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Obama's 94 cents per pack cigarette tax hike

 
Carpet Gnome
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04/10/2013 06:08 PM

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As a cigarette smoker i dont have sympathy. If ur poor u shouldnt be smoking anyways u cant fucking afford it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33059191


you are missing the point.

What if Obama put a 2 dollar tax
on every can of coffee you buy ??
just because he says it will stop
arthritis ??

it don't affect you until it's
a product you use.

then you stand up, hypocrite.

or what if Obama put a 1 dollar tax
on every 2 liter soda because it causes
diabetes ???

It's the same exact thing !!!

too damn much intervention in our lives.

I don't want to be regulated.
I want to be liberated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


I don't smoke but totally agree that the Government needs to keep there dick-beaters out of our lives.
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04/10/2013 06:09 PM
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no, YOU'RE missing the point. Its taxed more because they know we will still buy them.

liberate yourself and roll your own cigs.
 Quoting: pinkshirtguy


no, you missed it also.

they are narrowing down our choices.
PROCESS OF ELIMINATION.

take out the rights to a rolled
cig then everybody huddles into
the group of rolling your own.

THEN ... BAM !!!!

a later tax comes on loose tobacco,
filters and papers.

then you have no where else to go
to get a friggin cigarette.

they win !!!

Obama said it himself,
he's trying to force you
to stop smoking by price
regulation and taxes.

this is only a first step
in that process.

it's much easier when you tackle
a big problem by breaking it into
smaller pieces.

taxing rolled cigs is that small
piece that eventually leads to
the whole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


you're right about that. I think.hes already had the roll your own stores shut down a couple years ago.

but, they will tax it and we will still continue to buy because we are addicted and some of us don't have the willpower to quit.

they're still ~ $5/pack in MS
 Quoting: pinkshirtguy


I quit for 9 months. Every day had that little voice in the back of my head and craving for a smoke. Wasn't worth the insanity or being grumpy...
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04/10/2013 06:11 PM
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IQ of 50... like you even had a say in the new tax? HAHAHAHAHA - asshat... it was preplanned through the med industry, insurance, and small group with an agenda. Has nothing to do with health, they don't care, its about taking away ones freedom, and imposing their will on those that disagree... same things Hitler did... which by the way was the first campaign against smoking. Next will be guns, but you still won't care because you have your head up your ass, until they finally come for you, and no one is left to say anything in your behalf...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003364


AND AGAIN YOUR WRONG, I SIGNED AND SUPPORTED EVERY LOCAL PETION ABOUT SMOKING, VOTED FOR THOSE THAT WANTED TO BAN SMOKING INSIDE BARS, REASURANTS, HOTELS, ETC, ETC, VOTED FOR THOSE THAT WANTED HIGHER TAX ON CIGS, HELL I WILL SUPPORT YOU SMELLY AHOLES TO GO TO JAIL WHEN WE OUTLAW CIGS..

banana2
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next they will tax FOOD,ice cream,fast food,junk food,soda pop<nyc started this>, all food with sugar,etc. the health care bill gives the gov the "right" to tax anything. ppl think smoking is bad. i saw a tv show about myths,smoking was 1 of them. the nation having less trees now than b4 johnny appleseed is also. we had more meadows thruought our forrests. why u ppl believe everything uncle-gov-know-it-all-tax-u-all says???
just wait u all think us smokers r bad ppl. wait n see what they do to us they will do too u all. tax tax tax. lets see mcdonalds haapy meal taxed yep cali, soda pop taxed yep ny state, regulate how much u can eat or drink yep ny city.
 Quoting: jazz 22000823


damn

FINALLY somebody gets it !!!

thank you

it's about regulation of products,
not a debate about smoking.

but of course Obama would like
people to see it as a debate on smoking
because it helps him get to his goal.
He taxes the most controversial product
on the market in his divide and conquer
tax strategy.
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I don't think they will tax them til they are beyond 'reasonable' prices.

just every couple years, they'll add a bit more under the guise of making you stop. But we should be smarter than to assume they truly want to put big tobacco out of business.
poyl
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IQ of 50... like you even had a say in the new tax? HAHAHAHAHA - asshat... it was preplanned through the med industry, insurance, and small group with an agenda. Has nothing to do with health, they don't care, its about taking away ones freedom, and imposing their will on those that disagree... same things Hitler did... which by the way was the first campaign against smoking. Next will be guns, but you still won't care because you have your head up your ass, until they finally come for you, and no one is left to say anything in your behalf...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003364


