A carton of 200 runs you between $90.00 and $115.00 or $11. to $14 /pack of 25.

I quit 39 days ago and have saved $400. so far.

You have a long way to go to catch up with the tax on our smokes.

On the plus side, I feel a 1000 times better since I quit the evil white cancer sticks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


some people don't want to quit.
I am one.

I want my cigs left alone.

fvck regulation by enforcement
of taxes on a product.

it's times like these that I miss
GH Bush

"Read my lips: NO NEW TAXES!!"

that includes cigs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


HA HA to fucking bad, I hate cig smokers, you smell, you make my air smell, you smell up my local bar, your teeth are yellow and you cost us millions in healthcare cost, cigs should either be outlawed or taxed $5 a pack..

Eat Shit Cig Smokers..

bartmoon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37522476


Goofy Thum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37522476


Nazi Facists.
Impressive. grnrolleyes
Anonymous Coward
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04/10/2013 05:43 PM
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I also think it should be a law that when you want to buy a pack or carton of cigs you should turn in that same amount of left over cig filters, or pay $5 more for that pack of cigs..

Why do cig smokers think their cig filters are not trash, you filthy aholes throw them every where, you smell, your teeth are yellow, you smell up my air, you filthy bums..

s226
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I also think it should be a law that when you want to buy a pack or carton of cigs you should turn in that same amount of left over cig filters, or pay $5 more for that pack of cigs..

Why do cig smokers think their cig filters are not trash, you filthy aholes throw them every where, you smell, your teeth are yellow, you smell up my air, you filthy bums..

s226
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37522476


it is my right to smoke
unabated by a tyrannical
regime.

so fvck off gay tard
Anonymous Coward
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04/10/2013 05:47 PM
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Re: Obama's 94 cents per pack cigarette tax hike
Its more crap but best to quit anyhow guys.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6409759


what gives you the friggin right
to tell me I should quit anything ??

it's MY choice - not the gov !!

fixing the price so people cannot afford
a product is called economic
extortion.

this administration is trying to
play GOD with people's lives
and it won't affect you until
it is a product YOU use everyday
that gets effected.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


Wait until ObamaCare hits.
You are just seeing the tip of the iceberg.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater



I agree. Main question now being asked when you go to a doc office is DO YOU SMOKE? This info is going into a national database, along with other things such as weight, BP, pulse, etc...
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04/10/2013 05:48 PM
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Re: Obama's 94 cents per pack cigarette tax hike
HA HA to fucking bad, I hate cig smokers, you smell, you make my air smell, you smell up my local bar, your teeth are yellow and you cost us millions in healthcare cost, cigs should either be outlawed or taxed $5 a pack..

Eat Shit Cig Smokers..

bartmoon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37522476


fvck off dirtbag

you're missing the point

what if I said I hate people
who drink coffee ???

and I hope tax on coffee
goes up to $3 a can so you
couldn't afford to drink it.

would you get pissed if it was
a product you used everyday ??
of course

you are turning this into a debate
about smoking

when it is NOT

it is a debate about gov regulation
of a consumer product.

so STFU !!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


Yes, after all, caffeine is a DRUG...
Anonymous Coward
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Re: Obama's 94 cents per pack cigarette tax hike
HA HA to fucking bad, I hate cig smokers, you smell, you make my air smell, you smell up my local bar, your teeth are yellow and you cost us millions in healthcare cost, cigs should either be outlawed or taxed $5 a pack..

Eat Shit Cig Smokers..

bartmoon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37522476


fvck off dirtbag

you're missing the point

what if I said I hate people
who drink coffee ???

and I hope tax on coffee
goes up to $3 a can so you
couldn't afford to drink it.

would you get pissed if it was
a product you used everyday ??
of course

you are turning this into a debate
about smoking

when it is NOT

it is a debate about gov regulation
of a consumer product.

so STFU !!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


It is a debate about smoking, 1st off I don't drink coffee, you smokers are smelly, you poison people with your smoke, you make the walls and ceiling dirty with cig smoke, your teeth are piss yellow, you throw your filters on the ground that can last up to 5 years, you start forest fires, house fires, your fires kill people, you plug up my hospitals with your cancer, your all a bunch of stinky ass holes..

butt
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04/10/2013 05:49 PM
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Re: Obama's 94 cents per pack cigarette tax hike
I also think it should be a law that when you want to buy a pack or carton of cigs you should turn in that same amount of left over cig filters, or pay $5 more for that pack of cigs..