AND AGAIN YOUR WRONG, I SIGNED AND SUPPORTED EVERY LOCAL PETION ABOUT SMOKING, VOTED FOR THOSE THAT WANTED TO BAN SMOKING INSIDE BARS, REASURANTS, HOTELS, ETC, ETC, VOTED FOR THOSE THAT WANTED HIGHER TAX ON CIGS, HELL I WILL SUPPORT YOU SMELLY AHOLES TO GO TO JAIL WHEN WE OUTLAW CIGS..

banana2
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One word for you clown - COMMUNIST
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04/10/2013 06:13 PM
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Big fricken deal.

We pay prov tax of 25 cents per cig that's $50.00/carton of 200.
Then there is federal tax on top.

A carton of 200 runs you between $90.00 and $115.00 or $11. to $14 /pack of 25.

I quit 39 days ago and have saved $400. so far.

You have a long way to go to catch up with the tax on our smokes.

On the plus side, I feel a 1000 times better since I quit the evil white cancer sticks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


some people don't want to quit.
I am one.

I want my cigs left alone.

fvck regulation by enforcement
of taxes on a product.

it's times like these that I miss
GH Bush

"Read my lips: NO NEW TAXES!!"

that includes cigs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


HA HA to fucking bad, I hate cig smokers, you smell, you make my air smell, you smell up my local bar, your teeth are yellow and you cost us millions in healthcare cost, cigs should either be outlawed or taxed $5 a pack..

Eat Shit Cig Smokers..

bartmoon
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Goofy Thum
chuckle
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I don't smoke but totally agree that the Government needs to keep there dick-beaters out of our lives.
 Quoting: Carpet Gnome


thank you
for standing up for our rights
to consume and have choices.
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04/10/2013 06:13 PM
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indian reservation prices r now what pa used to b. they have come up alot ,thx ny state laws. price has tripled in under bout 7yrs. and that is buying the indian brand cigs. forget marlboro,etc u wont find em at the reservation. if u do deal with the indians do so with CASH. do not use checks /credit cards including mail-orders. uncle finds ppl n makes up his own fines based on what he thinks u saved over YEARS. i have heard of extreme cases.
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04/10/2013 06:15 PM

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next they will tax FOOD,ice cream,fast food,junk food,soda pop<nyc started this>, all food with sugar,etc. the health care bill gives the gov the "right" to tax anything. ppl think smoking is bad. i saw a tv show about myths,smoking was 1 of them. the nation having less trees now than b4 johnny appleseed is also. we had more meadows thruought our forrests. why u ppl believe everything uncle-gov-know-it-all-tax-u-all says???
just wait u all think us smokers r bad ppl. wait n see what they do to us they will do too u all. tax tax tax. lets see mcdonalds haapy meal taxed yep cali, soda pop taxed yep ny state, regulate how much u can eat or drink yep ny city.
 Quoting: jazz 22000823


damn

FINALLY somebody gets it !!!

thank you

it's about regulation of products,
not a debate about smoking.

but of course Obama would like
people to see it as a debate on smoking
because it helps him get to his goal.
He taxes the most controversial product
on the market in his divide and conquer
tax strategy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


I've been with you the whole time. Like any necessity (for most smokers it sadly is) its going to get taxed as much as possible.
poyl
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04/10/2013 06:17 PM

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Re: Obama's 94 cents per pack cigarette tax hike
Big fricken deal.

We pay prov tax of 25 cents per cig that's $50.00/carton of 200.
Then there is federal tax on top.

A carton of 200 runs you between $90.00 and $115.00 or $11. to $14 /pack of 25.

I quit 39 days ago and have saved $400. so far.

You have a long way to go to catch up with the tax on our smokes.

On the plus side, I feel a 1000 times better since I quit the evil white cancer sticks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


some people don't want to quit.
I am one.

I want my cigs left alone.

fvck regulation by enforcement
of taxes on a product.

it's times like these that I miss
GH Bush

"Read my lips: NO NEW TAXES!!"

that includes cigs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


HA HA to fucking bad, I hate cig smokers, you smell, you make my air smell, you smell up my local bar, your teeth are yellow and you cost us millions in healthcare cost, cigs should either be outlawed or taxed $5 a pack..