Why do cig smokers think their cig filters are not trash, you filthy aholes throw them every where, you smell, your teeth are yellow, you smell up my air, you filthy bums..

s226
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37522476


Dude, where in the hell do you hang out to give such a grapgic appearance of smoker, the fucking hills have eyes? Get a life... and get with reality...
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04/10/2013 05:50 PM
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Re: Obama's 94 cents per pack cigarette tax hike
HA HA to fucking bad, I hate cig smokers, you smell, you make my air smell, you smell up my local bar, your teeth are yellow and you cost us millions in healthcare cost, cigs should either be outlawed or taxed $5 a pack..

Eat Shit Cig Smokers..

bartmoon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37522476


fvck off dirtbag

you're missing the point

what if I said I hate people
who drink coffee ???

and I hope tax on coffee
goes up to $3 a can so you
couldn't afford to drink it.

would you get pissed if it was
a product you used everyday ??
of course

you are turning this into a debate
about smoking

when it is NOT

it is a debate about gov regulation
of a consumer product.

so STFU !!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


It is a debate about smoking, 1st off I don't drink coffee, you smokers are smelly, you poison people with your smoke, you make the walls and ceiling dirty with cig smoke, your teeth are piss yellow, you throw your filters on the ground that can last up to 5 years, you start forest fires, house fires, your fires kill people, you plug up my hospitals with your cancer, your all a bunch of stinky ass holes..

butt
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37522476





Wrong asshat!!

I don't smoke around others.
I smoke outside.
My teeth are as white as the driven snow.
...


No, most of the hospitals are plugged up with illegals and those trying to game the system. FAIL, and TARD alert RED
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04/10/2013 05:51 PM
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Yes, after all, caffeine is a DRUG...
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you're still missing the point.

whatever item you purchase,
what if the gov decided to tax
it at 66% so you could not afford
to buy it ??? choose any item
you use, now apply the same principle
to it.

it's extortion
pinkshirtguy

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04/10/2013 05:51 PM
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As a cigarette smoker i dont have sympathy. If ur poor u shouldnt be smoking anyways u cant fucking afford it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33059191


you are missing the point.

What if Obama put a 2 dollar tax
on every can of coffee you buy ??
just because he says it will stop
arthritis ??

it don't affect you until it's
a product you use.

then you stand up, hypocrite.

or what if Obama put a 1 dollar tax
on every 2 liter soda because it causes
diabetes ???

It's the same exact thing !!!

too damn much intervention in our lives.

I don't want to be regulated.
I want to be liberated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


no, YOU'RE missing the point. Its taxed more because they know we will still buy them.

liberate yourself and roll your own cigs.
poyl
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04/10/2013 05:54 PM
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Yes, after all, caffeine is a DRUG...
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you're still missing the point.

whatever item you purchase,
what if the gov decided to tax
it at 66% so you could not afford
to buy it ??? choose any item
you use, now apply the same principle
to it.

it's extortion
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


No I get the point. Caffeine is just like nicotine. In either case the govt should not arbitrarily decide what is, and what should not be taxed over and above the norm, or at all...
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04/10/2013 05:54 PM
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Re: Obama's 94 cents per pack cigarette tax hike
It is a debate about smoking,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37522476


WRONG asshat !!!

it's only a debate about smoking
until the tax is garnished on an
item that YOU use everyday.
Then it is a debate about rights
and freedom to choose.
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As a cigarette smoker i dont have sympathy. If ur poor u shouldnt be smoking anyways u cant fucking afford it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33059191


you are missing the point.

What if Obama put a 2 dollar tax
on every can of coffee you buy ??
just because he says it will stop
arthritis ??

it don't affect you until it's
a product you use.

then you stand up, hypocrite.

or what if Obama put a 1 dollar tax
on every 2 liter soda because it causes
diabetes ???

It's the same exact thing !!!

too damn much intervention in our lives.

I don't want to be regulated.
I want to be liberated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


no, YOU'RE missing the point. Its taxed more because they know we will still buy them.

liberate yourself and roll your own cigs.
 Quoting: pinkshirtguy



How much for the roller machine? How hard is it? Are the papers those crappy anti fire papers?
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Re: Obama's 94 cents per pack cigarette tax hike
no, YOU'RE missing the point. Its taxed more because they know we will still buy them.

liberate yourself and roll your own cigs.
 Quoting: pinkshirtguy


Liberate yourself and everyone around you and the air and stop smoking..

Obama please increase the cig tax to $5 a pack..

Just to let you cig smokers know there is millions of people like me wanting the tax higher or cigs outlawed..

YOU WILL LOSE..

WE ARE WINNING..

5a
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04/10/2013 05:58 PM
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Liken this to gas prices....


what is oil per barrel? (I really don't know atm) compare it to the price of gas... Then look at the historical correlation of oil per barrel and gas prices. On top of that, diesel is a by product of gasoline production and its more expensive than gas!

they know that regardless the tax increases, these are things we will still buy
poyl
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Re: Obama's 94 cents per pack cigarette tax hike
no, YOU'RE missing the point. Its taxed more because they know we will still buy them.

liberate yourself and roll your own cigs.
 Quoting: pinkshirtguy


Liberate yourself and everyone around you and the air and stop smoking..

Obama please increase the cig tax to $5 a pack..

Just to let you cig smokers know there is millions of people like me wanting the tax higher or cigs outlawed..

YOU WILL LOSE..

WE ARE WINNING..

5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37522476


ok, so what. You are offended by my smoking. I don't really care.

tell me about your life so incan tell you the things you do that millions of people want banned and outlawed.... Fatty.
poyl
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Re: Obama's 94 cents per pack cigarette tax hike
no, YOU'RE missing the point. Its taxed more because they know we will still buy them.

liberate yourself and roll your own cigs.
 Quoting: pinkshirtguy


no, you missed it also.

they are narrowing down our choices.
PROCESS OF ELIMINATION.

take out the rights to a rolled
cig then everybody huddles into
the group of rolling your own.

THEN ... BAM !!!!

a later tax comes on loose tobacco,
filters and papers.

then you have no where else to go
to get a friggin cigarette.

they win !!!

Obama said it himself,
he's trying to force you
to stop smoking by price
regulation and taxes.

this is only a first step
in that process.

it's much easier when you tackle
a big problem by breaking it into
smaller pieces.

taxing rolled cigs is that small
piece that eventually leads to
the whole.
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04/10/2013 06:01 PM
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Re: Obama's 94 cents per pack cigarette tax hike
It is a debate about smoking,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37522476


WRONG asshat !!!

it's only a debate about smoking
until the tax is garnished on an
item that YOU use everyday.
Then it is a debate about rights
and freedom to choose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


WRONG AGAIN, IT IS ABOUT CIG SMOKING, US NON SMOKERS WANTED THIS TAX AND EVEN MORE TAX, I WANT THE LAW THE SAME EVERYWHERE NO SMOKING PERIOD.. ANYWHERE INSIDE OR OUT..

WE ARE WINNING

I WILL NEVER STOP FIGHTING

THE NEW TAX SHOWS WE ARE WINNING..

5a
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04/10/2013 06:02 PM
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no, YOU'RE missing the point. Its taxed more because they know we will still buy them.

liberate yourself and roll your own cigs.
 Quoting: pinkshirtguy


Liberate yourself and everyone around you and the air and stop smoking..

Obama please increase the cig tax to $5 a pack..

Just to let you cig smokers know there is millions of people like me wanting the tax higher or cigs outlawed..

YOU WILL LOSE..

WE ARE WINNING..

5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37522476


idiot

you are losing too

it is your right to choices
that they are taking away.
you really are a brainwashed
retard.
pinkshirtguy

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As a cigarette smoker i dont have sympathy. If ur poor u shouldnt be smoking anyways u cant fucking afford it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33059191


you are missing the point.

What if Obama put a 2 dollar tax
on every can of coffee you buy ??
just because he says it will stop
arthritis ??

it don't affect you until it's
a product you use.

then you stand up, hypocrite.

or what if Obama put a 1 dollar tax
on every 2 liter soda because it causes
diabetes ???