Eat Shit Cig Smokers..

bartmoon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37522476


Goofy Thum
chuckle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37522476


you sound like a total homo who shouldn't beer at a bar in the first place. You'd rather sit and smell stale bud light and piss?
poyl
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04/10/2013 06:18 PM
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I don't think they will tax them til they are beyond 'reasonable' prices.
 Quoting: pinkshirtguy


you are wrong

the noose tightens one slip
at a time

2009 tax
2013 another tax
etc .....
pinkshirtguy

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04/10/2013 06:20 PM

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I don't think they will tax them til they are beyond 'reasonable' prices.
 Quoting: pinkshirtguy


you are wrong

the noose tightens one slip
at a time

2009 tax
2013 another tax
etc .....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


notice reasonable is quoted. They will never, ever put an end to the businesses involved in smoking.
poyl
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04/10/2013 06:22 PM
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I can't believe that no one from the uk has mentioned we pay £8.50 for a pack of 20.

Don't know what that is in $. Maybe someone can be arsed to work it out.

I smoke roll ups instead.
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04/10/2013 06:23 PM
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just to keep u up to date on how stupid taxes on cigs is.
i live in ny state. they taxed cigs n r going BROKE. took em ohhh over 5yrs for ONE congressman to finnally figure out taxen ppl n telling them to quit ment less $$$ to the state. NO DUHHHH OVER 5 YRS TO FIGURE THAT OUT!!! the nice state lotto which did well thru the recession was suppose to go to schools. WITHIN 2 yrs the schools project they will b broke also. we r the highest taxed in the nation,yes ny state is "proud" of that 1. however <<lol lol lol lol> we r the richest.
our minimum wage is higher than nation n going higher. this again was a great idea><< sarcasm>>> that failed. why do they raise min wage??? every $1 dollar u get they get a %. more dollars for u =more $$ for the gov. FAIL FAIL FAIL. cost of living increases big time. 1st time they did it cost me a dollar in pay. kinda like u take a cut. thats when i started buyin cigs elsewhere. each n every time the minimum wage went up cost went up n m,y wages were flat,hence it was like a cut in pay every time. ohhh n the poor ppl they aint no better off,actually worse,same amount of $$ on welfare n food stamps yet the costs have sky rocketted.
this great idea will b followed by more mark my words ANYONE WHO THINKS ITS JUST US SMOKERS IS WELL DOOMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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notice reasonable is quoted. They will never, ever put an end to the businesses involved in smoking.
 Quoting: pinkshirtguy


the gov tried this one before
during the 1920's with alcohol

does anybody remember prohibition laws ???

people started their own moonshining stils.

they tried to control it
and failed miserably.

they will do the same again with cigs

drive cigarette smoking underground.

then we can get cigs at 10 cents
a piece

that will piss them the hell off

fvck'em
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04/10/2013 06:25 PM
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i aint from ny by the way. am actually born n raised in hills of pa.plan to move as soon as i find a good place. been lookin. soon as i heal from this surgery.........
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just to keep u up to date on how stupid taxes on cigs is.
i live in ny state. they taxed cigs n r going BROKE. took em ohhh over 5yrs for ONE congressman to finnally figure out taxen ppl n telling them to quit ment less $$$ to the state. NO DUHHHH OVER 5 YRS TO FIGURE THAT OUT!!! the nice state lotto which did well thru the recession was suppose to go to schools. WITHIN 2 yrs the schools project they will b broke also. we r the highest taxed in the nation,yes ny state is "proud" of that 1. however <<lol lol lol lol> we r the richest.
our minimum wage is higher than nation n going higher. this again was a great idea><< sarcasm>>> that failed. why do they raise min wage??? every $1 dollar u get they get a %. more dollars for u =more $$ for the gov. FAIL FAIL FAIL. cost of living increases big time. 1st time they did it cost me a dollar in pay. kinda like u take a cut. thats when i started buyin cigs elsewhere. each n every time the minimum wage went up cost went up n m,y wages were flat,hence it was like a cut in pay every time. ohhh n the poor ppl they aint no better off,actually worse,same amount of $$ on welfare n food stamps yet the costs have sky rocketted.
this great idea will b followed by more mark my words ANYONE WHO THINKS ITS JUST US SMOKERS IS WELL DOOMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: JAZZ 22000823


clappa
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As a cigarette smoker i dont have sympathy. If ur poor u shouldnt be smoking anyways u cant fucking afford it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33059191


you are missing the point.

What if Obama put a 2 dollar tax
on every can of coffee you buy ??
just because he says it will stop
arthritis ??

it don't affect you until it's
a product you use.

then you stand up, hypocrite.

or what if Obama put a 1 dollar tax
on every 2 liter soda because it causes
diabetes ???

It's the same exact thing !!!

too damn much intervention in our lives.

I don't want to be regulated.
I want to be liberated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


Actually I wish they would tax the hell out of alcohol, tobacco and sugar. We might then have a healthcare system we could afford.
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04/10/2013 06:27 PM
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the reason they allowed beer n liquor back was why???
can we say it again???? TAX TAX TAX
this is not a democracy its a greed driven country. he who has the most money starves 1st later. lmfao
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notice reasonable is quoted. They will never, ever put an end to the businesses involved in smoking.
 Quoting: pinkshirtguy


the gov tried this one before
during the 1920's with alcohol

does anybody remember prohibition laws ???

people started their own moonshining stils.

they tried to control it
and failed miserably.

they will do the same again with cigs

drive cigarette smoking underground.

then we can get cigs at 10 cents
a piece

that will piss them the hell off

fvck'em
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


bingo. Growing your own. And that's what truly scares me- when you can't grow your own (legal) plants.
poyl
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As a cigarette smoker i dont have sympathy. If ur poor u shouldnt be smoking anyways u cant fucking afford it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33059191


you are missing the point.

What if Obama put a 2 dollar tax
on every can of coffee you buy ??
just because he says it will stop
arthritis ??

it don't affect you until it's
a product you use.

then you stand up, hypocrite.

or what if Obama put a 1 dollar tax
on every 2 liter soda because it causes
diabetes ???

It's the same exact thing !!!

too damn much intervention in our lives.

I don't want to be regulated.
I want to be liberated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24501290


Actually I wish they would tax the hell out of alcohol, tobacco and sugar. We might then have a healthcare system we could afford.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37806739



u forgot to mention the next partt. after they finish taxing us they is coming to get you!!!!!!!!!!!
we cant tax cigs or booze cause ppl quit drinkin n smokin lets tax health clubs n food,lets tax sleeping. better yet i got it we will tax healthy ppl cause ummm they live too long n cost services. dumb dumb dumb dumb
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Actually I wish they would tax the hell out of alcohol, tobacco and sugar. We might then have a healthcare system we could afford.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37806739


Obama just bailed out the sugar industry.

the key to a successful society is CHOICES
and free trade, not regulation.
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Anonymous Coward
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User ID: 37806739 GET THE FUCK OUTA MY COUNTRY N GO BACK TO MEXICO . BETTER YET SINCE U WANTA LIVE IN HELL PLZ GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO​OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO​OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR WTF WE GOTA HOOK BATTERY CABLES UP TO THESE PPL TO SHOCK EM INTO REALITY??????????????
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u forgot to mention the next partt. after they finish taxing us they is coming to get you!!!!!!!!!!!

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04/10/2013 06:43 PM
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thanks for the 5 stars

this should have a pin also
but I guess it's not doomy enough
to take away from North Korea.
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so what if:

Obama imposed a $100 tax on all
guns sold in America ???

Obama imposed a $1,000 tax on all
vehicles sold in America ???

Obama imposed a $5,000 bedroom tax
on every house in America ???

Obama imposed a $10,000 tax on every
house sold ???

you see the point ???

it is only good for you because
it doesn't affect you.

then when it does, you switch sides
on the argument. Then it's bad.

Obama has made this a debate about smoking
when it is not

it is a debate about TAXES !!!

see it for what it really is.
Tyranny and regulation through taxes.
PBJ11

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Tax the shit out of it.

Same for McDonalds.


Tired of my medical costs being so high because of obese people and people who smoke.

A CT scan in america is about 1000 dollars.

I can get the same quality CT scan in Europe for about 100.
 Quoting: Forgotten


You really think this will reduce ANY of your medical costs? I gotta bridge to sell ya.
PJ
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Tax the shit out of it.

Same for McDonalds.


Tired of my medical costs being so high because of obese people and people who smoke.

A CT scan in america is about 1000 dollars.

I can get the same quality CT scan in Europe for about 100.
 Quoting: Forgotten


You really think this will reduce ANY of your medical costs? I gotta bridge to sell ya.
 Quoting: PBJ11


PBJ

he drank the kool-aid bro.
there is no helping him.

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