It's the same exact thing !!!

too damn much intervention in our lives.

I don't want to be regulated.
I want to be liberated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


no, YOU'RE missing the point. Its taxed more because they know we will still buy them.

liberate yourself and roll your own cigs.
 Quoting: pinkshirtguy



How much for the roller machine? How hard is it? Are the papers those crappy anti fire papers?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003364


I haven't bought unrolled in a minute, but I would bet you $20 that a $20 investment in a roller, filters and papers get you at least 80 cigs.
poyl
Judethz
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on top of the existing tax hike of 2009.

WTF is this ???

if you buy cigs by the carton, then
you can start adding another $10
per carton to the sales price.

cigarette tax hikes hurt the poor
and middle class.

[link to money.cnn.com]

hey bro, why don't you stay out of our wallets
and go back to playing golf where you are
much more useful.
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stoner It's not so hard I've done it. Thread: Starting and Growing Tobacco from Seeds. New Hope Seed Company: Bringing back old tobacco varities from days gone by. No hybrids... No GMO's
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A lot of people here are in the same boat..
Solution... go to the Indian Reserve and get cheap smokes.


Loads of people here do it.
I don't smoke which is great but for other's it's a matter of staying sane...
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next they will tax FOOD,ice cream,fast food,junk food,soda pop<nyc started this>, all food with sugar,etc. the health care bill gives the gov the "right" to tax anything. ppl think smoking is bad. i saw a tv show about myths,smoking was 1 of them. the nation having less trees now than b4 johnny appleseed is also. we had more meadows thruought our forrests. why u ppl believe everything uncle-gov-know-it-all-tax-u-all says???
just wait u all think us smokers r bad ppl. wait n see what they do to us they will do too u all. tax tax tax. lets see mcdonalds haapy meal taxed yep cali, soda pop taxed yep ny state, regulate how much u can eat or drink yep ny city.
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Re: Obama's 94 cents per pack cigarette tax hike
It is a debate about smoking,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37522476


WRONG asshat !!!

it's only a debate about smoking
until the tax is garnished on an
item that YOU use everyday.
Then it is a debate about rights
and freedom to choose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


WRONG AGAIN, IT IS ABOUT CIG SMOKING, US NON SMOKERS WANTED THIS TAX AND EVEN MORE TAX, I WANT THE LAW THE SAME EVERYWHERE NO SMOKING PERIOD.. ANYWHERE INSIDE OR OUT..

WE ARE WINNING

I WILL NEVER STOP FIGHTING

THE NEW TAX SHOWS WE ARE WINNING..

5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37522476





IQ of 50... like you even had a say in the new tax? HAHAHAHAHA - asshat... it was preplanned through the med industry, insurance, and small group with an agenda. Has nothing to do with health, they don't care, its about taking away ones freedom, and imposing their will on those that disagree... same things Hitler did... which by the way was the first campaign against smoking. Next will be guns, but you still won't care because you have your head up your ass, until they finally come for you, and no one is left to say anything in your behalf...
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Re: Obama's 94 cents per pack cigarette tax hike
no, YOU'RE missing the point. Its taxed more because they know we will still buy them.

liberate yourself and roll your own cigs.
 Quoting: pinkshirtguy


no, you missed it also.

they are narrowing down our choices.
PROCESS OF ELIMINATION.

take out the rights to a rolled
cig then everybody huddles into
the group of rolling your own.

THEN ... BAM !!!!

a later tax comes on loose tobacco,
filters and papers.

then you have no where else to go
to get a friggin cigarette.

they win !!!

Obama said it himself,
he's trying to force you
to stop smoking by price
regulation and taxes.

this is only a first step
in that process.

it's much easier when you tackle
a big problem by breaking it into
smaller pieces.

taxing rolled cigs is that small
piece that eventually leads to
the whole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


you're right about that. I think.hes already had the roll your own stores shut down a couple years ago.

but, they will tax it and we will still continue to buy because we are addicted and some of us don't have the willpower to quit.

they're still ~ $5/pack in MS
poyl
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Solution... go to the Indian Reserve and get cheap smokes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19131216


this has already been discussed

it is not feasible nor affordable to
drive 300-400 miles to buy a carton of
cigs.

and they don't have a distribution chain
to sell them on every street corner.

News